David Davis: Brown's policy in Afghanistan is never going to work
The first question any Afghan asks a foreigner is, 'When are you leaving?'
On Wednesday Gordon Brown outlined his latest strategy for Afghanistan, by announcing a temporary increase in troops, additional funding to tackle poverty and promote education, and an increased emphasis on training the Afghan army and police force. The greatest weakness in this new approach is that it does not plausibly answer the first question that enters the mind of any Afghan when he sees foreigners in uniform.
That question is "When are you leaving?"
This should not be a surprise in a country that has received and expelled so many invaders in its long history. It is a question that arises partly from pride, but also from self preservation. The fate of any Afghan that miscalculates who will be around in ten years time is impoverishment, oppression, and possibly death, for himself, but also for his family.
Which leads to the second question, which is "What will you leave behind? Who will be in charge? Will he last? Will his writ run beyond the suburbs of Kabul?"
In other words, how are you going to guarantee the effective survival of the central state in a country where it more often than not fails, and where few people are really aware of its existence.
The answer given by the Prime Minister was, in truth, spectacularly inadequate. The single most important issue is the security of the state. The guarantor of that security cannot be foreign, it must in the long run be Afghan. It must also be powerful.
Now compare the reality of today's Iraq with the proposed future for Afghanistan. Iraq is smaller, less complex, richer, and better educated than Afghanistan. It has a stronger history as a stable state. Today it requires 600,000 security forces to maintain its fragile integrity. Yet Gordon Brown seems to believe that Afghanistan, with its history of lawlessness, its civil wars, its drugs trade, and its meddlesome neighbours, can prosper on a total security force of some 200,000 men
What is more, about a third of those security forces are expected to be policemen. The Afghan National Police are not just a poor instrument of law and order; they are an active agent of criminality.
Two thirds of them are drug addicts, and the majority are deliberate criminal oppressors of the ordinary Afghan. Systematic extortion, kidnap, theft, and rape are their stock in trade. So they do not add to security, they subtract from it. At least three quarters of the force is beyond recovery, and the best option is likely to be to start again, with a completely new force. That is not to say the task is impossible.
The Afghan National Army is different again. A conventional soldier might be horrified to watch their casual behaviour. They have faults – occasional cruelty, tribalism, variable leadership, but they are manageable. To have a chance, however, there will need to be at least four times as many as is being proposed. Without that sort of number, Afghanistan will revert to a lawless, drug-ridden bolt-hole for terrorists and insurgents. The Taliban will win, and al-Qa'ida will be the beneficiary.
We must persuade the Afghan people that we are creating a viable, long-term Afghan security solution. We must answer the question "what comes next" in a way that stops the current slow but inexorable drift back to the Taliban.
A proper Afghan security force will be expensive. The annual subsidy would need to be about $3 billion, and that is after the upfront training costs. However, it will be cheaper, in blood and treasure, than the alternative ineffective endgame, and it will offer an exit that is better than the humiliation that is currently on the cards.
Furthermore, it is not essential that Britain and America shoulder the entire burden. So far ISAF, the International Security Assistance Force, has been pathetically incompetent. One American journalist in Kabul described it to me as a "combination of nations, some of whom can't fight, and some who won't fight."
While this is unfair to some nations, it is broadly right. We would do better to persuade its allies to help with the financing of the Afghan security force, and give up on (most countries') expansion of military support. That may make the long term costs more bearable, and also reflect the importance to the whole world of bringing both drugs and terrorism under control.
We stand at an historic crossroads on this. If we are (a lot) tougher on the corruption of the Karzai regime; ensure delivery of justice on the ground, even if it is tribal justice; and create a security force that underpins a viable government, we stand a chance of delivering what no foreigner has ever done before, namely a successful Afghan state. If not, we will be allowing the waste of countless lives to achieve little more than Vietnam.
David Davis was shadow Home Secretary, 2003-2008
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David. The questions those remain unanswered. We will never know of these. The politicians are hiding these. Let us take one example. If the military plane crashes, How many died or how damaged is the plane is never told to us. Iraq war, Afghanistan, and Iraq etc are way off. We will never know. Let us go to the basic. The war was for oil. We did not find this. We have to come back. Some are buried there and some are brought tin the coffins. We give them posthumous badges of bravery and medals. We send sympathy to the families and sate, ?We will never forget them, and they served the UK well. We are proud of them. Then we send some more. That is an irony.
In other words, we are telling all, ?We are leaving. We have left the graveyard, memorial park, burial ground in Iraq that will keep this clean. We leave them far from home. We pray from 300 miles for their souls in foreign lands. We will start business again to show we mean well for Iraq. Afghanistan has the poppy and we need this to enrich ourselves. I do not think Al Qaida or Taliban grow these for their consumptions. Have you hared of the Columbia cartels smuggling dope into Sates. They thrive on this.
Oh! Come on. We are trying to cheat ourselves.
We are cheating ourselves. The politicians help us. We are fools. Gullibility like that of the jelly.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
So what David Davis and others really want is a state that is not actively opposed to their evil, greedy foreign policies, if they genuinely wanted to create a relatively stable state, free of corruption then they only need leave and one will be in place within a couple of years.
but they wont do this as they put their own interests and the interests of their own country before the people of afghanistan, as such they are little or no better than the corrupt neo-cons of the previous bush administration.
It would be difficult for the Anglo-Saxon mentality, but we need to make progress on decriminalising hard drug abuse. Even Hillary Clinton admitted we are the problem (bet she never says that again).
Rather like the Condi speech saying we were part of the problem in the Middle East, supporting stable dictators in preference to the uncertainties of the alternatives.
What we really need is PR and a government of national unity that is not afraid of the press.
Pass me the bottle. I want to come round when this is over.
Only the Afghans will deliver their state, all the west can do is buy them time to grow strong.
When will the Tories get David Davis to do a man's job on their party?
He tried to cut the allowances, he failed, he tried to go to Pakistan and sooth he President, he failed, and he is trying. Let him try. One day like the spider who fell twenty times succeeded.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Time after time, politicians say the same things to justify military action, persuading people that the action will be brief with limited loss of lives - civilian and military. Every time the opposite happens.
The Iraq "War" (when was that actually declared?) will have lasted longer than WWII and the state survives without civil war only through the continued presence of the US forces - if/when they leave, there will be a breakdown in law and order and gov't. That region will be less stable than in the days of Saddam.
The Afghan involvement might have been more successful had they concentrated an action there and avoided Iraq.
As it stands, US and UK forces will be in the region indefinitely with no hope of success or exit, but regularly changing the Bandaids to hold things together.
The US and UK cannot seem to prevent themselves from meddling, on the official basis of preventing the spread of international terrorism - the current day bogeyman du jour.
Yet when they arrest suspects in their own country, there have the devil of a job securing any convictions. Security forces seem to have no understanding of the application of law - convincing juries by having evidence beyond reasonable doubt - rather than being convinced in their own minds. The outcome is their repeated protests in public, with anger and frustration, that the law, juries and judges (anyone but them) are somehow to blame (maybe conspiring?), rather than their own inadequate investigation and legal cases.
Surely, when you keep losing, you should consider that maybe you are at fault?