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Deborah Orr: A collapse that is long overdue

Labour deserves its fate. But the people it was supposed to represent do not

Could Hazel Blears be showing some small sign of comprehension? Resigning from her ludicrous cabinet post of "Communities Secretary", she says she wants to return "to the grassroots" and to "help the Labour Party reconnect with the British people". Is it dawning at last? Does Blears actually grasp that it is not just this Government, not just Gordon Brown, but Labour that is finished, perhaps forever?

It is all too fitting that the long- overdue collapse of this Government has been precipitated by the expenses scandal. Conservatives may have claimed for moat-cleaning and servants quarters. Their leader may have paid off the mortgage on one home, while leaving the taxpayer to pay the mortgage interest on another. But a sense of entitlement and a cavalier attitude to the subsidy of the privileged by the masses is the essence of Conservatism. Labour is supposed to challenge such attitudes, not lustily embrace them.

Blears, of course, was exposed early on as a "flipper". She paid no capital gains tax on flats she had previously designated as "second homes", seemingly oblivious to the notion that if you believe in progressive taxation, then you are glad to pay your share. Labour politicians should have used their position to abolish exemption from tax on unearned income, not to take sneaky advantage of it.

Insisting that she had done nothing wrong, Blears still tried to buy her way out of trouble. She wrote out a cheque for £13,000 and waved it in the faces of the nation. Did she not realise that a person working full-time on Labour's much-vaunted minimum wage earns less than that in a year, and still pays tax and national insurance on it? Did she not understand that people lie awake at night, wracked with worry over how they are going to pay back a loan-shark's grossly inflated £130? She and so many of her colleagues have a great deal of reconnecting to do.

Yet her resignation speech was still full of cant. Blears also claimed: "My politics has always been rooted in the belief that ordinary people are capable of extraordinary things." That's not a belief, it's a fact. And anyway, you don't help "ordinary people" to achieve "extraordinary things" by making it so damned difficult for them even to get on with the ordinary things.

Nevertheless, as an "ordinary" person, under Labour, you were invited to apply for a "tax credit" if you did something as ordinary as start a family, even if your employer was rolling in it. This travesty of a situation was actually admired by Labour's supporters, and held up as a proof of the party's progressive intent. Repulsive.

Now, 30 years on from the dawn of their last "renewal", Labour is preparing to start staggering around the wilderness again. Its politicians deserve their fate, even though so many of them are ultra-keen to avoid it, by securing for themselves a seat in the Lords, of all places. But the people that they were supposed to represent do not.

And those people are even more invisible now than they were three decades ago. They are working under contract or for an agency, detached from the culture, security and profits of the organisations for which they provide essential services, and utterly powerless to do anything but accept what little they are given – or sign on.

The most picturesque – and visually memorable – aspect of Labour's previous collapse was the Winter of Discontent, in which the most modestly paid of public sector workers rebelled against a pay freeze that had been imposed on them by the Government for several high-inflation years.

Billed as an example of how Labour could not control the unions, it was much more complicated than that. Powerful unions did secure large pay rises for their members in the private sector. The strikers of 1978-79 saw none of this largesse and were as furious about that as the most red-blooded proto-Thatcherite. But while the power of the unions was curbed – and needed to be – the powerlessness of the low-paid was never addressed, not by the Conservatives, not by Labour.

The nearest Labour ever came to arguing that having a large chunk of poverty-stricken and disenfranchised people milling round society was corrosive and destabilising was the introduction of its patronisingly paternalistic – and failed – plan to "lift" millions of children out of poverty. The rhetoric was that "hard-working families" would be supported by "making work pay". Yet beyond the pitiful minimum wage there was little or no attempt to "make work pay", except the "temporary" 10p tax band.

Poverty was merely subsidised by Labour, through the machinations of an inefficient state that knew that our burgeoning social problems – educational failure, parental abuse, violent criminality – were hugely exacerbated by lack of personal prosperity, but were too gutless to make a moral case for genuine fair pay and therefore a measure of independence from Labour's ghastly, intrusive, self- serving bureaucratic schemes.

And poverty was subsidised so badly too. There was negligible investment in an expanded housing infrastructure that would make it easier to live modestly and well, or in public transport infrastructure that would make it possible to travel and work cheaply and efficiently. Those things are more desperately needed now than ever, but the great, stupid, spending spree is over.

I don't actually understand why anyone would wish to step forward and run the country now, it is so totally screwed up. I can't understand why the left keeps arguing for huge public spending projects when there so clearly is no more money. I can't understand why economists seem to believe that rising house prices are a sign of "recovery", when actually they are a sign that the economy is not "rebalancing".

I can't understand where Brown finds the resolve every morning to get out of bed and face the day. I can't understand why there is so little realisation of how tragic and divisive the last 30 years have been, and what desperately few options are left to us. It's not just the Government that's in meltdown. It's the whole bloody shebang, and it will take another 30 years or so to fix it. Well done, Labour.

d.orr@independent.co.uk

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Now what?
[info]1caro wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 12:54 am (UTC)
Hazel Blears, like most of the rest of 'em, is a hypocrite. I agree with exerything you've said, but what on earth can any one of us do about it? Big Fat Nothing. Democracy isn't just broke, it's broken in Britain. And we can bet the farm that nothing will change.
A famous man....
[info]thisanthat wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 02:43 am (UTC)
Once said,"Never trust a short person, this is because his/her head is to close to his/her bottom."
Is Hazel Blears the epitome of the poisonous DWARF? Looks like it!!
The cartoon of toady and the clock ticking tells me all
[info]famulla wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 03:08 am (UTC)
The cartoon of toady and the clock ticking tells me all
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
Let me have more please 2012 the world ends Typo Today
[info]famulla wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 03:12 am (UTC)
The cartoon of toddy and the clock ticking tells me all
I don?t trust long also I trust me and the reporters to keep me updated on the cock eating the politicians. When did this happen or is it the computer games, how I wish our dreams come true, but alas they are but dreams
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
A point well made - Working poverty!
[info]mannygoldstein wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 03:56 am (UTC)
At long last, a column in The Independent that is not about celebrity politics but about the real reason the Labour Party came into existence.

The Labour Party, by its very name, was intended to help the working class and the most vulnerable members of society. It has failed them abysmally and in the most disgraceful fashion, as child poverty, income differentials and the payment of tax by those on low incomes have soared, Labour MPs have concentrated on enriching themselves with public money.

The single worst feature of the Labour administration since 1997 has been the massive increase in working poverty, those in full-time employment who, at the end of each month, have still not earned enough to survive and are obliged to apply for government assistance in the form of a subsidy, tax credit or some other form of begging.

The horrendously complicated benefits scheme that has evolved as a result is a Frankenstein-like creature that gobbles up resources rather than helping those in need. The solution is simple, cheap and very easy, raise the level at which the low paid have to pay tax and abolish the entire tax credit, family credit and other systems of subsidy.

Get increased income to those most in need by raising child benefit, pensions and unemployment benefits. The UK has the fourth largest economy in the world, but the largest percentage of its population living in poverty. This can be changed and must be changed.

That is what the Labour Party are about, and why the current sorry lot do not deserve the once-proud name.
Re: A point well made - Working poverty!
[info]2barrows wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:36 am (UTC)
I agree, and with your well-expressed response, too. The crazy system of tax credits was introduced in 2002 by a deluded you-know-who, who seemed to believe that he was a Beveridge Mk2: http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/press_87_02.htm. A useless, misguided legacy, words fail me....
"Fraud by false representation" acording to the law dept. of Harrow local government
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 04:23 am (UTC)
I still prefer deception and false pretense - more likely to stick , on one of the pieces of the rotting remains of blatcherism shaken out of the tree yesterday.
The Brown / Balls axis demonstrated its strength as a (claimed) reforming force by shaking some pieces of the rotting remains of quisling Blatcherism out of the top branches of government. There is renewed hope that either a Cromwell or people's resort to the BNP as a means of giving Britain a measure of protection from more of the pseudu-democratic circus, will be rendered unnecessary. However, that reforming force, if real : a) can be kept on its toes; b) can be given weaponry with which to deal with the rotting remains of blatcherism in government (and fend off the gang of spivs in the wings led by a slippery toff Blair lookalike) by protest votes for the BNP. In other words an effective protest vote is a vote for your enemy's most feared enemy. If the circus prevents you from voting BNP, then utter the vote of a conscientious abstainer.
http://news.independentminds.livejournal.com/2667979.html?thread=13974987#t13974987
Re: "Fraud by false representation" acording to the law dept. of Harrow local government
[info]shakras wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 05:27 am (UTC)
according to reports, two of the sacked fraudsters Smith and Blears are fighting back today as 'wimmin against Brown' (and women)
Labour - Not Fit to Represent Us
[info]lizzie044 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 04:24 am (UTC)

After J.Rentoul's over indulgent/out of touch nonsense yesterday, (wondering what all the fuss was about!) this is an excellent piece. D.Orr really does address why so many past Labour supporters are wounded in the country today. The disappointment by the working man/woman in the street cannot be overstated enough.

I really feel until we see some police involvement with the likes of E.Morley etc, the reputation of the House will not be complete - regardless of any new faces we see.

Re: Labour - Not Fit to Represent Us
[info]mannygoldstein wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 05:50 am (UTC)
well said lizzie044, the coverage of the political crisis has been fascinating, unfortunately this article stands out in marked contrast to so many others that have been of very poor quality!
[info]strateshooter wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 04:46 am (UTC)
Its true that the country is now in a total mess. I hate to say it..but Thatcher recognized that and proceed with the creative acts of destrcution needed to clear the space for a re-build of UK inc and its families.
NuLabour have put us back years. They have spun and lied their way to power ..and their sole interest is the retntion of power. They are dishonourable people and deserve to disappear.
The old Left will rise from its ashes and at some stage will get their turn in the sun again in 10 yrs time when people punish the Tories for the acts of destruction of public services that , as grown ups, will now be forced to undertake.
Where is our long term consistency of purpose and planning though as nation ? surely we can agree between the various some common ground on all major issues as to what are our sensible paths forward. Stop treating people like children and open up the debate we all know is there to be had.
I live in Singapore..it is the best governed place in the world. Things work here , there is no QE.Its a painful time but the government lead from the front with self imposed pay cuts and spell out to their people what the various problems and options are . Singaporeans are intelligent and pragmatic folks..they know the score and know whats sensible.Why can't the UK gov treat UK citizens in the same way.
Good riddance to NuLabour ..a hollow , shallow party carried by the charm and charisma of a true political spiv(Blair) andf left in the hands of Commisar Brown and his cronies who were unable to continue the spin. May we never see its like again.
Doh
[info]billdavy1949 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:35 am (UTC)
30 years would be about the time Mrs T arrived and the rot really set in.
Thanks, Debbie ...
[info]journeyman01 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 04:56 am (UTC)
... all this needed saying. And yes, you're right - well done, Labour. Oh, and we mustn't forget Bliar's part in all this. Welcome to Broken Britain - and likely to be that way for some time yet.
BRING BACK RESPONSIBILITY TO GOVERNMENT:
[info]bgarvie wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 05:11 am (UTC)
Deborah has put together an excellent and astute analysis. Greed and sleaze have become dominant features in political life and lack of recognition of responsibility in Government its trade mark. The country will only revive its fortunes if it can elect a fresh, compassionate Government that will bring change to the body politic.
Detached from reality
[info]lucleon wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:10 am (UTC)
Deborah Orr seems to be as detached from reality as a cabinet minister. Truth is always more complex than a rant. Today there will be kids in the UK being taught to newly-built schools, young parents supported at Sure Start centres and patients receiving fast treatment in new hospitals. Labour's record is patchy, and bitterly disheartening to those of us who rejoiced in '97, but this kind of generalised and self-indulgent journalist's ramble says nothing. Better Polly Toynbee - she actually does get out there and gets herself informed. How about it, Deborah?
Re: Detached from reality
[info]chrisp666 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:30 am (UTC)
Really? Are you sure? Sorry, unless you can come up with a few citations, not ZanuLabour propaganda, I find your statement as detached from reality as you claim Deborah's to be. The country is f*cked, and you don't have to look too far to see why. Despite what the liars would have us believe, all is not for the best in the best of all possible worlds.
Re: Detached from reality - [info]indypen - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 03:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Overdue collapse
[info]paul_de_vries wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:08 am (UTC)
Well put, Deborah. Your strongest point being the lack of difference Labour made since 1997, a difference that was hoped for was and necessary after the (partly equally necessary) Thatcherite revolution. In fact Blair and Brown continued the market thinking that for Thatcher was a belief and for them an pure instrument that makes polticians lazy: they delegate their leadership task to uncontrolled and uncontrollable forces.
Only trouble is that voting for the Tories won't change things either.
I don't envy you Brits at the moment.
3o yeasr of failed and tainted Thatcherism - Bliars and Broons legacy
[info]oszkowice wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:11 am (UTC)
The only problem with doing nothing as if that was a solution is that the same people will continue to suffer as they always have. All the indications are that Labour will do nothing to reign in the banks and the same old soft touch "financial regulation" (pause for laughter) will continue unabated. The money for huge capital projects should taken place years ago not just because there is a crisis. Meanwhile Cameron is off flirting with neo fascists in Europe. We are slipping back to where we were not thirty years ago but 70 years ago, Be afraid be very afraid.
Wrong, Deborah
[info]owlqueen wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:32 am (UTC)
She just jumped before she was pushed. Without Jacqui Smith and Hazel Blears, the fraud quotient of the Cabinet was reduced just enough for me to go back to Labour after a good night's sleep on it. I had been thinking of voting Green, but the resignations convinced me Brown was serious about cleaning out the idiots in his Cabinet. I hope Darling gets the push too but it had a surprising effect on me - I was still undecided at 11pm last night when I fell asleep but woke up at 7am, got out there, and there was no choice left in my mind.

Odd how it works, but now I understand basic psychology better than I thought I did.
Re: Wrong, Deborah
[info]shakras wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:55 am (UTC)
Sacked for bringing public office into disrepute by committing fraud on the public purse by false presentation, not for being an unscrupulous bloodstained snout.
looking for friends
[info]suarbaby2009 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:56 am (UTC)
--==* Sugarbabymeet.C'om *==-- It's where Sugarbaby (women who are mature, rich and experienced) and men who like them can meet.
Wounded Britain
[info]disdain_in_mind wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:26 am (UTC)
This piece doesn't just pinpoint why 'so many Labour supporters are wounded' today. It pinpoints why so many Britons, of whatever political stripe, are wounded today. We see, and are surrounded by, the collapse of an entire political generation.

Yes, it will take decades, possibly generations, to deal with the consequences. And we'll do so whilst clambering over the wreckage of political system, society and economy which they delivered to us. Shame and disgrace for them: a lifetime of work for those who come next.
What a pile of nonsense
[info]mrjol wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:31 am (UTC)
Having had the misfortune to read this comment piece I am more convinced than ever of the Independent's bandwagonesque approach to political reporting. You'd think we're going about our daily lives tripping over tanks and avoiding civil unrest at every street corner. Things are a hell of a lot better than they were back in the days when journalists used to get tired and emotional in the pub rather than actually producing copy. On the street people are not clamouring for party political change but do want stability and hope - not the broken analysis of the whining journalistic elite
Re: What a pile of nonsense
[info]indypen wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:28 pm (UTC)
You blame journos for the present troubles. I bet you also Blame the freedom of info act as well. Anything else to blame apart from the culpable MPs?
Re: What a pile of nonsense - [info]mrjol - Friday, 5 June 2009 at 09:06 am (UTC) Expand
Re: What a pile of nonsense - [info]indypen - Friday, 5 June 2009 at 06:42 pm (UTC) Expand
A collapse - in whose interests?
[info]peter_d_smith wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:46 am (UTC)
Gordon Brown finds the resolve to get out of bed every morning in the same way as so many of us, week in, week out, get out on the streets and attempt to engage with the electorate. We party members are unpaid volunteers who don't just sit back and bemoan the parlous state of our democratic system but try to do something about it in the face of the endless smug cynicism of so many of our media commentators on their fat wages. To wish for the collapse of the system, to wish on the nation the Conservative Party and a motley collection of nasty right wing parties suggests that you have taken leave of your progressive senses.
It is so easy to blame politicians for everything that goes wrong, for everything that has not been achieved. It is so much harder to get involved in the political and democratic process. Blame everyone else, especially politicians, most of whom, in spite of the relentless exposures, are decent, honest, committed and extremely hard-working men and women trying to make a positive contribution. How much harder to look at ourselves and our unwillingness to engage, to get off our backsides and make our democracy work.
Good riddance to Blears and any politicians who have milked the system. But do not wish for a political apocalypse. Such a thing would be quite terrifying in its consequences. And whatever you say, Gordon Brown is a giant amongst pigmies, and is by far and away the best person for the job of steering the country out of its present economic woes.
Re: A collapse - in whose interests?
[info]themartindale wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 09:02 am (UTC)
You ARE Gordon Brown and I claim my prize!

p.s. Can I also have my 10p tax-band back?
Or, better still, how about zero tax on the first 10,000?
That's the sort of thing a true Labour PM would have done.
Too late now, though.
Re: A collapse - in whose interests? - [info]indypen - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 03:23 pm (UTC) Expand
Good article.
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:47 am (UTC)
Good article. We have Brown constantly raving about Tory cuts as his only defence of the mess he is making by allowing Darling to issue a non-budget that seemed to affirm that all was well. Yet sensible economists are saying that only really strict controls on public spending will suffice. Like, as one said on Sky last evening, a complete freeze for five years. Whoever wins the next election will be faced by this reality and that coward Brown knows it.

As to the recovery in the housing market, well the average price is still one hundred and fifty thousand. The average wage is twenty five thousand. So to get back to the sensible maximum of lending four times income means, surely, that prices need to fall a lot more yet.
Hazel Blears
[info]mrbac wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 09:01 am (UTC)
The answer to the question posed in the first line of this excellent piece is of course no. Hazel Blears has done nothing with her life since acquiring her moderate degree, except perfect her limited political skills. She lacks the raw ability to do anything other than to be a second rate politician. Her resignation letter is full of political smoke and devoid of substance. She is not interested in re-connecting with the people - she writes this not as a result of intellectual effort - it is merely the outward symbol of a politician's Palovian response. Devoid of intellectual content her letter merely indicates that she is capable of exhibiting basic reflexes specific to her chosen profession. She is now what she always was, interested in power but unaware of the extent of the limitations imposed on her ambition by her lack of talent and intellect. She is, regrettably, a typical example of the modern politician.
[info]markmyword1949 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 09:39 am (UTC)
An excellent explanation of why I'll not be voting Labour.
Good article
[info]rightsaidken wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 09:48 am (UTC)
Thanks Deborah for a very good snapshot of the current mess and its background. This Labour Coalition needs to die and soon - it has ruined the country and left us with no affordable housing, a transport system that is too expensive for ordinary people to use and an absurd bureacracy that still keeps growing like inoperable cancer.
New Labour RIP
[info]thorntongate wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:03 am (UTC)
An excellent obituary for New Labour.

Thanks Deborah!
Salvation.
[info]fulkehunke wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:33 am (UTC)
Is this article a film review for Terminator salvation....I think if we look back thirty years we will see Debs has done very well for herself. She makes it sound like she's living outside the city walls in a plague pit. Get some anti depressants and check your bank account,should cheer you up.
Tax Credits a modern Speenhamland System
[info]mfriedmanisdead wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 12:11 pm (UTC)
A good article Ms Orr, but it does not go far enough. I take a more cynical veiw of the pupose of Tax Credits, and a minimum wage set bellow all the means tests and so is irrelevant.
Tax Credits are in reality a means tested poverty trap and a back door pay policy, a continuation of the Calahan Healy pay policy by other means.
After all why ask for higher wages if its all going to be clawed back in reduced Tax Credits and Housing Benefit.
This is a monatarist policy, after all it was Milton Friedman (in the 70s) who said that it was impossible to have full employment without inflation because Unions kept wages artificially high.
He was wrong about this, as the problem was overcapacity saturated demand, and the rich attempting to use differential wage inflation to undo the post war re-distribution of wealth, the poor were mearly trying to maintain living standards and playing catch up.
New Labour are an monaterist party, it is the failure of the monaterist economic model that has caused this economic collapse.
Tax Credis and the minimum wage are a con.
A subsidy to bad employers, that encourages low wages.
Housing Benefit treats Tax Credits as income and claws back any income above JSA + 5 pouns at 65per cent.
JSA rates are 64.30 pounds (less if you are under 25).
Tax Credits mainly benefit those who do not claim Housing Benefit such as homeowners.
The real rate of clawback for the low paid is approx 80 per cent (ta, no wonder inequality is higher than at any time during Major or Thatcher.
85 per cent clawback ( from the cumlitive effect of ITax, NI, Housing Benefit, Council Tax Benefit, and Tax Credits) is iniqutus as the top rate of Tax is only 40 per cent (if they pay it).
The Speenhamland System in the 18th/19th centuary was a means tested benefit for those in work and all it did was encourage employers to pay low wages.

Low wages are one of the main reasons for this economic collapse and New Labour's massive deficiet.
Low wages mean low demand and collapsing prices and deflation without a unsustainable credit bubble.
Low wages mean much higher goverment spending on means testing benefit for those in work.
It is this and other forms of coarpriate welfarism for the rich and big buisness (such as PFI) that has caused New Labour's massive budget deficiet.
New Labour's economic policy is STATE MONATARISM, this is a curious mixture of Thatcherite free markets and Stalinism (Gordons 5 Yr plans and meaninless proformance targets), and was even less efficient than Thatcherism.
This is using taxpayers money to fund the private sector, without any government control.
This is why any green shoots will wither and die and child poverty will keep on increasing until the government abandons monaterist policies.
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