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Dominic Lawson: Let's not forget what Polanski did

The film director has been treated with extraordinary indulgence

It was on his arrival in Zurich to pick up yet another lifetime achievement award that Polanski was arrested, at the request of the US Justice Department, which has sought him ever since 1978 when he fled rather then face prison for a crime to which he had pleaded guilty.

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It was on his arrival in Zurich to pick up yet another lifetime achievement award that Polanski was arrested, at the request of the US Justice Department, which has sought him ever since 1978 when he fled rather then face prison for a crime to which he had pleaded guilty.

A man who drugged and sodomised a 13-year old girl would not usually receive the uncritical support of the political and literary establishments. On the other hand, Roman Polanski is not your common-or-garden paedophile: he is possibly the world's most admired film director.

It was on his arrival in Zurich to pick up yet another lifetime achievement award that Polanski was arrested, at the request of the US Justice Department, which has sought him ever since 1978 when he fled rather then face prison for a crime to which he had pleaded guilty.

To say that the Swiss Justice Ministry's swoop on the 76-year-old French citizen has aroused outrage in high places would be an understatement. France's Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner denounced the arrest as "sinister". Polanski's would-be hosts, the Swiss Association of Directors, are angrier still, calling it "a grotesque judicial farce and a monstrous cultural scandal". In the UK, the novelist Robert Harris – who is working with Polanski on a film of one of his books – said that he was "shocked and stunned... it strikes me as disgusting treatment." The United Nations has stepped in: the Bulgarian Director-Designate of Unesco, Irina Bokova, declaring that "Polanski is a world renowned intellectual... even though I am not aware of any details, this is shocking."

Ms Bokova should acquaint herself with the details of the original case. She might even find them quite shocking, too. In 2003 the Los Angeles Superior Court Judge David Wesley unsealed the grand jury testimony of Samantha Galley taken 26 years earlier. In it, the 13-year old, who aspired to become a model, described how Polanski offered to take photos of her for French Vogue... in the house of the film star Jack Nicholson.

Video: Polanski asks for release

There, the 44-year-old Polanski plied her with the drug Quaalude mixed in glasses of champagne. Then, after insisting that she join him in the Jacuzzi, Polanski said: "Let's go in the other room". From this point on, the testimony is harrowing, so skip the next few paragraphs if you are of a squeamish disposition.

"Q. What did you do when he said, 'Let's go into the other room'?

A. I was going 'No, I think I better go home', because I was afraid. So I just went and I sat down on the couch.

Q. What were you afraid of?

A. Him.... He sat down beside me and asked if I was OK. I said 'No'.

Q. What did he say?

A. He goes 'Well, you'll be better'. And I go, 'No I won't. I have to go home. He said 'I'll take you home soon'.

Q. Then what happened?

A. Then he went down and he started performing cuddliness... I was kind of dizzy, you know, like things were kind of blurry sometimes. I was having trouble with my coordination... I wasn't fighting really because I, you know, there was no one else there and I had no place to go."

Q. Did he ask you about being on the pill?

A. He asked, he goes, 'Are you on the pill?' and I went, 'No' and he goes 'When did you have your period?' and I said, 'I don't know. A week or two. I'm not sure'... He goes, 'Come on. You have to remember'. And I told him I didn't.... and right after I said I was not on the pill... and he goes... and then he put me – wait. Then he lifted my legs up farther and he went in through my anus.

Q. Did you resist at that time?

A. A little bit, but not really, because...

Q. Because what?

A. Because I was afraid of him."

This testimony took place barely two weeks after the incident – Samantha Galley did not obey Polanski's demand that she not tell her mother about "our little secret."

We can predict the sort of defence that Polanski's present-day supporters will make in the coming days. They will not be so crass as to suggest, as the new head of Unesco did, that because he is a "world-renowned intellectual", he should be judged differently from lesser beings – although I'm sure that some of them believe it.

They will suggest that the 13-year-old girl was mature for her age and complicit. Samantha Geimer (as she now is) has already said to those who want her somehow to take the blame, "You weren't there. You don't know." And what if she had been partially complicit? Is it less heinous because the renowned film director used his fame and the promise of his support to seduce a 13-year-old?

His supporters will also point out that Ms Geimer herself has previously urged that the proceedings be dropped, because they are embarrassing her family. She certainly deserves even more sympathy on that score; it is one of the perennial problems with rape cases that the victim will very often prefer her assailant to remain unprosecuted, rather than face the ordeal of cross-examination at the hands of his lawyers.

Polanski himself has never, so far as I know, expressed any contrition for what he did. At the time of Bill Clinton's impeachment over the Monica Lewinsky affair, the director observed that, "There's a different justice for people who are public figures than for those who are not", with the implication that somehow he too had been a victim of unfair double standards over matters of sexual behaviour.

The truth is that Polanski has been treated with extraordinary indulgence because of his fame. When in 2003 Polanski was nominated as best director for The Pianist, but didn't attend the Oscar ceremony because of his outstanding arrest warrant, the event's host, Steve Martin, joked to the Hollywood audience "Roman Polanski is here...GET HIM!" Polanski won that evening, and received a standing ovation in absentia.

I do not deny his genius, nor his contribution to cinematic art; but I also share the view expressed by the historian Lord Acton that "if we may debase the currency [of the moral code] for the sake of genius, or success, or rank, or reputation... then it serves where it ought to reign".

If that means nothing to Polanski's defenders among the literati, let them think of this: if it were their 13-year-old daughter who had been drugged and sodomised, would they still feel that the perpetrator was in fact the victim?

d.lawson@independent.co.uk

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[info]dnmurphy wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 12:05 am (UTC)
Agreed. Far from saying he was treated badly, he should have been left in prison for all his life
[info]stephensewell wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 02:26 am (UTC)
Who on earth are you talking about? "the arts helped cover up for a writer who retired to penertrate primary school age boys on a pacific island"? I'd consider myself pretty well on top of what's happening in the arts in Australia, and I have no idea what your accusation refers to.
(no subject) - [info]rexxxxxxxx - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 09:47 am (UTC) Expand
What!?
[info]met345234 wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 12:58 am (UTC)
Some paedophiles are more guilty than others!

In Australia the arts helped cover up for a writer who retired to penertrate primary school age boys on a pacific island. And simultaneously we all see them spending their establishment hand out to write/film anti establishment stories about evil child rapists.
[info]rodrocket wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 01:04 am (UTC)
he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.personally i hope he spends the rest of his life in prison.
This is one time when ...
[info]john_b_ellis wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 01:59 am (UTC)
... I find myself in agreement with Mr Lawson. Completely!
Re: This is one time when ...
[info]royb55 wrote:
Wednesday, 30 September 2009 at 07:12 am (UTC)
I don't know where abutler123 is from but raping a child is pretty damn absolute concept in any country I have every visited. All your talk about Spanish penal codes and if Polansk's actions had been a few hunded miles south, I live part time in Costa Rica that definately has a Spanish code of justice and the age of concent is 18 and if you get caught having sex with an underage girl, you are going to do 16 years. The Spanish age of consent at 13, maybe if you are the girls boyfriend and he is no more than 15, not some middleaged letcherous geezer.

As far as the girl's testimony, it was heartbreaking, and unlike Polanski who skipped to France this young lady was hounded by the press relentlessly.

But I would like to hear more of your point of view, stop down to one of the waterfront Bar's in Brooklyn, we would love to talk to you.
s
[info]abutler123 wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 03:04 am (UTC)
No mention of comparative justice here. Polanski was found guilty (at a trial whose fairness is open to question, but that's another matter) of statutory rape, not rape. In Spain, for example, and many latin american countries, such as Mexico, whose penal codes derive from Spain, the age of consent is 13. Had Polanski's actions taken place just a few hundred miles to the south of LA there would likely have been no case to answer, unless the prosecution had established that consent was witheld, and that does not appear to be the case (Lawson quotes the girl's testimony without context and without question, but it is worth bearing in mind that she would have been coached beforehand in what to say what not to say). Peodophelia is not an absolute concept, but is partly determined by culture.
[info]turk_diddler wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 11:53 am (UTC)
In some cultures he could have married her if he wanted, while in Alabama it's illegal to play dominoes on a Sunday. What neither of these two things alter is that Polanski apparently drugged and sodomised a 13-year-old girl. By any humane standard it's really not on, is it?
Then he should have gone to Mexico - [info]pinhut - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 04:07 pm (UTC) Expand
Comparative justice is bunk - [info]may1412 - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 06:35 pm (UTC) Expand
(no subject) - [info]dajhilton - Wednesday, 30 September 2009 at 03:20 am (UTC) Expand
La France vous est un pays où les violeurs enfant peuvent marcher libre ?
[info]aj1806 wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 03:08 am (UTC)
La France vous est un pays où les violeurs enfant peuvent marcher libre ?

Is everyone forgetting....Polanski, a 44 year old man, CONFESSED to the RAPE (oral, vaginal and sodomy) of a 13 year old child, after coaxing and intimidating her in to getting drunk (on Champagne) and giving her drugs (half a tablet of Qualude). These are not allegations, he has confessed to them. He then was not man enough to face punishment but fled like a common criminal. A 44 yr old Paedophile who intoxicates and sodomizes a 13 yr old child....everyone rising to his defense should have their heads examined.
Re: La France vous est un pays où les violeurs enfant peuvent marcher libre ?
[info]starlingnl wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:13 am (UTC)
I know a man who committed murder. The only reason he kept changing his story is the fact that the lawyers would go "Right, confess, and you'll get a reduced sentence" *negotiations ensue* "Hang on, plead not guilty, and you'll get a reduce sentence!" *negotiations ensue* "Ah, no, you've got to confess". Etc. ad nauseum. A lot of the time confessions/denials of guilt have nothing to do with whether someone is actually guilty or not.

Polanski pleaded guilty because he was told his sentence would be reduced. The girl has also stated that he did NOT rape her but that it was consensual sex. As somebody has said already, it's only called rape because she was under age in that particular location.

I think you're all acting like Outraged from Turnbridge Wells, to be honest.
Polanski
[info]barryhoy wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 03:22 am (UTC)
The (im ) moral outrage over the arrest of Polanski is sickening . He pleaded GUILTY to this . It is well known that he has been a fugitive for many years , avoiding the U.S because of it .
Now he has been caught . He should serve his punishment . If you ask me it should be a more substantial custodial sentence because he has evaded the consequences for so long .
One comparison worth considering from U.K perspective . Ronald Biggs .
This Polanski case , concerning such despicable conduct is far more worthy of this sort of bulldog determination to get their man .
In this particular set of circumstances , contrary to justified and popular anti- U.S sentiment over so many present day issues , I say BRAVO to the U.S .
BARRY HOY , HONG KONG
Polanski's arrest has exposed many closet Paedophiles !
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 04:31 am (UTC)
Dominic I rarely agree with your commentary, but on Polanski your comments cannot be faulted.

Your stand must be applauded.

The likes of Polanski must face justice; race, religon, creed, personal circumstances must never cloud the evil a person does. All those who defend Polanski are guilty by association and must be viewed as potential paedophiles.
[info]abha74 wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 04:51 am (UTC)
It's sickening that the so many members of the so called cultural intelligentsia are "shocked and angry" at the arrest of this child rapist. It shows the sickening immorality and depravity of Hollywood and segments of the French government that this criminal has been allowed to keep making films and receive awards. He drugged and raped a 13 year old and fled from justice!!!!
Faux "anti-establishment" rhetoric
[info]lbjlindbergh wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 05:22 am (UTC)
There have been just as many artists and "members of the intelligentsia" speaking out against Polanski, so why give the impression that there is a monolithic entity called the "political and literary establishments". (Why "literary" anyway? Because one UK author makes a stupid statement?) Polanski must face the legal consequences, no doubt. But using this as an occasion for a member of the "journalistic establishment" to engage in moralistic, "anti-establishment" posturing is just ridiculous.
Re: Faux "anti-establishment" rhetoric
[info]stephensewell wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:28 pm (UTC)
This is just a ludicrous claim. Bill Henson is NOT some "second rate photographer" but one of Australia's - and the world's - most renowned photographers and he did not "trawl schools" "looking for under age girls", but worked through the Education Department looking for models, whose parents were then contacted and who gave their written permission - and in many cases sat in on the photographic sessions themselves, with results that are generally acknowledged to be both beautiful and sublime, and according to the Classification Board perfectly suitable for public display and dissemination. The vile, dispicable hatred for artists in many of these posts is bewildering, as is their frequent distortion of the simple facts.
Polanski as paedophile
[info]vaitibi wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 05:23 am (UTC)
Why are we surprised that the Arts community is against Polanski being extradited to the US to face charges he has already pleaded guilty to? Answer because of double standards. The arts comunity can do whatever they like 'because they are artists'. The same problem has reared its ugly, hypocritical, head in Australia where a second rate photographer has trawled schools looking for under age girls for his photographic exhibitions and the 'arts community' bleat very loudly with fine sounding words that because it is art it should be allowed. It is not art. it is phart!
Did Polanski really do this?
[info]bleedingekk wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 06:17 am (UTC)
I didn't realise the case was so serious. I applaud the girl for being so brave and for telling her mum. Polansky is a brillian artist BUT what he did was very very stupid. He shouldn't get away with it just because he's Roman Polanski.
[info]journal_1234 wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 06:34 am (UTC)
I totally agree with Dominic Lawson. I hope the UN wakes up to its representatives views.
AND WHILE WE ARE AT IT
[info]sidsnot wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 06:39 am (UTC)
Sure and let's not forget what Tony Blair did. Mind you killing thousands of people in an illegal war is OK for being President of Europe. When Blair becomes EU President look out for the next World War.
Disgusting and Depressing
[info]claphamomnibus wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 06:56 am (UTC)
Is Bernard Kouchner gone mad, decrying justice for this revolting paedophilic rapist who after pleading guilty fled the country to avoid justice? Shame on him for putting 'cultural' networking above justice, especially in so appalling a case. Congratulations to the LA justice department and to the Swiss Ministry of Justice. Let it be seen that fame money and connections will not sway justice.
[info]cm999 wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 07:20 am (UTC)
Perhaps we should boycott the products of all these artists who seem to think that because this chap has made a few films he shouldnt face justice for the rape of a minor.

If find it truly unbeliveable the amount of support that is being expressed in the media for a convicted rapist. I wonder how they would feel if the victim was someone know to them personally.
Paedophile Polanski
[info]londonrebel wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 07:59 am (UTC)
'A man who drugged and sodomised a 13-year old girl would not usually receive the uncritical support of the political and literary establishments. On the other hand, Roman Polanski is not your common-or-garden paedophile: he is possibly the world's most admired film director.'

I admit Polanski is a great director and I also concede that Polanski suffered enormously with the murder of his wife Sharon Tate but Polanski's artistic skills have nothing at all to do with this carnal crime committed against a 13-year old. Art and crime are not mutually exclusive in fact they often intersect but art does not make crime any less criminal. How many others did he rape. Put him on trial.

Comparative criminality
[info]bobbellinhell wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:03 am (UTC)
The enthusiasm of the right wing for pursuing Polanski, allegedly responsible for one single crime, contrasts oddly with their lack of enthusiasm for pursuing Bush and Blair, definitely responsible for giving orders that led to tens of thousands of civilian deaths in Iraq.
Re: Comparative criminality
[info]londonrebel wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:36 am (UTC)
Do your observations make Polanski innocent? Or are all criminals exonerated when lined up alongside Bush and Blair?
Re: Comparative criminality - [info]starlingnl - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 10:28 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Comparative criminality - [info]kevinwell - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 11:53 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Comparative criminality - [info]human_nature101 - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 12:29 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Comparative criminality - [info]bint_alshamsa - Wednesday, 30 September 2009 at 01:12 am (UTC) Expand
Justice
[info]amvet wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:06 am (UTC)
Clearly there are two justice systems, one for the wealthy, well connected and well advised and one for all others.

Will Bush be prosecuted for defrauding us into two wars? Unlikely.

Will Cheney be prosecuted for an illegal policy of torture? Unlikely.

Will some Afghan get eight years for lying to a federal agent? Probably.
Re: Justice
[info]lisas_cat wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:48 am (UTC)
As others have noted above, it is very tedious having the same old comparisons with Bush and Blair wheeled out with tenuous links to every other news story.

"Boy arrested for torturing cat" - Oh that'll be Blair's fault for taking us to war!

"Banks bring about downfall of economy" - If Bush hadn't started the war the banks never would have done that!

For goodness sake, Polanski's crime is nothing to do with the Middle East, Afghanistan, American or British foreign policy. Go and find an article that's actually related to those stories, if you're so desperate to have at least one moan per day about Bush and Blair.
Re: Justice - [info]sidsnot - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 10:00 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice - [info]bint_alshamsa - Wednesday, 30 September 2009 at 01:15 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice - [info]falanf - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 11:35 am (UTC) Expand
I'm a Celebrity - Get me off!
[info]rebukemenot wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:38 am (UTC)
Endemic in celebrity circles - how often do we see a guilty celebrity (sports, hollywood, fashion, musician) walk from a courtroom smiling.
Forgive me if i did not include Prime Ministers and Presidents. They commit mass murder with impunity (Sanctions - illegal invasions...)

Polanski? If this guy did commit the crime as described - then yes, he should face criminal proceedings.


David
Justice, but at what cost?
[info]dourscot wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:42 am (UTC)
The case is he has to answer is a serious one and it should not be taken lightly. But the victim wishes that the case be dropped and for that reason alone I think the authorities should let it go. If not, what started out as a matter of legality and morality will turn into anotnher example of state prosecutors pursuing their target no matter what the cost to all involved.
Re: Justice, but at what cost?
[info]may1412 wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:45 pm (UTC)
I do not agree. Polanski pleaded guilty but then evaded justice. The interest in seeing justice done is not merely that of Ms Geimer or for any other victim of a crime. If that were the case, then we may as well condone vigilanteism. Justice must be seen to be done particularly in a case like this where the defendant pleads guilty but then does not stick around to be punished. A criminal sentence is supposed to serve as a deterrent to others who may also commit an offence. You may argue whether in fact it does, but that does not change the aim.

To that end, everyone has an interest in seeing justice done because that is the guarantee that justice will be done if you are accused or if you are attacked. This is why the sentences for jumping bail, or interfering with a criminal prosecution, or for perjury are so high. Frankly, Polanski was stupid and short-sighted to flee, because the sentence that he will get for doing so will undoubtedly exceed what he would have received for the offence. Given his age, he should expect to spend a considerable portion of the rest of his life in gaol whether that is in Switzerland whilst he fights extradition, or the US. After all, would you let this man out on bail? His word is not exactly his bond, is it?


[info]xxvandalizexx wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 09:11 am (UTC)

Starlingni: Well, you're just as bad as the 'outraged'. You put forward conjecture for what reason? The discussion is about the moral confusion surrounding a man who is guilty of molesting a child.

Feeling strongly about a child abuse case should be natural and normal. Being 'too cool for school' is a waste of time.



NOW WHAT ARE THE REAL FACTS?
[info]sidsnot wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 10:08 am (UTC)
There is this 44 year old licentious, depraved, famous film director who obviously has a string of these outrages to his name. Then there is this 13 year innocent girl with no make-up wearing a school uniform, straight from the convent school with no idea about sex or who Jack Nicholson is. Open and shut case.
Re: NOW WHAT ARE THE REAL FACTS?
[info]doug_piranha wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 11:40 am (UTC)
blimey you really are blind to the facts - aren't you.
if you read a biography of Polanski you will read that he does like young girls "very young girls"
depraved ? Yes thats pretty well established.

this girl was drugged and sodomised - so what has the school uniform got to do with it ?
Oh yes - nothing - just your ramblings in the defence of a paedophile rapist.

With his money and celebrity status - the idea he pleaded guilty to a crime he
did not commit is lunacy. He plea bargained - he admitted his guilt.
Your efforts to excuse this creep are sickening.
Re: NOW WHAT ARE THE REAL FACTS? - [info]sidsnot - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 02:27 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: NOW WHAT ARE THE REAL FACTS? - [info]doug_piranha - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 04:15 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: NOW WHAT ARE THE REAL FACTS? - [info]sidsnot - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 06:01 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: NOW WHAT ARE THE REAL FACTS? - [info]sidsnot - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 06:21 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: NOW WHAT ARE THE REAL FACTS? - [info]richard_bates - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 10:26 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: NOW WHAT ARE THE REAL FACTS? - [info]arclight99 - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 05:10 pm (UTC) Expand
[info]human_nature101 wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 10:22 am (UTC)
He should be locked up in jail for the rest of his life. I am horrified at the number of people jumping to his defense. Yes he may be brilliant in his field of work but he commited a serious crime that punishable by law regardless of who the offender may be. Who is to say that similar offenses have not been committed subsequently?
[info]royb55 wrote:
Wednesday, 30 September 2009 at 06:51 am (UTC)
That's not quite the way it went, the judge sent Polanski to Chino Prison for a psychiatric evaluation prior to sentencing. Polanski's lawyers wanted that time to be considered "time served" and he should go free with private counseling. The judge wasn't buying any of that nonsense so Polanski skipped the country.
Sure, let's not forget that, but...
[info]just_some_bloke wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 10:31 am (UTC)
Let's also remember the US justice system cut a deal with him, a so-called plea bargain, and he did the time in prison that he got as a result of that, and was released at the end of it. Only then did the judge go back on the deal and try to get a longer sentence. Only then did this vindictive American campaign start.

Let's not forget that.
Re: Sure, let's not forget that, but...
[info]ourmaninferney wrote:
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 10:54 am (UTC)
Exactly. However, I'm sure the hang 'em high brigade will continue to ignore the facts of the case.
Re: Sure, let's not forget that, but... - [info]kawasakiman - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 07:22 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Sure, let's not forget that, but... - [info]may1412 - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 08:54 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Sure, let's not forget that, but... - [info]dunque123 - Tuesday, 29 September 2009 at 11:40 am (UTC) Expand
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