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Robert Fisk: Is this the price of America's new friendship with Syria?

World Focus: Pro-Damascus generals held for the assassination that sparked turmoil in Lebanon walk free after four years

A man carries a poster showing the released Lebanese generals, with the word 'Wanted' replaced by 'Free'

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A man carries a poster showing the released Lebanese generals, with the word 'Wanted' replaced by 'Free'

They're out. The four top men blamed for the murder of the Lebanese ex-prime minister Rafiq Hariri in the Saint Valentine's Day massacre four years ago have been freed from their drab prison at Roumieh north of Beirut, amid a flurry of gunfire and fireworks. In Damascus – their home from home if you believe what Mr Hariri's men tell you – they must be drinking champagne.

Once more the UN donkey, clip-clopping on to the world stage after the murder of Mr Hariri, has been proved a mule. Judge Daniel Fransen, of the UN tribunal, declared in the Hague yesterday that the Big Four – how well we know their names in Lebanon – should go free: The Lebanese General Security commander Major-General Jamel Sayed, the former Internal Security director general Major-General Ali Haj, the ex-intelligence director general Raymond Aza and the former Presidential Guards commander Brigadier General Mustafa Hamdan.

There was much kissing and ululating among the relatives outside the north Beirut prison when Mr Fransen declared – quite correctly in law, it has to be added – that there was, after a four year investigation, "insufficient evidence" to continue the detention of the men. If this "evidence" existed (and the UN examined millions of phone calls recorded by British intelligence on Mount Troudos in Cyprus), then it failed to prevent the decision yesterday. Barack Obama's new friendship with President Bashar al-Assad of Syria must be going great guns.

Guns, unfortunately, may be the issue of the day, since Lebanon's national elections start on 7 June, when the growing Shiite-Muslim opposition, along with a weird Christian ex-General's party, threaten to collapse the Hariri-led bloc that has led the Lebanese government for four years, albeit with a year-old veto on cabinet decisions by Hizbollah. And here lies the problem. In five weeks' time, Hizbollah, the most loyal and the most security-conscious guerrilla movement in the Middle East – a new arrest in Lebanon of three alleged "spies" in the organisation attests to this – wants to depose the narrow majority of seats held by Mr Hariri's son, Saad, and his supporters (including the world's greatest nihilist, Walid Jumblatt, the Druze leader). Well, we shall see.

So who killed Rafiq Hariri? Until yesterday, the Lebanese, whose protests after the massacre forced the Syrian army out of Lebanon, thought they knew. And who was it who wanted, as President of the United States, to open a new door to the Syrians? President Obama. And who was it who stood next to Rafiq Hariri's son, Saad, in Beirut, three days ago, to assure him of US support? Why, Mr Obama's Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, of course.

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Oh come on Robert...
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:45 am (UTC)
The whole painted finger pointing at Syria stunk to high heaven, there was absolutely no gain to Syria in doing what was alleged, in fact strategically it would be seen as very much a case of shooting oneself in the foot if you analyse the events that followed...

Who stood to gain...? Certainly not Syria, who do we know in that area is past masters of the false flag and the divide and conquer strategy..?

Who saw Syria as a massive block into the building of the proposed US super base? Or an entrenched Syria being a massive block against further annexation of Lebanon per se its southern river that a certain country has its eye on because they are running out of fresh water.

Why has it never reached western media that the crater left behind by the explosion was radioactive? An explosion that obliterated the vehicle but was very confined, certainly not your run of the mill fertiliser and nails mob that is certain.

C'mon Robert you can do better than this... the only evidence that ever pointed to Syria was the declaration by Bush and his toadies and these people have spent four years in the nick on that very say so...
Put up the evidence or shut up!
[info]martin44 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:37 am (UTC)
It's time to recognise the possibility that Israel, Syria and Lebanon along with the new state of Palestine could one day agree to share the water resources of the region so that everybody gets a fair share and not time to impute motives based on no evidence against either Syria or Israel for the murder of al-Hariri and his associates.
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]ancientoneuk - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 03:10 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]ganef - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 09:36 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]goatbucket - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 11:38 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]ganef - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:01 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]goatbucket - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:38 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]ganef - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:02 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]goatbucket - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:35 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]ganef - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:54 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]ganef - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:56 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]exec_md - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 10:00 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]goatbucket - Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:14 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]fakhry - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 06:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]keeblerlorien - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:10 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]keeblerlorien - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:14 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]goatbucket - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:43 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]ganef - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:27 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Put up the evidence or shut up! - [info]martin44 - Friday, 1 May 2009 at 01:16 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Oh come on Robert...
[info]achilles0200 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 06:56 am (UTC)
ancientoneuk: "Who stood to gain...? Certainly not Syria, who do we know in that area is past masters of the false flag and the divide and conquer strategy..?"

Oooooh, let me guess! That puts Israel in the frame? Is there any conspiracy you would not ascribe to that country?

Re: Oh come on Robert... - [info]hussdaa - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 11:03 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Oh come on Robert... - [info]achilles0200 - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:12 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Oh come on Robert... - [info]ancientoneuk - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:29 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Oh come on Robert... - [info]achilles0200 - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 02:45 pm (UTC) Expand
Was it Mossad?
[info]chesscheckers wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:46 am (UTC)
Mr. Fisk, is it possible that Mossad was actually involved in order to give Syria the bad name and drive her out of Lebanon?
Re: Was it islamic fundamentalists?
[info]exec_ceo wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 03:41 am (UTC)
chesscheckers is a mentally ill nutjob who tries to blame everything in the world on Israel
Re: Was it islamic fundamentalists? - [info]goatbucket - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 11:42 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Was it islamic fundamentalists? - [info]khillo81 - Saturday, 2 May 2009 at 09:20 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Was it islamic fundamentalists? - [info]illuminatikorp - Saturday, 2 May 2009 at 09:13 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Was it Mossad?
[info]ganef wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 09:45 am (UTC)
chesscheckers, there is more for you to worry about in Mossad-talk. I believe they have placed one of their members into the Liverpool soccer team. His mission is to ensure that Manchester United do not win the championship.

If Fisk considered there was any Mossad involvement, don't you think he might have mentioned it?
Re: Was it Mossad? - [info]chesscheckers - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 03:17 pm (UTC) Expand
Water, Israel and Lebanon
[info]richard012 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 02:08 am (UTC)
Israel has already built its 'Separation Fence' to separate the Palestinians from the best accessible parts of the West Bank's aquifer. Israel has already invaded Lebanon three times to try to reach and control the Litani river, and occupied that territory for 18 years until Hizbollah drove them out, just as they did, again, in 2006.

We know that Hariri's assassination has all the marks of a sophisticated 'hit' by someone who has a lot of experience of extra-judicial and extra-territorial hits, over a very long period (I witnessed one in Beirut, the destruction of the Palestine Research Centre, just across the street, 34 years ago),

We also know that Syria's involvement in Lebanon was not altogether benign, but a lot less malignant than Israel's. I was there to witness the beginning of both involvements.

Fisky, I admire your jorunalism, and have been reading it for at least 30 years, but I think you have a bee in your bonnet about your friend Hariri's murder, and I think it is the wrong one.
Re: Water, Israel and Lebanon
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 03:28 am (UTC)
Yes, it didn't take a genius to see that the recent incursions against Lebanon have centred around the Litiani river seemingly the only ones that think its a clever ruse are the Israeli's themselves.

But you notice how Israel goes about this, any sane nation would seek a way to diplomatically broker an agreement that would see maybe water being diverted from this river, working something out maybe with trade agreements or security agreements but this is not to be.
Re: Water, Israel and Lebanon - [info]exec_ceo - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 03:42 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Water, Israel and Lebanon - [info]goatbucket - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 11:44 am (UTC) Expand
Please - [info]fiskisadisgrace - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 03:57 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Please - [info]aline_k - Friday, 1 May 2009 at 02:28 pm (UTC) Expand
Mosad 100% - [info]samzein - Monday, 4 May 2009 at 11:02 am (UTC) Expand
Fisk and the white's man burden.
[info]benarab wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 03:52 am (UTC)
Mr Fisk, Since you are making a mockery of this decision to release the big four and attemptig to spin your way around as this decision is based on mew direction of USA and Syria, Could PLEASE share your evidence(s) of their guilt with all of us?

By the way, why is it a problem for you on how the Lebanese people would vote in the next 5 weeks? haven't you recovered from your "white's man burden"?
Typical muddled Fiskean logic
[info]achilles0200 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 07:10 am (UTC)
I don't doubt for one moment that Syria was behind the Hariri killing but proving it is quite another matter.

Fisk, as usual, in his sneering way, claims that the UN donkey has morrphed into a mule. (I fail to see the significance of the distinction). All supposedly to achieve a trade-off between Syria and the US.

Yet he concedes that there was 'insufficient evidence'. If that was the case, one assumes they would not have been convicted. At some point, then, the men must be released because without evidence they, as individuals, must be presumed to be innocent.

This is the due process of law. In the UK we have habeas corpus - one assumes that Fisk would accept that the same concept should apply internationally. (ie bring to trial or release!) That concept was certainly not upheld at Guantanamo.



Re: Typical muddled Fiskean logic
[info]goatbucket wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:43 pm (UTC)
We disagree on many things but your logic here is correct; presumption of innocence is very important, although the U.K. is no longer quite as decent as many would like when it comes to imprisonment without trial.
Re: Typical muddled Fiskean logic - [info]achilles0200 - Friday, 1 May 2009 at 06:55 am (UTC) Expand
Robert Fisk: Is this the price of America's new friendship with Syria?
[info]famulla wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 07:14 am (UTC)
Robert Fisk: Is this the price of America's new friendship with Syria?
Once more the UN donkey, clip-clopping on to the world stage after the murder of Mr Hariri, has been proved a mule. English, Robert, English. Is UN the mule or .. Remember the article about the Robert Fisk: Is this the price of America's new friendship with Syria?
Once more the UN donkey, clip-clopping on to the world stage after the murder of Mr Hariri, has been proved a mule. English, Robert, English. Is UN the mule or .. Remember the article about the A table with a man who has three legs is for sale? That.
Let me understand you. There is UN on one side, then you have an ass and then you have Saad, in Beirut, three days ago, to assure him of US support? Why, Mr Obama's Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, of course.
The answer is YES. Not that I understand why I say this, however, I am a confused as you are. Please let me know when you are ready to ride the mule.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Let me understand you. There is UN on one side, then you have an ass and then you have Saad, in Beirut, three days ago, to assure him of US support? Why, Mr Obama's Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, of course.
The answer is YES. Not that I understand why I say this, however, I am a confused as you are. Please let me know when you are ready to ride the mule.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Re: Robert Fisk: Is this the price of America's new friendship with Syria?
[info]robz53 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 07:00 pm (UTC)
famulla what in the name of common sense and reason is your point or have you been testing the old room full of monkeys and a typewriter theory??????
make it "fit"
[info]freedommonger wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 07:45 am (UTC)
What evidence does Fisk have for his assertion that the USA is somehow behind this UN action, an action that he admits is correct in law?

I can see none. Just the usual Fisk.

When you want to see a witch you can see them everywhere. Righteous indignation in the observer always "illuminates" them and the internet "confirms" your view (and any view of course, any view at all)

Making yourself bludgeon every event into the same prism of a single political view regardless of the facts, or lack of them, is..... yes, bigotry

Robert Fisk, eloquent, refined, inciter of division, namer of witches, merchant of death

p.s. UK troops today leave 27 million emancipated Iraqis behind them. 27 million peoiple emancipated despite Fisk and in spite of Fisks constant opposition to every stage of their liberation. He recited the narratives that insurgents build their hate upon (not least cretinous oil theories that the $13000 bn a year GDP US went to steal $45 bn a year of Iraqi oil). Merchant of death.
Re: make it "fit"
[info]goatbucket wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:05 pm (UTC)
27 million emancipated Iraqis? Are you including more than a million who have died in the last six years thanks to the invasion, and the four million or so who have left their country of origin due to the violence? If so, your definition of emancipated might be somewhat different to anyone who actually knows what the word means.

Or are they just unpeople, to be swept under the carpet while you're cheerleading for a nation whose activities you either don't understand or are merely lying for?

Is the market value of oil is equivalent to the strategic value of having control of the oil supply? Of course not.

And it's very interesting that you define Fisk as a merchant of death when you support an invasion that has cost well over a million lives so far...
Re: make it "fit" - [info]freedommonger - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 02:01 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: make it "fit" - [info]goatbucket - Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: make it "fit" - [info]robz53 - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 07:09 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: make it "fit" - [info]freedommonger - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 08:32 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: make it "fit" - [info]goatbucket - Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:30 pm (UTC) Expand
It's sad to see Fisk's credibility withering away like this
[info]findempire wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 07:52 am (UTC)
Robert Fisk has turned into a defender of the Hariri-Siniora gang of US sockpuppets who destroyed the evidence and bribed witnesses in order to frame Syria and ensure the continued oppression and exclusion from power of the largest ethnic group in Lebanon, the Shiites. This gang of thieving robber barons and warlords watched impassively as Israel ravaged Lebanon last year and didn't lift a finger to succor the country's mostly Shiite south that bore the main brunt of Israel's destruction of infrastructure and cluster-bombing of civilians.

The arrest and 4-year detention without trial of these generals shows the Hariri assassination for what it really is: a coup by the US-backed Sunni, Phalangist, and Druze oligarch/warlords masquerading as "Lebanese patriots" (the kind that don't bat an eyelid when their country is invaded by Israel). They used the assassination to purge the military leadership and seize power just as the US & UK used 9/11 and 7/7 to install police states. The Hariri assassination was Lebanon's Reichstag fire.

So does that make it patricide? Did Hariri Jr. have a finger in it? It wouldn't be the first time in Lebanese politics.
Re: It's sad to see Fisk's credibility withering away like this
[info]fiskisadisgrace wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 05:31 pm (UTC)

Doesn't Syria have enough fingerprints on Lebanese power centers? Isn't Hizbollah strickly Syrian/Iranian backed?

The Christians (Phalangists, as you respectively call them...) have had the lower hand since the early 80's, and every government since has been a Shiite Syrian puppet. That is a painful truth for every moderate in the area, not just Lebanese.

Did you forget the massive protests to kick Syria out of the country? Hariri Jr kiling his own father and acting furious afterwards with amazing bravado does'nt make a whole lot of sense...

Barron
[info]barronesq wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 08:54 am (UTC)
ancientoneuk,you stated here that the isreali kills children and Pregnant Woman,well let me ask you,If some attacks you from a school were student is filled and then attacks you from block of flats filled with innocent woman and children with out them runing off,knowing that you will attack back on the location were you were attacked from,tell me ancientoneuk what will you do?
Re: Barron
[info]johnsmith007 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 09:18 am (UTC)
You logic has no logic.
So if a killer escapes into a school / hospital / anyhere we are right in bombing it to the ground.
That is only Israeli logic.
Re: Barron - [info]fiskisadisgrace - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 04:16 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Barron - [info]goatbucket - Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:34 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Barron - [info]goatbucket - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 11:56 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Barron - [info]exec_md - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 10:11 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Barron - [info]exec_md - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 10:15 pm (UTC) Expand
Evidence
[info]philipshahak wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 11:36 am (UTC)
Robert, they were probably released due to a lack of evidence.
As ancientoneuk and others point out, if you look at the modus operandi and past record, the assassination points to the masters of assassination...Israel's the Mossad.
Re: Evidence
[info]achilles0200 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:15 pm (UTC)
"Robert, they were probably released due to a lack of evidence.
As ancientoneuk and others point out, if you look at the modus operandi and past record, the assassination points to the masters of assassination...Israel's the Mossad."

Then again the Syrians might be hoping you would come to that conclusion. All you are left with is the conviction of your own prejudices!
Anand
[info]huuduga wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 12:56 pm (UTC)
In this hatred of each other no one considered the simple message was it suicide?? or was he setting up a bomb?
Who? Why? What? Where? When? Why a bomb? Suicide
[info]famulla wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 05:47 pm (UTC)
In this hatred of each other no one considered the simple message was it suicide?? or was he setting up a bomb?
I am confused as Bob is.Still not clear if the mule is away.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
So who killed Rafiq Hariri? Saad shoud see this..
[info]fakhry wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 06:09 pm (UTC)
The four people were released to say to Syria,USA can change the game like chess game,prolong the game for few years.
USA can corner the King at any time;Israel the one who killing Rafiq Harriri;the one who is strong ,the one who can play with any one.
politics is the art of lies, to keep lying without been caught;surprises come one day if Israel & Syria did not play the game as planed to be..!
Hariri son ,Saad is one Stone moved by USA/Israel as required by the game.
USA is Using Rafiq blood as needed.
Disgusting..
When Hariri Son can see that ?
USA do not care about Rafiq or this son,they care for themselves.
Politics is like the Areal of the T.V,move it as required.
Will Truth Prevail
[info]stickytruth2 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 06:43 pm (UTC)
Where world problems arise, you bet the Americans are in the background, plus those who pull the strings of power. Just as the mystery of PA 103, which might come to light some day.
Robert is going native
[info]phconnell wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 06:53 pm (UTC)
Dear Robert,

Your flurry of outrage and innuendo - you should see your face during interviews on Al Jazeera sometimes - gives the impression you have become part of Middle Eastern culture.

You choose the tribes or families you are loyal to - vilify other tribes and families with the flimsiest of evidence and associations - as if it is all common knowledge that we should all believe purely on face value and your unshakable belief in your opinions.

You have gone quite native Robert. Its a pity as your opinions seemed quite interesting some years ago - but you seemed to have the "madness of righteousness" that media ilk inevitably drown in.
damascus
[info]khaledkaboul wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 10:57 pm (UTC)
People in glass houses should not throw stones , ‎
How disappointing!!
[info]nickshel81 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 02:42 am (UTC)
Mr. Fisk, I am so disappointed in this one! I usually can't wait for one of your articles every couple of weeks to read an objective non biased perspective on Lebanese politics. I am not a supporter of either sides in that conflict because you and I know how in each there exist war criminals and politicians who's hands are dipped in the blood of the lebanese people (e.g. Berri and JaaJaa). I was however disappointed with the way your article sides with the hariri government (who as you always preach to remember history, got its majority with it's 4-party-alliance with hizbolla and amal especially in the mountain of lebanon and then turned its back to them after weeks of the end of elections). Letting these generals and officers out of prison, as yourself confessed, was the right step to do in order to pave the way to the truth behind that horrific murder. again as you always preach about history, those same 4 generals were in their positions during Hariri's sr. REIGN in Lebanon since the end of the civil war. if hariri sr. was that shining bright light angel sent from heaven to save lebanon as the hariri gov portrays him to be i don't think he would have continued his reign and rule of lebanon solely during the syrian occupation of lebanon. as you remember from history his own Taef agreement allowed the syrians to stay in lebanon indefinitely. NOW back to the claim that this was the price for america's new friendship with syria you are absolutely wrong on this one! what has syria gained since hariri's death? especially (or should i say surprisingly) his death during the BUSH ERA! absolutely nothing. it amazes me to see you and other western journalists that turn a blind eye to the real beneficiary of such an assasination. the ones that invade, kill, murder, occupy, besiege and commit horrible acts of terrorism in front of the world with no regret what so ever, who also continue to dismiss and not even consider the Hariri's OWN arab countries peace agreement of 2004. its weired how hariri's death has opened the doors for israel and the ex-terrorist-us administration to do whatever they wanted in the region and claim who is guilty and who is not. Another thing Mr. Fisk that you fail to consider or even mention in your article is how did these four generals get arrested. Don't you remember Hisam Hisam and The King witness, according to hariri jr, who confessed that they worked with those four generals to plot the assasination and few months afterwards they ran and confessed that their claim was all wrong and that they were forced to say that by Mr hariri and Mr marwan hmada? how can u forget history Sir? how come france, the passionate mother as the phalangist call her, let go of that king witness and let him loose when they captured him untill they finally catch him, surprisingly, in the gulf playing around and living life with gulfy money who support Mr. hariri's gov? what about that Mr. Fisk?
Very disappointing Sir very very disappointing!
Btw I can't wait for your next article. maybe by then you might have went through your dusty history archive before writing an article.
Re: How disappointing!!
[info]smoothop8388 wrote:
Sunday, 10 May 2009 at 11:02 am (UTC)
You know, exactly my thoughts; although i don't agree with Fisk's opinions all the time, I always thought he was objective and can see through charade of politics; however, when it comes to Hariri's assassination, he's blind to a degree that's questionable.

1- Yes, Syrians aren't saints, the same goes for the Americans and Israelis.

2- Yes, the Generals held a tight grip on lebanon, but that doesn't make them murderers.

3- What about the false testimonies and joker witnesses?

4- What about the anti-explosion alarm devise Hariri had?

5- What about the tens of Israeli intelligence webs in lebanon, with some going back to the 80s and 70s?

6- What about Mellis' silly approach to criminal investigation?

7- What about the information and the findings provided by German investigator Jürgen Cain Külbel, and French journalist Thierry Meyssan, and recently American journalist Wayne Madison?

8- What about the aftermath of Hariri's assassination and the un-preselected endorsement of 14th March movement fueled by an assassination every now and then?

9- What about the Fateh Al Islam, and Saymour Hersh's "Redirection"?

10- What happened to the popularity of Hezbollah after Hariri's death, especially among Sunnis, where an unbelievable propaganda machine spread through middle eastern channels? What happened in 2006, do you think Hariri sr. would've stood against the resistance, the way most of 14th march stood? Have you heard of the ?new middle east? that was supposed to come out of the Lebanese womb declared bluntly by Secretary Rice? Do you think there would be such turbulence and turmoil in lebanon for the past 4 years, most of it against Syrian interests, where an anti-Syrian criminal and murderer of a former Lebanese prime minister would get out of jail, and become the serpent of march 14th?

There are tons and tons more clues, but Robert, have you heard about any of these? I?m sure you have, but how come, there isn?t the slightest mention in your articles!!
who killed Hariri?
[info]z0uz wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 08:51 pm (UTC)
Dear Robert , you asked who killed Hariri, i will tell you the one who praised the 4 generals on the 30th and again this evening is the one who killed the Prime minister Hariri. if you still remember who was next to jamil el sayed when he was speeching, and who was next to Ali Haj in his house and asked Ali's wife to shutup in her own house, if you see all this, no need to wonder who killed Prime minister Hariri.
Re: who killed Hariri?
[info]smoothop8388 wrote:
Sunday, 10 May 2009 at 10:22 am (UTC)
wow, who taught you anything? are you that blind???

they were the biggest losers, you looser!!

Horrible, unprofessional and complete non-sense
[info]falta7ya wrote:
Monday, 11 May 2009 at 10:36 am (UTC)
Robert, you must have been either drunk or in a hurry when you wrote this.

Re: Horrible, unprofessional and complete non-sense
[info]smoothop8388 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 12:14 pm (UTC)
hehe, I wish, but that has always been his position, n' it's hard for him to back off now after 4 years, its the only area where I find his articles unprofessional; maybe the fact that late Hariri was a friend of his, which gives this subject a personal touch. The whole investigation has been a joke so far, and it is back to ground zero now, waiting for another patsy.

Anyway, I think the Americans replied to him when they spoke harshly against the syrians n' renewed the sanctions on Syria a few days later.
Small correction...
[info]ritahanna wrote:
Saturday, 23 May 2009 at 05:05 pm (UTC)
The "weird Christian ex-General's party" comprises more than a majority of the educated Lebanese christians (and other muslims and druze)... Maybe you should reconsider the word "weird"...

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