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Robert Fisk: Posturing and laughter as victims rot

Mahmoud Abbas stepped further into humiliation by saying the only option for Arabs isto make peace with Israel

The front page of the Beirut daily As-Safir said it all yesterday. Across the top was a terrible photograph of the bloated body of a Palestinian man newly discovered in the ruins of his home while two male members of his family shrieked and roared their grief. Below, at half the size, was a photograph from Israel of Western leaders joking with Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister. Olmert was roaring with laughter. Silvio Berlusconi, arms on the back of Olmert's shoulders, was also joshing and roaring – with laughter, not grief – and on Olmert's right was Nicolas Sarkozy of France wearing his stupidest of smiles. Only Chancellor Merkel appeared to understand the moral collapse. No smiles from Germany.

Europe laughs while Palestinians mourn their dead. No wonder that in the streets of Beirut, shops were doing a flourishing trade in Palestinian scarves and flags. Even some of Palestine's most serious enemies in Lebanon wore the Palestinian keffiyeh in solidarity with the people of Gaza. Over and over again, Al-Jazeera television strapped headlines on to their news reports of Palestinians carrying the decomposing corpses of their dead: "More than 1,300 dead in Gaza, 400 of them women and children – Israeli dead in the war 13, three of them civilians." That, too, said it all.

All day, the Arabs also had to endure watching their own leaders primping and posing in front of the cameras at the Arab summit in Kuwait, where the kings and presidents who claim to rule them also smiled and shook hands and tried to pretend that they were unified behind a Palestinian people who have been sorely betrayed. Even Mahmoud Abbas was there, the powerless, impotent leader of "Palestine" – where is that precisely, one had to ask? – trying to suck some importance from the coat-tails and robes of his betters.

Slipping and sliding on the corpses of Gaza, these assembled supreme beings should perhaps be pitied. What else could they do? Saudi King Abdullah announced £750,000 to rebuild Gaza; but how many times have the Arabs and the Europeans been throwing money at Gaza only to see it torn to shreds by incoming shell-fire?

It has to be said that the two cowled Hamas gunmen who announced that they had won a "victory" in the ruins of Gaza were only fractionally less hypocritical. Still they had not understood that they were not the Hizbollah of Lebanon. Gaza was no longer Beirut. Now, it seemed, Gaza was Stalingrad. But whose uniforms did Hamas think they were wearing: German or Soviet?

"Israel has to understand," the good king said – as if the Israelis were listening – "that the choice between war and peace will not always stay open and that the Arab initiative (for Arab recognition in return for an Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 borders of Israel) that is on the table today will not stay on the table." He knew that "an eye for an eye ... did not say an eye for the eyes of a whole city". But how many times – how many bodies have to be pulled from the ruins – before the Saudis realise that time has run out?

The Israelis briskly dismissed land for peace in 2002 but yesterday they suddenly showed their interest again. "We continue to be willing to negotiate with all our neighbours on the basis of that initiative," the Israeli government spokesmen said – as if his own country's original rejection had never been thrown at the Arabs.

President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, of course, dismissed the whole initiative in Qatar last week as dead, insisting that Israel be declared a "terrorist entity". But Mahmoud Abbas stepped further into humiliation yesterday by announcing that the "only option" for Arabs was to make peace with Israel. It was Arab "shortcomings" that led to the failure of the 2002 Arab initiative. Not Israel's rejection, mark you. No, it was all the fault of the Arabs. And this from the leader of "Palestine".

No wonder America's man in Egypt – a certain Hosni Mubarak – repeated the tired old slogan that "peace in the Middle East is an imperative that cannot be delayed". And then the Emir of Kuwait invited Bashar and Hosni and King Abdullah of Jordan and the other King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia to have lunch together – the menu was not disclosed – to end their feuding.

Al-Jazeera showed the ever-more putrid bodies being tugged from beneath cross-beams and crushed concrete as these mighty potentates debated their little disputes. There was really no adequate comment for this charade.

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All Because of Cowardice
[info]movinon09 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 01:03 am (UTC)
Cowardice and courage are such melodramatic words. Having courage doesn't mean you have to battle dragons. Most of the time, it's just not making cowardly decisions. Every day, every one of us is presented with choices. Our decisions in picking one are sometimes courageous, and sometimes cowardly. And I bet every one of us, minus the few sociopaths (and in my opinion Zionists) here and there, know exactly what kind of decision we made.

When it comes to Israel, the majority of those with any semblance of power to make any difference, make cowardly decisions. Arab leaders gather and bicker over tea and baklava, and write poetic resolutions to hold more meetings. American and European politicians use empty words that leave you pondering them, because they have been made to believe, wrongly, that the omnipotent Zionists can decide their fate come next election.

The average person turns and looks the other way, or at best makes a mockery of him or herself by diluting what should be a strong message about the injustices they are witnessing.

Journalists, a whole heck of a lot of them especially out here in the US, tow the line by writing pro-Israel drivel, because they believe their readers are stupid, and because they are afraid of loosing their jobs if they are critical of Israel in any shape or form.

But every once in a while, some deep rooted value forces us to make the right choice. It's tough, be we feel good about it. And guess what, everyone recognizes our courage, is impressed by it, envious of it, and threatened by it. Some people are a lot more comfortable with making the right choice more frequently. What was it Robert Frost said about making decisions? Something like "and that has made all the difference."

Thank god the Palestinians still have a few brave souls speaking for them and making a big difference. Thank you Mr. Fisk for having the courage to be one of them.
Re: All Because of Cowardice
[info]rizzmeyster wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 04:53 pm (UTC)
Right on movinon09. Right on point right on message!
Peace with Israel
[info]mikis25 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 01:15 am (UTC)
So what's so strange about Mahmous Abbas' proposal that Arabs and Israels live together in peace. Does Mr Fisk prefer the alternative?
Re: Peace with Israel
[info]ejh16 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:01 am (UTC)
You have missed the point. Of course Mr Fisk wants peace. But it is all up to Israel. Abbas and the Palestinians have no power. When Israeli and American leaders decide that it is their best interest to make peace, there will be peace.

http://theunpeople.blogspot.com/
Re: Peace with Israel - [info]mrre1 - Wednesday, 21 January 2009 at 03:22 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Peace with Israel - [info]john_aliano - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 06:12 pm (UTC) Expand
Posturing and laughter as victims rot
[info]driesvanacht wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 02:01 am (UTC)

For any loving parent it must be hard to imagine the fear, grief, and anger that one feels when your children are murdered, home is destroyed, society is demolished. The fact alone that the people in gaza for years have had to smuggle in their food through illegal tunnels in order to stay alive is unimaginable.

Now everything is destroyed, everyone lost loved ones, and hamas is still firing rockets.

I do not believe the jews did not realize this would be the case. In other words: this was another attempt to destroy an entire people.

One consolation is that the people of the world will not forget this; the jews have finally emerged in the open as the racist, murderous barbarians that they have been for too long.

It makes me wonder whether our forefathers had already figured this out..

Re: Posturing and laughter as victims rot
[info]shalomonearth wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:26 am (UTC)
Your forefathers: If Jews are so horrible why did your forefathers choose, among all nations, from thousands of religions (every tribe, every family had their own two thousand years ago) - why have they elected as their saviour that Jew, Yeoshua (Jesus)?
Re: Posturing and laughter as victims rot - [info]llop - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 09:31 am (UTC) Expand
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Re: Posturing and laughter as victims rot - [info]laconico - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 10:11 am (UTC) Expand
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From Beirut
[info]shalomonearth wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 02:03 am (UTC)
Mr. Fisk, and "independent" reporter based in the Arab world - what a joke. There is no free press in that part of the world and we all know what happens to people who criticize the "president" (dictator - he was not elected) of Syria, or muslim jihadist terrorist organization Hezbolah.
Re: From Beirut
[info]llop wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
Look who is talking!!

There is no free press in Israel. The fact that during this criminal invasion, journalist were not allowed is quite compelling. What do you have to hide?

I guess the truth hurts

Re: From Beirut - [info]ajiko - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 12:32 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: From Beirut - [info]justice2009 - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 12:41 pm (UTC) Expand
Changes are coming to Arab world "middle east"
[info]ynabil wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 02:36 am (UTC)
What happened in this war, will be followed by big changes in the Arab world. For me, the aggression and terrorism of Israel lead Palestinians to a very strong resistence. Please see this video:

http://vodpod.com/watch/1249063-landscapes-of-occupation-in-palestine
Re: Changes are coming to Arab world "middle east"
[info]shalomonearth wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:31 am (UTC)
Big changes in the Arab world? About time. Hope so. Does that mean the end of Arabs killing each other (Somalia, Lebanon, Iraq, etc.), killing the "infidels" (Sudan - 300,000 black Christians killed so far), killing their own daughters and sisters for reasons of "honour"? The end of bloody dictatorships (Syria, Lybia, etc.) or medieval feudal kingdoms (Saudi Arabia and others). End of terrorism? I pray for big changes in the Arab world too. Hope the Arab world (22 countries) will stop blaming Israel for their faults and enter the 21st century. You have enough land (from the Atlantic - Morocco - to the Gulf - Iraq) and money from oil.
Re: Changes are coming to Arab world "middle east" - [info]olelars - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 08:59 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Changes are coming to Arab world "middle east" - [info]paki_galaxy - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 10:02 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Changes are coming to Arab world "middle east" - [info]justice2009 - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 12:34 pm (UTC) Expand
What To Do Here
[info]soho44 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 02:41 am (UTC)
Cut off military aid to Israel to force them to negotiate with Hamas.
The One and Only God
[info]kweliyangu wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:32 am (UTC)
There no God but Israel and America is His Prophet. God gives and punishes whomever He pleases. He giveth life and thaketh life. We are now in dire need for a modern scripture that reflects this reality. Let us all pray facing Jerusalem and Washington, DC, amen. Let us submit to this new divine partnership of pure good, liberty and justice. A partnership that rewards you with Heaven and Hell right here, right now.
[info]shalomonearth wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:34 am (UTC)
To all Arab and muslim readers: Please refrain from attacking Israel. You kill more Arabs and muslims than Israel. To all British readers attacking Israel (for defending itself): Allow me to remind you that your country invaded, 8 years ago, muslim Afghanistan and Iraq, countries that never fired even one rocket on you. You have killed so far (with the help of other western nations) half a million people in those eight years.
Re: shalomonearth
[info]najwan wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 10:09 am (UTC)
You disgust me making israel as the victim whose looking to defend itself, from whom? is it from the Childrens, poor women, the men who support thier families, from the old people, is it from the press or the charity institutions, is it from the security men, or from the dead people!!!

Israel wanted to fight hamas, for defending the poor Palestinians who have no one by thier side except a cheater & vile leaders of arab. Israel simply repeating the holocaust.

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2009/01/19/israel-repeats-holocaust/

Invalid video URL.

shalomenearth - [info]neilc78 - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 05:53 pm (UTC) Expand
Not the first time...
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:35 am (UTC)
Last year I was appalled to see Gordon Brown laughing and joking, smirking and having a good time in the King David's Hotel, before him quite a few piccies too of El Tone certainly forgetting so many British people were killed outrageously by Israeli terrorism, shaking the hands of many who belonged to these gangs, to me I find it a reviling act that these British soldiers and the civilians killed by the Zionist terrorists are forgotten, swept under the carpet... Outrageous.

There is a chink of light here and that is prevention, through nailing key criminals up in the International Criminal Courts for war crimes, certainly a life imprisonment will deter possibly more atrocity but it needs men and women of courage not cowardice to force the indictments into action, follow the chain, the suppliers and nail them too, whether they are Russian suppliers, American or British, the governments too knowingly allowing transit of such weapons is also a war crime and it was the suggestion of such that forced the US to abandon its rearmament ship sailing from Greece because they were told point blank that to allow it would indicate complicity in such a crime and suddenly the US got cold feet.

But also these brave men and women can act here in the UK, by petitioning their MP's to back away from Israeli support indicating that any such support will not only cost them YOUR vote but also you will use your influence to ensure that all your neighbours, family and friends drop their vote for that MP too, if a movement got together and worked together as a national framework it is likely that Israeli support outside of Cabinet and corporate level will wither away...

Yet it takes people of vision, the Gazan's are unable to help themselves or defend themselves either from its vantage point in its Kz camp, it is up to decent people, for human beings to act then on their behalf.
Arab Leaders & Israel
[info]chesscheckers wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:46 am (UTC)
The pompous and stupid Arab leaders must realize that Israel has no intention of ever leaving the West Bank and Gaza. Their aim is to drive the Palestinians out of Palestine.

Before blaming the Arabs and asking them to recognize Israel, Mahmoud Abbas should ask the Israelis to define their border first. He will be shocked to see the map of Israel according to the Israelis. What a jellyfish!

Regarding the Europeans laughing, one should not be surprised because they consider killing of non-Europeans as a sport just like the Romans did to the early Christians. They have no morals whatsoever. Silvio Berlusconi is a thug just like a mob boss and Sarkozy has always been an agent of Israel and worked for the Israelis.

Thanks to the modern technology the world sees Israel's blatant aggression and atrocities live. Soon, majority of the world will no longer accept the Israelis many excuses such bas Holocaust, God's Chosen People, God gave them the land, etc. to justify their cold-blood murder of innocent people. I wonder for how long the arrogant Israelis with the support of Western leaders will carry on their atrocities before they are stopped once and for all.
Re: Arab Leaders & Israel
[info]shalomonearth wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 04:14 am (UTC)
Chesschekers: If you are an European, a British citizen (are you?) it is not so difficult: Vote for the leaders who will side with the muslims jihadists terrorists instead of Israel. Isn't Britain a democracy?
Borders: Arabs never respected them and have sistematically attacked Israel. Arabs have enough land, from the Atlantic (Morocco) to the Gulf (Iraq), 22 countries in all.
"Chosen people": By men, by Christians and Muslims. Why have you chosen a Jew to be your saviour? There are thousands of peoples and religions in this world. Don't choose one of us - we are horrible. Muslims: Why have Mohamed chosen Judaism and Christianism (a form of Judaism in the beggining) to copy when he invented this new religion, 1500 years after Judaism and 700 years after Jew Jesus? Strange people. Choose us and hate us. Jew Dr. Freud could have explained it, maybe.
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Re: Arab Leaders & Israel - [info]wannabeneutral - Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 12:48 pm (UTC) Expand
Rebuilding Gaza
[info]jw765 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:57 am (UTC)
Perhaps the US should take the leading role in rebuilding the destroyed cities as a first step to show a particle of fairness in the affaire.

The money could come out of the yearly tribute to its Israeli overlords. Which is actually borrowed from China.

"President"
[info]shalomonearth wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 04:26 am (UTC)
Mr. Fisk this "President of Syria" you mention is nothing but a bloody dictator. A "President" that was never elected, that inherited the country like a private property from his father. He will be president for life like many other Arab "presidents" by killing or sending to prision his opponents.
[info]bandraboy wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 04:28 am (UTC)
Oh well, thems the breaks, eh?

When will the Palestinians learn? Stop attacking Israel and Israel will not attack you. Keep attacking Israel and, well, you will keep losing.
[info]llop wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 09:53 am (UTC)
If you stop the invasion and go back to the 1967 borders then iit will stop.

If Palestinians then attack you (even though the rest of the land has been taken away from them , as well) then you can complaint.

While you occupy their land and stop them from creating a viable economy you cannot complaint. These are the things that happen when you invade a land.

And by the way, it was Isarel (as usual) that broke the truce. Once again, you can't kill Hamas militants and expect nothing in return... you know this very well and you use in Palestine, Lebanon and through the region to 'impose' your will
[info]saraal65 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 04:55 am (UTC)
Europe has ignored the plight of Palestinians at the hands of the Israelis for over 60 years, and indeed the EU has increased its trade links with that terrorist state, which ' shouts' democracy but practises racism, land theft, brutality at every opportunity.

Why should anyone be surprised that the EU leaders were laughing with Olmert? it's an all European- Zionist club..absolutely obscene..
Israel Crimes...
[info]earth101 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 05:34 am (UTC)
Watch UK MP SIR Gerald Kaufman exposes Israel's Crimes (google qMGuYjt6CP8)

Watch US Professor Norman Finkelstein exposes Israel's Crimes (Google bm5OvSeiAHc)

Israel admits: "No Hamas rockets were fired during ceasefire" (Google uOaLU0wfqdI)

Please distribute and contact your Senator and/or Representative. Peace!
Peace with Israel
[info]johnarno wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 05:35 am (UTC)
Israel does not want peace it wants PIECE - another big piece of Palestinian land. - John, Thailand.
The original wrong
[info]phowa wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 05:49 am (UTC)
Nothing will be resolved until the original wrong is admitted and redressed. Israel, like the US, Canada, Australia and NZ was established through the violent dispossession of the original people. Unlike those other historically recent colonisers Israel has not given her indigenous people full rights as citizens, nor their own State, and has instead, like South Africa, kept them imprisoned and subjugated in concentration camps and bantustans while Israel continues to dispossess and colonise.
Re: The original wrong
[info]falanf wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 09:03 am (UTC)
The lands which are now occupied by Muslim/Arabs were taken from the original inhabitants also. Ask the Copts, the Berbers and the original inhabitants of Palestine who, of course, were not Muslim. And it nearly happened in Portugal too; and a Muslim army was defeated in France in the 8th Century - what were they doing there if not bent on conquest? Please try to remember that Islam was invented in Arabia and spread out from there; and is no better or worse than the other colonising movements in history.
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Re: The original wrong - [info]proudkwi - Wednesday, 21 January 2009 at 10:29 pm (UTC) Expand
The world has had enough
[info]ruthriegler wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 05:55 am (UTC)
Another excellent and incisive article. Thank you Mr Fisk for continuing to speak out against a grotesque 60-year injustice and against Western and Arab leaders' cowardice and hypocrisy that shames us all. The odious racist supremacism expressed against Palestinians and all Arabs by pro-Israel posters is no better than or morally superior to the loathsome Judaeophobic sentiments expressed by driesvanacht and reminds me of PW Botha's "The white people who came here lived at a very much higher standard than the indigenous peoples, and with a very rich tradition which they brought with them from Europe." (Botha also acknowledged that Israel was an apartheid state, although Israel and its supporters would rather gloss over this).
The hateful colonialist supremacist regime in South Africa fell, however, and so eventually will this one. The world has seen Israel for what it is and though our leaders may want to carry on the pretence that it's just dandy to ethnically cleanse, dispossess, exile or imprison an indigenous people, subject them to a two-tier system in which they lose all their rights, land and homes to an incoming population, terrorize, humiliate and casually kill them, build walls around them and make them use checkpoints - and call them terrorists for fighting back - no decent human being will support this any longer. I hope that Palestine's Mandella arrives soon, the world has had enough of Israel being held to different standards to the rest of humanity.
There has been a change
[info]phowa wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 05:57 am (UTC)
There has been a change. More and more people now know the truth of the Palestinian's suffering. Boycotts will bring Israel to the table as they did with South Africa.
The dark visiion of Mr. Fisk
[info]mrre1 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 06:14 am (UTC)
Mr. Fisk feels that making peace with Israel is "humiliation" for the Arabs. That sounds pretty sick to me. Am I to assume that Mr. Fisk thinks that it's the duty of the non-Europeans to entertain him with perpetual death and destruction?

"It has to be said" Really? Why?
[info]rowan_berkeley wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 06:23 am (UTC)
"It has to be said that the two cowled Hamas gunmen who announced that they had won a "victory" in the ruins of Gaza were only fractionally less hypocritical. Still they had not understood that they were not the Hizbollah of Lebanon. Gaza was no longer Beirut. Now, it seemed, Gaza was Stalingrad. But whose uniforms did Hamas think they were wearing: German or Soviet?"

This is just forelock-tugging for the Israeli embassy press watchdogs. Also, it is complete gibberish, putting outdated and irrelevant european ww2 comparisons into the mouths of the apocryphal "Hamas gunmen" (as in "Mafia gunmen", thank you).
The Arabs and their Choices
[info]givati123 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 06:25 am (UTC)
I am no fan of Fisk,his agenda is clear for all to see ,however his comments this time were most valid.

The Leaders of Arab world are guilty of total indifference and their only common interest is their capability to continue their lives in untold luxury and at the same time doing all they can with ever increasingly inane efforts to do nothing that would in anyway tilt the balance of power one way or the other.

With regards to Gaza,it is self apparent that Hamas bit off far more than they could chew and by the same measure it is clear the IDF were intent on restoring their deterent factor which they have done most effectively as there are no Arabs who wish to see their capitals turned to dust bowls and this includes Hezbollah.

Europe and the USA have both enjoyed the spectacle of a humbled Hamas and even better an Iran with its tactics now in the dirt with their valiant and vain efforts to make Hamas into an Hezbollah.

Israel fought a good war,it went to war to win,it showed that it has a highly motivated fighting force who were determined to redress the war of 2006,I will guess that this conflict will not be lost on Iran and Hezbollah who will realise that for every action that they may take there will be an even nastier reaction.

Shalom

BM
Israel fought a good war
[info]mehdi1234 wrote:
Saturday, 24 January 2009 at 02:23 am (UTC)
that's right, it's easy to pick on the weak to make yourselves feel good about yourselves...

Israelie army (or IDF as they so cowardly hide it behind an ackronym) lost the 2006 war against a small militia... so to feel strong again they went and slaughtered defensless people of Gaza, or as you refer to it "Fought a good war"

shame on you and anyone who calls slaughter of defensless people a "win"
Ruthreigler
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 06:29 am (UTC)
said it all
Contradict
[info]johnah9 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 06:44 am (UTC)
A well written, and scathing attack, with very succinct observations on a desperate situation.

I do hope Mr. R Fisk doesn't go on to ridicule his critique by writing a book, or two, on this latest debacle.

Oh, hold it, what's that I smell? I've got it, it's freshly sharpened pencils.

John Ahearne. Dubai, UAE.
Re: Contradict
[info]kjackson76 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 03:39 pm (UTC)
Why shouldn't Mr Fisk write a book (or two)? He's qualified to do so, having spent most of his life reporting from war zones. Do you really think that it's money that motivates him?
Hamas won
[info]phowa wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 06:50 am (UTC)
The Israelis may not yet appreciate how substantial was the Hamas victory but others in the world do. Here we have a poorly armed resistance movement which held out against the massive military might of its occupier. Hamas are heroes, not just to the Palestinians and Arabs but to the world in general. They stand alongside the Russians who defended Stalingrad against the German occupation army and the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto who defended their families with primitive arms against the massive military might of the Nazis. Hamas continued to fire rockets, Hamas lost some of its resistance fighters but a comparative few, the tunnels were not destroyed. Israel achieved nothing. Except of course the one thing it did not expect.... a greater knowledge in the world at large of the brutality of its State sanctioned terror. In preventing the world's media from seeing the war crimes inflicted on the people of Gaza the Israelis created a situation where, in a world of mobile phones and the internet, images of the death and destruction inflicted on Palestinians, particularly children, were sent around the world. Israel is now seen by more people for the rogue state that it is and more people now know that Gaza is a concentration camp and the Israelis are one of the (if not the) most brutal occupiers and colonisers in modern history. The Big Lie has been revealed: Israel the occupier and coloniser is not the victim but the aggressor.
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