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Hamish McRae: The G8 countries may run the old world economy. But it's the new one that matters

Wednesday, 9 July 2008

Why should we care about the G8 and what they say about the future of the world economy, carbon emissions and all the other stuff that is emerging from their summit meeting in Hokkaido?

So they are the world's eight largest economies and that must matter? Well, no. There was a time when the Group of Seven as it then was, did indeed represent the world's largest economies – Russia was later co-opted into the club as a reward for dumping Communism – but not any more.

For the G8 represents the old economic powers, not the new ones. If you are worrying about the scale of the forthcoming global downturn, what China does is as important as what the United States or the European Union does, for China is adding more demand to the world than either the US and Europe.

If you are worried about the price of oil, what matters is the capacity of the Middle East to produce more of it, and the additional demand from China and India. If you are worried about carbon emissions in 2050, well, what the present G8 pledges or does not pledge is only marginally relevant to what happens. In the world economy, the times they are a-changin'.

To try and get a handle on this I have been looking at the latest numbers from Goldman Sachs. Jim O'Neill, the chief economist at Goldman, coined the acronym "BRICs" to describe the four largest emerging economies – Brazil, Russia, India and China – and he and his team built an econometric model to try to project how these countries might grow vis-à-vis the G7 over the next half-century.

A model is only a model but so far at least the BRICs have been gaining ground on the G7 even faster than the model predicted, so if anything it understates the shift of power that is taking place. The pecking order last year in the size of the economies ran: US, Japan, Germany, China, UK, France, Italy and Spain. So Canada and Russia ought not to be in the club, and China most certainty and arguably Spain should. But Canada and Russia are huge energy producers so the really important missing member is China.

But fast-forward to 2050, and the world order looks utterly different. According to the Goldman model the top eight will be: China, US, India, Brazil, Russia, Indonesia, Mexico and the UK in that order. Yes, no Japan, no Germany, no France. The UK still would squeak into this new G8 club because we would have become the largest Western European economy, but obviously our relative position in the world would have slipped a lot.

The US would still matter a great deal as the world's second largest economy but also because of its technical and educational competence. It would tie with the UK as the world's richest country in terms of GDP per head. But of course power would have shifted not only to the BRICs, but also to what Goldman has dubbed the "next 11", a next tier of emerging economies led by Indonesia and Mexico, and with Turkey, the Gulf states and Nigeria cracking along too.

Anyone in the West faced with such data will have a number of reactions. One is disbelief: that this cannot be right. Surely the social and environmental pressures on China and India will restrict their growth? Surely the demographic difficulties of Russia – its falling population – will hold it back? And what about the chaos that Indonesia has recently experienced? And could Turkey (as well as the UK) really become a larger economy that Germany? Huh?

My response to that would be that the Goldman model will not be right as to detail and there may be some great economic or environmental catastrophe that will render all economic predictions worthless. Certainly any prediction of the world more than 40 years on has to be has to be taken with the appropriate quantity of salt. But short of such a catastrophe, this sort of new world order is a plausible outline of what might happen.

That leads to another type of response, one of fear. It will be very tough for the US to accept that it is no longer top dog, and that will give rise to all sorts of efforts to try to restrict China's progress. Within Europe there will be rising pressures to use protectionism to try to maintain its share of world output, or at least delay the decline. You can see a lot of this already in both the US and parts of Continental Europe.

Here in the UK there is an acceptance that we can and should try and benefit from the shift of power. We are, for example, prepared to have India's Tata to come and buy Jaguar and Land Rover, and I think most of us would wish them very well. If the Goldman predictions were to prove right, it would certainly be nice to become a larger economy than Germany to France, and a considerably richer one in terms of living standards. But a "two fingers to Europe" would be a rather childish reaction, even if an understandable one. It would be much better to see our role, more positively, as a bridge between a slow-growing Europe and the fast-growing BRICs.

In any case the UK relationship with Europe is a side-show when set alongside the huge shift of both power and influence captured in the Goldman forecasts. Some of the most interesting data there is on the explosive growth of the new global middle class and on the associated decline in global inequality. By 2030, Goldman reckons that another two billion people may have joined the middle class and that while there is a lot of focus on rising inequality within the emerging economies, if you look globally the reverse is true.

I think the best way to grasp what is happening is to see a shift of power on two levels. On the one level there is the shift away from the political leaders of the G8 towards the leaders of the BRICs. To take a very simple but current issue, what the G8 said about carbon emissions in 2050 is pretty unimportant. Not completely unimportant – that would be to go too far. But much less important than what the BRICs do.

But that is obvious. What is less obvious is the way the tastes and values of this new middle class will shape the way we old middle class live our lives. For example, it is in some measure because the new middle class want to drive around in cars that we are having to pay so much for our petrol. What I am suggesting will happen, however, is more subtle. It is that values of middle-class Asia, such as self-discipline, the thirst for higher education and the driving work ethic, will shape our own values. We will have to brace up a bit – and we will.

Meanwhile there are a few obvious things we should do to embrace the shift of power that is taking place. One would be to co-opt China and Indian on to the new G10. That means more people, but it need not mean for fuss. We could make the whole shebang less formal, have fewer bods in each delegation, so that it went back to its origins as a simple way of getting heads of government together every now and again to talk about economic problems, rather than having a great PR fest. But more deeply I suggest we need to acknowledge that what we in the West think about the way the world economy should develop is much less important than we like to admit. A bit less arrogance, a bit more sensitivity, a bit more awareness and a bit more respect.

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Spain and Canada swich 8 and 9 places every second year and the latest statistics showed Spain's economy was about 0.4 % bigger which is so small it could have been due to error.
Canada is a much bigger energy producer
and Canada exports almost 2 times more in value than Spain (Canada 433 billion which was about the same as the UK).
Canada total trade 800-850 billion dollars (only country with a top 10 gdp to be a top 10 world trader). Spain total trade 600-650 billion dollars.

The world's largest economy relies more on Canada than it does on China and Japan combined.
Canada has the 2nd biggest oil reserves in the world but wasn't even a top 10 oil producing country in 2005. That leaves a lot of room for its gdp to grow in the next couple years and give it an edge over Spain (by 2010 Canada's increased oil output could easily make its gdp bigger than Spain's).

Posted by mike blentzas | 15.07.08, 15:58 GMT

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Hi Hamish
Goldman Sachs Brics dream states China will become half the size of America by 2015.China is growing faster than GS predict and the yuan is appreciating more.China can become half the size of the States by 2012/13 depending on the exchange rate.
If China's average growth rate is 7% 2010-20 and the yuan appreciates by a average 5% per annum then China will overtake America by 2021.
China 2007 gdp growth was 11.9% 9% of China's growth came from domestic demand.

Posted by nick valler | 09.07.08, 23:52 GMT

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"According to the Goldman model the top eight will be: China, US, India, Brazil, Russia, Indonesia, Mexico and the UK in that order."

Only if there's and thriving international market in hot air and bullsh1t!

My money is on there no longer being a United Kingdom by 2020

Posted by flipped | 09.07.08, 18:45 GMT

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For reasons to do with what languauges we should be learning, I had to make a serious guess in 1970 about the relative economic prominence of different countries in 2050. Japan is doing a bit relatively worse than then seemed likely, and India a bit better. However, the general shape of the likely shift in economic dominance was evident even then. It was also evident that the European Community - now Eurpoean Union - would be the relevant European element in the picture; not the separate European nation states.

This is relevant to the impact on our values. We shall have to brace up a bit -and we shall; not least because we will all have to take climate change seriously. But we will also find our selves facing the very deep Chinese and Indian cultural traditions. To keep our end up, we will need to become more consciously and also more unthinkingly cultured. Dumbing down is going to go very much out of fashion.

Posted by David Heigham | 09.07.08, 15:55 GMT

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Economics is fine but there are other things for each country. First and foremost is the resource base. The food riots, linked with lack of purchasing power, are one indication that the global population is well beyond the limits of global resources. Another important factor is climate change and what this will do to each countries resource base. As it gets hotter and drier, as two of the new G8 are beginning to witness, food and water will become more and more critical! (You can't eat fossil fuels.) Alaska, Canada, Russia, Tibet and parts of Soth America would seem to be the ones most likely to come out on top and those in the equatorial belt to have increasingly important problems. Think also about the possible movements of populations away from heat and desertification - where will they go? Siberia?

Posted by Embee (Mike Baker) | 09.07.08, 15:48 GMT

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Posted by art1n | 09.07.08, 14:33 GMT

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Posted by Torro | 09.07.08, 14:32 GMT

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What the West does not realize is that the unsustainable lifestyle projected upon & aspired to by the emerging economy citizens (such as double ethanol powered SUV families in 5,000 sq ft airconditioned houses, with 2 acres of lush green irrigated lawn in the Nevada desert) is wrong.
The West really needs to step up & change the very definition of an economy & a good, simple standard of living.
Remember how in the 1960s, a measure of how well a country is doing was how much cheese was consumed per capita? Well, its translating now into how many billions are spent on health care for obesity!
Congratulations to the South Asian country that measures its success with a "Hapiness & Contentment" measure of its citizens!
The West needs to change & show good leadership in terms of what real development should be!

Posted by Kieth | 09.07.08, 14:00 GMT

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I agree that the current G8 is an economic dinosaur, the sooner they invite China and India to join the quicker they'll be able to discuss and make truly global decisions.

Goldman and Sachs econometric model is laugh though... UK in front of Germany in 40 years time? The model must be based in 2007 economy parameters, pre-credit crunch and pre-$140-dollar oil... seems to me more like Anglo-Saxon wishful thinking. Disregarding the continental European economies is what Gordon Brown (and most British economists) did for 10 years and look now. Indeed "a bit less arrogance, a bit more sensitivity, a bit more awareness and a bit more respect" are needed.

Posted by Monocle | 09.07.08, 13:55 GMT

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Has the study factored in the depletion of natural resources and the fact that cheap oil may not return? We're in for a few years of difficult economic conditions.

The countries that will do best are those which make best use of the resources they have, and push for a more sustainable lifestyle. The West is currently very wasteful. Unless we learn the lesson, our decline is assured.

Posted by David | 09.07.08, 12:48 GMT

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