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Johann Hari: Lies, damned lies... and the double-speak I would expunge

'Climate change', 'infant mortality', 'fair trade'... the list goes on

Fair trade: This phrase suggests that paying desperately poor people a decent wage is a nice ethical add-on

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Fair trade: This phrase suggests that paying desperately poor people a decent wage is a nice ethical add-on

The English language needs periodically to be given a spring-clean, where we scrape off the phrases that have become stuck to the floor and toss out the rotting metaphors that have fallen down the back of the settee. George Orwell warned that language will inevitably become cluttered with phrases that have lost their meaning – or, worse, are actually "designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind". He advised: "If one gets rid of these bad habits one can think more clearly, and to think clearly is a necessary first step towards political regeneration."

I'm not talking about the clichés that crowd us every day. "Your call is very important to us..." we are told, by automated voices that don't give a toss about our call, because if they did, they'd employ somebody to actually answer the damn phone. "With all due respect..." you'll be told, before being thoroughly disrespected. They are disingenuous, but they don't have political consequences.

No – I am talking about phrases that, while posing as neutral descriptions of the world, contain a hidden political agenda that then moulds the assumptions of the listener. An obvious recent example is the phrase "enhanced interrogation techniques", a euphemism deliberately created by the American right to disinfect torture and make it sound reasonable. Language is often deliberately bent and misshapen for political reasons in this way. For example, in the 1980s, the proponents of the failed "War on Drugs" fought hard to turn the phrase "drug use" – plain, straightfoward, and unloaded – into "drug abuse." It evokes sinister images – it sounds like "child abuse" – but what does it mean? How is somebody who smokes cannabis to relax once a week "abusing" the drug? Do they beat up their spliffs?

These phrases can be successfully driven from the language: during the Vietnam War, news reports blandly referred to slaughtered civilians as "collateral damage" – a bloodless phrase that evokes nothing. Today, even the Pentagon press officers avoid those words when describing the death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan, because it has been so thoroughly satirised.

So which phrases would I expunge? There's a useful book by the writer Steven Poole called Unspeak detailing thousands – but here's a short list of some of my own.

Labelling food as "Fair Trade." This phrase suggests that paying desperately poor people a decent wage is a nice ethical add-on, and a gratifying departure from the norm. In fact, it should be taken for granted – the default position of civilised human beings. If we believed that, the labelling would be reversed: it's all the other food that should be labelled as "Unfair Trade", "Rapacious Trade", or "Let's-Pay-a-Pittance Trade." The terrific comedian Andy Zaltzman suggests a sign that could be on the packets: it is a silhouette of an obese businessman pissing on an African child.

"Infant mortality." This sounds clinical and antiseptic – who feels moved when they hear it? – when what we are in fact talking about is dead babies. Here's an example. In Malawi in southeast Africa, the country's soil became badly depleted by overuse, so the democratic government there adopted a sensible policy of subsidising fertiliser. The nation's hungry farmers were given sacks of it at a third of its real cost – and the country bloomed. Then the World Bank damned this as a "market distortion" and said that if Malawi wanted to keep receiving loans it had to stop them at once. So the subsidies stopped, and the country's crops failed. A famine began – and "infant mortality rose".

That's the dull phrase. What we mean is – lots of babies died, totally needlessly. Three years ago, the Malawian government finally told the World Bank to stick its loans, and subsidized fertiliser again. Now nobody there is starving, and the country is the single biggest exporter of corn to the World Food Programme in southern Africa. When on some rare occasion this is mentioned in the news, they might say in passing, "Infant mortality fell." The phrase that tells the truth is: hundreds of thousands of babies stopped dying.

"Christian/Muslim children." Routinely, children are referred to as "Christian" or "Muslim" or "Jewish" or whatever their parents' religion, to justify corralling them into schools segregated by superstition, where they will be indoctrinated in that faith. But children – as Richard Dawkins has pointed out – have no religion. They haven't read the texts, thought through the ideas, and come to a conclusion on the basis of evidence. The purveyors of this phrase don't want them to, either – they want to get them at an age when their rational faculties are poorly formed, and implant it so deeply in their minds that they will become upset and confused when they hear rational counter-arguments. We should refer to them as "the children of Christian/Muslim/Jewish parents", with the clear implication that they have a right to form their own views.

"Climate change." This phrase was invented by the Republican pollster Frank Luntz, when he discovered that focus groups found the phrase "global warming" too scary. Climate change sounds nice and gentle, and evokes our latent awareness that the climate has changed naturally throughout history. Even "global warming" is problematic, since it makes us picture putting our feet up in the sun. The more accurate phrase would be "the unravelling of the ecosystem", "climate chaos", or "catastrophic man-made global warming." They're a mouthful, but they are honest.

"Out of context." I would allow this phrase to be used, but in highly restricted circumstances. Sometimes, a quote is taken out of context, but if you are going to make that accusation, you should be required to give the original context, and explain why the quote was wrong. Instead, this has become a get-out-of-jail free card for anybody who is caught saying something disgusting. For example, when I revealed that Jake Chapman said his art-works performed "a good social service, like the children who killed Jamie Bulger," he simply said this was "stripped from the proper context." How? I have read it in context repeatedly and can't see his argument. It wasn't preceded by a sentence saying "If I was an attention-seeking fool who didn't take anything seriously, I would say..." Similarly, when I revealed that the historian Andrew Roberts praises the Amritsar massacre of innocent civilians as "necessary", and lauds the maniac who ordered it, he said my quotes were "out of context." How?

There are many more I could offer. The use of royal titles by republican commentators and newspapers is bizarre: why can't we call the Windsor family by their names, as we do with everyone else? Why not refer to "the Queen" as Elizabeth Windsor, and her son as Charles Windsor? It chips away at their ludicrous unearned aura, and introduces a republican logic to the language. The phrase "the politics of envy" is routinely used to stigmatize the most basic instincts for social justice – including by New Labour politicians like Hazel Blears. As the superb book The Spirit Level by Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett shows, the more unequal a society becomes, the higher the rates of crime, addiction, and sickness soar. To oppose that isn't envy. It is humanity.

Orwell said we must "let the meaning choose the word, and not the other way around". If they are dead babies, call them dead babies. If the ecosystem is unravelling, say the ecosystem is unravelling. It is only when we honestly describe the world that we can begin to change it.

j.hari@independent.co.uk

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Euphemisms
[info]ns_1983 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:31 am (UTC)
I can't believe you missed out 'credit crunch'.
[info]mondeo_man wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:55 am (UTC)
...and 'positive discrimination'
Lol
[info]gordex2009 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 06:35 am (UTC)
I love this collection of left wing pathologies! "Climate change" was invented by alarmists when they discovered global temperatures weren't actually rising and they needed to broaden the battlefield...as for Fair Trade - do you know anything about economics? What would actually happen if you paid someone $10/tonne when the market rate was $1? I absolutely love this one - it's the same when your mob talk about sweat shop wages - you actually believe workers in developing economicies should be paid the going Western wage rates, even though this would represent some completely absurd premium at that country's purchase power parity. Infant Mortality - well your point may be valid, but how about abortion, or "selective reduction"? I bet you'd never call those practices "murdering babies", would you, hypocrite?
Re: Lol
[info]mikesc6 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:27 pm (UTC)
"Climate change" was invented by people who discovered, through the application of scientific methods, that the climate would change. I'm no climatologist, but neither are those who blindly claim that we have nothing to worry about, that it's all a conspiracy to squeeze the poor long-suffering middle classes (poor them!).

About Fair Trade- do you think that it's an unavoidable given that third world workers have to work 100 hours a week for penny wages from as young as five? You're frankly deluded if so. It would be easier to believe that there is something inevitable about the poverty and halved life-expectency these people suffer through to deliver increased "efficiency" (another example of double-speak) to first-world companies. Poverty or starvation is their choice under capitalism, it is not an eternal, inevitable state of nature.

You would not call abortion "murdering babies" because that would be a lie, not out of hypocrisy. A fetus is a fetus, it is not a "baby".
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Orwell would hate this journalism
[info]gdvaluesnakeoil wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 07:12 am (UTC)
Politics and the English Language is amongst the most important essays of the 20thC. This piece is a more man's rehash.

In what way does Hari "reveal" Andrew Roberts praising the Amritsar massacre of innocent civilians as "necessary"? Does he praise it? Or does he just argue that this was so. Is Hari not twisting meaning here, in much the same way as Orwell reviled? As for Hari revealing this, I think the published work of the historian reveals it. Pompous idiot.

Take any comment piece by Hari or YAB in the Indie, and then read Politics and the English Language. Then again, if you have half a brain, you will see through the loosely stitched arguments, covered in a thick layer of turgid expression, anyway.

YAB won the Orwell prize. Ultimate irony.
Re: Orwell would hate this journalism
[info]tizab wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 09:43 am (UTC)
Good Lord?
Regards,
Tizab
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Euphemisms
[info]vaitibi wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 07:28 am (UTC)
'unravelling of the ecosystem' , 'climate chaos' , 'catastrophic man-made global warming' are certainly a mouthful but honest? They are the deluded ramblings of simpletons who hate people.
Re: Euphemisms
[info]mbilps wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 03:50 pm (UTC)
Actually, the huge majority of scientist across the world and across all political spectrums agree that the activities of man are causing potentially catastrophic changes to the world's ecosystems. Why does being concerned about this mean that I hate people.

Does this make me a simpleton? If you are not a simpleton, then why don't you actually make an argument instead of blurting misinformed prejudice.
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[info]famulla wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 07:34 am (UTC)
Lies, damned lies... and the double-speak I would expunge
'Climate change', 'infant mortality', 'fair trade'... the list goes on THEY PROUDLY GLUED THEIR HANDS ONE TO THE NEXT WITH SUPER GLUE. THE terrorist have one grave for one. Will the UK allow , all of these to be cruxified , burnt or buried the way they are? There was a man who alwsy scared the wife, " When I die I will haunt you in the nights. Whne he died, the neighbours wanted to know as usual they are snoppy are they not?, They asked her , "So? "He he heh He cannot scaorre me. I buried him head first and the toes on top May be by now he is South Pole".... I worry a lot about these and the Libyan who is in the hospital in the ICU UCME
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla


the ice age and its miserable effects.
[info]tizab wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 10:40 am (UTC)
Yes, the phrases, in particular, the " climate change" is exactly as you say. "goog". The porridge is cooked by the politicians for our consumption with the help of media. I, personally feel poisoned by it. the cold and damp of this summer has left my left arm nearly unusable. The hot summer prediction was someone's winter's dream which did not materialise. And we know that we are officially in the ice age. So, from which direction this warming is coming? I would embrace the warming, the heating and the burning with all of my might. Every sane person would agree that we need a bit of the warming in this " always overcast" country. And the weather makes the Brits look and feel unhappy. the further you go up in the country, the more miserable the people look. A little truth for your information.
Regards,
Tizab

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Euphemisms
[info]jamesdar wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 07:53 am (UTC)
Another that irritates me is politicians' use of "refute" as a synonym for "deny" (presumably because it sounds better). Refute means to provide PROOF that something is incorrect
Re: Euphemisms
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 02:01 pm (UTC)
Correct. And "deny" means to reject without proof.
Reference: Lol
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 07:53 am (UTC)
How right you are gordex2009, 'Climate Change' was invented by the AGW alarmists. They also invented the phrase 'climate change deniers' so as to liken climate realists to the holocaust deniers.
Understanding is key...
[info]mumbogumbo wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 08:25 am (UTC)
We are constantly assailed by rhetoric, cleverly constructed sound bytes and political messaging at every level. It is an essential skill to be able to differentiate between lingusitic garbage and useful information, or to be able to devine truth from fiction if we are to understand the intentions of those from whose lips (or pen) such utterings issue forth.

Much of the messaging is subliminal, contained in so-called 'infotainment' prgrammes and is often trickier to unravel. Anyone can learn to see through the craftily spun web of misinformation and perception management - but only if they are motivated or care enough to be bothered about how we are continually duped by the managers of the infornation flow.
mind your language
[info]jimfred wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 08:29 am (UTC)
Fairtrade:a few years ago,it was reported that workers in Thailand who were making designer clothes were paid 17 pence a day.This was a starvation wage.Why not pay them enough to live reasonably?
If you paid them a pound a day,or whatever,what difference to the end user price would that make?
I suppose what ''Fairtrade'' means is,"Being fucked over very slightly less than usual".
Re: mind your language
[info]drplokta wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 02:37 pm (UTC)
If you're going to pay £1/day, you will move your production to somewhere with better infrastructure/political stability/quality of workforce but where you can't get employees any cheaper than £1/day, and the workers currently getting 17p/day will get nothing instead, because they've lost their only competitive advantage.
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Hmm
[info]ron_broxted wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 08:43 am (UTC)
Recession=Depression, police "Officers"=police, they don't hold a commission, civilians (the only non civilian plod are Royal Military Police), Royal family? Either Saxe-Coburg-von Augustenburg-von Sonderbug or Conroy (Sir John Conroy knocked boots with Queen Victorias Mum 9 months before her birth and had haemophilia.
mind your language
[info]jimfred wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 08:55 am (UTC)
"Fairtrade",means,"Being fucked over very slightly less than usual".
More Rubbish Eupemisms
[info]elvuracat wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 09:34 am (UTC)
Ethnic Cleansing for genocide.
Extra-judicial killing for state-sanctioned murder.
Ethnic cleansing hasn't been used for some time, but these are the two that rankle the most.
Full Monty
[info]eurobenjy wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 10:03 am (UTC)
That gets right on my tits, that one...
Double-speak
[info]bookseeker wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 11:29 am (UTC)
Johann, the trouble is that many of your own words with which you would replace what you regard as "double-speak" are dependant on your own point of view, and not necessarily on fact.

Take the Queen, for example. No matter how much of a republican I may be, she is still de facto the Queen, the constitutional monarch of the country of which I am a citizen. No amount of my refusing to use the word "queen" will change that. Also referring to her as "Elizabeth Windsor" carries with it its own problems; royal "Houses" are not necessarily surnames, and "Windsor" is an assumed house-name derived from a spirit of xenophobia around WW1. Would you be happy to endorse xenophobia?

I work in "the public sector" (a nice euphemism for you to get your angry teeth into). No matter how much a republican I might be I would rather work, nominally, for a person who (it might be argued) stands for the country as a whole, than for a member of the political class who has wheedled his or her way into office by the grace of Xs on pieces of paper. And I would prefer to do that until it becomes clear to me that the "public sector" actually can work and does work for the people and has a title that truly reflects that.

As for "Christian children", I see that you take the side of that ill-tempered ruffian Richard Dawkins. Hmm. The founder of Christianity was a much nicer chap and, as I recall, when the adults tried to muscle in on him to the detriment of children, said, "Let the little children come to me, and don't stop them".

The truth is that what we label things doesn't matter a hoot until we change them. If you don't like Christianity, outlaw it. If you don't like the monarchy, stage a revolution. If you don't like someone else's opinion, however, and how they express it, I'm afraid you'll have to suck it up!
Dawkins etc
[info]bsaneil wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 11:43 am (UTC)
I think it is entirely reasonable that Dawkins objects to a 'muslim child' or a 'catholic baby'. How on earth can a system of thought be inherited? Why call someone a bully for exposing the fallacies of systems of thought which have bullied people into wars, guilt, superstition and ignorance for many centuries?
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Johann is wrong
[info]ourmaninberlin wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 11:53 am (UTC)
'Enhanced interrogation techniques' wasn't a euphemism created by the American right, it was first used by the Gestapo to describe their methods. Still it is always nice to know where US security services get their ideas from.
Re: Johann is wrong
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 02:21 pm (UTC)
Correct, the USA "security forces" have since the 1950s when the military took control silently of the government of the USA with its mouthpiece Wisconsin Republican Senator James McCarthy launched with California Republic Representative Richard M. Nixon the congressional "witch hunts" for communists. This continued through contemporary 20th century USA history until University of California at Berkeley Professor of Law John Yoo wrote papers arguing for "enhanced interrogation" which he has (like former Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge, George W. Bush's Secretary of Homeland "Security" admits in his new book) noted several times were torture--some of the most vile acts (including threatening to rape the parents of a captured person in front of that prisoner, or bringing mad dogs face to face with the prisoner as at Abu Gharib prison and throughout the CIA prisons in Lithuania, Poland, Peru, etc). The CIA has always been a training ground for sadists. That is why the USA is in Columbia, worked with the propertied elite to overthrow the legitimately elected president Mel Zelaya, and under two arch criminals Richard M. Nixon and Henry Kissinger charged the CIA with the assassination of Chile's legally elected president Salvador Allende, pushed in mass murderer Alberto Fujimori in Peru, and led to a blood bath by the contras in Nicargua, etc. Not until the CIA and the NSC is prosecuted for crimes against humanity and shut down will any nation be free.
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Euphemisms
[info]telfreeman wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 11:54 am (UTC)

I've noticed "I DON'T RECOGNISE YOUR ........." quietly slipping it's way into a politicians vocabulary.

Re: Euphemisms
[info]tominlondon wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 05:53 pm (UTC)
it's means- it is.

Always.

It never means anything else.
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"What. Don't you know the lock is now digital."
[info]famulla wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:02 pm (UTC)
Understanding is key...
I am sorry My friend told me the same thing. You need the key to the heaven but the preaher cut him to one inch.
"What. Don't you know the lock is now digital." So sorry as we enter from ZERO and 1 to 1 and 0 we need to go to basics NO keys kiss ONLY super GLUE to stick up the ass to go to hell. What do you say j.hariof 000111.com edu org@independent.co.uk.world,libya.scot
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
I expunge
[info]econyonium wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:06 pm (UTC)
It seems to me the author is guilty of that which he condemns, getting us to use the words and phrases that "contain a hidden political agenda that then moulds the assumptions of the listener" according to his own politics and viewpoint.
Re: I expunge
[info]dinsylwy wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 09:57 pm (UTC)
Too right. The author, despite that photo of him simpering sympathetically at those of us not as enlightened as he, is, despite his pretensions to liberalism, a control-freak of the first water
They're all coming out the woodwork.
[info]mowfalmighty wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:31 pm (UTC)
gordex2009 and ptstroud to name but a few.
You guys are so on the money, I mean why should we care about the Third Wolrd, who do these people think they are starving on our doorstep, bloody cheek of it, damn good horsewhippings what they need!
Nothing annoys me more than the liberal overuse of the word 'famine' . I mean if these so called 'starving ' Africans are so hungry why dont they open a macdonalds for Godsake, thats what i'd do. More pertinently of course we cant compare third world peoples starvation levels to those of the 'civilized nations ' wot ho, These people prefer to be a tad hungry, does them good wot, stops them being lazy. If these people had food God knows what might happen . Give em an inch and they'll take a mile. I actually prefer clothes that are stained with the sweat of five year old child slaves hands, makes one feel self important in my little jopb at the Depot. Damned lefties!
Must sign off, house is being carried away by a flashflood, (absolutley nothing to do with 'global warming' of course, just a natural chain of events caused by um....natural cycles of things......And I do so love row boats.
Re: They're all coming out the woodwork.
[info]mikesc6 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:49 pm (UTC)
Yeah, there's a subtle kind of racism in it, almost inverse-racism in that it applies a virtue to people for us to take advantage of- "those Indians *can* work like that, it's normal for them!" and all that.
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Food trade
[info]uanime5 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:40 pm (UTC)
Labelling food as "Fair Trade." This phrase suggests that paying desperately poor people a decent wage is a nice ethical add-on, and a gratifying departure from the norm. In fact, it should be taken for granted – the default position of civilised human beings. If we believed that, the labelling would be reversed: it's all the other food that should be labelled as "Unfair Trade", "Rapacious Trade", or "Let's-Pay-a-Pittance Trade."


What about food produced by all the European and American farmers, how should that be labelled? I doubt they're paid a pittance.
Re: Food trade
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 02:35 pm (UTC)
European and American farmers received government subsidies not to grow. That is because Europe and the USA can import food cheaper from Latin America, clothing and Asia from the Middle East and Asia than it can produce in their nations--while unemployment rises as oligarchs do not welcome pay increases that would lessen their already obscene profits. While the middle class is being eroded, the rich get richer (as with MPs) and the poor are forced out of jobs and homes (notice the rate of foreclosures is increasing, not decreasing) and foodlines are appearing everywhere from Washington DC and Los Angeles, to London and Bath. Rather than increase the taxes on those best able to pay, the right-wing conservative shock jocks libel reality and demand a "flat tax" that has been the salve used to soothe the tempers of the disgruntled. Not until there is a more equitable division of wealth among all people will there ever be a peaceful society that can grow to its mutual benefit.
Malawian fantasy
[info]uanime5 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:55 pm (UTC)
Yet again Jon Harri ignores an inconvient reality to pedal his leftist views.

The Malawian Government cut free fertilisers and seed because the program was too expensive to maintain. He also ignores the fact that the World Bank and IMF stopped investing in Malawia in 2000 because of corruption claims, but were investing in it in 2005 and continued to invest in Malawia even after they started subsidising fertiliser after a poor harvest in the south (the famine was localised and did not extend throughout all of Malawia).

Try using real facts Jon.
[info]mikesc6 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 12:59 pm (UTC)
"If we believed that, the labelling would be reversed: it's all the other food that should be labelled as "Unfair Trade", "Rapacious Trade", or "Let's-Pay-a-Pittance Trade.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_cocoa_production
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12754

A "slave-free" label was going to be created in 2001 for chocolate companies. Not a single one qualified for it.

Social Democracy is just as vile as neoliberalism, the concessions won by first world workers under social democracy are gained at the expense of third world workers. That seems to be the EU's modus operandi.
Expunge this word!
[info]pcwpcw wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 01:34 pm (UTC)
And what, pray, is an "ecosystem"? (And how does it "unravel"?)
How about...
[info]falanf wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 01:46 pm (UTC)
Public Schools.
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