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Johann Hari: The dark side of Andrew Roberts

This historian's work elaborately defends the crimes of a white man's empire

The BBC described Andrew Roberts as one of Britain's foremost young historians for his 'groundbreaking' 2003 series, The Secrets of Leadership

Jonathan Hackitt, BBC

Andrew Roberts is routinely described in the British press as a talented historian with a penchant for partying

What does it say about Britain that today we merrily laud a historian who celebrates the most murderous acts of the British Empire – and even says women and children who died in our concentration camps were killed by their own stupidity?

Andrew Roberts is routinely described in the British press as a talented historian with a penchant for partying. They affectionately describe how the 46-year-old millionaire-inheritee sucks up to the English aristocracy. He brags: "To [the] charge of snobbery I plead guilty, with pride," saying he has "an exaggerated sense of – and tak[es] an unapologetic delight in – class distinctions." But all this Evelyn Waugh tomfoolery masks the toxic values that infuse Roberts's works of "history".

Roberts, who has a new book out this week, describes himself as "extremely right-wing". To understand him, you need to look at a small, sinister group of British-based South African and Zimbabwean exiles he has associated with. In 2001, Roberts spoke to a dinner of the Springbok Club, a group that regards itself as the shadow white government of South Africa. Its founder, a former member of the neo-fascist National Front, says: "In a nutshell our policy can be summed up in one sentence: we want our countries back, and believe this can now only come about by the re-establishment of civilised European rule throughout the African continent."

The club, according to its website, flies the flag of apartheid South Africa at every meeting. The British High Commission has accused the club of spreading "hate literature".

The dinner was a celebration of the 36th anniversary of the day the white supremacist government of Rhodesia announced a unilateral declaration of independence from Great Britain, because it was pressing the country to enfranchise black people. Surrounded by nostalgists for this racist rule, Roberts, according to the club's website, "finished his speech by proposing a toast to the Springbok Club, which he said he considered the heir to previous imperial achievements".

When I first pointed out this connection, Roberts said he gave a "historical speech", hadn't realised the Springbok Club was a racist organisation, and didn't recall anyone saying anything racist. Wasn't the apartheid flag, and the fact they were there specifically to celebrate the anniversary of a white supremacist declaration, a hint?

That Roberts would cheerfully lap up the applause of the Springbok Club is not surprising: it is perfectly logical to anybody who has read his writing, which consists of elaborate defences for the crimes of a white man's empire – and a plea to the US to continue its work.

How should this empire exercise its power? One useful tactic, Roberts appears to believe, is massacring civilians. The Amritsar massacre is one of the ugliest episodes in the history of the British Raj. In 1919, Brigadier-General Reginald Dyer opened fire on 10,000 unarmed men, women, and children who were peacefully protesting, and about 400 died. Dyer was even repudiated by the British government. As Patrick French, an award-winning historian of the period, explains: "The biographies of Dyer show that he was clearly mentally abnormal, and there was no way he should have been in charge of troops."

Yet Dyer has, at last, found a defender – Andrew Roberts. In his book A History Of The English-Speaking Peoples Since 1900, he says that after Dyer shot down the peaceful crowd, "[i]t was not necessary for another shot to be fired throughout the entire region". He later comments: "Today's reactions to Dyer's deed are of course uniformly damning ... but if the Amritsar district, Punjab region or southern India generally had carried on in revolt, many more than 379 people would have lost their lives."

It is an extraordinary rationalisation for killing women and children in cold blood, and rejected by virtually all other historians. It was only after I exposed this passage that Roberts finally said: "I have never approved of massacring civilians."

But in his writings Roberts is even supportive of politicians who take mass punishment to its most extreme conclusion: concentration camps. His political hero is Lord Salisbury, the British prime minister who, during the Boer War, constructed concentration camps in South Africa that inspired Hermann Goering. Under Salisbury, the British burned Boer civilians out of their homes and farms and drove them into concentration camps, so they could grab control of one of the most strategically important parts of Africa. The result was that about 34,000 people – some 15 per cent of the entire Boer population – died in the camps, mainly of disease and starvation.

Roberts presents a very different picture. He says the British introduced "regime change" in Pretoria out of a concern "for human rights". Far from being a "war crime", the concentration camps "were set up for the Boers' protection". The mass deaths there were not a result of British policy. No: they were primarily the prisoners' own fault, because they didn't know how to take medicine or treat disease, and deliberately spread lice.

The "evidence" he gives for this is the word of a single British doctor who worked in the camps. What would our picture of the German camps look like if we relied on the words of a Nazi-employed doctor? Professor Mike Davis, an academic expert on the British Empire, says: "His arguments about the Boer concentration camps are similar to the arguments of the apologists about the Nazi camps."

This is not merely a matter of the past. Roberts sees his histories as road maps to the future, advising George W Bush, at a White House dinner to celebrate his histories, to adopt "the whole idea of mass internment", saying: "I think it is the way the administration of Iraq should go." Incredibly, he cited Ireland as a model of how internment can work, a claim that provokes incredulity in Irish historians.

This man is a high-society yob and he would be shunned in a culture that took human rights seriously. But it appears that in Britain today justifying mass murder will be cheerfully overlooked, provided the killing was carried out under the flapping of the Union Jack, and you can sprinkle some tart gossip into the pages of Tatler afterwards.

j.hari@independent.co.uk

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Hmmm
[info]baronscourt wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 02:50 am (UTC)
This whole piece reads like much of Hari's writing - a student polemicist at a Cambridge debating society. "White man's empire" is the sort of emotive description which detracts from the views expressed in this article and makes people think of Hari as a precocious youth trying to impress his professors. A few selectively quoted passages from Roberts' work and a rant about his unashamed class credentials makes this sound bitter rather than well-informed. There is a place for a spectrum of opinion on Britain's imperial legacy because it was so mixed. Roberts puts the extreme case, effectively that Britain civilised the world (and, to be fair, some good was done - the development of infrastructure, for instance). But there is no doubt plenty of unfair and occasionally scandalous things were done. Hari's mistake is to dress his attack on Roberts up in terms of class - which he finds innately objectionable, rather than to take a more measured view of what empire's legacy is.
Re: Hmmm
[info]cybernaught2009 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 06:25 am (UTC)
I agree with the student-polemicist charge. For example, Johann Hari jumps too quickly from the British concentration camps of the Boer War to those of Nazi Germany.

The deaths of thousands of Boer women and children in the British camps cannot be excused. However I think that it is fair to argue that this was not a result of a deliberate policy of genocide, but rather of poor administration, lack of supplies, and lack of concern by the British high command. Thus one should not, as Hari does all too blithely, associate these camps with the Nazi extermination camps. The British camps were formed for military, not genocidal, reasons. There was no policy to exterminate the Boers, there were no gas chambers, or medical experiments, etc.

I don't want to defend Andrew Roberts's writings, as I have not read his work. However, I think that Niall Ferguson's 'Empire' presents quite a good, and balanced, argument for the positive contribution of the British Empire.
Re: Hmmm - [info]richleau - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 06:35 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Hmmm - [info]cybernaught2009 - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 08:18 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Hmmm - [info]iunomoneta - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 08:33 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Hmmm - [info]richleau - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 01:20 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Hmmm - [info]richleau - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 01:29 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Hmmm - [info]cybernaught2009 - Tuesday, 4 August 2009 at 08:56 am (UTC) Expand
Yes, I agree - [info]morgan_stephen1 - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 08:12 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Yes, I agree - [info]fastguyeddie - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 10:57 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Hmmm - [info]ekulluke - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 11:00 am (UTC) Expand
past to present
[info]gulliver055 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 03:34 am (UTC)
if blair's government could have taken the evidence available to it they couldn't've allowed themselves to invade. they knew their evidence was crock - because it was their contrived argument for awr, ignoring internationally recognised evidence the ignoring of which shows the government was intent on committing the most heinous of all crimes, state aggression - oh, sorry. got the wrong high-society yob.
high society yob
[info]gulliver055 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 03:50 am (UTC)
but seriously, that's something politicians, journalists, bankers and assorted businessmen must, and can't, prove. after all, you ignored UNSCOM and UNMOVIC and ritter and halliday and on ...

people in the higher echelons still believe such a thing as 'proof' exists?
or care?
[info]gulliver055 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 04:10 am (UTC)
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UDI ?
[info]dunque123 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 04:50 am (UTC)
After Hari reliably informs us that Rhodesia UDI was in 1973, I thought I would check as I recalled it was earlier. It was in 1965, so another bang-up job by this rather amateur columnist then!
Re: UDI ?
[info]folly_dodger wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 06:53 am (UTC)
The dinner took place in 2001 to mark the 36th anniversary of UDI, which occurred in 1965. Read slower and calm down.
what an archaic article!!
[info]lush_laroo wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 06:17 am (UTC)
Here you go again the "Widow Twanky" of the PC lefty brigade raised on automatic flagellation at the mention of the British Empire.
You are so tiresome the Ben Elton of journalists ranting on about ideals of formed in the 1960's and so so out of date today, the Polly Toynbee ( Bolly drinking, loves her villa in Tuscany socialist) of the Independent .
How many times did your head disappear down the toilet bowl at school, I bet you hold the world record.
Get over it we all have and move on.

Re: what an archaic article!!
[info]maxmillerfan wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 10:48 am (UTC)
How interesting that these comments are filled with personal abuse, but don't answer the charges in Hari's article at all.

Anyone here want to defend Roberts' claim that the Amritsar massacre was "necessary", or the people who died in the Boer concentration camps died because they were stupid?

A little less screaming and a little more coherent response to the article would be useful. At the moment, you sound like insane people at a bus stop yelling "It's wasn't us that killed the darkies!"
Worried
[info]richleau wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 06:30 am (UTC)
And guess which newspaper publisher gives Roberts regular space to expound his views. To those attacking Hari I suggest a moment spent reading Roberts' column might temper their opinions.

Frankly, I find almost anyone out of Africa who is white deeply worrying. They almost all share a disturbingly racist view of life, a love of authoritarianism, thinking hanging is too good a punishment and flogging improves character.

Roberts does indeed move in murky waters.
Re: Worried
[info]ed_fender wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 07:48 am (UTC)
So, you don't like white Africans? I think there's a word for that beginning with "R".
Re: Worried - [info]richleau - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 01:13 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Worried - [info]you_andi - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:47 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Worried - [info]richleau - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 01:26 pm (UTC) Expand
Why Publicise a Twit?
[info]mikestone8 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 06:34 am (UTC)
If Mr Hari dislikes Andrew Roberts so much, then why give him free publicity?

Perhaps I show my ignorance, but until I read this article I had never even heard of the guy - and from the sound of things I haven't missed bery much.

Sounds like just another classic proof that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense.
Re: UDI?
[info]howlofminerva wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 07:05 am (UTC)
Dunque 123 writes: "After Hari reliably informs us that Rhodesia UDI was in 1973, I thought I would check as I recalled it was earlier. It was in 1965, so another bang-up job by this rather amateur columnist then!"

Oh dear... Hari wrote that Roberts attended an event in 2001, which marked the 36th anniversary of the UDI declaration. That puts UDI, on Hari's account, at errr... 1965

Rather amateur arithmetic.

Ta ta.
hack
[info]tph197 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 07:20 am (UTC)
An incoherent and poisonous personal attack by a talentless hack on a respected if controversial historian. Hari lives in a world of adolescent absolutes and seems a stranger to rational analysis.
Re: hack
[info]lady_icedragon wrote:
Wednesday, 5 August 2009 at 07:31 am (UTC)
Clearly you have not read the article, nor any of Hari's (extensive, detailed, rational) work.

I suggest you go back to the beginning and try again.
I'm glad someone has said it
[info]whostoletyke wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 07:29 am (UTC)
...because I have always had my doubts about Andrew Roberts. He appears on Question Time and I always get this uneasy feeling of where I've heard his ilk before. Then I recalled how I spent twelve years as a Gastarbeiter (guest worker) in (West) Germany in the 1970s and found plenty of similar opinion. It seems every generation, every nation, has to reinvent this particular wheel.
A poor piece of journalism, a worse piece of history
[info]gdvaluesnakeoil wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 07:43 am (UTC)
That the editor allows such a lazy piece of journalism to appear really shows how far the Independent has fallen. Hari might have a double first in political and social sciences, victimhood and yoghart knitting from Kings College Cambridge, but history is a discipline that demands a bit intellectual rigour. I guess Hari would count himself as a modernist, who holds the value of analysing all the evidence cheap. Then again what is good for the goose of Yasim Alibhi Brown is good for the gander of Mr Hari I suppose.

I have lived and worked in some of the remoter and more difficult regions of Africa for years and grand standing egoists who think parliamentary jollies in Kivu mean they know what they are talking about piss me off. I wonder if Hari woul be willing to live and work here for years, dealing with the reality day in, day out.

The British Empire was a mixed bag. It did some bad things (seen as much worse by modern standards) and it undoubtedly did some very good things. The record of many sovereign governments is the same, a mixed bag. Much of what Hari holds up as evidence of British intent was more often the result of muddle and incompetence. Not an excuse, but at the same time lazy and silly comaprisons between the Brits and the Nazis show that Hari is not a serious writer. Some rational balanced analysis based on the full range of evidence would be welcome. As it is all we get is Mr Hari massaging his own ego:

"It was only after I exposed this passage."


Alongside this he quots secondary sources as if they were authoritative. This bloke got a double first? I heard Cambridge is not what it was but this really does represent a sad decline in standards.
johann hari's hate.
[info]darryn87 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 07:50 am (UTC)
anyone who looks at african politics and the society of almost every african nation must accept that the black african race and their cultural norms are very backward, to the point of being stone-aged. it may not be politically correct to say, but fact is fact. blacks have been given billions, trillions in aid, and have done nothing but squander it on tribal wars and to establish dictatorships. africa would be better off in the hands of european men. and yet, in britain, in the words of enoch powell, the black man holds the whip hand.
Re: johann hari's hate.
[info]edwren wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:05 am (UTC)

I often find myself thinking the same. Of all the great empires and civilisations where are the Africans. I remember several years ago a professor declaring his black students were not as capable as his others. A truth but not a politically correct one.
Get over it
[info]riksavage wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 07:53 am (UTC)
Johann Hari strikes me as a pathetic little hater of anything to do with British History unless it's painted in a negative 'butchers apron' light. History is history get over it, after all it wasn't only the dreaded 'white man' who terrorised Africa, the Zulu's did a damn fine job well before the 'white man' moved North from the Cape. Why does everything to do with Africa have to come down to white vs. black - this has been used for too long as an excuse for bad government, corruption and incompetence across the continent, it's time they got off their knees, tossed away the begging bowl and joined the rest of the civilised world.
"an extraordinary rationalisation...
[info]tatcawh wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 08:41 am (UTC)
.... for killing women and children in cold blood"

Well, a Mau-Mau fanboy like Hari should know all about how to rationalise and excuse the brutal murder of women and children.
Another masterpiece from Hari!
[info]chris_c_d wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:12 am (UTC)
Hari, as a columnist you are pathetic! Not only is your research slipshod, your use of the english language is boring and insulting.

Editor, how about getting back to the standard of journalism this newspaper enjoyed after launching, when it truely was "Independent".

I agree with lush.laroo that Hari must have (and probably still has) been targetted by individuals who cannot stand his pathetic whining, I am happy to say I would be one of them and would gladly stick his head in the toilet.

Sack the pratt.
Truth hurts
[info]repstones wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 08:54 am (UTC)
Funny that, but it seems defending the 'noble' british empire is usually done by British people. Exactly the kind of people whose ancestors were never at the business end of a british bayonet.

Roberts emodies the worst kind of element of this 'darned savages don't know whats good for them' attitude.

Also no matter what way many of you try and spin it, the Nazis were indeed inspired by many policies of the british empire.
right, center, Front benchers, Last benches, Right wingers, left winger, right wingers, And so many
[info]famulla wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 08:59 am (UTC)
This is called smartness. Johann Hari, smartness. Can you do that? No? One question. Where is the. The British High Commission?
Can some one please help me on these? Left extremist, right, center, Front benchers, Last benches, Right wingers, left winger, right wingers, And so many of these.
The British High Commission has accused the club of spreading "hate literature".
A History Of The English-Speaking Peoples Since 1900, he says that after Dyer shot down the peaceful crowd, "[i]t was not necessary for another shot to be fired throughout the entire region". He later comments: "Today's reactions to Dyer's deed are of course uniformly damning ... but if the Amritsar district, Punjab region or southern India generally had carried on in revolt, many more than 379 people would have lost their lives."
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
this article
[info]mitchellnbeard wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:10 am (UTC)
I think he would have a lot to talk to David Irving about. I remember meeting a man in Calcutta who said that India was better under the Raj. Don't think many of his countrymen would agree now. Times have moved on: countries need to achieve the political maturity to sort out their own affairs. The children have grown up and need to leave home
A very fine piece
[info]the_mcquade wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:16 am (UTC)
A fine piece of writing Johan, as can be judged from the fevered blustering of many of the commenters here: the parochial and ignorant are easily upset.

Keep it up!
Re: A very fine piece
[info]chris_c_d wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:52 am (UTC)

If it was a fine piece, the parochial and ignorant amongst us would enjoy a debate, unfortunately Hari is incapable of "fine writing" as has been proven time and again, which is why his ignorant and parochial critics here cannot be bothered to stoop so low as to make him feel he is anything other than a silly schoolboy who has never grown up. Toilet, head, flush, result.

Another form or ignorance is accepting any old b*****s someone tries to sell you. Get out of the house once in a while.
[info]gdvaluesnakeoil wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:17 am (UTC)
Repstones- have much experience of Africa do you?

Try Uganda, Tanzania or Kenya, where many of the older people look back fondly on British rule. Whether you like it or not these places were far better governed under the Brits. Botswana had the wit not to rush to independence. Doing quite nicely because of it.

Many Congolese will say they wished they had been colonised by the Brits.

Colonialism relative to modern governance in Africa was not all bad, indeed much of it was better than the corrupt and incompetent regimes Bono and Geldoff want us to give aid to today.
Roberts
[info]bobbellinhell wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:31 am (UTC)
Roberts clearly has a right-wing bias, and it's no surprise to find imperialist posters on here saying that Hari's criticisms are racially motivated.
Silly children - [info]johnnycaustic - Friday, 31 July 2009 at 10:40 am (UTC) Expand
Britain has never come to terms with the atrocities of it's colonial past
[info]steerpike66 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:34 am (UTC)
The drug-dealing, the slavery, the mass-murder, the engineered famines, the pillage and torture. The Germans are infinitely more morally responsible for their past evils. British people are moral infants when it comes to this sort of thing, blustering idiots who nurse their vanished, never-ever-to-return glories and a culture that that outgrown them completely.

And Robinson is the Mary Poppins of this nursery of red-faced bawling brats.

And look up the Congolese Empire, you ignorant, racist cretins.
Re: Britain has never come to terms with the atrocities of it's colonial past
[info]steerpike66 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:37 am (UTC)
The reason nobody knows about the sophistication of much pre-colonial African culture is that it has been so utterly erased from the face of the Earth; which is in itself a crime against humanity of gigantic proportions.

Britain has never come to terms with the atrocities of it's colonial past
[info]steerpike66 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:34 am (UTC)
The drug-dealing, the slavery, the mass-murder, the engineered famines, the pillage and torture. The Germans are infinitely more morally responsible for their past evils. British people are moral infants when it comes to this sort of thing, blustering idiots who nurse their vanished, never-ever-to-return glories and a culture that that outgrown them completely.

And Robinson is the Mary Poppins of this nursery of red-faced bawling brats.

And look up the Congolese Empire, you ignorant, racist cretins.
Thanks for proving my point
[info]repstones wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:41 am (UTC)
Thanks for your concern gdvaluesnakeoil, and yes i have plenty of African experience, having lived in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Chad.
In my experience many of the older 'people' who look back fondly on the colonial experience were the type of Marshal Petáin types who had it very good under the 'noble' colonists and now their benefactor is gone they are merely left to sit and reminisce how they used to love beating their fellow countrymen whilst in the pay of the foreigners.

Many of the corrupt regimes you speak of were established by people who learned their trade in the pay of their former colonial masters. Idi Amin for instance.

Colonialism was not enitrely bad, on that I agree. But I detest the 'savage natives' attitude you seem to support. Britain, France, Spain etc had no business whatsoever in those countries.
I am not sure what you mean by "we"
[info]larkspur_14 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:42 am (UTC)
I take an uapologetic delight in distinguishing between oafish jingoists and genuine academics. The fact that for over a decade the BBC and other establishment outlets have been touting these apologias for war crimes as deep thought tells me just one thing: NATO and other inheritors of the Empire Roberts so misses intend to continue committing atrocities and war crimes. He provides the rationalisations and a veneer of academic respectability, but the views are the stuff of BNP fantasy.
A real pity
[info]acre_42 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:53 am (UTC)
Some of his earlier works have been outstanding such as his book "Secrets of Leadership" which looked at the comparison of Hitler and Churchill. He wrote about the Fuhrer with such contempt for fascism that i find this article quite incredible. Unless he really has had a mid life crisis.
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