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John Harris: A world without men? That's not the real ethical issue here

I cannot see a downside to research that increases the range of human possibility and choice

The end of men has always been a possibility. Women have many ways of trying to do without men. They don't need men – they just need their sperm. Sperm is a notoriously renewable resource and it is plentiful. There is always the turkey baster option for women who want to get pregnant but do not see the need to get a man.

Now, if this research is confirmed, all they will need is a very large supply of male stem cells. Might we see the George Clooney stem cell line (assuming he were to consent to it)? I can see no objection. It is no more wrong to choose the genes of your child than your reproductive partner. Indeed, we have always sought to do both, choosing our partners on the basis of our – sometimes erroneous – belief about the sort of children likely to result. I see nothing wrong with people exercising that choice using the technology as it becomes available.

If it is not wrong to wish for a bouncing brown-eyed baby girl, why would it become wrong once we had the technology to play Fairy Godmother to ourselves and grant our own wish?

If the researchers have done what they claim to have done, this is an important advance. It will mean that no man in the future will need to regard himself as infertile and for many men that will be very liberating. I cannot see a downside to research that increases the range of human possibility and choice.

But that depends on the process being practical and safe. First we have to be sure that genuine sperm have been created and that they are healthy and viable and won't cause the death of the embryo or unacceptable defects. In previous work from this group on mice, the baby mice produced died early. Safety is going to be a key factor.

This is true of all reproductive technologies. It was true of the first attempts at IVF. It is also true of normal human sexual reproduction, which has an 80 per cent failure rate (to produce a pregnancy). If sexual reproduction were introduced today it would never get a licence – the failure rate is too high.

A general feature of reproductive technologies is that they are more perfectable than normal sexual reproduction so it is possible eventually to achieve a higher success rate and a lower abnormality rate. You will be able through refinement and research to examine the sperm and eggs and embryo before implantation in a way that you can't do in normal sexual reproduction. Some of these techniques are already safer than sexual reproduction.

The real ethical issue here is that we do not foreclose the beneficial possibilities of research through prejudice or fear. We need to ensure that the science can continue and that we remain receptive to, but critical of, the opportunities it affords.

John Harris is professor of bioethics at The University of Manchester and editor-in-chief of the 'Journal of Medical Ethics'

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Look on the bright side
[info]mackname wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 04:46 am (UTC)

We might have eventually a new mutant who/which has no sex and no requirement for sexual reproduction activities or specifications; physically or mentally.

It calls for celebration as there would be no "gender differences' and the whole problems related to this matter would be resolved (obsoleted) forever.
Ethical-smethical
[info]had_it wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 07:15 am (UTC)
Potential parents have my permission to do as they like with IVF and sperm replacement - just not on my money, please.
Neil gardner
[info]outsidergaia wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 07:52 am (UTC)
Is this the same John Harris who thinks we should all __benefit__ from amphetamines and/or statins (known to cause amnesia and depression). If the said individual does not __benefit__ from substantial financial rewards from the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industry, then I'd have to doubt his sanity.
Why should we accept lectures from these so-called experts, apparently blind to the consequences of their total moral corruption. I support his right to free speech, but why is the Independent providing a platform for such extremist views and why are we, as tax payers, subsidising such bias.
Whenever you read anything written by John Harris, alarm bells should ring. Brave New World. Just replace Soma with Ritalian and Prozac, celebrity worship, cloning, dumbing down of the masses through the entertainment industry and scant regard for the human life of those of us unable to emulate the physical perfection that cosmetic surgery and biotechnology can bring.
If humanity means anything, it means accepting who we are and caring for our own. Get rid of the likes of __John Harris__ before it's too late. You have been warned. These people are a much greater threat than yesteryear's Neo-Nazis for they usher in a new age of eugenics and mind control.
A World Without Men
[info]udang_merah wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 08:26 am (UTC)
As a former fellow academic in the biological sciences, I am surprised by your comments. The human species needs a diverse gene pool (both male and female) in order to maintain a healthy population that has the capacity to meet new evolutionary challenges, even if we as a species seem hell-bent on destroying ourselves. I am sorry to say that your comments do not make much sense in evolutionary terms. Whilst I accept that human evolution is to some extent, perhaps even to a large extent, limited by our own "modern", "developed" and "controlled" society, survival of the fittest seems to have been undermined in favour of survival of the unfittest. This comment should not be misunderstood to mean that I advocate that those who are less fit should not be supported by our society, far from it, I am merely suggesting that maintenance of diversity in the male and female gene pool essential if we are to face new biological challenges, especially those which we have directly or indirectly created ourselves.
masculinity drain
[info]mandimetameme wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 09:19 am (UTC)
love the sperm replication. A wonderful bit of science play, promising all sorts of fun & games.

didn't get the "threat to manhood" panic reaction at all. indicative that this appears. there is no correlating female panic.

reveals an archaic patriarchal architecture in the modern liberal mind

ta fa the insight

mand

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Parental urge
[info]bevfor wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 09:34 am (UTC)
If people truly wish to be parents why don't they adopt the desperate children rotting in our woeful carehomes? Why are we financing vanity breeding?
Men are luxuries
[info]forgawdssake wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 10:28 am (UTC)
If men are not necessary I assume that now means they are luxury items.

If so, they should attract Value Added Tax at the standard rate.
Evil elitism
[info]lamouche wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 10:44 am (UTC)
The is an example of an evil form of elitism at its worst. It is unimaginably mand-boggling to think that when we are faced with a multitude of problems that threaten our very survival, the survival of the planet itself, and the quality of life for millions, precious resources are being syphoned to eletist projects like these that may actually make our precarious position worse in the longrun. There is definately a desperate need for change in the way people think. Laws should be passed to make such projects illegal, and incentives should be given to those that develop projects that benefit us all, or that enhance the quality of life for the most needy.
Daft as a brush
[info]billdavy1949 wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 10:46 am (UTC)
"It is no more wrong to choose the genes of your child than your reproductive partner"

He may think that, but saying it does not make it true.

Perhaps he did not listen to the Reith lecturer arguing, cogently I thought, the opposite view, giving three reasons.

This man/article undermines society and is shameful.
Men redundant
[info]thorntongate wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 11:55 am (UTC)
Not just yet, accordinng to one splendid piece of a graffiti which I read some years ago:

"God invented men because vibrators can't mow the lawn."

My wife tells me she is perfectly capable of mowing the lawn, so that's it guys: we're toast.
Re: Men redundant
[info]colinru wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 02:29 pm (UTC)
Yes but can she wire an electric plug (never mind put up shelving units)?
Re: Men redundant
[info]dnmurphy wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 05:40 pm (UTC)
Be grateful, you can sit on the couch drinking beer while she does paid work, does housework and does the gardening.

Anyway, women have one need that requires men. Women require all kinds of emotional stimulation including getting annoyed, and only men have that special way of annoying them that leads to full emotional satisfaction.
Women do not need Men
[info]colinru wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 02:31 pm (UTC)
Mr Harris seems not to have kept up with all the social science research that shows children (especially boys) benefit in almost every way from having a Father about the place to show them how to be a Man.
What about the diseases stem cells were supposed to cure?
[info]big_dee53 wrote:
Wednesday, 8 July 2009 at 02:33 pm (UTC)
All the ballyhoo, brouhaha and campaigning for research into embryonic stem cells touted the end of the tragic consequences of sad accidents like Chistopher Reeve's; the end of Down's Syndrome and other genetic abnormalities; new and healthy body parts for transplants; repair of broken nerve channels; repair of brain damage; etc, etc.

What do we get? Some wiggly sperm cells.
What about the miracle cures promised to the gullible who believed them? Do these guys not feel a little embarrassed?

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