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Matthew Norman: Bottom of the class, Mr Lammy

The higher education minister displays a psychosis-inducing complacency

Before we begin, a pre-emptive disclaimer. Please accept that I pose the ensuing quartet of questions with no intention to insult you. As Independent readers, you are le crème de la crème of the intelligentsia. I know you know the answers, and ask them solely because of the light they cast on the quality of those who rule us.

Right, here we go. 1) What was the married name of the scientists Marie and Pierre who won the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1903 for their research into radiation? 2) Which fortress was built in the 1370s to defend one of the gates of Paris, and was later used as a state prison by Cardinal Richelieu? 3) Who succeeded to the English throne aged nine on the death of his father Henry VIII in 1547? And 4) Which country's Rose Revolution of 2003 led to the resignation of President Edward Shevardnadze?

John Humphrys put these and others to higher education minister David Lammy, star of Tuesday's Today programme, on Celebrity Mastermind last December. How I resisted the ague of stupefaction the answers induced long enough to press the record button is a mystery. Raw courage, I guess. But thank God I did, because this general knowledge round is a godsend. Whether the performance of Mr Lammy, who cites "curiosity" among his likes, is sensible cause for jollity is for you to judge, but in a perverse way it cheers me up whenever the melancholy strikes.

All right, enough suspense. Here are Mr Lammy's answers. 1) Antoinette. The Nobel physics Laureates of 1903 were, according to our advanced learning supremo, Pierre and Marie Antoinette. If that seems a Curie-ous reply, stand by for 2). Versailles. Quite a swanky jail in which to await the guillotine, even by French revolutionary standards, but there it is.

Bastille our beating hearts, though, for here comes 3). Henry VII. Henry VIII was succeeded on the throne, by way of a tear in the fabric of space-time, not by his son Edward VI but his late sire. Mr Lammy shook his head despairingly at that one, but showed no remorse for 4). The country of which Mr Shevardnadze ceased to be president in 2003 was, he told us, having taken advantage of the extra thinking time gifted by the end-of-round beeps, Yugoslavia.

Now making every allowance for nerves caused by the black chair, we'll write off Antoinette as a slip of the tongue, and try to forget Versailles and the time-travelling Henry VII. Any residual stores of charity are drained, however, by 4). How could a minister of state, for higher education or paperclips, be unaware that Yugoslavia dissolved in the early 1990s? By what savage irony did he imagine that Europe's most vicious warfare since 1945 could be styled the "Rose Revolution"? How did that major global figure Shevardnadze, whose name could only come from Georgia (the former Soviet state, Mr L; not the one on Ray Charles's mind), pass him by?

If it seems incredible, it is all the more so because Mr Lammy has a Masters in law from Harvard, alma mater of President Obama with whom he claims friendship. Can any of us have such a stellar qualification and tend, to put it generously, towards the dim?

Yes we can, judging by Tuesday's Today interview. Although a presumably sated Mr Humphrys didn't conduct it, he was a Lammy to the slaughter all the same as an heroically patient Sarah Montague teased from him a performance to provoke the heavily tranquilised Zen master known to brother monks as "Old Softie" into pummelling the wall until the knuckles gushed blood.

Did the minister accept the argument of our universities, who have floated the idea of raising annual tuition fees to £5,000, that they need more money? "Well, I think the universities have done a piece of work which is about scenarios... within that piece of work... actually one of the scenarios is that it remains the same," he said. "The universities are rightly preparing for an independent review..."

But do you agree, asked Sarah, with the basic premise that they need more cash? "Look, I don't want to get into what will rightly be the scenarios when we begin the independent review. But I would say..." Yes but forget the review, she interrupted as exasperation finally began to flirt with her larynx, do you agree they need more money?

"Look," said Mr Lammy, understandably irritated himself now at being expected, as minister for higher education, to have an opinion about higher education, "it's a bit like asking a farmer whether he needs more land." Answers on the traditional postcard, please, you cryptographers out there. In the absence of the Enigma machine, Mr Lammy's Agrarian Code remains uncrackable to me.

He then accused Ms Monatague of pursuing him on the point not on behalf of school pupils who might want a steer as to whether they'll be able to afford the higher of education for which, lest I forgot to mention this, he is minister; but rather in a cynical BBC hunt for "banner headlines". Even by the standards of Mrs Bottomley in the dog days of Major, even compared to the "I've already been very clear..." obfuscatory gibberish spewed by Hazel Blears herself, this was a display of psychosis-inducing obtuseness and complacency. I'd call it a calculated insult to the public's intelligence, of the sort disclaimed above, but it's hard to accuse someone who answered "Henry VII" to 3) of being able to calculate anything at all.

How did it come to this? How did this country come to be governed by people whose knowledge of everything from fourth-form history to popular culture, sport and even cheese (the blue variety served with port, he posited, is Red Leicester) verges on the non-existent?

So many questions, so few answers. If whether higher education needs more funding or not is yet another to stump David Lammy, so be it. It's in excellent company. But if our universities should shortly join every other once-revered British institution on the one-way journey past the U-bend, we should be able to make a fair old stab at answering why.

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Lammy
[info]nick_ashley1 wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 11:11 am (UTC)
They always say in Law "ignorance is no defense". Nor is it here. I presume this individual had the best education money can buy or went through the state education system. Both obviously failed regarding some rather basic general knowledge. It is very disconcerting to have people who seek to have power over our lives who can display such appalling ignorance. Not to menton of course not answering a basic question re universities and money. We all know they are permanently strapped for cash. Research is expensive. Let them set their fees according to the market. Those universities of value will propsper. Those which are poor will go under. It really can be that simple.
Oh for a minister who will actually be brave enough to answer a simple question. Yes or no will do.
unbelievable
[info]megamurph wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 12:09 pm (UTC)
Ironically, this morning's Today programme also reduced our entire household to stupified bewilderment as someone called Sion Simon, who is apparantly the Minister for Further Education, (sic) left us open mouthed at the sheer pathetic dumbness of his answers on the debacle that is the funding of the rebuilding of further eduction colleges. Again and again Sara Montegue sought to get from him his views about what had happened, and what should happen next, only to get in response witterings about it all being the fault of something to do with some quango for which yes, he had responsibility, but he had set up some sort of enquiry which was going to tell him what to think and he didn't want to say anything until it had done so.
What really stunned us was the sheer ignorant weakness of someone who is supposed to be running the country. Is it me or do those in charge of the rest of us seem to have the intellectual and strategic competance of those telephone sanitizers in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy who were sent on "ahead" to resettle a new planet with the rest of humanity following on "later"? Now there's an idea......
Lammy on Mastermind
[info]paum wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 12:51 pm (UTC)
I saw this, hilarious!! For the record, I am the proud possessor of one solitary GCSE (gained aged 40!) having left school at 15 with not a single qualification to my name, nonetheless I managed to get the majority of Lammy's questions right and I didn't make a complete T*T of myself on the others either! The man's a disgrace.
Ignorance of MPs
[info]bill_dixon wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 01:06 pm (UTC)
David Lammy has shown himself to be deeply ignorant of history, but so are most MPs, including his hero, Tony Blair. Blair declared that we entered the Second World War to save the Jews from persecution, in the same way that he and Bush invaded Iraq to protect the Kurds. Oh, and to save us from impending obliteration by Saddam's WMD of course.

Lammy has a masters degree from Harvard. Like Blair, David Cameron and George Osborne, Sion Simon was at Oxford. It's hard to know what that says about the standards at these hallowed universities.
Lammy
[info]newsed1 wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 04:15 pm (UTC)
I suspect Lammy went to a state school and had non-graduate parents - like the majority of the population, if not the majority of Independent readers. As for 'forth form history'...the fourth form where? My comp did not indulge in sequential history, choosing, instead, to pursue 'empathy' and topic-based History such as 'The Long March' and 'The History of Medicine'.

That an ordinary working class inner city kid gets into government and surprises you with his lack of what your class seems to regard as 'general knowledge' says more about the middle class media than it does about Lammy. He is the norm, not you and your readers.

And I speak as a Tory voter with two degrees in an engineering/design discipline. More emphasis on educating people for manufacturing and marketable innovation, rather than for endless cultural referencing, would have left this country in a better place.
Re: Lammy
[info]red_lenin wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 05:08 pm (UTC)
I find it bizarre you think that it's 'middleclass' to know the answers to thise questions. I was raised on a council estate on the outskirts of Chester and left school at 16 in 1974 with 3 'O' levels and a handful of CSE's. I can still do long division, long multiplication and can work out basic fractions and percentages in my head. I still understand the Periodic Table, recessive and dominant genes, know all the Kings & Queens of England back to the Dark Ages and even know why the Dark Ages were 'dark'. I know all the planets in the Solar System in the coprrect sequence along with their relevant 'moons'
Re: Lammy
[info]newsed1 wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 10:49 pm (UTC)
Lenin - read my post. First conventional sequential history was - erm - history by the end of the 70s in most state schools. Moreover, why would we need to know this stuff? Lammy may be useless in any case, but middle class general knowledge is no indicator of anything much outside of upmarket pub quizzes and middle class dinner parties.
Re: Lammy
[info]ranterparadise wrote:
Friday, 20 March 2009 at 10:33 am (UTC)
Are you MAD??

David Lammy went to Harvard???

He's not "innercity working class"??

He's rich! He's middle clas!

WTF?
Agreed
[info]fiddlestiques wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 09:08 pm (UTC)
We watched with incredulity on BBC news as he condescendingly obfuscated his way through all of the education funding questions with a patronising smile. No wonder politicians are so detested. Slimy b'stards the lot of them.

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