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Tony Blair: Without God's Truth at its centre, no community can fulfil its potential

The limits to individualism are in one sense plain. We only need to contemplate the financial crisis to understand that the pursuit of maximum short-term profit, without proper regard to the communal good, is a mistake and leads to neither profit nor good. Yet, at a deeper level, the case against a purely individualistic or materialistic philosophy has to be made. Young people today have access to technology, to opportunity, to experiences good and bad on a scale my generation never knew and my father's generation would find fantastical, like something out of science fiction.

The danger is clear: that pursuit of pleasure becomes an end in itself. It is here that faith can step in, can show us a proper sense of duty to others, responsibility for the world around us, and can lead us to, as the Holy Father calls it, caritas in veritate.

After the experience of fascism, Soviet Communism or viewing life in North Korea or the cultural revolution in China, it is easier for us to grasp the dangers of a too-powerful state.

But I would argue that even the concept of community has its limitations. We use the word in two senses: one to distinguish it from government, to emphasise civic society if you like; the other sense is just to describe the general community of public opinion. In politics, of course, especially in a democracy, "the people" are the boss; public opinion is to be courted and if not surrendered to, as least managed.

It is here that Faith enlarges and enriches the idea of community. The recent Papal Encyclical is a remarkable document in many respects. It repays reading and re-reading. But one strand throughout it is a strong rejoinder to the notion of relativism, to the description of the human condition in society as just some amoral negotiation or set of compromises with modernity; or even just obedience to the majority opinion. Not that it is anti-technology or anti-modern; or indeed anti-democratic. But it widens and deepens the relationship between individuals and the community in which they live. It puts God's Truth at the centre of it. In one passage, it describes humanism devoid of faith as "inhuman humanism": "Without God, man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is."

This is an extract from a speech given to the Communion and Liberation meeting in Rimini, Italy, last week

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Tony Blair
[info]bose99 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 01:25 am (UTC)
Oh dear!! A lecture from Tony Blair. And how much truth was there during his tenure in office? or since?) And this ..." public opinion is to be courted and if not surrendered to, as least managed." He did a wonderful job in that area..it is called "spin-doctoring".
Re: Tony Blair
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 03:56 am (UTC)
THEY WANT TO KISS YOUR A*** BECOME MINISTER STEAL YOUR MONY GO AWAY FOR A LONG HOLIDAY TO BECOME HOLY AND WANT THE CHURCH TO FORGIVE THEM . WILL YOU???
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
Tony Blaire. WHO IS THIS CREEP? SEEING GHOSTS????
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 01:27 am (UTC)
This is an extract from a speech given to the Communion and Liberation meeting in Rimini, Italy, last week The danger is clear: that pursuit of pleasure becomes an end in itself. It is here that faith can step in, can show us a proper sense of duty to others, responsibility for the world around us, and can lead us to, as the Holy Father calls it, caritas in veritate.
After the experience of fascism, Soviet Communism or viewing life in North Korea or the cultural revolution in China, it is easier for us to grasp the dangers of a too-powerful state.
WE NEED YOU TO SEE HOW SHORT YOU HAVE BECOME? Are You fasting?
Mr. Balire please.
But Of course I dorealise after the little girl was found in the USA What are you doing about Iraq and the British people after dumping them broke? Mr Whosat
Let us amuse the mad man just say YES Sir...IT IS FREE....bananas
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla


Oh, come on ...
[info]journeyman01 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 03:29 am (UTC)
... you just have to love The Indy's sense of irony ...
Marvellous..
[info]gs_svejk wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 08:05 am (UTC)
Good choice of extract, Independent. Any chance of presenting a psychiatric profiling of this crusader? (Yep, I know we can all give a concise answer but it'd be interesting to see a professional diagnosis)
Death of Thatcherism !
[info]human_trafikker wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 09:20 am (UTC)
No mate - Good ole Tony brought it all back to life; so the banksters could shaft us all good and proper.

And now Tony is hearing voices; voices from above !

Soon he will be shafting us all; as the Promised Messiah.

Has the NHS run out of straight-jackets ?



A War Criminal given succour by the Cathoilc Church
[info]johnpedinburgh wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 09:34 am (UTC)
I find it offensive that this man is given a platform by Western Church Organizations to spout his claptrap. For heaven sake, he is a War Criminal guilty of heinous crimes.

Will the Catholic Church never learn. It shielded Nazis, Salazar, Franco and Pinochet
[info]bundubasher wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 09:57 am (UTC)
Mr Blair- two words

Shut Up.
[info]occamsghost wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 10:37 am (UTC)
Putting faith at the centre of a community is a method of control, not cohesion - there's a difference. Man was a social animal long before this sky pilot stuff came along.

Get stuffed, Tony.
[info]dnmurphy wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 04:07 pm (UTC)
I agree on all points. Our behaviours that make for a better society, such as altruism, all evolved and all can be seen to a greater or lesser extent in animals, especially chimps.

Religion has been an instrument of social control to which the Jews or the long slaughtered heretics such as the Albigensians could testify to.

Blair is displaying the same shallow, muddle-headedness he governed this country with.

I second the motion re 'Get stuffed, Tony Blair'.
Mr Blair's moral compass.
[info]sadoldfart wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 10:42 am (UTC)
To give a message like that (with which I broadly agree) you need unimpeachable moral integrity or you do more damage than good.

There are too many question marks over Mr Blair's. Furthermore he could have said this as PM, and he could have converted to Catholicism as PM. By doing so later he has given the impression that "This stuff is all right but not for practical politicians"

I hope people will not take this a comment on Mr Blair's personal faith journey where I wouldn't dream of commenting.
Tony Blair and God's choice
[info]juliandbsmith wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 11:22 am (UTC)

Which God? your God, my God, or Tony's God? Are we to listen to the crazy voices in the night, whispers from among the sand dunes or the thundering from the pulpit of self obsessed semi-senile control freaks?

The bizarre creations of young artists and writers become precious artifacts protected in galleries and museums. The scribblings of semi-psychotic visionaries become the formalised and breaucratic "truthes" by which we must all live!

Again and again mendacious politicians and assorted control freaks, hands dipped in blood from past mistakes and misdeeds have the gall to preach, and always in reference to divine authority whilst living in wealth and power.
Truth
[info]bobbellinhell wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 11:29 am (UTC)
Tony Blair is lecturing us about truth. Reality has once again overtaken satire. If only this concern for truth had been apparent during the runup to the invasion of Iraq, or when he was secretly planning to hand schools, hospitals and social services over to groups of religious fanatics. The WTC attacks were carried out by people who believed in 'god's truth', the invasion of Iraq was planned by people who believed in 'god's truth', Guantanamo was set up by people who believed in 'god's truth'.
Hypocrite
[info]berwick53 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 02:08 pm (UTC)
The crap eminating from this two faced liar, is bordering on the insane. He may have convinced himself that he is wonderful, but we know the truth.
Garbage
[info]brugnac wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 02:13 pm (UTC)
Total testes !!
St. Tony
[info]chas9999 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 05:36 pm (UTC)
It really is quite stomach-churning, isn't it?
Satan speaks
[info]robert_price wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 08:19 pm (UTC)
....do we have to listen to this evil corrupt liar, who betrayed this country for his own ends, and has killed mutlitudes of innocent people?

What is it that means nomatter what evil this man does, he still has the media giving him the opportunity to do more?
Aren't you...
[info]beenhadbefore wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 08:51 pm (UTC)
...that war criminal bloke?
Re: Aren't you...
[info]mike_input wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 08:59 am (UTC)
April Fool's Day again?
Tony Blair
[info]ai_laoshi wrote:
Friday, 4 September 2009 at 06:00 am (UTC)
Next time that the Independent has a empty space to fill, I suggest that they put it to better use than providing yet another publicity outlet for this conscience-free monster. Mr Blair may well have escaped legal censure for his many crimes at home and abroad, (but mostly abroad). But at least we can punish him by denying the man the public attention that he so obviously craves. While we are at it, if in due course Tony's mates choose to appoint (anoint?) him First President of Europe or Master of the Universe or, indeed, Lord High Everything Else, let's not waste column inches reporting such developments here. JUST IGNORE THE BLIGHTER.
Faith at the Center
[info]therationalfool wrote:
Friday, 11 September 2009 at 12:50 am (UTC)
"... the experience of fascism, Soviet Communism or viewing life in North Korea or the cultural revolution in China..."
Why stop with fascism and communism? How about the Spanish Inquisitions, Khomeini's Iran, Wahabi Saudi Arabia, and Taliban's Afghanistan? "God's Truth at the center" of auto-da-fé, death by stoning, beheading for apostasy, and honor killing? Humanism full of faith, indeed!
God Bless you Tony Blair
[info]oleamerican wrote:
Tuesday, 15 September 2009 at 01:14 pm (UTC)
Maybe Tony Blair has known all the time the British way of "not doing religion" was a mistake. It is a mistake here in the states as well. It is the folly of Political Correctness. We have kicked God out of the schools, our education system failed accordingly and suddenly we had the phenomenon of school shootings. We took the Ten Commandments and even the "Golden Rule" off the walls of Government buildings and schools. What is left is selfishness, a need for instant gratification and corruption in politics, the likes of which we have never seen in our lifetimes. Kick God out and you get unChristian-like comments like the ones listed here. Kick God out and you let hate in. You can have your liberal, let-anything-go attitudes, but the price we are paying today for giving up our Christian roots has opened the door for another religion to take over, one that is not so kind and forgiving. I am happy for Tony. I am happy he can at last declare his devotion to God. It is a good thing.

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