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Vincent Cable: This recession is very far from over

What we are seeing is an economists' and financiers' recovery rather than a real one

The mother of all economic crises seems mysteriously to have vanished in the face of a determined counter-offensive by the forces of optimism. There are daily accounts of returning confidence in financial and property markets and bodies like the National Institute of Economic and Social Research are forecasting an early return to growth. Perhaps those government ministers who spotted the "green shoots of recovery" in the frozen winter earth were not so deluded after all?

The truth is that there is enormous uncertainty. None of us know whether the recession will be mild and short, or deep and prolonged. What we do know is that there has been a massive policy response: near zero interest rates; credit expansion through quantitative easing; large government fiscal deficits; bank rescues; and a big devaluation.

The ideas represented by Milton Friedman and Keynes have been pooled and a combination of highly expansionary monetary and fiscal policy has been deployed. There has been an impact. The rate of economic decline has been slowed; the errors of the 1930s have been avoided; and the fears of Armageddon have lifted.

But this is an economists' and financiers' recovery rather than a real one: forward indicators and market expectations rather than facts on the ground. Unemployment is still rising steeply, especially among young people. The late summer will see a large cohort of unemployed graduates. Banks are continuing to restrict credit to solvent borrowers. Local small businesses with an exemplary credit history still come to my weekly advice surgery angry that banks are forcing them to the wall through unrealistic demands for higher security and fees. There is little sign too that heavily indebted consumers want to embark on a spending spree; or that business is contemplating investment beyond the rebuilding of stocks.

In framing the policy and political response to recovery – if that is what this is – we need to reflect on what we are recovering from. The optimists are treating the crisis like a bad dose of flu. It was frightening while temperatures raged at dangerous levels, but the fever is passing. As with the recessions of the 1980s and 1990s, we can expect to return to "normal".

This diagnosis is profoundly wrong. The patient has suffered a massive heart attack. Thanks to the wonders of modern economic medicine, the patient is improving remarkably rapidly in the Intensive Care Unit. But any suggestion of a return to "normality" is an invitation to another heart attack. There is now a long term legacy of weakness which we have to learn to live with.

One early challenge is phasing out the monetary steroids that kept the patient alive. There is now less fear of deflation – the world of falling prices, wages, output and employment. But deflation risk has not disappeared and there is the prospect of rising unemployment even when the recession is said to be "over". A greater risk is that overshooting from relaxed monetary policy will spill over into inflation. Rising oil prices are a reminder that any global recovery could translate quickly into commodity price inflation. There is a plausible scenario of prolonged stagflation in which recovery is aborted by anti-inflationary interest rate rises. If the Bank of England is to retain its independence, as it should, there is no easy resolution of this dilemma.

Politicians don't control interest rates. But they do have responsibility for the public finances. Here, the legacy issues are acute and likely to be long lasting. Already a debate has erupted around the "cuts" agenda: unusually puerile even by the standards of Westminster Punch and Judy. Mr 5 per cent vs. Mr 10 per cent. We have a government committed to real cuts in government consumption and savage cuts – a halving – of public investment posing as champions of public expenditure while the Conservatives, with the sketchiest of detail, want to cut more, sooner. A proper debate in the form of a Spending Review has just been shelved.

There is, in fact, much uncertainty concerning the size of a sustainable budget deficit: the "tipping point" at which government borrowing triggers a collapse of confidence in money markets. We know that somewhere ahead in the fog there is a steep cliff but not where it is. Even though the 40 per cent debt to GDP target has lapsed, government debt levels in relation to GDP, while increasing, are not exceptional by historic or comparative standards. But there is a nagging doubt in the markets about the sustainability of UK government borrowing (and therefore debt). Unlike the US government the UK cannot borrow abroad in its own currency and unlike the Japanese we do not have an army of small savers who want to lend patriotically to the government.

How then do governments respond rationally to a possible but unquantifiable event – a collapse of confidence? One objective basis for policy is the size of the "structural budget" deficit which will not correct itself as the economy recovers. Current estimates (they vary) are around 3 to 4 per cent of GDP. The public sector was allowed to expand on a revenue base – buoyant financial services and ever rising house prices – which was illusory. There will have to be realistic tax and spending plans to eliminate it. This requires a willingness to identify and cut substantial areas of long term government spending.

Making explicit choices is surely preferable to an approach that cuts services indiscriminately. That is why it is necessary to take on some sacred cows: public-sector pensions (ending defined benefit schemes for new entrants and raising contribution rates); tax credits (embracing 2m recipients with well over average incomes); defence (involving vast long-term commitments to maintaining a worldwide role); and higher education for half the population.

But a bigger question concerns the vast sums the Government pumped into the banking system (and even bigger guarantees). There is a danger now of a dash for cash: a quick sell off of public shares at give-away prices, leaving the taxpayer with a vast toxic pile of bank liabilities and with the banks and the City unreformed. In the Square Mile and the Treasury the dangerous idea is beginning to gather momentum that the crisis is over and that "normality" can soon be restored. Bonuses are back in fashion. Dangerous stuff. If a fresh heart attack is to be avoided in the financial sector, damaging the wider economy, a long period of regulated convalescence is required. The crisis is not over.

Vince Cable is the Liberal Democrat Shadow Chancellor and Deputy Leader

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Short memories?
[info]dumbganda wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 12:41 am (UTC)
Bit late Vince to be harping on about the massive debt nationalised from the banks and the return of massive bonuses when not so long ago you were the main cheerleader of nationalisation without close examination. Yes, by nationalising the failed banks, the UK had become one big failed banks, and yes the whole country now faces the same problem the failed banks faced, lack of creditors willing to keep funding the irresponsible management.
Re: Short memories?
[info]quietzapple wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 04:35 am (UTC)
Rubbish, HMG have not had problems funding borrowing.

If you worked for a firm which has had so much long term success as Uk has under Gordon Brown and Darling you would not trouble to query their management.

Ergo you have an agenda which is against the firm, possibly involving two multi millionaire former Bullingdon Club members whose party was bought out by billionaires a while back . . .
Re: Short memories?
[info]victormc wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 06:25 am (UTC)
Oh dear quietzapple, I have to repeat your word 'rubbish' look at yesterday and today at how your Government cannot sell it's 'gilts' (borrowing debt) without some serious assistance from other banks.
Whilst the neo-lunatic spending of your heroes goes on daily this problem will get worse and worse - they are printing money mate to pay for their long term lunacy and your dream world. Inflation is on it's way back. With a world glut of oil thousands of tankers laying off ports worldwide unable to sell their cargo, production heavily reduced to screw you and me and all of us - how much are you paying for petrol today?
These are the crucial matters in the real world as Mr. Cable says.
Re: Short memories?
[info]quietzapple wrote:
Sunday, 21 June 2009 at 02:54 pm (UTC)
11 years' growth, and they are selling the guilts, ever so sorry for you tory trolls . .

heheh!
Re: Short memories?
[info]dumbganda wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 08:32 am (UTC)
Rubbish a the right term Gordon Brown treats our tax money. Vince Cable praised the NHS the other day, particularly with regard to one hospital wing build by New Labour architect designed with doors which would not allow hospital beds or trolleys to go through. Now that is the best of the Soviet architects, and if you work for one of those firms which got their so called contracts from their working class brothers Brown and Darling, you have no problem. In fact, you and your boss are laughing all the way to the bank. The rest of the country in the real world may have a financial and health care hangover to deal with.
Re: Short memories?
[info]hodgeey wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 08:33 am (UTC)
No. We haven't nationalised the banks, the nation has been bankised.
Re: Short memories?
[info]recoverehh wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 01:20 pm (UTC)
The problem is that we have effectively nationalised the debt WITHOUT nationalising the banks. This means that the UK as a whole takes the risk of underwriting the debt without the reward if we actually manage to turn the banks around.

This means that the banks can continue to take large risks immune knowing that they will be bailed out by the public purse if they fail. Milton Friedmann should be proud of the results of his laisez faire economic policies.
Heart Attack?
[info]quietzapple wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 04:29 am (UTC)
Nope, a little blood poisoning from a binge with USA non recursive mortgage debt, and a lot of lack of confidence, some of it on the backs of the tendentious and self interested prognostications of Cable & Co. A crisis certainly, but the way ahead is not to suspend progress to await every reform in the pipeline.

The dangers to the UK now arise with consumer confidence abroad, where there will, understandably, be less confidence in recovery than there is here.

Cable's cuts sound like a Tory disaster, funny that.

http://www.ifs.org.uk/bns/bn26.pdf (For those who have had a nasty letter from a credit ref agency and think the Uk shouldn't Borrow)
Short Memories
[info]49niner wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 04:57 am (UTC)
How short some people's memories are in the age of 24 hour rolling news.

As ever, Vince Cable gives us all pause for thought. Are we really going to act under the illusion that last autumn was all a bad dream that's now gone away? If we return to unregulated banking, runaway house price inflation and unsustainable consumer debt, we'll have learned nothing. The next "heart attack" would surely be fatal for the British economy.

This crisis proved that our economy was unbalanced and built on quicksand. Many parts of the country have been in recession since the early 1980s, my own region of the north-east being a prime example. I'll believe in any "recovery" when my region sees a part of it.

"Business as usual" is not an option. Vince Cable is right. We still have a long way to go before the economy recovers prperly anywhere in this country.
[info]mykleboon wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 06:17 am (UTC)
As usual, an excellent contribution from VC - and, no, I don't vote for him, but only because I think that he is in the wrong party!

One small comment. It is not the size of any person's or government's debt that causes a loss of confidence but its rate of increase. If you have long had an enormous, but stable, debt, then you have obviously been able to service it. Only if something significant has changed do your creditors have any reasonable cause for alarm. If, on the other hand, your debt is increasing rapidly, (even if from a low base), then something obviously is changing - in fact you are, in effect, borrowing to service your debts! Clearly, creditors want to see how you are going to get yourself back in balance so that you can service your debts out of income - at least on a current account basis. Otherwise they will lose confidence.
In the instant case the "creditor" is the poor, the pensioner and the next generation burdened
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 11:06 am (UTC)
by the product of red hot printing presses. That creditor wants and will want to know :
a) why spending on corporate welfare wars, pols' personal pension plan investments in things like Trident, and direct dole to organised economic crime syndicate and dead wood car companies etcetera, wasn't halted and where possible clawed back by confiscation of assets;
b) why available resources were not invested in infrastructure and education.
Pols et cronies are crowing about what is known in various trades as a 'dead cat bounce'
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 06:47 am (UTC)
or noise on a downtrend line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8
Appearances
[info]libertyandtruth wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 09:18 am (UTC)
This government is trying to give the appearance that the economy is on its way out of recession in order to buoy up public confidence because of the election in less than a year's time.

Many have lost their jobs, many more will lose their jobs and taxes will increase. The public will not start spending again until they can be sure that they will have a secure income. Companies in trouble will not be helped by this lack of spending and investment will not flow into the country with this awful government still in power.

Brown's refusal to cut spending in any meaningful way is harming not helping the economy. He should go now.
It's Vince. It must be so.
[info]mus_sylvaticus wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 11:09 am (UTC)
Correct as ever. This recession has been marked from the start by widespread talking down -- but simply saying over and over that things have bottomed out doesn't mean it's true. Whilst businesses are still going to the wall and people are losing their jobs and their homes, the recovery ain't happening.

What depresses me most about it is the notion that we even *want* to return to "normal". "Normal" was what caused the problem in the first place: in a globalised economy the relentless pursuit of growth simply isn't sustainable. We should have used this crash as an opportunity to reassess the kind of global society we want to live in.

In any case there are much bigger fish to fry. The rapid mobilisation of finances to rescue the banks and institutions from themselves has been all the more sickening against the light of inaction in tackling climate change.

The patient needs a heart transplant, now.
Re: It's Vince. It must be so.
[info]mosxu wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 01:17 pm (UTC)
Why is only Vince Cable telling the truth out of all politicians?
Re: It's Vince. It must be so.
[info]quietzapple wrote:
Saturday, 20 June 2009 at 10:43 am (UTC)
How silly, why not use your brains instead of looking for a political Messiah?
[info]dnmurphy wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 05:01 pm (UTC)
"Banks are continuing to restrict credit to solvent borrowers."
One would hope this will always be the case, and its a failure to do this helped bring about the credit crunch in the first place.

"A proper debate in the form of a Spending Review has just been shelved"

You people are all so desperate for power there wont be a proper debate it will just be cliches and slogans to try and denigrate the other. There will be no attempt to honestly set out their stalls for us to see.

I would like each party to set out its approach to spending in the next five years and not to mention the spending . cutting plans of the other side. If we have an honest display of fact and honest open debate, we are capable of doing the necessary suns. Maybe some of you would remember that while you are busily trashing each other.

"here will have to be realistic tax and spending plans to eliminate it. This requires a willingness to identify and cut substantial areas of long term government spending."

yes, we all kinda guessed that. What are your plans or planned approach?
[info]dumbganda wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 06:00 pm (UTC)
Vince Cable is said by the BBC and its media to be an economist, and so he applies his economics to the truth. No banks do not engage in restrictive banking. It is more like banking as it should be, based on sound collateral, character, realistic cashflow, capital. The sublimal message from Cable & Co is we should go back to the level of lending aka 2007, as Gordon Brown and Alaister Darling repeatedly demand, which means 120% loan on assets with no cash flow, to mortgagor with no income, jobs or any assets.
Vince Cable is one of the real economists, with the truth, like Gordon.
Boom to bust
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 06:35 pm (UTC)
I'm sure that boorish oaf promised us we would never see it again but we go from one to the other on a day to day basis - today's news economic recovery, tomorrow's news remember the recession, well it never really went away. Great news for the government - an economic recovery twice a week makes it look like they are doing well and takes peoples minds off the more embarrassing things, like Alistair Darling's eyebrows. I think we should be reasonably certain for the next year to two that despite what the medias vast cadre of experts and amateur hacks will come out with that nothing has changed much, unless of course you work somewhere in the upper tiers of the banking system where you will no longer be threatened with losing any combination of your job, bonus and pension. In the real world nothing has changed except you probably face an increased chance of losing your job, not getting a bonus again and pension not adding up to a hill of beans.
The government still has not made any serious attempt to curb its spending. Last year when the recession first hit people chose to put off the new car for another year or two, but the government still presses ahead with its unnecessary and unwanted vanity projects like the Trident replacement and ID cards (I guess its too late to do anything about the black hole sucking in money that is the Olympics). A massive cull of quangos could reap billions in savings. Billions saved means the less billions you have to borrow, you may end up living within your means.
Re: Boom to bust
[info]quietzapple wrote:
Saturday, 20 June 2009 at 10:44 am (UTC)
Boorish oaf, such self promotion, why we can see your gums with your tongue lolling like that!

The Cowboy Age
[info]swiftlady13 wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:54 am (UTC)
Vince thank you for yet another calm, accurate analysis.

The most important issues facing us today in Britain are
1) the regulation of the banks, splitting them into two sectors - utility banking and international risk investment (Vince's agenda).
I have commented on today's Leader to point out that if banks are not regulated we will have another crash that wuill maky this one look tiny, because it'll crash on top of an already weakened base. There will also be very little or no Government capacity to borrow in order to do another bail out.

Since Darling is currently fudging bank regulastion the prospects are dire.

2) The second major issue facing us is the database state - this is not unconnected.
There is nothing clearly stated in the current central database proposals to protect us from having our detailed and centralised personal records sold to commercial interests.
Given the record of banks and commercial companies on how they deal with ordinary people's vulnerabilities again the prospect is dire.

We have increasingly become trained to be cows, financial cows, herded and milked by powerful cowboys. This is the new age, not the industrial age, not the information age, but the Cowboy Age.

Moo.

I don't know what Vince's strategy is around the election. I hope it's to negotiate a Coalition Government so he can be Chancellor.
In which case DO NOT vote Tory. Labour will get few votes so all we need do is avoid a Tory triumph and the LibDems will be able to strike a deal with one or the other main party.

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