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How a midweek tie turned into a 'scene from hell'

Police accused of ignoring website posts arranging clashes that saw fan stabbed

By Cahal Milmo and Jonathan Brown

A man hit by a bottle during running battles close to Upton Park receives treatment from medical staff

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A man hit by a bottle during running battles close to Upton Park receives treatment from medical staff

Shoaib Akhtar realised West Ham's match against Millwall was going to be a night to remember – for the worst reasons – when he looked out of his kebab shop window and saw a bloodied fan uprooting a concrete bollard to hurl into a crowd of screaming rivals.

What started as a normal, midweek Carling Cup tie, with Hammers supporters crowding into the take-away 500 metres from the Boleyn Ground before kick-off, had within 10 minutes become what one witness described as a "scene from hell". "These guys looked and behaved like they wanted to kill each other," he added.

The rampage outside Upton Park Tube station on Green Street, the multicultural thoroughfare that leads to the stadium, was merely the opening salvo in nearly six hours of violence inside and outside the ground on Tuesday night. It drew comparisons with the football hooliganism of the 1970s and 1980s, and yesterday prompted allegations that police and officials had dropped their guard for a pre-arranged clash between two sets of fans with a century-long history of mutual hatred and drink-fuelled barbarity.

With broken glass and pieces of brick still littering the street, Mr Akhtar, 37, said: "It was like someone fired a starting pistol. They were just animals."

Scotland Yard said it was using a specialist team to identify from CCTV footage the perpetrators of the clashes inside and outside the ground. The Football Association promised life bans for anyone involved.

Messages left on websites and chatrooms, apparently by members of notorious hooligan "firms" associated with the two clubs, showed that the tie had been identified as an opportunity for a showdown between the rival groups, whose teams are separated by two divisions and last played each other in 2005. One message advised: "Make sure you bring your bats and don't bring your kids."

Another message posted on Monday on the West Ham fans forum, Bubble Blowers, laid out plans to rendezvous with a hard core of the 2,300-strong Millwall contingent, saying: "Heartfelt message to all concerned. PLEASE be in the right place at the right time tomorrow. No fucking excuses. We can all hang our head in shame if we let any of those cunts even think they can take liberties."

Video: Clash mars London tie

Senior police admitted they were aware of plans for a brawl but insisted they were adequately prepared for the match, which was designated "category five", with the highest risk of hooliganism. Chief Superintendent Steve Wisbey, the officer in charge of policing the game, said the violence was limited to a small number of supporters.

But witnesses found this difficult to square with the events that ultimately required the presence of more than 700 riot police, and whose aftermath left one man stabbed in the chest, 13 people arrested and dozens of fans bloodied and bruised. Among those treated at the scene was a man who was hit in the head with a dart. After the initial skirmish outside the Tube station, splinter groups of supporters roamed surrounding streets looking for a confrontation as the match was being played. A 43-year-old man, reportedly an innocent bystander, was in a stable condition in hospital last night after he was knifed in the chest during these clashes.

In a statement on their official website, West Ham said they were investigating the "appalling events" at the Boleyn Ground to ensure appropriate was action taken as swiftly as possible, with life bans for anyone behind the disturbances. The chief executive, Scott Duxbury, said: "We will leave no stone unturned in identifying the perpetrators, rooting them out and then taking the proper action. The vast majority of people at the game were law-abiding, loyal football fans and a small minority spoiled it for everyone. They will not be allowed to succeed."

But his words fell on deaf ears among some of those involved. Jonny, a Millwall supporter who said he saw the violence but did not take part, told The Independent: "I'm delighted. The best thing that came out of last night was the reignition of the hatred between us. Shame it can't be like that every week."

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Auto cull
[info]comradekaff wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 05:03 am (UTC)

Society doesn't need this white trash rabble, let them auto cull I say.
Rabble
[info]bumpyrab wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 07:08 am (UTC)
If these people wish to fight amongst themselves and injure each other, let them get on with it.
Why should the Police be diverted away from more important tasks to deal with this rabble ? Same with the great unwashed at the so called " climate change " camp.
Wasters.
Safety Valve
[info]humble_sparrow wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 07:14 am (UTC)
Secretly the police, the government and I am sure social anthropologists see this type of violence as an important safety valve for our underlying aggressive society and the letting go of tribal instincts that exist in all of us.

At least it is just about football and nothing else.

Why be so shocked, England has a long history of rioting going back to the middle ages ?

Not that it is right that bare-chested thugs should roam the streets with all that raw unmitigated violence.

And of course should be brought before the courts.

Just an explanation not a justification.
[info]doug_piranha wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 08:14 am (UTC)
are you sttiing comfortably - yes I am sure you are.

They do not fight "amongst themselves" - what a quaint middle class view you all have.
They don't all get into a boxing ring and slug it out.

They attack groups of supporters of the other team - regardless of what the other fans are doing.
They throw bricks and bottles and they really don;t care who gets hit.
They smash shops and cars - so it isn't a little bit of "fisticuffs between the chaps".

These are neanderthals - knuckles dragging along the ground - communicating with grunts
and swear words - with no respect for others.

humble_sparrow - talks about a history of rioting.

All the riots I have ever read about - before football ritos - were for political and social causes, broadly, poor people demanding an improvement in their life. Many of those can be shown to
be caused by troops showing excessive aggression. It was not considered"right" for the lower classes
to demand any change in society.

Any apologist who thinks the police cause the riots is a mendacious fool.
The police hold back far too much - what is the point of getting dressed like a
Hollywood film SWAT team - and then standing a long way awya from the "action" ?


The police hold back far too much
[info]humble_sparrow wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 08:53 am (UTC)
The police are damned no matter what they do, all they can do is contain the situation. The mob would become even more enraged if the police went in all 'knuckle duster' and that's what this type of mob enjoy most anyway.

Not that I really know anything about having to confront or deal with such violence.

Apparently there is a social history that surrounds these riots.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/a-rivalry-that-dates-back-to-the-heyday-of-british-shipbuilding-1777732.html

Not a justification just an explanation.
green st
[info]lifeglugga wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 08:32 am (UTC)
anyone seen a terrible film called Green St, designed for an american audience, glorifying football violence and idiots pouring beer on each other in pubs. I expect it is partly to blame, as it concentrates on W. Ham and Millwall firms. Pathetic excuses for entertainment such as this should not made in the first place. These lesser fortunates probably think they are potential hollywood stars now. How very sad.
Re: green st
[info]cjdobs wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 09:10 am (UTC)
Lifeglugga - whilst I agree with you its a terrible film, you've still got it the wrong way round. The film is not being imitated by fans, rather the film tried to imitate reality but did glorify it in its own way. West Ham and Millwall have been rutting antlers like this for years before Elijah Wood stepped into the role.

To the knuckle draggers who think hitting people with bricks is entertainment, then the film was laughable. Look at 'Jonnys comments above, obviously a moron who thinks 'hatred' is cool - so this is level you're dealing with. Pond life.
[info]lady_icedragon wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 08:33 am (UTC)
When there's a political demonstration (Climate camp, G20 etc.), the police are co-ordinated, far too numerous, and prepared to deal with violence (unnecessarily so).

But for football violence, they are woefully under-prepared.

I think they're "policing" the wrong people.
Close down the football clubs
[info]iddewes wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 08:34 am (UTC)
Why not suspend Millwall and West Ham football clubs? Take them out of the league for a while? Both clubs are well known for having violent supporters. Even I know that and I don't follow football.
Rabble
[info]chelsnow wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 09:05 am (UTC)
I thought these hooligans who feel they must smash up other people to make them feel they matter were the biggest idiots there could be but then I read Rabble comparing climate change protestors to these lowlifes and realised how wrong I was.
Seriously...
[info]jmcc76 wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 09:26 am (UTC)
I love my sport be it Rugby, Cricket or Football, and I am as passionate as much as the next man about my chosen teams and the inevitable rivalries.

However, it is just a game. Maybe its because I am a rugby man at heart, but I have never felt the urge to beat the crap out of someone becuause of the colour of their shirt. I am a Welshman, where there is a huge parocial attitude to team support, Ospreys v Lllanelli, Wales v England, Wales v NZ in the rugby is a war - on the pitch and with the banter - not with knives, bats and fists.

This is just stupid and saddening, and that idiot Jonny should be handed over to the police and locked away for a very long time.
Swearing in the papers...
[info]nilcarbarundum wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 09:39 am (UTC)
If I'd wanted proof that the Indie had gone downhill this would be it; this is supposed to be an intelligent paper, not the News Of The World. Bleep them out please.
Who Cares
[info]ehross wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 01:58 pm (UTC)
Why should the police put their lives in danger by intervening in the mind numbing stupidity of sub humans?
Society and white trash...hypnotised hypocrits
[info]todopalante wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 02:06 pm (UTC)
Believe it or not these people some of you refer to as Trash are a by-product of your cowardly submission to class system that has turned you into obedient slaves to the power that be you so much idolize.
Believe it or not these people have a code of honor and conduct existential debates albeit of a simplistic sort.
Those of you who want to segregate, to differentiate, to appear successful you had better reexamine your values in front of a very clean mirror. Ask yourselves whether all your wants and illicit desires ensconced in the pleats of your upper cortex have anything to do with the behavior displayed by these people you so obviously disdain.
Believe it or not these people are more innocent than your sophisticated self. They are the ones who lay their blood on the line in order to promote Britain's "glory" in world and satisfy your middle of no-where vanity.
Finally believe it or not had these people had the same start in life with same opportunities as you they would be just as a nice and civilized as your pristine selves. Ask yourselves when in the near future are you planning to push the head of the next man even further into the mud so that you will appear even more brilliant to your moronic peers. But my guess is that you lack the testicles for such self examination.
Re: Society and white trash...hypnotised hypocrits
[info]media_myths wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 02:38 pm (UTC)
Well said!
Among the Evolved
[info]tpush67 wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 03:47 pm (UTC)
As an American who has frequently taken exception to the English portrayal of the States as being somewhat "behind the evolutionary curve" (they voted for Bush .. they all carry guns, etc.), I always find it revealing when reading articles about your enlightened "footie" fans. Granted, this is only a select portion of your population, but they are as backward as any lot we've got over here - and apparently much more threatened in connecting with their masculinity. Not sure why your cops can't get a handle on this garbage - there are plenty of thugs in our culture, but they are controlled at large, public sporting events. Perhaps if these goons were given furlough to broaden their horizons and mix it up with some Yank hoods, they'd reconsider their ways. Nothing like busting a pint glass jagged in an attempt to get your testosterone running, only to be met with a .38 slug between the eyes. Sure, it's kind of barbaric and final, but on the other hand it's one less sub human to deal with ..
Re: Among the Evolved
[info]parkerthered wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 07:27 pm (UTC)
shut up, what do you know, all your police control is the black population, although control is the wrong word, allowed to create gangs, sell drugs, buy arms, and then kill each other, thats the ones left over from your police killings that is, want to talk about 911, and the Bush family, what about invading countries for their oil
shut up yank and go eat 16 big mac's
Re: Among the Evolved
[info]tpush67 wrote:
Friday, 28 August 2009 at 07:32 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much for setting me straight, mate. Even if I attempted to dissect your argument on a factual basis, it's so beautifully articulated that I'd never win - no wonder you lot gave the language its name. I might not be able to manage the sixteenth Big Mac, however .. despite being a typically loutish and overweight American, oblivious to the benefits of maintaining the top physical form exemplified by proponents of your Yob and Pub Culture. Oh, and no worries about the WW II or Lend-Lease thing, I'm sure you lot could have handled it on your own. (Are you, by any chance, a direct decedent of Churchill? You seem to possess his way with both wit and words ..)
It is simple: ban footall.
[info]gladyssmythe wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 03:57 pm (UTC)
Football hooliganism has been around for many years and all attempts to stop it have failed. Life time bans will not work. The only solution is to ban all football matches. We do not need football. We do not need footballers. We do not need football fans. Stop teaching it in schools. Stop televising it. Stop wasting taxpayers' money dealing with the results.
Football "Fans"
[info]neil639 wrote:
Thursday, 27 August 2009 at 05:06 pm (UTC)
Last year, because of a shortage of alternative seats, I had the misfortune to share a railway carriage with a group of so-called football fans. These mainly 30-something, grossly overweight, unkempt and unpleasant people were intimidatingly abusive, their language was obscene and they were just generally obnoxious.

Throughout a two-hour train journey they openly and loudly boasted about how many times they had been arrested by Police in Britain and by various Police Forces in European countries for violent behaviour. Having heard and experienced such people at close quarters, this sorry saga of ignorance and vicious violence does not surprise me one bit.
How a midweek tie turned into a 'scene from hell'
[info]famulla wrote:
Friday, 28 August 2009 at 05:18 am (UTC)
G20 like, is it not?
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla

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