Last Night's Television - Deborah 13: Servant of God, BBC3; Horne & Corden, BBC3
Too many belly laughs
One wonders how the first instalment of Horne & Corden would have managed without James Corden's belly, a comedy prop so central to the first episode of their new sketch series that it surely deserved a billing of its own. It was, after all, the indispensable star of the first filmed sketch in last night's show, in which Bloke One and Bloke Two wandered up to a burger van chatting idly about last night's match, until suddenly Bloke One noticed that Bloke Two was carrying enough around his middle to warrant an excess-baggage charge on a Ryanair flight. Bloke Two screamed appalled – as if the blubber had suddenly appeared without warning – and proceeded to berate Burger Van Man for the effects of his merchandise, while Bloke One got a strong grip on the overhang and proceeded to jiggle it wildly, to demonstrate the scale of the problem. The studio audience, as far as one can tell, went wild for this gag, though judging from their hysterical behaviour when Horne and Corden danced down the studio stairs, they were predisposed to like whatever came next.
The sketch show, one takes it, is a reward for Gavin & Stacey. Or what marketeers like to call a brand extension, venturing out from straightforward sitcom into Morecambe and Wise territory (or Alas Smith & Jones, or perhaps, if things go very badly, Little and Large). In the studio, Corden played the silly, over-excitable one, prone to bouncing around in a Tiggerish way, while Mathew Horne did the straight-man stuff, trying to stick to the script in the teeth of his co-star's excesses. In the sketches – both filmed and performed live in front of the audience – they shared things out a little more equitably. In a foreign-correspondent spoof, for example, it was Corden who played the sober anchor and Horne who took the part of a wildly camp and flamboyantly highlighted reporter. "What can you tell us about the present situation?" asked Corden gravely, brow furrowed to convey the gravity of the story they were covering. "Oh, it's mental!" fluted our man in Basra. "Honestly, it's all going off here... It's nuts!" Asked about the current climate, he replied, "It. Is. Baking!... Honestly! It's sweltering out here!"
They're both talented comic actors (Corden, in particular, did a note-perfect piss-take of Ricky Gervais, scene-stealing shamelessly as he performed in a remake of The Karate Kid), so where there were dips, it was usually the result of material rather than delivery. And, though it would be ridiculously early to write it off, it was worrying that their opener should have been so reliant on material that struck you as a bit end-of-term-revue in character. Corden's naked body was treated as a kind of get-out-jail-free card, with no less than three sketches in which he got his kit off and at least one more in which the only gag derived from his weight. They clearly know their audience, though, because in every case the studio laughter spiked as the clothes were peeled off. I hope subsequent episodes will conduct a bit of comic liposuction, and lose the belly in favour of the stuff they actually require a keyboard for.
Deborah 13: Servant of God, a film about a devout evangelical teenager, began with a scene in which the offscreen director exposed just how sheltered she and her siblings were from the modern world. Deborah had no idea who Victoria Beckham was and she politely asked for Britney's surname in the style of someone asking for an extra clue. Deborah won't be watching Horne & Corden, which is a mercy, really, since it's pretty filthy at times, and Deborah thinks that even white lies are deserving of an eternity in hellfire. Shortly after failing her A-list identity parade, she launched into the film's director, claiming that she was a "lying, thieving blasphemer" and thus on a fast-track to damnation.
There are a lot worse things than not knowing who Posh Spice is, of course, and there are a lot of people – not just the devout – who might think that not knowing who Posh is is actually a good thing. And as you looked at Deborah's life – home-schooled on a Dorset farm and preternaturally detached from anything that might count as typical teenage life – I found it hard to get very worked up about her faith, even as a hair-trigger atheist. Yes, she was a bit dreary when she pulled out her tracts and started to preach, but then a lot of teenagers go through sanctimonious phases. And yes, she was horribly ignorant about science and evolution, swallowing Creationist gibberish without a second thought. But when she went out for a night on the town in Derbyshire with her student brother, and a young fresher staggered up and asked, "Does someone want to write on my boobs?" you couldn't help – for one flickering moment – seeing the world through her eyes. Buxton, the Gomorrah of Derbyshire.
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I am a 'born again' christian and saw and watched last night's programm with interest.
My husband and I are both involved in our local church and we do live our lives with the guidance of the Bible but we also live a normal life!
I think that Deborah was very brave in her speech and yes what she was saying is the truth and we shouldn't compromise that but it needs to be balanced with the fact that the reason Jesus came to the earth is because and foremost that He loves you and me.
Everybody knows that scripture in John 3:16 'For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son so that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life!'
So, yeah : there is a recognition of sin but it doesn't stop there with condemnation but with love ...
If tomorrow one of my child is condemmed to a life time suffering through an illness and I have the tool to help that child then I would sacrifice my life for my child so that he could live a happy life ... why? because I love my child!
God saw our sins, recognized them and thought: I love my creation so much that I am not going to let them suffer but I will sacrifice myself for them so they can enjoy a beautiful life! that is what the cross is all about!
While Jesus was on earth, he was friend with sinners: prostitutes, liars, thief ... He was among them not to condemn them but to love on them and show them that there is another way...
Although the Bible is clear about the destination of the sinners (which we all are ) there is also a clear path that leads to the way out from that destination and that way is: the love of God for the sinner ...
God says if you believe in me (that is all it take) and follow me .... then we will be with Him for eternity ... and God is a gracious loving God who is 'slow to anger and abouding in love and faithfulness' Exodus 34 v 6
I hope that has helped ... From personal testimony: me and my husband have prooved and seen God move in our lives ... helping us to live a peaceful, full of joy (even in hard times!), full of excitement life! God has helped my husband come out from 10 years of heroin addiction and has helped me through my insecurities and neglect. He has truly given us LIFE. We have a normal happy carry on ... something that we couldn't have even dreamt about few years ago!
So just believe in Him... get to know Him and see your life (as you follow Him) change and transformed for the better (If your life is good now then trust me ... it can be even better: somethings you can't purchase in a store but with God you have access to them!)
Love you ...
xxx
Blessed = from the Greek = Happy!
In Psalm 1: 'Blessed is the man who does not walk in the councel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinner or sit in the seat of mockers but his delight is in the law of the Lord and on His law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water which yealds its fruit in season (...)
We haven't had an easy carrying on and even now we go through trials but Jesus did say 'in this world you will have trouble (so I am not surprised with the trials) but take heart I have overcome the world' (john 16 v 33) So even through the trial we and you can enjoy/ learn to enjoy the journey with Jesus and in His presence there is fullness of joy (Psalm 16 v 11). So: I do understand your comment but as I read my Bible I can see and know that God and the purpose of the cross is to give life. And I am determined to enjoy the life that He has died for. For better for worse! I know that Jesus has died for my sins and for me to be with Him for Eternity but in that knowing I rejoice while I am 'waiting' and I have peace knowing that I will see Him one day and I enjoy telling others about Him and about the fact that they can have their sins forgiven but I tell them that they can enjoy their life with Him while here on earth. Yes persecution and hardship is a reality but again: Jesus says: take heart I have overcome the World.
Thank you.
I did respect the choices that Deborah's parent had made, to have as many children as 'god wanted' and to teach the children at home. Its a difficult thing to do, and I believe they have made a pretty good job of most of it.
On the other hand, what a sad way to feel the world when you are 13! She is completely isolated from the rest of the world, with no balance to how it feels in the real world. No particular friends her own age to speak of. No experience of interacting on many levels to girls and boys her own age. No other interests as a natural teenager should have, other than one rather punishing and scary God figure.
Her father stated on the program that neglect is a form of training. They are training their children with God rammed down their throats, which is fine... but where is the balance. You can tell your children all about God, and creation, but you also need to give them the opportunity to find their own opinion, through the use of scientific facts. Its a form of training to raise your children in such a way, but its also a form of propaganda to avoid topics of science because its convienient for you to forget.
They may have created a servant of God, and brought her up in a very healthy lifestyle, but the extent of denial will have a knock on effect, and has the potential to hurt her deeply... God or no God.
Tom Sutcliffe, as a writer for the Indipendent I would have expected you to be less of an extremist ('hair-trigger atheist') and write more indipendently of world-views which for all we know were 'shoved down your throat' as a child. But such is society now that atheists think they can say that they are absolutely correct and think everyone else are deluded, when they themselves take an equal (and opposite) standpoint to those they are berating.
I am a Christian but grew up in a household very connected to society, none of my family are Chrisitan and I didn't become a Christian until my late teens. I would therefore argue that it would be foolish to dismiss Christianity because of a very closed-minded view that Christians are somehow all like Deborah's family in the film.
Concerning little white-lies: I'm sure we have all done much worse than this, this is just an extreme example given by a young teenage girl, we know that little white lies are not the worst which we have done. We have all hurt people physically and emotionally at some point in our lives. Therefore, if we were to add together all the little times when we hurt people in just little ways, it would result in one big crime. So, maybe the punishment does fit the crime - I would want to see people punished for such hurt of others and so would you. So all the hurting of others throughout our lives adds to to being as if we have actually killed someone, so hell is about right for all of us.
If all you have done if told a single little white lie, I apologize, but I'm sure I am apologizing to very few people in the world.
The emotion she showed at the end of the film was obviously tears of happiness, not of sadness. She has a genuine belief in what she is saying. I personally have never seen an atheist cry with happiness over their beliefs (I am not saying that atheists beliefs are not genuine, just that it must be a very sad life to be an atheist... the drunkards and others in the film go to show the sadness of their lives, craving sexual and consumer pleasures to fulfil themselves in a very temporary way.)
Perhaps she was also crying with happiness at how free she is of the mindlessness she witnessed at her brother's university. Call her mindless and brainwashed if you like, but surely so too are the others who crave their next fix of drink, drugs, sex, arguments, shopping, etc.
The message is effectively "Believe and be perfect, or you go to hell".
This is proof that God (if he exists) is pretty nasty and unforgiving. If a person said to you "If you aren't kind to everyone I will torture you for the rest of your life", would you think they were loving or perhaps psychotic? Well God is a complete psycho... but Christians fail to see this.
I agree with this article - She'd obviously grown up in a loving, caring, wholesome environment and had her own opinions and views associated with it. The beginning, in which the interviewer asked her whether she knew who the spice girls and britney spears were and presented her with an alien and trashy looking girly magazine and appearing shocked when deborah didn't know what to make of them - I felt I was being handed a picture of our own cultural bigotry. She has her own set of views, and we have ours. To claim that she's in any way sheltered or detached from "real life" is as abusive as for her to tell us we're going to hell. I am no religious person, but I'm no big fan of our trashy and bigotted culture either. And as for being evangelical - all teenagers are like this, whether it's about god or shoes or what music you listen to. I applaud Deborah for standing up for what she believes in. After all - she's not doing any harm is she? If anything I'm jealous of her privileged upbringing.
I couldn't believe that she has such strong views for someone so young - her obsession with hell is unhealthy and I think her parents should do something but then agin they are training their children????
weird
I saw a look in her eyes and it wasn't normal - I have to say this programme shocked me - especially the 'Puppet Show' yeah right, just another chance to 'witness' - hilarious and cringworthy at the same time.
There is a difference between God as a being and a belief in God, which does not in itself require that God exists. Your faith has helped you and your husband through all these difficult times, which is good for you, but a belief in God, no matter how strong, in no way reflects on the probability of God's existence, an important distinction to make but one which is made all too rarely by the religious. There is a difference between faith and fact.
mrbaker: "But such is society now that atheists think they can say that they are absolutely correct and think everyone else are deluded, when they themselves take an equal (and opposite) standpoint to those they are berating."
Religious people are easily the worst offenders worldwide when it comes to thinking about themselves as absolutely right and everyone else absolutely wrong, and what's more they not infrequently have the clout or political power to actually affect society with these opinions, unlike atheists, who tend to be unorganised by nature. Besides which, the standpoints are opposite, but not equal: theists and atheists operate in two opposing ways, one on faith, the other reason, and it is the refusal of religious people to accept not just atheists' arguments, but the very foundational way of thinking for their arguments, that means debates seem to end up in stalemate. This possibly wouldn't matter if such arguments were purely abstract, but they have real consequences when the religious try and use these teachings in the public arena: ideas impervious to reason being used to justify laws are very dangerous ideas indeed.
"So all the hurting of others throughout our lives adds to to being as if we have actually killed someone, so hell is about right for all of us."
That's one of the most absurd things I've read in a long time. Can you not see what is profoundly wrong with this way of thinking? In what sense do bad things accumulate until we've all essentially murdered someone over the course of our lives? Can you not see that these things are simply not equivalent - even if you're not thinking in the secular sense of principles of harm, compassion and altruism and are thinking in religiously-proscribed terms of 'sin' I still can't imagine that makes sense within Christianity. So a lifetime of complex, fallible human beings making mistakes, trying to make amends, and being as good and happy as they can still warrants an ETERNITY of punishment? It's one of the most disgusting doctrines I know of.
cont...
The first part of this statement, is both entirely irrelevant to the probability of God existing and irrelevant to your larger point about happiness - why would I 'cry with happiness' about being an atheist, any more than I would about enjoying certain foods, or types of music? It simply isn't that sort of belief; perhaps it is more coolly rational rather than sentimentally emotional, but it doesn't reflect on whether I am happy being an atheist or not.
Besides all this, the rest of the statement entirely misses the points most atheists make about ethics and belief in God. It is in the nature of religious belief to create false dichotomies for everything: absolutely right/wrong, true/false, good/evil, for God/against God etc. but there is an important distinction to be made between theists, atheists, and those who tend to muddle through life without giving such matters much thought. It is a tendency of the religious to categorise those who aren't religious as atheists, but a more apt term would simply be 'non-religious'. The atheists you read about in papers, the ones who teach philosophy, who write books, who appear on radio and television (and who make the time to comment on newspaper websites), are intelligent people who reasoned that God probably doesn't exist, that belief in God is therefore pointless and potentially dangerous, and that it is up to ourselves to work out ethical systems to live by, drawing on critical thinking and millennia of philosophical thought. This isn't an amoral system of absolute relativism and a shallow, 'anything goes' hedonism as often characterised by the religious, but rather an intelligent way of thinking which takes in, for example, the idea of universal human rights, principles of fairness and justice, and, crucially, a flexibility to adapt notably absent from religious doctrines, which are forever crippled by the need to declare certain ancient, divisive and ridiculous dogmas unchangeable, despite the lack of good reason to believe them in the first place. It's easy to declare oneself an atheist without any thought, of course, just as there are many who characterise themselves as Christians merely because it was the way they were brought up, regardless of their adult lack of church attendance or consideration of Christian doctrine, but I think 'atheist' ought to be, and certainly is for those whom the religious most like arguing against, a positive term which requires thought about the subject before it can be applied.
The problem with those who do live their lives solely to pursue material gain (and maybe those in the film are perfectly ordinary and nice people who were actually just having a good time - are you not judging a little too much on a selective piece of footage?) is not simply that they are 'godless', but that they haven't given any broader thought to ethics and what makes a good life. This is something that could be changed by teaching philosophy and critical thinking from an early age, an approach similar in style to a religious upbringing but with the added bonus of being reasonable and not teaching likely falsehoods, as well as without the need to instill superstition and narrowing the mind - indeed the very opposite being the modus operandi of philosophy, in fact.
I love being an atheist. I believe it is the only reasonable stance and that the idea that we alone have to work out the best and fairest ways to live is exhilarating. I also believe that the idea that we collapse into an amoral anarchy if we don't have parochial and primitive religious texts telling us what to do is frankly insulting; biology, physics, music, family, the universe... all these are fascinating and awe-inspiring - "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" (Douglas Adams)
Yeah, Scandanavia, it's a doomed hellhole. Or not.
Rome was Christian when it fell, see Gibbon.
Edited at 2009-03-16 02:21 am (UTC)
I did like the ending (or near the end) she said something like "there's no proof for the big bang how can people believe something like that!".. there's no proof for god, but her dad would have told her otherwise. Indoctrination at its best.
Yes, to suggest that I am going to hell because I was fortunate enough not to be indoctrinated from birth into some middle eastern fantasy-superstition is hugely offensive to me.
"As far as she was concerned, the only reason she wanted to spread the 'Word', was to help get others to a 'better place'"
It's none of her damn business about helping me or others to get to a better place. I can think for myself, unlike this poor abused child who has obviously never had a thought of her own that her parents have not meticulously placed in her formative mind.
It's sick, and people who force their children into particular ways of life like this should have their children removed for their own sake.
Even if you have doubts about the theory of evolution as it currently stands, the geological and cosmological evidence for an ancient earth and universe is beyond dispute. One thing I have noticed about young-earth creationists is that they have no ability to distinguish between different scientific disciplines - if you don't believe in a young earth you must be an atheistic evolutionist. To them, only evolutionists believe in a long earth history.
If Deborah is reading this thread then I would encourage her to take note of this fact. People like Hovind and Ham are frauds, who tell lies about science repeatedly and expect their listeners to accept their outrageous ideas, which have no shred of evidence to support them. There is plenty of evidence for the big bang, whether or not you decide to believe in evolution.
Also did she really "launched into the film's director, claiming that she was a "lying, thieving blasphemer" or did the director say that she had lied stolen and blasphemed?
Is this the old "Evolution's just a theory" thing? So's gravity. The word "Theory" means something special in science. Luckily, there's a great website about it.
I don't believe in any conflict between science and religion, the point is, science is not capable of answering the questions posed by religion.
Which questions? I'd agree that science doesn't cover ethics, for example, but I'd also argue you can be ethical without religion.
If you want to talk about ranting and rhetoric (along with bad science and biased twisting of facts) read The God Delusion.
The God Delusion is certainly polemical. Can you cite the bad science and twisting of facts in it?
You and I both know that "Have you ever done X? What does that make you?" stuff is a script from Ray Comfort's Way of the Master. It's the Christian equivalent of a high pressure sales technique. If the victim has time to think, the right response is: "Have you ever told the truth? What does that make you?"
A young girl repeating what you have just told her can hardly be called launching into them.
Telling the truth some of the time does not mean that if you lie, you are not a liar, just as not murdering for most of your life, does not mean that the one or two times you have murdered some one dose not make you a murderer.
Yes she learned it from Ray Comfort, Honoured to know the man.
But she doesn't repeat what she is told. Comfort's slight of hand is that he uses similar sounding words (lie, liar) to make people accept a use of the word "liar" that they wouldn't otherwise.
People use description of what a person is (like "liar", "murderer"), rather just saying what a person has done, either because they want to say the person habitually does the thing, or because they regard the thing as very serious. Both of these ways of using a description seem to be about differentiating people from the others around them. We'd certainly use the term "murderer" to describe someone who'd committed murder, because murder is serious and rare. But "liar" loses its usefulness if it refers to everyone who once lied, because pretty much everyone doesn't tell the truth all the time, so nobody uses "liar" that way. The guy in Comfort's 2nd street interview who says "That makes me a human" has it right. If Comfort had said "Do you often tell lies?", he would have been correct to imply that made someone a liar, but since most people would say "no", he wouldn't have produced the guilt he was looking for.
You may want to argue that God regards people who've told an occasional lie as being as bad as habitual liars. If so, so much the worse for God.
Ray Comfort, Honoured to know the man.
He's certainly a gift to atheists. That stuff about bananas, and the Crocoduck. Brilliant. C.S. Lewis must be turning in his grave.
I would choose her lifestyle than that of the average computer gaming, crisp munching teenager any day.
P.s. i was a pretty useless teenager...with drink, weed, tattoos, parties etc...i regret it and the mistakes that came with it. God is awesome, he knows we'll mess up, cos we're human, but He doesn't want us to go to hell either, that's why he sent Jesus...it took me a while to accept it but once i checked out the bible for myself it all became clear.
Indeed if an individual totally followed the bible then they would go to jail. e.g. the bit in the bible where a man is stoned to death for working on the Sabbath. If a Christian stoned someone to death who worked on the Sabbath then they would go to jail for murder. Deborah's family teach them to follow the bible literally, does "thou shalt not kill" override the stoning to death commandment? Talk about completely ridiculous contradictions.
Atheists ethics are FAR more sensible than Christian ethics.
Regarding Deborah's personal views, I think they're a little black and white but this is normal for a 13 year old, who has not developed an understanding of the world and people around her yet. I did think she was a little pre-occupied with hell, but it was all out of concern for those she was talking to, and I largely agree with her views though would probably put it differently. In Christianity judgment and love go hand in hand, they are two sides of the same coin. Yes, I believe we are all sinners, God is a perfect God and non of us are perfect and can meet a 100% standard. It can't be simply a case of God letting us of, as someone has written (I can't remember who off the top of my head) A God all mercy is a God unjust. We cannot have it both ways. How often do you hear people crying for justice in the world, we all want people to be punished for their crimes, yet we are not so keen when it is we who are being judged. If you have ever intentionally said something to hurt someone or been selfish etc you know that that person was hurt by you and as such you deserve punishment. But that is not how God sees us. In John 3:17 it says 'For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.' It's all about how the picture is presented. Without sin there would be no need for rescue. As Christians our message is not God's condemnation but his love, after all we're all in the same boat - none of us have the right to judge another. One of the themes which reoccurs again and again in the new testament is Jesus' criticism of the Pharasees who had all the rules but none of the love and had missed the whole point in their self-righteous judgment of others, and observance of rules.
It's sad that it's often the extreme and condemnatory side of Christianity which is shown on TV, and usually provokes such a hostile response. The gospel isn't easy however, and if people really want to know what is actually said, I would advise them to read the Bible for themselves, rather than basing it on other people's accounts which can be misleading. The Bible tells Christians to weigh carefully everything we hear, there are false teachings in the 'church' (as an institution), and we don't have to accept everything people tell us, we have to be vigelent that we are not led astray by people claiming Christianity but practicing something else.
Where are all the programmes that show the good, positive approaches to Christianity? Where are the programmes that look at what Shane Claiborne is doing over in America, or what "Soul in the City" or "Newday" are doing here in the UK? Could it possibly be that the media are afraid to show a side to Christianity that isn't actually that weird? It seems that the public view of Christianity is either the hymn-singing, do-gooding, bless-their-(starchy)-cotton-socks upper-middle class, or the extremely bizarre!
I do wonder whether Deborah "23" will be very different to Deborah "13" (perhaps that is an idea for the Beeb to consider looking at in 10 years) - either way, I hope that she finds a Christianity that isn't based on manipulation, bad science and pointless rhetoric. It is out there; honest.
Her family have drumed God into her from day one and cut her off from anything that could make her think anything but what they have told her. When talking with her brother she said anyone that belives the Big Band theory needs physiological help! She needs to be placed in a real school and learn the facts and stop repeating what has been drumed in to her head.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se
It proves that Jesus and Moses are murdering psychopaths!
The country's youth focuses on trash to entertain itself because we don't offer it any more. Why can't we focus our efforts on producing a greater number of intelligent, passionate people who really care about other people and have a great self belief and excellent values. We'd all have so much less to complain about.
Well done Deborah!
What the programme did was to cynically exploit a child - one emotionally and intellectually ill-equipped to deal with the confusion, tension, contradiction and pressure of adolescence, never mind engage with the philosophical complexities of the purpose of existence and the nature of the hereafter, however it's imagined. It doesn't matter a hoot what I or anybody else makes of the broadcast, but we should all be concerned about the damage it might have done/still do to Deborah herself - and her siblings.
Jim G
Her parents are to naive to see their abuse.
Also her parents teach them that the bible is literal... well it makes me wonder if they teach them the bit about the man being stoned to death for working on the Sabbath? Also according to Deborah we are ALL going to hell... hmmm... she has been very messed up.
The truth is that this programme exposed Christianity as a complete farce. If the Bible is meant to be read metaphorically then it's obviously not factual, and therefore not the word of god, but if it's meant to be followed literally then it's a dangerous book with extreme brutality, racism, homophobia, xenophobia and lot's of killing and sacrifices and indeed holy wars. Atheism and rationality lead to nicer, more well rounded people.
christians it is important not to get caught up in an arguement and get distracted from the message that All have sinned, Jesus died for our sins and that if we believe in him and repent of our sins that He will forgive us our sins. it is not our job to convince people God exists, it is only to tell them what He has done... the rest is up to that individual.
i just want however to leave a suggestion... if you are unsure try reading a King James Bible from start to finish and at the end compare the 'science facts' with 'God's Facts' and from there with an opened mind to both, you will be truely be able to say that you have made an 'informed' choice.
my personal experience... life is harder with out God and i love him for the things that He has done for me, dedorah only goes through the hardships of telling people because she cares for people and i think we should be thrilled that someone would show so much concern for us, regardless if we believe what they are saying or not.
thanks for reading :-)
It will be interesting to see if her beliefs change as she grows up and experiences life a little more.