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Al Gore denies he is 'carbon billionaire'

As he publishes a new book, critics say climate change has made him rich

By David Usborne in New York

The former US vice president's new book draws from a series of a 'solutions summits'

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The former US vice president's new book draws from a series of a 'solutions summits'

Al Gore, the former American vice-president, yesterday hit back at critics who are labelling him the first "carbon billionaire" from his earnings as an investor in green technology, dismissing them as "global-warming deniers".

Since leaving office in 2001, Mr Gore has become a powerful advocate of government policies to limit carbon dioxide emissions. This week sees the launch of his latest book, Our Choice: A Plan to Solve the Climate Crisis, a sequel to his earlier work, which was also a successful film, entitled An Inconvenient Truth.

As the Copenhagen talks on a new climate-change treaty approach and the US Congress grapples with draft laws to curb emissions, Mr Gore's profile will only swell further. But as it does, so does the chorus asking if his advocacy for action on climate change is about self-enrichment as much as saving the planet.

Some of his green investments were outlined yesterday by The New York Times. Mr Gore is a partner in the Silicon Valley venture-capital firm Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield and Byers, which has interests in companies developing alternative energy and energy-efficient technologies. He is also a co-founder of London-based Generation Investment Management, which has holdings in eco-energy companies.

He defended his business activities on ABC TV and denied he was on the way to becoming a carbon billionaire. "I am proud to have put my money where my mouth is for the past 30 years," he said. "And though that is not the majority of my business activities, I absolutely believe in investing in accordance with my beliefs and my values."

The new book reiterates the mantra that nothing will happen on climate change without political will. " We need to protect our national security, create more jobs, solve the climate crisis and do right by our kids," he said on ABC.

The book also explores numerous possible solutions to climate change, touching on such issues as forest management, geo-thermal energy and nuclear power generation, drawn from a series of "solutions summits" he held at his Tennessee home with experts.

It was almost inevitable that Mr Gore would become a target of those unconvinced by the alarm bells about global warming, particularly on the American right. "If you really want to save the planet, put down the cheeseburgers and pick up your veggie burger," Glenn Beck, the conservative TV anchor, quipped recently, apparently referring to the dangers of methane emissions from the bovine species.

While the former presidential candidate is not a lobbyist in the traditional sense, he is a frequent visitor to Capitol Hill where he continues to press members of Congress to pass legislation to curb emissions. In April, he was famously put on the spot about his business interests in the industry by the Republican Marsha Blackburn.

Mr Gore, who earns in excess of $100,000 (£60,000) for speaking engagements reacted testily to the implication in her question about a possible conflict of interest. "Congresswoman, if you believe that the reason I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of greed," he said, "you don't know me".

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global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 01:10 am (UTC)
So Al Gore is a carbon billionaire. Ironic that neo-cons, who otherwise support an individual's right to get as rich as they want, criticize a man who has been dedicated to this issue since before anyone knew what it was, let alone cared for making a little money on a cause he has devoted his life to.

Steve Forbes must also be in on this conspiracy for never once mentioning Al Gore in his annual richest people in the world announcement. If he's involved, I wonder just how deep it goes. Run for your lives everybody!!!
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]ubergrump wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 07:00 am (UTC)
Yep, $100,000 per speech is "a little money" for most people. But then Gore is so spiritual.
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 05:29 pm (UTC)
Yes, 100,000 per speech. Again, I'm surprised that you would be upset at this. Shouldn't you be applauding his entrepenuerial motivation? And how much do other former politicians get? 500,000? 1,000,000?

For decades, opponents of environmental regulation have argued that green energy and environmentally friendly lifestyles were not profitable, so somebody went out and made it profitable, and now you complain that people are making money off being more environmentally responsible.

What a world.
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]sidsnot wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 10:47 am (UTC)
Sad weak minded individuals always brand people as "Liars" when they don't agree with them. I suppose any body you can brand a "global warming denier" will be rounded up and put into a concentration camp to be re-educated..
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 05:20 pm (UTC)
Hey, you are the ones who got the concentration camps built in the first place, don't cry about it now.

And if you can cite just one source that questions the science of anthropogenic global warming, that wasn't funded by the oil industry or any other big polluters, I would be happy to consider it. But until such research exists...
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 03:26 pm (UTC)
[And if you can cite just one source that questions the science of anthropogenic global warming, that wasn't funded by the oil industry or any other big polluters, I would be happy to consider it. But until such research exists...]

Ferenc Miskolczi is one source who comes to mind. He used to work for NASA (arch advocates of AGW), but had to publish his research independently when they refused to because it challenged their 'consensus' position. He is not in the pay of Big Oil or anyone else. He is an independent academic - as are many of the skeptics of AGW.
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 05:08 pm (UTC)
Sorry, as far as I can tell, he is just another ultra right-wing kook who seeks to disinform with his partisan politics.

And I still have yet to see anyone provide even a shred of evidence to corroborate the topic of this article, that Al Gore is a billionaire.
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]dunque123 wrote:
Friday, 6 November 2009 at 08:10 am (UTC)
imdoughandirule (hmmm sounds like a lifeless teenage nerd) I think your comments are fast degenerating into the gainsaying na na na na na of the playground, with which you obviously have had very recent experience
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 6 November 2009 at 12:57 pm (UTC)
[Sorry, as far as I can tell, he is just another ultra right-wing kook who seeks to disinform with his partisan politics.]

Then you clearly don't know the first thing about Miskolczi or his work, and you should keep your stupid, ignorant opinions to yourself.
Re: global warming deniers are liars plain and simple
[info]dunque123 wrote:
Friday, 6 November 2009 at 08:07 am (UTC)
my word! so global warming deniers are all nazis now are they ? That is a very broad brush you are wielding there
Yer, sure.
[info]coochrisyorks wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 06:11 am (UTC)
Oh yer...just like Blair aint gonna be President of Europe. It was a done deal years ago.
[info]mr_scummy wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 09:46 am (UTC)

Branding people who disagree "global-warming deniers", implying they are equivalent to Holocaust deniers, is a shabby move. There are certainly doubts about global warming; if doubters are simply shouted down as "deniers", rather than having their concerns addressed, then those doubts will continue to grow.
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 05:30 pm (UTC)
Shouted down? You mean like people who try and talk about healthcare reform being shouted down by armed lunatics at town hall meetings?

Ah, savor the irony.
[info]a_gillingham wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 10:42 am (UTC)
This is a very predictable reaction and debate which occurs whenever anyone makes money out of doing anything good and positive. This man is dedicating much of his life to our sustainable future on this planet and bringing to light immensely important material in the hope of changing the very problems which threaten our existance. Why do we always shoot down the good guys, the only affect its likely to have on us if negative by bluring the true message. We have to make changes to the way we live our lives now, you can stir things all you like but that fact still remains! Why would a man who believes so strongly about something not want to be a part of it?!
[info]alheimstead wrote:
Friday, 6 November 2009 at 12:48 am (UTC)
Gillingham,

Al Gore is a fruit cake! He is not even a scientist, not even a geologist!!!! My dad was a geologist and he would be having a field day about now with ole Al Gore. This global warming bull Sh!! is identical to our big government takeover of healthcare. Obama, all of his lobby and lawyer buddies, his Czars, Queen Pelosi, Prince Rahm, Axelwierd, etc....wrote this stupid HC bill and none of them know one dang thing about medicine - absolutely NOOOO medical experience!!! Jeeeez. We gotta get these old hippies out of the WH.

Gillingham, Al Gore went around telling America he was the one that invented the computer! Are you from MN? This may explain your very liberal beliefs. HaHa! This would also make us cousins and we certainly are not like minded. Yes, many of my WI, MN and IA people left the republican party for the democrat party. Mainly because of farmer subsidies. I love my liberal yankees, but man are they painfully misguided.
Investment and ethics
[info]jamesdar wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 10:54 am (UTC)
Most "new technology" investment is high risk, and can be high reward, so if Al Gore has made money out of investing in green technology, good luck to him. His successor as VP, Dick Cheney, had vast numbers of shares in Halliburton (of which he used to be chairman), receiving dividends of about $1.5m annually (his tax return was published on the White House website). Halliburton was (along with Al Qaida and Iran) one of the main beneficiaries of the Iraq war.

I know which type of investment I prefer.
Re: Investment and ethics
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 04:58 pm (UTC)
Well said. Unfortunately, these neo-cons will just dig in and cling even harder to their fallacies and bogus "research."
Carbon billionaire
[info]midwinter1947 wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 11:47 am (UTC)
Spot-on Al! There is a fantastic commercial / industrial opportunity waiting to be taken up. Why could anyone think that it was somehow wrong to invest in this new sustainable economy? Al Gore should be applauded.

Sustainability is a laudable goal whether you 'believe' in the climate change scenario or not. Why? Well fossil fuels are going to get more scarce and more expensive and supplies will become more unreliable. Simples! Ask that nice Mr Putin. Sustainable energy on the other hand does not deplete finite resources - otherwise it could not be called sustainable - and some technologies (like wind or tidal) don't need any fuel to run. Sounds good. Bio-mass and Bio-fuels can also be sustainable though their use needs to be balanced against other needs such as food crop production.

Whether current use of fossil-fuel induces catastrophic climate change or not, this old-fashioned economy results in the pollution of the atmosphere with CO2. Where else, other than in the minds of rabid climate change sceptics, could the idea remain that pollution is OK?
Good for Gore
[info]had_it wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 03:33 pm (UTC)
Showing that one can make money by going green is a nice example to set.

I do continue to like "global-warming deniers" - it conflates pre-supposing facts in a debate with the emotional baggage of the Holocaust. A tactic Limbaugh, Beck and Hanratty would be proud of, had they thought of it.
Re: Good for Gore
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 05:18 pm (UTC)
If the shoe fits...
Algore is a Phoney
[info]bjimmer wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 03:37 pm (UTC)

He wants us peons to cut our energy use, but yet he can't seem to figure out how to reduce his personal home electric bill below $18,000 a year (enough to light a fair sized town all pouring into his personal home), or find his way to the airline ticket counter, so he keeps taking his private jet in his daily travels (spewing more carbon into the atmosphere each trip than the average person does in a lifetime).

Was it Algore that once said: "If the peons have no bread, let them eat cake like I do."

~

Re: Algore is a Phoney
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 05:33 pm (UTC)
You imply that he lives in a small house by himself and not on a compound with his family, staff, and secret service.

Rather than compare his to your own monthly power bill, you might try seeing where he ranks with other former vice-presidents on monthly consumption.
Re: Algore is a Phoney
[info]unexpectedtiger wrote:
Friday, 6 November 2009 at 02:05 am (UTC)
Of course he might come rather well out of that comparison. American politicians tend to be very rich even before they take office and afterwards don't generally do too badly for themselves.

Personally I don't think environmentalists should be leaping to Gore's defence, except to counter the more non-sequitur man-not-the-ball attacks. The fact is that a millionaire lifestyle can never be sustainable, and I think given his standing Gore's wealth is a real problem for the environmental movement. People will, not without reason, balk at having their £5 flights to Barcelona taken away while businessmen fly to Beijing on company expenses and celebrities jet to the Caribbean. I'm not convinced people like Gore understand this and more importantly, neither are the people still on the fence about whether preventing climate change is worth the sacrifice.
Al gets spiritual.
[info]muckle10 wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 03:56 pm (UTC)
"Oh Lord make me an eco-billionaire!", cries Gore.

Climate Change fraud will ultimately make Sub-prime mortgages look like a raid on a child's piggy bank.
Re: Al gets spiritual.
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 05:34 pm (UTC)
Haha! I love these conspiracy theories! Thanks for giving me my first laugh of the day.
Re: Al gets spiritual.
[info]muckle10 wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 09:52 am (UTC)
Conclusion from a report on Cap & Trade by Friends of the Earth. "The majority of the trade is carried out not between polluting industries and factories covered by carbon trading schemes, but by banks and investors who profit from speculation on the carbon markets – packaging carbon credits into increasingly complex financial products similar to the 'shadow finance' around sub-prime mortgages which triggered the recent economic crash."

It would seem the laugh is on those who believe Al Gore is going to save the planet. As I said Climate Change fraud, of which Cap & Trade is part of, will ultimately make Sub-prime mortgages look like a raid on a child's piggy bank.
Don't Pick on Gore
[info]charliesommers wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 08:23 pm (UTC)
In 2007, President Bush said that he was looking forward to making a “ridiculous” amount of money on the lecture circuit after he left office, noting that his father often made $50,000-$75,000 per speech. Bush is now making far more than President George H.W. Bush. Recently, he spoke to nearly 15,000 people at the “Get Motivated!” seminar in Forth Worth, TX. He mostly focused on “lighter topics such as picking out a rug design for the Oval Office that reflected his ‘optimism.’” The Dallas News reports that for this 28-minute speech, Bush received at least $100,000 — a rate of $3571 per minute:

Bush, like other ex-presidents before him, was reportedly paid at least $100,000 to appear at the motivation seminar. He will headline another in San Antonio.

It was a rousing, upbeat celebration of positive thinking and conspicuous success. Speakers were introduced with peppy music, confetti drops and bursts of pyrotechnics exploding from each corner of the stage (but not for Bush – Secret Service orders).

Bush is reportedly receiving $150,000 for other speeches, which doesn’t include the private jet he sometimes receives.

I would much rather hear Al Gore say something sensible about global warning that listen to "Dubya" prattle on about carpets.
Re: Don't Pick on Gore
[info]imdougandirule wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 05:11 pm (UTC)
Well now you're just interjecting facts into this debate!
Re: Don't Pick on Gore
[info]alheimstead wrote:
Friday, 6 November 2009 at 01:10 am (UTC)
And tell me please.....what the heck does Bush have to do with Gore's brain fark? Hey, since you brought Bush up here goes --- Sure wish Bush was back as president after these last 10 rocky months with Mater Obama. With Bush, at least we knew we were safe and could sleep at night and we didn't have to worry about worthless entitlement bills being rammed down our throats. At least we in the medical field didn't have to worry about Obama ruining our careers and also making us part of his scummy unions. It never, ever entered our minds that we had to worry about our private sector being totally blotted out and btw - on purpose by a president. At least with Bush, he could be trusted with our American $$$$. We trusted Bush. We also didn't have to worry about a communist take over of our capitalist America......Al Gore is one of our biggest capitalist americans, yet he is the same person that criticizes everyone and everything capitalism just like Michael Moore, Pelosi, Kerry, Obama, Rahm, Axelwierd, Dunn, etc....this list is going on and on forever...
Al Gore and his Polar bears VS global warming
[info]alheimstead wrote:
Friday, 6 November 2009 at 12:22 am (UTC)
About the time Al Gore was Vice president, Al also claimed he invented the internet too.

A few weeks ago, Al Gore was in Madison, Wisconsin for a speaking engagement. A fellow from the UK, [think he was a writer], stood up and cornered Al Gore about some false data Al was spinning concerning polar bears verses global warming. What happened next? Al Gore's security guard turned off your UK fellow's microphone. Wish I could remember his name. UK fellow was on Fox a couple nights later talking about the incident.

Apparently, if the number of polar bears are low this means global warming is a huge threat. Well UK told Gore, according to objective statistics and reearch, polar bear population was way up. Click! Off went the microphone.

Beck on Fox had PETA on the other night. The lady rep also proved Al Gore wrong about some of his claims concerning [animal and carbons], environment and global warming issues.

Can't believe anyone would invite Gore to speak. If Al Gore did not have Global warming he would not be a billionaire. If this worthless bill passes guess who profits? Guess who suffers?

Al Gore is sooo painful. Too bad you guys don't have a spot for him somewhere in the UK.
scientists
[info]panic2009 wrote:
Friday, 6 November 2009 at 07:46 am (UTC)
what a strange world we live in when world renowned scientists and experts in this field are ignored, lambasted and sometimes fired from their posts for daring to speak against the corporatists lies and propoganda in relation to this great global warming hoax and the governments who are bought and paid for by the same people. al gore is not an envoironmentalist. he is a capitalist and a f$#king good salesman.

the temps on the planet are getting cooler again due to the sun's surface activity calming somewhat. but hey, weve been telling everyone its getting hotter and hotter. what do we do? HEEEEEEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!

you know what al? we tell them its called climate change. thats it. climate change. and its all their fault with their light bulbs, cars and protein diets. it has nothing to do with corporations. nothing to do with big business and their pollutive practises. nothing to do with their practises in agriculture either. its their fault. the sheeple. and you know what we do al? we tax the bastards with it. we break them down once and for all.

wake up you clowns.
[info]mostlymumbling wrote:
Thursday, 12 November 2009 at 04:59 pm (UTC)

What could people possibly have to gain from denying climate change? How about corporations justifying their most polluting excesses, oil companies protecting their biggest profits, so many puppet committees getting payoffs from said big business in order to deny what nearly all scientists agree is a real and credible threat to our planet and therefore to ecosystems and countries and people.

What do people possibly have to gain from spreading awareness of climate change
? It's not going to win Al Gore the presidency. There is that small matter of trying to maintain our planet in a healthy state. But I guess altruism just doesn't ring true to some people.

I don't mind being preached to by people who know their stuff, like the vast majority of scientists and global warming experts (and Al Gore, bringing together their knowledge for a variety of audiences). We can all do a bit better, without bringing down the world economy or whatever it is else that deniers fear. There is absolutely no harm, and a lot of urgency, in trying to live a greener life - doing what little we can, bit-by-bit - and encouraging our governments to promote this too.

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