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Global warming creates world’s first climate change refugees

France 24

With sea levels rising, residents of the islands which comprise the Carteret atoll off the coast of Papau New Guinea are fast becoming some of the first refugees of global warming.



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More Global Warming Nonsense
[info]calum100 wrote:
Wednesday, 25 March 2009 at 02:34 pm (UTC)
Here are the facts:

The Carteret islands consist of a base of coral that sits atop an extinct volcanic mount. In the usual geological course of events such islands eventually subside due to weathering and erosion, as well as isostatic adjustments of the sea floor. Such subsisence has been observed and noted by scientists for over 200 years. This is a natural event.

These low lying islands have also had a number of transient populations over the past 1000 years. In effect the islands have continually been economically exploited over this period. With the islands subsiding into the sea habitation by humans is no longer viable. As a result the population are being evacuated as "environmental refugees" - which has absolutely nothing to do with Global Warming.

This Independent article is a good example of "yellow journalism" (where eye-catching and mis-leading headlines that feature exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, sensationalism are generated to simply sell more newsprint).

The Independent will have to look elsewhere to find so-called victims of the Great Global Warming Hoax.






Re: More Global Warming Nonsense
[info]slimemold wrote:
Wednesday, 25 March 2009 at 03:38 pm (UTC)
Well said, calum.
Planet Earth is continually recycling itself. "Global warming" can no more be controlled than can plate tectonics, solar activity and the myriad other happening to a dynamic planet.
Re: More Global Warming Nonsense
[info]redroseandy wrote:
Thursday, 26 March 2009 at 05:11 am (UTC)
Enough biochar can take out CO2 from the atmosphere, what it needs is massive government intervention. It is a pity the money for it went up cleaning up the banking system.
Re: More Global Warming Nonsense
[info]agwbs_com wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 02:58 pm (UTC)
Why in Gores name would anyone want to take CO2 out of our atmosphere. Any at all. There is nowhere near enough of the stuff. It is at dangerously low levels. We ARE carbon.

When you watch your children grow you watch the carbon cycle in action. CO2 in action.

This is why I am coming around to thinking that anyone who believes that CO2 is anything but good has joined some demonic cult that hates humanity.


PS - nuclear submarines are allowed to patrol the oceans with atomic weaponry on board and operational levels of CO2 between 4,000 and 11,000 parts per million. One would hazard a guess that if it was bad for you at 10x to umpteen times the level we are "suffering" today the navies of the world would ensure greater efficiency in the scrubbers on such vessels.

We should be singing the praises of this miraculous gas, not trying to diminish it in either quantity or qualities.


From one carbon based life form to another, "Live long, and prosper". Stop worrying about a non-threat dished out by non-entities.

Re: More Global Warming Nonsense
[info]bevegan wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 11:36 am (UTC)
Not true.

Transient population had nothing to do with rising sea levels. Economic exploitation has nothing to do with rising sea levels.

Rising sea levels will cause millions of people to become enironmental refugees.


A lie
[info]phe15 wrote:
Wednesday, 25 March 2009 at 06:53 pm (UTC)
Its simply a lie to claim that climate change could be the reason for this man's need to leave the islands. Glabal sea level has risen 20 cm in the past 100 years, and perhaps 10 cms in the man's lifetime. If locally levels are rising more rapidly, this would more likely be a geological phenomenon as another commenter suggests. If you are truly serious about climate change, do not propagate scientific noncenset for the sake of eye-catching headlines. I suppose the journalist who reported this story is looking to be noticed. Ultimately, the only result will be a 'cry wolf effect'.
The Indie Embarrasses Itself Once More
[info]r_lawson wrote:
Thursday, 26 March 2009 at 10:14 pm (UTC)
THe earths crust goes up -it goes down. Sea levels have been rising at about 3mm per year since the last ice age. The Maldives are coral islands and the coral grows naturally upwards as a result. Sands are then deposited and so the Maldives will not drown. Bangladesh will not be flooded as it is primarily on a river delta. As sea levels rise (naturally) then silts will be deposited to compensate and Bangladesh will not disappear.

This is quite appalling journalism from The Independent. I see nobody has dared put their name to this one. Pull your socks up Environmental Sub-editor. This just will not wash.


Re: The Indie Embarrasses Itself Once More
[info]bevegan wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 12:05 pm (UTC)
not true. climate change is real.
Re: The Indie Embarrasses Itself Once More
[info]r_lawson wrote:
Monday, 30 March 2009 at 07:38 pm (UTC)
Yes I quite agree. It's been changing for millions of years.
Wasn't is supposed to be 5 million refugees by now?
[info]canadastan wrote:
Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 05:44 am (UTC)
Or was that just another AGW prediction that was , what is the word I'm looking for?
Oh yeah, WRONG.

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