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The Big Question: Why did the Met Office get it so wrong?

By Steve Connor, Science Editor

Guests run for cover as rain begins to fall during the Royal Garden Party at Buckingham Palace in July

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Guests run for cover as rain begins to fall during the Royal Garden Party at Buckingham Palace in July

Why are we asking this now?

In case it has escaped your attention, which is unlikely, this summer is rapidly turning into a washout. The bad weather has led the Met Office to revise its summer forecast saying that instead of the warm, dry weather it predicted in April, the beginning of August is likely to be unsettled and wet.

The misery of heavy showers, cooling winds and cloudy skies has dampened expectations that Britain could finally experience the sort of summer it had enjoyed a few years ago before the last two consecutive summers of wetter-than-normal weather. The Met Office's seasonal prediction in April did much to heighten expectations after the last two years of miserable summers.

What did the Met Office actually say in April?

It said that the coming summer is "odds on for a barbecue summer" and that temperatures are likely to be warmer than average and rainfall near or below average for the three months of summer. It predicted times when temperatures would soar above 30C, and although it did not rule out the chance of seeing heavy downpours "at times", it said that a repeat of the wet summers of 2007 and 2008 is unlikely.

Ewen McCallum, the chief meteorologist at the Met Office, put it more succinctly when he said: "After two disappointingly wet summers, the signs are much more promising this year. We can expect times when temperatures will be above 30C, something we hardly saw at all last year... we should be seeing some good hot spells and perhaps get the old barbecue out."

This seems quite definite and clearly wrong?

Yes, but the Met Office also put in plenty of caveats into its forecast, not least of which was the idea that the summer is only "odds on" to be barbecue-friendly. It wanted to get over the idea that any seasonal forecast, which this was, is always going to be couched in statistical probabilities. In fact, its scientists calculated that there was only a "65 per cent" chance of them being right on this, which means there was a 35 per cent chance of them getting it wrong.

Dr McCallum himself emphasised at the time that seasonal forecasts of this nature are still very experimental and there are always a lot of random events connected with the inherently chaotic nature of the weather that can blow a prediction off course. In this respect, the statements by the Met Office were not wrong, just perhaps unduly optimistic – although its April forecast may still turn out to be right.

But we are having a terrible summer – they got it wrong, no?

Not quite, or at least not yet. Although July was a pretty awful month, the weather in June was really rather pleasant with higher-than-normal temperatures, long sunny days and little rainfall. People tend not to remember further back than a week or two when it comes to the weather, and one thing that everyone should be able to recall is that this year's Wimbledon passed off with barely any rain – the new roof over the Centre Court was hardly used.

The other thing to remember is that the summer is not over yet. August could, even with an unsettled start, turn out to be dry, warm and sunny, a scenario that could fulfil the Met Office's April prophesy. As Mr McCallum said yesterday: "The jury's still out for most of August, which could still settle down. The patient's not quite dead yet."

Why did the Met Office make such a rash forecast?

A decade or more ago, the Met Office would not have made such a long-term "seasonal" forecast because the science of forecasting was simply not up to it. However, seasonal forecasts are going to be more common as weather forecasting in general gets better.

Forty years ago, weather forecasts were pretty unreliable, even over a one- or two-day period. In fact, a typical four-day forecast today is as accurate as a one-day forecast 40 years ago. However, short-term forecasts today tend to be very accurate, although the geographical position of the British Isles – a temperate, maritime climate of changeable winds – can still blow them off course.

The Met Office believes that the situation today with seasonal forecasts is about where we were 40 years ago with short-range forecasts. It is possible to give some indication of what is likely to happen over the next few months, but a more precise prediction is not yet possible.

How does anyone predict what the British weather is going to do?

Weather forecasting relies on three things: information coming in from different parts of the world about the weather, computing power to handle and process these data and the skill of human interpretation. All three have got better over time.

Data on changes in air and sea temperature, wind speed and direction, humidity, barometric pressure and cloud cover, combined with the explosive increase in computer power, have enabled scientists to build up accurate models of how the weather is likely to develop over a given area of land. And satellites have transformed the ability of meteorologists to gather data on the changing physical parameters that constitute the weather. They can cover huge areas of land and sea and can operate pretty much non-stop every day of the year.

What makes seasonal forecasting different from normal forecasting?

Seasonal forecasting involves analysing data over longer periods of time, and wider areas of the Earth's surface, than short-range forecasts. Scientists attempt to identify "signals" that could indicate whether a summer or winter period is likely to be wetter or warmer than usual. An important part of the process is looking at the changing state of the sea because it is now clear that one of the most important factors controlling long-term weather trends is the interaction between the ocean and the atmosphere.

But it will only ever be possible to give overall probabilities on the likely outcome of seasonal forecasts because of the inherent randomness of the world's weather system. When the "La Niña" ocean phenomenon of the South Pacific is active, for instance, a wetter-than-normal summer in Europe is four times more likely.

Is the Met Office ever going to be able to give accurate seasonal forecasts?

Yes...

* Satellites have transformed the ability of scientists to gather weather data

* Computers are increasing in power and creating better models of the weather

* We are only beginning to understand long-range weather forecasting

No...

* It made a mess of the previous two summer forecasts – in 2007 and 2008

* Short-range forecasts are very different from making guesses over many months

* The weather is too chaotic and random to ever make accurate long-term predictions

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jihad
[info]tph197 wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 11:53 pm (UTC)
You should ask the Global Warming Jihadists. They know exactly what the weather is going to do in the future.
Re: jihad
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 04:19 am (UTC)
Exactly, carbon taxes you know..Scorching was the word they used. Over 1000 record low Temps in US in June.
Cloudy Crystal Ball
[info]oommike wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 12:22 am (UTC)
They can't predict 3 months in advance, but are planning to squander billions because of forecasts 20 YEARS in advance.
possible chemtrails influence
[info]jmd1 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 02:15 am (UTC)
This kind of strange weather in the summertime is probably going to be there to stay until people start noticing what is actually going on in the skies above them in broad daylight. It would be nice if the author of this article or another Independent journalist could take a serious look at the chemtrails issue. There has been a complete media blackout so far. Even the Met Office aren't talking about it even though recently they are strangely discovering and naming new and previously unseen cloud formations in the sky.
In Japan where I live now we just don't have planes flying overhead spraying us with their junk and consequently it's blue skies and no abnormal weather patterns (and less of the propaganda about global warming thankfully). I was horrified when back visiting England last month to sit in the garden and watch while planes went back and forth all afternoon turning blue skies white with their chemtrails spewing out the back (not to be mistaken with the usual contrails that only last a few minutes at most). It's sad how people these days have been trained so as to be able to see something with their own eyes and still claim it doesn't exist. It may only be a small factor affecting the weather over there, who knows, but it certainly warrants some more serious attention, especially seeing as some parts of America and Canada which also have the chemtrail problem have also been having similarly bizarre and wet summers.
On a side note for any skeptics who refuse to accept that man can manipulate the weather, the UN was talking as far back as the 1970s about the dangers of weather manipulation being used for military or political purposes. Funny how they've been keeping quiet about it recently.
Re: possible chemtrails influence
[info]arclight99 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 06:37 am (UTC)
"chemtrails" as you call them may be unwelcome but they don't explain weather patterns historically. For example jet planes were far more polluting in the 1970-80s, and Healthrow almost as busy yet I don't recall three straight wet summers then. I really doubt that localized chemtrails are responsible for Britain's bad weather nationally. Moreover the yuky British weather is coming to my area (Sweden) a place so empty and free of "chemtrails" I hardly ever see or hear a plane despite living in one of the few built up areas - Stockholm.
Re: possible chemtrails influence
[info]corporeal_v001 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 06:38 pm (UTC)

Do you mean the vapour trails left behind by commercial jets. I saw a documentary about this a couple of years ago. The problem started many decaded ago, but now the jet engines are becoming more efficient and we should see fewer trails (vapour trails might be called contrails). They account for about 17% dimming around regions with busy airports. In the doc they called this "global dimming" effect.

I think you are implying that something extra is being added to these commercial jets to cause these delibrately.
Re: possible chemtrails influence
[info]jmd1 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 01:14 am (UTC)
Vapour trails are the ones we are all used to seeing. They evaporate and disperse very quickly (the typical trails we see with the end furthest from the plane much wider than the end nearest the plane). However, over the past 10 years there has been a worldwide phenomenon, but mainly in North America and the UK as far as I can tell, of planes producing trails of something that is definitely not vapour. And they aren't commercial jets. These are trails which will gradually get wider and wider and stay in the sky for literally hours, turning any blue areas of sky white (and whenever any questions are asked we are given the excuse that they are just normal cirrus clouds).
The UK has a history of testing various chemicals and biological agents on its own citizens and the Ministry of Defence has even admitted in the past that there was a massive programme of spraying going on for a few decades last century with various agents produced at Porton Down. The US government also ran biological experiments on its own cities a few decades ago in which people died, but unfortunately people in the western world refuse to believe that something like that could be true. The reason I mentioned it in this comments section was to bring it to peoples' attention as it has been implicated as a possible reason for the strange changes in weather that have been occurring recently. Some of the residue which has fallen to the ground after mass spraying has tested positive for heavy metals and it is known that certain metals (as well as their obvious damaging affects to health) when sprayed into the atmosphere will seed cloud formation. Admittedly when it comes to the reason it is happening we are venturing into the realms of theory, but the existence of the trails themselves (although you won't notice them everyday and in every part of the country) is undeniable and due to the secret nature of it we can only assume there is something untoward going on.
a 'barbecue summer'?
[info]lakesblue wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 05:58 am (UTC)
Clearly the Met Office is politically motivated. No doubt someone senior there will get a sirship for trying to increase retail sales of garden furniture.
Chmetrails a myth
[info]exogamist wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 07:21 am (UTC)
Chemtrails are an internet born conspiracy theory that alleges secret agencies working pan nationally are spraying the populace with substances in jet contrails to make them linger and spread until they blanket the sky. Motives cited range from biowarfare experiments to attempts to combat global warming. Since the planes are allegedly white and without markings it's hard to believe they could go about their business without being seen. Where do they take off from? As far as I can see the so-called chemtrails are contrials which linger under certain atmospheric conditions. I've checked this in my area by watching the sky. The same jets pass over at the same time every day. They leave the same contrails, normally they dissipate quickly but occasionally they linger and spread. So either they are the same planes and the atmorpheric conditions are different or they are different planes in which case there should be twice as many.And as for the frequently cited claim that they draw tic-tac-toe grids across the sky, of course they do, because the cross the sky from north to south and east to west so obviously the contrials are going to from grids in the sky.
Re: Chmetrails a myth
[info]jmd1 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:24 am (UTC)
Like I said in my original post, it is sad to see how many people have been reduced to the level where they can see something with their own eyes and still deny it's existence. Well done for the imaginative Pavlonian conditioned comments about it all being a conspiracy theory. Atmospheric conditions can never, and will never, be able to explain why the clouds we have started seeing spewing out of the back of planes over just the recent few years linger in the sky for several hours or more. Typical contrails that we all know and have seen for decades never last more than a few minutes.
Re: Chmetrails a myth
[info]exogamist wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:39 am (UTC)
As part of my Pavlovian conditioning I checked out many of the chemtrail websites and found them unconvincing. Then I spent the better part of the past year looking at the sky. I saw regular jet contrails at the same time every day, going in the same patterns. Mostly the contrails disappeared after a few minutes; sometimes they lasted and spread across the sky. It was the same jets, mostly commericial traffic. I know because I could predict after a while which part of the sky they would appear and what time. The only difference I could detect between the days when the trails dissipated and when they spread and lingered was atmospheric. But hey! What do I know, I'm obviously a shill for the New World Order.
Re: Chmetrails a myth
[info]goatjuggler wrote:
Thursday, 13 August 2009 at 03:22 pm (UTC)
the chemtrail argument boils down to

1. There are only four types of cloud

2. anything else must therefore be AN EVIL GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY TO POISON OUR BRAINS! WITH PLANES!

kind of falls over at 1 really.
Who got it wrong?
[info]had_it wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 07:29 am (UTC)
This story is a joy! First the media mis-reported the Met Office forecast - and now they get a second story, blaming the Met Office for the mistake made by their own reporters.

The Met Office said "it is 2:1 on that summer will be hot and dry", the press then said "the summer will be hot and dry". How DID the Met Office get it so wrong? They had lots of help.
It Rains
[info]gaswork wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 07:50 am (UTC)
Well they use some of the most powerful computers in the world and the number crunching are amazing as short range weather forecasts are quite good but to even attempt long rang I don’t think this is possible it’s like blowing smoke and predicting the maths are their but when you blow it again it’s all gone wrong just like this fool Al Gore that can’t understand that never in a billion years has Co2 made any difference to temperature so they try to rectified an unworkable model the short rang weather forecasts are so good you can almost relay on them and as people put they life’s on these I think they have done a fantastic job as for long range weather unless you can see a pattern that repeats it’s self over and over again like in some desert country’s forget it Britain is green because it rains a lot and the thing is it stops at the skin.
Re: It Rains
[info]aisp21 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 11:59 am (UTC)
Obviously you have never read any kind of scientific journals, or even Wikipedia. It is widely accepted that the most probable cause for the ending of the Cryogenian ice age, and subsequent ones, was global warming caused by volcanoes. So yes, in a billion years, carbon dioxide has made a difference to global temperatures.
Weather and Climate are not the same
[info]frwilliams wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:10 am (UTC)
Weather is local and short term, climate is global and long term. Forecasting the two things are different. Why is this not obvious to everyone? Because people are looking for excuses to rubbish the theory of man-influenced climate change.
Stop whingeing about the weather and buy a mac
[info]frwilliams wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:12 am (UTC)
"(In Scotland) there is no such thing as bad weather - just the wrong clothes" - Billy Connolly
Spurious accuracy
[info]qichina wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:24 am (UTC)
"short-term forecasts today tend to be very accurate"

No they don't.
I did an analysis over a 6 month period of met office forecasts that showed the accuracy was worse than flipping a coin. Using the old simple 5-day forecast that they used to have on the online BBC weather page, I cut and pasted the today, tomorrow, next and third day forecasts into a spreadsheet each day. The analysis showed that comparing the today's description of the weather with what had been forecast three days prior, was on average accurate less than 30% of the time. That's basically useless. It's a safer bet to assume that the weather will be the same as today's - that's more accurate than the daily fiction provided to taxpayer's at a cost of £90million p.a.
pressure
[info]rainmanwhy wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:57 am (UTC)
Hi pressure buikds over cold waters, low pressure builds over warm waters. Very simple?

Now despite the things people are saying the poles and the earth have been cooling over the last few years. This could be down to La nina, the point is a large dominant high pressure system has been sitting just north of iceland for the best part of a month (it sat there for both the last 2 summers). This dominant high has been forcing the jet stream to take a dive west of Ireland forcing low pressure systems to swing accross the UK. Unless the high pressure system in the North abates there is very little chance of a settled summer spell. On the plus side, now that el nino has started to take hold there is a real chance of some decent weather (all be it in very late summer early autum. The chances therefore of another really wet summer next year is very unlikely.)

As for Chemtrails, there is a very high possibility that for political reasons weather can be manipulated, i actually believed this is what happened 2 years agao when blair left office. As soon as he left our economy collapsed and the weather got very poor!! Coincedance? maybe.

This is global cooling, (thats not to say global warming doesn't exist, the world warms and cools itself all the time).
The big question
[info]godolphinhill wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 09:44 am (UTC)
Oh dear.........scientists are citing "random events" again! They are quite happy to explain what happens when two balls collide but describe the collision of three as a random event. Why not simply say that weather is a complex process involving many variables and it is difficult therefore to make accurate predictions over long periods?
Best laugh for ages
[info]occamsghost wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 10:40 am (UTC)
Chemtrails are a new one on me, but I love it.

The arguments for them fall down just as delightfully as the ones claiming the Apollo programme was a hoax.

All I need for my entertainment to be complete is for someone to link the two.
Idiotic punctuation
[info]robertclondon wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 12:42 pm (UTC)
"This seems quite definite and clearly wrong?"

Moving on from an inability to use the apostrophe correctly, many people (mostly under 25) now seem totally unable to use the question mark properly.

They are under the impression that putting it after a statement magically transforms it into a question.
Re: Idiotic punctuation
[info]famulla wrote:
Monday, 3 August 2009 at 01:07 am (UTC)
At times the URL makes a goof of the post ? appear as a box and " appears as // I have noticed that the comma is also replace by # It is the USA keyboard playing qwerty and mouse red pointer and the Huge and the fingering THAT I do not have UK pound sigh I have to borrow this from the insert it takes a lot of time inserting puting then posting the the web says page expired refersh? I use the pesos at times I thank you firozali a mulla
BBQ Summer My ****
[info]peddersgang wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 12:57 pm (UTC)
A bit like our Goverment can't believe a word they say!!!!
Credit Crunch Barbeque
[info]pmh200111 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 01:08 pm (UTC)
I thought the met had been paid by someone with vested financial interests to forecast a barbeque summer to give the economy a boost. Seems fairly obvious to me as the forecast was made about the time most people plan their holidays. The good thing to have done, like most things forecast by institutions, would have been to do the direct opposite.
Obsession
[info]originaleskimo wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:41 pm (UTC)
Why did the Met Office get it so wrong?

Because they are so in thrall of Global Warming that every summer will now be predicted to be the hottest ever! Pillocks.
love is strong They won with the lady helping them
[info]famulla wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 02:12 am (UTC)
CONDOMS IN I mean umbrellas short supply
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
The Big Question: Why did the Met Office get it so wrong about a 'barbecue summer'?
[info]famulla wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 05:07 am (UTC)
Is the Met Office ever going to be able to give accurate seasonal forecasts?
Steve Tell me onething that is right on the above comments of yours. Yes and the 3rd is we are new in these fields
Yes...
* Satellites have transformed the ability of scientists to gather weather data Then we lose the databases.
* Computers are increasing in power and creating better models of the weather RIRO GIGO is still with us.
* We are only beginning to understand long-range weather forecasting Yes it is new so are the many IT issues in the health
No...
* It made a mess of the previous two summer forecasts ? in 2007 and 2008 So? Number two above
* Short-range forecasts are very different from making guesses over many months I agree but so are the clouds and wind flows
* The weather is too chaotic and random to ever make accurate long-term predictions
There QED.
Can we now tell the guys who play cricket to pack up faster, clean the pitch and wait for the sun?
Many controvercies here and there, but LO Leave this to ALLAH GOD The mighty He has the winds in His commands.
BUT WE HAVE THIS THIS The United Nations food aid agency said Wednesday it will be forced to cut programs even as hunger soars amid the global economic crisis because pledged donations have failed to materialize.World Food Programme executive director Josette Sheeran said that the agency's 2009 budget of "assessed, approved needs" is 6.7 billion dollars. The WFP now expects, after consultations with governments, donations of 3.7 billion.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
A Swedish couple looking for the pristine waters of the popular island of Capri ended some 660 kilom
[info]famulla wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 08:25 am (UTC)
Andrei Illarionov, chief economic adviser to then-President Putin from 2000 to 2005, He told Radio Free Europe in an interview that the Kremlin has been laying the propaganda ground for a fresh attack. Please ask Illarionov, I do not know if these are LLL or III but not me I swear on the head of the castrated goats.
What is the problem. I say if they want to fight in summer or winter the soldiers are theirs, food theirs, ice cubes theirs, tenets, theirs, the girls serving them theirs, unless you want to go there. Do you have a passport? No? Can we stop here and get our bearing correct.
A Swedish couple looking for the pristine waters of the popular island of Capri ended some 660 kilometres away in the northern industrial town of Carpi after misspelling the destination on their car's GPS. Angelo Giovannini, a spokesman for the Carpi town hall, near Modena, said the couple drove into the main square last week and asked the local tourist office how to reach Capri's famed Blue Grotto sea cave. Giovannini said "we thought they might mean a restaurant. Capri is an island, they did not even wonder why they didn't cross any bridge or take any boat." Some are lucky to have the cars run are they not?
WHY WHY WHY Do I post his here IT tells you that we are ON THE GPS. ALL THE TIME. Do not drink and dive it is bad for the fishes.
I love the two. You see this is one way of staying together for few day holding hands after the marriages. Not many have the luck. IS THAT NOT A GOOD NEWS? F*** Economy. Read the goodies I says
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla


it was a brave thing to do
[info]jon_tiffany wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:02 am (UTC)
Anyone who makes a prediction about the weather, especially in the UK is bound to get it wrong. But to be fair to the met office, they did only say there was a chance of good weather.
Big Chill at the Met Office
[info]muckle10 wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 10:10 am (UTC)
The reason why the Met Office gets its seasonal forecasts so wrong is because they are using climate models to predict the weather.

When people say that "weather is not climate", or vice versa, then they should relay those words directly to the Green Taliban that have hijacked the Met Office and who are more interested in spreading AGW propaganda than in forecasting the actual weather.

weather and climate forecasting
[info]wolfiepeters wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 01:30 pm (UTC)
Weather and climate forecasting: they do not work for long periods into the future.

That doesn't mean there is no global warming, just that predictions of climate models should not be considered as anything like relaible.
weather forcasts
[info]trebormint wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 09:59 pm (UTC)
The met Office do it because they have to do something with their new super duper mega expensive super computer.

A vast spending spree granted on the back of its hubristic fanciful claims about global warming.

It cannot forecast 3 months into the future. Its computer model for 200 years into the future is flawed as well.

The Met Office has lost touch with science - it is a quango looking to justify itself looking to muscle in on whatever it can, it is looking to aggrandize itself. And now of course it cannot afford to say, to admit, it is wrong. Like all the climate grandees they now pervert science to keep their noses in the trough.
Chaos Theory
[info]chiennoir wrote:
Friday, 31 July 2009 at 10:07 pm (UTC)
It's all down to God of Chaos Theory, who I pray every night will thwart the predictions of these smug bastards called scieintists.
[info]talebosh wrote:
Saturday, 1 August 2009 at 07:16 am (UTC)
good weather forcasts were put out to make as many people as possible take their holidays here in the uk. seemed to work as after the announcement bookings went through the roof.
There was no science behind the forcast it was solely given out to get people to take their holiday in uk.
Weather from patterns and chaotic behaviour
[info]corporeal_v001 wrote:
Saturday, 1 August 2009 at 05:36 pm (UTC)

The earth and the Universe has a combination of systematic patterns combined with chaotic and erratic behaviour. The complexity is compounded by the fact that there a very large number of systems, many know and other still to be discovered. These systems (Sun, Moon, position in our solar system, position in the galaxy, solar flares, ocean currents, jetstreams, contrails, earth's magma pulse etc etc) interact with each other to create the weather system.

Humans are good at observing patterns and with satellite monitoring able to get a broad picture of waether patterns across large chunks of the planet. However, in making weather predictions, I suspect the model doesnt take significant notice of erractic behaviour of all the systems.

We are told that this year, the upper atmosphere jetstream path has passed over the UK causing this bad weather. The model may have predicted this, but the model is going to promote the weather which is most likely to occur, not some low probability outcome.
very simple - the Met is trapped in AGW!
[info]ptwells wrote:
Saturday, 1 August 2009 at 09:43 pm (UTC)
The Met Office is a politically correct perveyor of global warming armageddon. Just look at its website. It cannot avoid making more such bloopers in the future. If you assume "the science is settled", then every year that does not follow the global warming trend means that that it is even MORE likely that the following year will be warmer than average. The Met Office is stuck in a trap. If it does not predict that 2010 will be warmer than average, then it can be accused of not accepting the scientific 'truth'. It would be not only a sceptic but a denier! On the other hand, when the heatwave finally does come - as it inevitably will - it will jump up and down with the fact it was predicted and is yet further proof of man-made global warming. Er...how long ago was the warmest year? 11.
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