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The outlook for the rest of the century: 40C summer days

Official report predicts impact of climate change on British weather

By Michael McCarthy, Environment Editor

Drought: Summer rainfall could drop by up to 27%

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Drought: Summer rainfall could drop by up to 27%

Frightening temperature increases which would make life difficult if not intolerable are forecast for Britain during the course of the coming century, according to the latest detailed Government predictions of how climate change may affect the United Kingdom.

London's hottest summer day, which in recent decades has averaged 30.7 degrees Celsius, or 91.6 Fahrenheit, could increase by 10 degrees C to 40.7C or 105.3F, a staggering rise – which would make travel on the London Underground, for example, where the increase would be further magnified, virtually unendurable – with a high probability of increased deaths from heat stress among the old and infirm.

Similar huge increases are forecast for every region of Britain in the first localised forecasts of the potential impacts of global warming. Also for the first time, detailed projections of drought, increased winter rainstorms and sea level rise are made for each area, showing for instance that Southwold, a Suffolk coastal resort already threatened with erosion, faces a sea level rise of 37cm, or 14in, by the 2080s, while London itself could face a similar rise, with the threat of an additional 97cm, or 3ft, of storm surge.

The long-awaited predictions, which update forecasts last made in 2002, were based on extensive computer modelling by the Met Office's Hadley Centre, and were unveiled by the Environment Secretary, Hilary Benn, who said they would "affect every aspect of our daily lives".

Despite a certain level of uncertainty in the models, Mr Benn said, it was clear that climate change was occurring, and he hit out at those denying it, following after sceptical questions in the House of Commons from two Tory MPs, Andrew Tyrie and Peter Lilley. "If there are those in society who still think this isn't happening and we don't need to worry, who think we can pull up the bedcovers and it'll all go away, they are profoundly mistaken," he said.

The predictions are based on different scenarios of the future emissions of the greenhouse gases which are causing the earth's atmosphere to warm, and thus highlight the worldwide need to cut emissions back substantially, which will be the focus of the world climate conference in Copenhagen in December.

At the moment the world is close to the medium emissions pathway, and this is likely to mean an average regional summer temperature rise by the 2080s of 4C, which could be 5C in the south-east.

Summer rainfall under this scenario is likely to drop by between 11 and 27 per cent, meaning drought, and winter rainfall is likely to increase by between 11 and 23 per cent, causing flooding.

However, the important thrust of the new projections for Britain is that we are now committed to quite a lot of climate change, no matter what we do, as the full effects of greenhouse gases take about 30 years to work through from the moment they are emitted and so there is climate change yet to come from carbon dioxide which is already up there.

So the new figures suggest it is virtually certain, whatever climate deal the world can put together, that by the 2040s, summers in southern England will be about 2.3C (more than 4F) hotter on average than they are now. This means that Britain's hottest summer in 2003 when the temperature exceeded 100F for the first time, will in 30 years' time be the norm – and by the 2080s it will seem like a cool summer.

The projections meant, said Mr Benn, "that we must plan to adapt to changes that are now unavoidable" – and they will be the starting point for a major Government effort at climate change adaptation, which will take in everything from flood defence and NHS heatwave planning to how to design roads and buildings and how to help wildlife cope with a changing world.

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Too many variables....
[info]sceptic45 wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:26 pm (UTC)
The problem with these scenarios is that, largely, they are based on an assumption of a 'worst-case scenario'. For example, the current sunspot cycle has failed to appear, indicating a weakening of solar output - and a weakening that could run for several cycles. That in itself could reduce climate change, but the extent of this is unknown.

A further issue I have is the poor reporting; for example, the supposed link between CO2 and GW; CO2 is always seen, on an in-depth study, to follow warming; as opposed to CH4 increases which precede it. CO2 will reinforce warming, but does not seem to be a cause; CH4, on the other hand, seems to be a trigger. Rather worryingly, in light of what is happening with hydrates in Siberia.

I'm not in the anti-CC camp at all - don't get me wrong; but fevered reporting like this, based on research which clearly fails to take into account recent observations, is not going to do any favours to the credibility of the argument.

We need more balance in the reporting, and a bit more scepticism; the arguments need to be presented more clearly and take into account external factors; otherwise the argument cannot be won
Re: Too many variables....
[info]bobav wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 10:37 am (UTC)
Thanks for this astute observation.
I don't believe it.
[info]someofusknow wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 01:00 am (UTC)
The numbers quoted are not compatible. If Britain becomes 4C hotter, the Artic region is likely to be 6 to 10C hotter, meaning most of the Greenland ice will have metlted and there will be a sea level rise of several metres, (7 metres if it all melts) not the 37cm quoted.


'At the moment the world is close to the medium emissions pathway'

The medium the emissions scenario is inconsstent with reality. With the oil supply having peaked, we will witness one of two conditions over the coming few years -either are rapid decline in emissions as industrialism collapses and populations die off, or a huge surge in emissions as people burn coal and trees in a last desperate attempt to maintain current high energy consumption levels and population overshoot for just a bit longer.

Anyway, the 'medium emissions pathway' is highly unlikely to prevail when so many positive freedback mechanisms have already been triggered.
Latent heat of evaporation
[info]00eb56 wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 01:17 am (UTC)
It can't happen in the UK, that's basic physics. The UK is suurounded by water on my map, with no point of the landmass more than 75 miles from the coast. If the day-time land temperature reaches 40 degrees C there will be a thunderstorm every afternoon. Tropical thunderstorms typically drop the temperature to the low 20s C. The UK sea-temperature is too cool for any other outcome. No need to worry about tropical cyclones forming in the Irish Sea. Hillary Benn is profoundly mistaken and needs a good lie-down unser the bed-covers to reduce his over-worked imagination.
Too Brief
[info]romand1 wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 04:50 am (UTC)
If your annual rainfall stays the same, just moves into different months, why not mention the idea of developing methods to capture more of that water? Instead, it's instant drought. Listen bud, we are a very flexible people. Not only can we adapt, we can think too! This article states it takes 30 years for greenhouse gases to complete their impact. Why not expect that nations will voluntarily limit their outputs, adopt other technologies, and after the peak the rates will descend in a nice downhill fashion?
I'd like to read the report this article is based on. It could be meatier. The article itself feels more like balderdash.
Gulf Stream Effect
[info]theelectrician wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 05:51 am (UTC)
The Gulf Stream carries massive amounts of heat from the south-western Atlantic to the west European coastal areas and keeps the UK climate mildly warm, certainly compared to inland Europe in the winter.
If global climate change results in a change to the the Gulf Stream mechanism so that it reduces or even diverts away from us, then the UK is is for a very noticeable cooling of climate.
The Gulf Stream is part of a global ocean water circulation system that is powered by and affected by temperature differences across the entire world and is barely understood even now. After over 50 years of scientific weather research and modeling, we still can't predict what the weather will be like next week with much certainty so how can we predict what will happen to local climate in 10 years time? What could happen to any particular country or local area is a massively complex puzzle that we can only throw a few guesses at.
Happy days
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Friday, 19 June 2009 at 06:12 am (UTC)
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EARTH SUFFERING FROM HUMAN DISEASE
[info]georgesign wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 06:42 am (UTC)
According to the "Eco-Green-Factions" there is nothing worse on this planet than humans. So perhaps Mother Earth is suffering from a virus called "humans" and is having a fever to get rid of us.
a virus
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 07:35 am (UTC)
with boots on
Why do you report this diatribe uncritically?
[info]rhysjaggar wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 06:45 am (UTC)
1. Show me the proof that the temperature rise from 1975 - 1998 has continued to 2009.
2. Show me proof that these 'models' with their 'parameters' are confirmed by real hard experimental proof.
3. Show me that the probabilities assigned to the scenarios can be quantified and tested.
Ifs, buts and maybes become a definite prediction
[info]sheumais wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 07:20 am (UTC)
As the day wore on, the word "could" became less and less prominent. It could become warmer by 2080 is significantly different from telling us we must allocate billions and billions to combat climate change because it is going to become warmer and wetter. I could be a multimillionaire if I guessed the right lottery numbers each week, but I don't.

Not one single penny more of public money should be squandered on this self-serving rubbish.
Load of BS
[info]derekcolman wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 08:02 am (UTC)
The Met office can fairly accurately predict the weather a few days ahead, but even then they often get it wrong. Now we are expected to believe they can make a forecast for 70 years ahead. It seems they base this on computer modelling which has already been shown to be fatally flawed, while totally ignoring actual observation and recent scientific research. The Hadley guys need to wake up to reality and abandon their AGW wet dreams. The fact is that global warming stopped 10 years ago and the earth is now in a cooling phase. Respected scientists have predicted this to continue for the next 20 to 30 years. The 0.6 degree C cooling this century has occured while CO2 levels increased by 5%. There are now peer reviewed papers by respected physicists explaining that the effect of CO2 on global temperatures is minimal, and the greenhouse effect is wrong. Even more surprising is that the Hadley centre is ignoring the evidence in their own graphs.
Re: Load of BS
[info]colinru wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 02:50 pm (UTC)
Mr Colman : To be fair to The Hadley Centre, it is possible that the temps from 1997-2008 are a short-term glitch in a long-term warming trend. I am not sure that I believe it (even though something similar seemed to happen at the end of the forties), but it is possible. We should find out in the next 3 to 5 years.

You are correct that some Scientists, Like Philip Stott (Emeritus Professor of Biogeography, London - not to be confused with the Stott who works at Hadley) think that the trend will be downwards for decades because of the Atlantic Multi-Decadal Oscillation but this will, probably, only give us a breathing space to reduce fossil fuel usage before temps start to climb again. We will have to do this anyway, since fossil fuels are being depleted fairly rapidly.

The strange thing is that, when I have posted that we should increase R&D on Efficiency plus on Fusion and other Renewables to get up to industrial-scale whilst using Fission as a stopgap, I mainly receive abuse from the true believers in AGW (abuse level seems to be inversely correlated, in many cases, with Scientific/Engineering knowledge).

I would appreciate a link to the peer-reviewed papers saying that CO2 is not a climate driver as I have not come across these.
Re: Load of BS
[info]derekcolman wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 08:41 pm (UTC)
colinru, like you, I have had problems tracking down these papers, and have failed on previous occasions. That is likely because popular science magazines are wedded to the AGW theory, and decline to report on them.However, this time I have succeeded in finding one of them from a German scientist. I believe there are 2 or 3 more from Japanese and American scientists. It is co-authored by Gerhard Gerlich and Ralf D. Tscheuschner. Prof. Dr. Gerhard Gerlich teaches Mathematical Physics at the Technical University Carolo-Wilhelmina in Braunschweig (Germany). He is highly qualified on the subject (i.e. not an IPCC railway engineer). You need Adobe reader to open it, and if the pages are small, click on the zoom in button (+).The URL is:-
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0707/0707.1161v4.pdf

Re: Load of BS
[info]colinru wrote:
Saturday, 20 June 2009 at 10:40 am (UTC)
Thank you, Mr Colman. I found that very interesting but was surprised that I found it such heavy going considering that I did Thermodynamics to Degree level. I do not know why I was surprised as it is getting on for forty years and knowledge seeps out of the brain over the years.

I had to take large chunks of it on trust but, those parts that I could check against my old textbooks, seemed correct.

I am not familiar with the International Journal of Modern Physics but will try to look it up when I have more time. Next time someone who is involved in Climates Science posts on one of the sites that I read, I will post your link and ask for their comments! It could be a while though - when Dr Stott of The Hadley Centre sent a letter to The Indie a while back which seemed to contradict his published work, I posted links and asked him to comment but never received an answer (too busy, I suppose).

Thanks, once again for your time.
Still asking the wron question
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 08:47 am (UTC)
Just one more doom and gloom political piece of pseudo science all aimed at the December Copenhagen son of Kyoto conference. As usual given completely biased coverage by the BBC Today programme yesterday morning but more sceptically dealt with on Newsnight.

Veggie Benn's statement yesterday in Parliament was followed by the usual attempt by the Tories to out green Labour and the usual tut tutting by members on all sides until the very end of the questions. Then Andrew Tyrie asked Benn whether the climate models had predicted the levelling of global temperatures and minor fall this century, which of course they did not. Benn's response was blustering, arm waving and saying that the century was only nine years old and that sceptics were a vanishing small number. The last statement was a confounded lie and although the century might only be nine years old, global mean surface temperatures have not risen for eleven years and the entire AGW hypothesis was based on no more than twenty years of global warming data.

Peter Lilley, who I understand graduated as a scientist, then questioned the business of whether the feedback due to water vapour and clouds is positive or negative. Obviously one cannot expect Benn to know about the very dubious assumption made by the AGW theorists that the feedback is always positive, but it did at least lead him to say that he would ask his scientists about the matter. If the feedback is neutral or negative then heating due to carbon dioxide will be a mere one degree or less even if emissions double.

The US NOAA, a usually very AGW alarmist agency have admitted that global warming is on hold and may remain so for twenty years or more. Surely the real question should be what contingency plans does the government have if temperatures continue to fall for a long period as they have done many times in the past?
Think about it
[info]bobbellinhell wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 11:21 am (UTC)
If New Labour are admitting that the outlook is this serious, imagine how much more serious it must actually be.
global Warming
[info]tasker555 wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 12:35 pm (UTC)
The positive of warmer temperatures would be accelerated evaporation of our oceans, therefore decreaing the rise of sea level. I'm excited
It's upon us already
[info]laughterhouse wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 12:36 pm (UTC)
I find here the amazing leisure with which you people are nattering about a catastrophe that is not only inevitable but is happening right under our noses. Perhaps it's because you haven't been hit hard enough by GW, or even been hit at all. But that doesn't mean that you won't be, square between the eyes. I look at my place in the Indian subcontinent and wonder why you haven't taken cognisance of, leave aside learnt from, the massive climatic changes here over the past decade-and-a-half that have brought such grief in their wake: rain in the deserts and post-rain malaria decimating communities that have neither had cause nor opportunity to cultivate immunity to the disease; unseasonal floods due to unseasonal Himalayan snowmelt; widespread glacial liquefaction; droughts during the monsoons and flooding in warm winters; hill denudation (and some of our hills are as high as your mountains); the growth of mangroves along rivers; increasingly ferocious and more frequent cyclones; land erosion in deltaic islands. I could go on. If you want incontrovertible evidence of global warming, all you need to do is come here. Forget about arguing about which agency has the forecast right, or whether a forecast is possible at all, or which model is bullet-proof. I'm only being ironically Biblical, but our sins are upon us already.
Re: It's upon us already
[info]colinru wrote:
Saturday, 20 June 2009 at 10:44 am (UTC)
I think that you will find that most people here are not confusing Climate Change (most agree that it has, does and will) with AGW. The reality of AGW is more debateable as to how much we are contributing to the problem.
Flooding
[info]coroman wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 12:52 pm (UTC)
On several occasions over the past ten years I have written to the relevant Government Department (and to one or two builders) to suggest that we should have a programme of building affordable housing on stilts in the wetlands and flood plains. I ws impressed with such construction of housing in the Florida Keys. Civil servants keep telling me that the suggestion is outlandish and unneeded. Now I see that Worcestershire Cricket Club have got the message. Hooray! Can we all think about it some more?
Surely we need to cover every avenue of potentially...
[info]samanthagearing wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 01:30 pm (UTC)
...catastrophic climate change. There are many valid theories that people have expressed on here of potential change in our climate. So without getting into a 'heated' (excuse the pun) debate about it, I think its important we are aware and take into consideration of any future change in our weather system and climate. One thing I do agree on though In the article is that this change we are witnessing is deffinetly inevitable!

Remember that we a just a product (dare I say maybe not a particulary helpfull one) of our surroundings and that we will never be completely incontrol of our destiny upon this collected ball of ancient star dust.
;)
Global warming isn't just theories for the people living it already
[info]rockcliffe wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 04:56 pm (UTC)
For the Inuit people of the Canadian Arctic, global warming's already having a serious effect on daily life. Sooner or later, it's going to have a major impact even on 'Independent' readers living in more temperate zones. What does it take to persuade people that we need to start planning ?
The outlook for the rest of the century?
[info]bb_matt wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 06:07 pm (UTC)
Really, so starting from *this* summer, we'll be seeing 40c days?

This is why I start to wonder why on earth I still read the Indi - your so hell bent on your own agenda, in this case, pushing climate change down our throats, you sensationalise everything to ridiculous levels.

We have *no* way of knowing what the temperature is going to be like in 2080, or even next year.
The sheer amount of variables in the climate makes any predictions meaningless.

Yes, if the climate models panned out *exactly* as scientists predict, we could indeed se a scenario like this, but we all know they won't.

This smacks of headline grabbing, like so many of your articles on climate - pluck the worst case scenario from an outcome and report it as fact.

As someone has pointed out, the temperature in Britain would struggle to keep that high because we'd get pounded by thunderstorms, bringing the temperature down again. Then there's the gulf stream impact on our climate.
Right
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 07:05 pm (UTC)
I'm really worried, worried that hot air emissions from government muppets is likely to increase in the future. It wasn't long back we were going to get an ice age, now we are getting wamer summers (supposedly a bad thing?). I don't know what to think anymore except the science always fits the agendas of those spouting it.
Right
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Sunday, 21 June 2009 at 01:40 am (UTC)
I'm really worried, worried that hot air emissions from government muppets is likely to increase in the future. It wasn't long back we were going to get an ice age, now we are getting wamer summers (supposedly a bad thing?). I don't know what to think anymore except the science always fits the agendas of those spouting it.
Panic over Climate Change
[info]slammer06 wrote:
Thursday, 25 June 2009 at 03:36 pm (UTC)
This is a poorly written (just how many times do you have to use the word "certain"for a start?), unscientific and inaccurate article: even the Met Office disagrees with your figures. You are confusing peaks and averages and using projections with which many disagree while stating them as facts. Classic red top stuff from my favourite paper. Shame on you.
Re: Panic over Climate Change
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Friday, 26 June 2009 at 03:01 pm (UTC)
Similar govt BS to swine flu.

Read and pse pass on. Maybe this will be the next headline after MJ passing.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html
[info]markeyb wrote:
Monday, 29 June 2009 at 01:44 pm (UTC)
Alot of global warming sceptics argue against AGW because we are currently in a period of solar inactivity, yet it seems to be heating up to me. This summer in England is going to be hot, it's a sure sign that temps are rising and we could well be on for 40c days. Better stock up on icecream and suntan lotion...
Global Propaganda
[info]barayehamishe wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 04:23 am (UTC)
Global warming is a bunch of HOT AIR! Al Gore has made millions as the world frenzy to control the sun reaches new heights! Please spare me the polar bear (which are doing just fine) and arctic ice cap(last report is expanding) B.S.
I'm going back to the beach and read the Sunday times. I only hope the water is a tad bit warmer....I'm thinking of going for a swim (even though it's a sharkless (thanks China) infested, plastic bottled (thanks America), oil sanded (Thanks BP) stretch of primordial goo.)

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