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Government launches bid to allay fears over GM food

PM hopes to gather enough evidence to prove genetically modified crops are safe

By Andrew Grice, Political Editor

China says that its hybrid rice is an achievement that has helped the country's food security

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China says that its hybrid rice is an achievement that has helped the country's food security

The Government has asked its top scientist to investigate the merits of genetically modified food in the hope that his verdict will allay public fears about so-called "Frankenstein foods".

Officially, Gordon Brown and his ministers remain neutral on the issue of GM because of public hostility, saying that they will be "guided by the science". But they have quietly ordered a major research project, which they hope will provide the launchpad for a campaign to persuade people that GM food is safe.

The study will be led by Professor John Beddington, the Government's Chief Scientific Officer, and carried out by the Foresight Institute, a science and technology think-tank that looks into long-term issues for the Government.

The group's remit – how to feed a world population which could rise to nine billion by 2050 – makes no mention of the GM issue. But Jane Kennedy, the minister for Farming and the Environment, told The Independent yesterday that the group's work would include the potential for GM crops and food.

She said that she was "cautious" about allowing GM products in Britain, but added: "My own opinion is less important than what John Beddington might come up with. When the public are deeply concerned and hold strong views, they tend not to listen when ministers express a view. But they will listen to those who have the experience and knowledge to be able to offer solid advice."

Ms Kennedy said that she would welcome GM crop trials in Britain. None is currently taking place because all projects have been vandalised by opponents but the Government may fund an experiment at a "secure" location.

The minister said another reason why the issue had to be addressed was that animal feed, such as soya, was increasingly made using GM products. "The options for those countries which want to stay GM-free are reducing, therefore the price of non-GM animal feed is going up. If that trend continues, it means meat products in countries which choose not to use GM becoming more and more expensive. There are clear implications for the UK," she said. Britain is backing moves by the European Commission to relax EU rules on importing GM animal feed but a majority of member states remain cautious.

Several Cabinet ministers are convinced that GM technology will help to solve the world's food crisis. One said: "Gordon Brown wants a debate about the issue. But he wants it to be led by the scientists, not by politicians. We have now put the ball in the scientists' court."

Environmental groups accused the Government last night of trying to sneak in GM food, despite accepting the findings of a four-year international study involving 400 scientists last year which failed to give GM the green light.

Clare Oxborrow, the senior food campaigner at Friends of the Earth, said: "[The Government] is obsessed with GM as a techno-fix solution to problems in food and farming which are much more complex."

The official remit for the Government's study says that"the project will look out to 2050 and take a global view of the food system [and]... how new science, policies and interventions could best address future challenges".

Also on the agenda will be the pressures on land used for non-food purposes such as biofuels.

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GM
[info]thomasth wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 03:20 am (UTC)
Yet again, New Labour wants to haul us off in a disastrous direction. As a culture New Lab seems addicted to acts of mass folly. Why are they so deluded? I suspect it stems from some unwholesome addiction to power, and the concomitant wish to concentrate it.
Re: GM
[info]someofusknow wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 05:02 am (UTC)
I think you will find that none of what we have been witnessing can be described as 'acts of folly', but that Gordon Brown and his associates (like Tony B Liar before him) are acting within the framework of the Bilderberg/New World Order agenda, which requires subtle sabotage of societies (boiling the frog by slowly raising the temperature, rather than dropping it straight into hot water so it hops out) with ever greater concentration of control in the hands of a few corporations, ever greater 'security concerns', ever greater surviellance, ever greater restriction on the freedoms of general poplulace etc. in order that some kind of Orwellian system can be established in the future. One the food, water and energy systems are under corporate control, the populace becomes helpless.

You can be certain that none of it is about solving world hunger, since the Green Revolution is at the point of catastrophic failure for more reasons than can be listed in this forum.
Green movement has bigger fish to fry.. shut up about GM!
[info]dwdp wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 03:43 am (UTC)
Unfortunately GM is a giant distraction for the green movement, which (let's face it) has far bigger fish to fry. I consider myself a greenie but I am sick and tired of the pseudo-spiritual arguments against GM.
The green movement needs to stop insulting people's intelligence; if there is a problem with unsustainable farming and overconsumption, say so, but don't lump these issues in with the unrelated issue of GM for marketing purposes.

Unfortunately there a are big parallels between the climate-change-denier people and the all-GM-is-bad people. Both cherry-pick data and distort the science to make their points. Both refuse to accept the majority opinion of the experts in the field. Both claim a giant conspiracy on the basis of scant evidence. They are on opposite sides of the political divide but both share a contempt for science and evidence-based policy.
GM
[info]stewartpa wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 05:56 am (UTC)
The 'Let scientists take the lead approach' is flawed because it assumes that scientists know all the answers. They do not. They do not even know all of the questions, and why should we expect them to? Understanding the complex interactions between organisms and systems that have evolved over thousands of millions of years is beyond science's current knowledge base and scientists should have the humility to admit so and take their lead from Darwin in this respect. All we will end up with is another debate between two groups of scientists, in a fog created by politicians and commercial lobbies.

If they add into the equation, as they must, global warming (a good example of how little we understand the world we live in and on), the impact of water shortages and politics, what expectation of the outcome would any rational person have? The government really expects the public to listen to those who have the knowledge and experience to offer solid advice! These people do not exist. Enough said.
and, where will they find..
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 05:56 am (UTC)
that evidence? In falsified studies, ghost written by professors and doctors who took no part in the studies, as now exposed in the once hallowed Medical and Scientific Journals?
GM is poisonous
[info]panic2009 wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 06:17 am (UTC)
research the data (non big agri business/government sponsored websites) and see for yourselves. we are being forced to accept corporations controlling even more of our lives. it is dangerous and levels of disease and toxicity in GM food is alarming. once these parasites control the food supply we are all doomed. stand up now and be counted. these bastards cannot be trusted. in the good old USA now they are already bringing out laws to BAN ORGANIC MARKETS AND GROWING VEG IN YOUR OWN GARDEN!!!!!! they want it all. and they want to put vaccinations in these foods etc. it is not natural. it will destroy the human race as we know it. and once GM crops overpower natural ones there is no turning back. NATURE IS NATURE IS NATURE. look where greed has got us with the banking system and control of the money supply. can you imagine the same people in control of all the food we eat?

GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brown is hoping...
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 08:15 am (UTC)
... hoping like Blair that a point of no return can be attained and then we will have these monstrous plans foisted upon us regardless.

GM technology was maybe once a good idea, started off on work developed by a batty old Colonel in Brighton, it is now in the hands of a very evil corporation who is exerting enormous pressure on every nation on this planet to take up its terminator technology and GM stocks.

We are apparently supposed to be alleviating world poverty, this corporation I mention wants such as poor African farmers be denied the right to keep their own seeds and only use the seeds that have to be bought from this company, the implications on control is horrendous as suddenly this company if it gets its way will gain a massive control on every plate in the planet... It is no mistake that US corporations are looking to control the basic necessities of life, from buying swathes of land that sit on top of aquifers to controlling every method of cereal and corn production, it would be a coup that this planet could not recover from.
Ask the US
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 08:21 am (UTC)
America has been consuming GM crops for years. Surely our best move is to find out what empirical studies they have undertaken and base our decision on scientific measurements, not fear or pseudo science.
Re: Ask the US
[info]seraphblueprint wrote:
Tuesday, 7 April 2009 at 09:41 am (UTC)
How can such studies be conducted in the States, when Monsanto made sure that the foods weren't labeled to begin with, so nobody knows what they are eating.
WHAT A LOAD OF OLD COBBLERS
[info]soaring_eagle1 wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 08:36 am (UTC)
Once more Brown licks the boots of industry and yet again an industry which not only will turn our fields into dust bowls, but is already doing so in North America, before anyone in Britain with an ounce of intelligent little grey cells says that GM crops are OK, you should read about how in North America where GM crops have been grown for quite some time unknown to the people living in these areas. The farmers now have big problems bringing fertility back to thier ground. It is called Seeds of Doubt and you can access a copy from the Soil Association.

Money is the only interest of Bio Technology companies( the don't give a damn about the human race) and if they are so interested in feeding the world and especially third world countries why do they invent seeds that will not be able to be reused after the first crop. Its a no brainer, because they want the poor people of third world countries to buy more seed at inflated prices and use the vile chemicals which are supposed to fertilise the ground but end up killing every living thing in the soil, thus leading to dust bowl fields.

This is not the way to go, Organic growing on a huge scale will be beneficial and is far more healthy than seeds with built in antibiotics and vitamins, If we want good healthy food that doesn't literally kill the earth this is the only way we can go.
Re: WHAT A LOAD OF OLD COBBLERS
[info]vhawk1951 wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 01:13 pm (UTC)
well said, I think, my instinctive thought after nearly 60 year of life is that it is generally bad idea to tinker with a mechanism that one does not fully understand. We may find ourselves pulling strings that operate untold levers with untold consequences. leave Nature alone I say.Anyway I'm sick of Gollum Brown kissing any available bottom
[info]onecommonsense wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 08:53 am (UTC)
Making a conclusion, then gathering evidence to prove it is flawed science and will never be accepted as anything other than (the great Einstein himself reportedly tried and failed in this methodology in his latter years). One must gather all possible evidence and then make the most likely conclusion from the observations, stipulating exactly which assumptions were made along the way and which angles still need to be covered. That is the only way science can and does work: no assumptions, a strictly open mind, total impartiality.
Non-political scientists
[info]bobirving wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 09:12 am (UTC)
I'm sorry but I can't see Sir John Beddington as being non-political. If he isn't a political man, how did he get to be Chief Scientist? And if he isn't a supporter of the Government, why did they appoint him?
Austrian Gov't study: GM is NOT safe... more scary: start food chain in commercial hands!
[info]globalnomad73 wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 09:22 am (UTC)
The debate on GM is often focused on safety... well it's NOT safe, see e.g. Austrian Gov't study: http://bmgfj.cms.apa.at/cms/site/attachments/3/2/9/CH0810/CMS1226492832306/forschungsbericht_3-2008_letztfassung.pdf But even if it were safe... the MAIN problem with GM is that we'd be putting the start of the food chain in the hands of global commercial companies whose ONLY interest is to make profit... not save the world, and other 'cuddly' wrappings that the GM industry is trying to use.
We Ain't Gonna Take IT!
[info]arion444 wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
When will these jokers get the message. We DO NOT WANT GMO'S in our food supply.
(no subject) - [info]arcesileus - Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 06:54 pm (UTC) Expand
We; the people have com to realise...
[info]solvoxuno wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 09:37 am (UTC)
We; the people have com to realise that trusting what our governments tell us can seriously
damage our health and human rights.
Abusive
[info]arion444 wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 09:44 am (UTC)
It is difficult to take in that after all the outright lies this government has and is still commiting, that anyone would even consider swallowing some scientific data commissioned and rolled out by same government. Maybe they really think we are all idiots, and deserve to die via poisoning the food chain. Not just war criminals now, no, they're going for complete ecocide and the death of Nature on this Planet.

As Treebeard said in Lord of the Rings, there is no curse great enough in the tongues of Elves, Men and Dwarves to describe such treachery.
there is enough food in the world...
[info]casrobinson wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 09:46 am (UTC)
it's just that us in the west eat up to 9 times more than those in developing countries.

GM food won't solve economic boundaries and trade negociations!
missing the point
[info]casrobinson wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 09:48 am (UTC)
GM food won't feed the poor or the hungry...

there is enough food in the world. it's just that we in the west eat 9 times more than those in developing countries. our greed is killing the planet.

GM food relies on oil to supply fertilisers etc

We need to use permaculture not mon-culture!
Motivation?
[info]stainton wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 10:22 am (UTC)
What exactly is in this for the Government? We already waste about one-third of the food we grow, and that is with land set-aside as mandated by the EU. There seems to be no point whatsoever in increasing yield even more, unless the Government is determined to make everyone even more obese.
Nonsense
[info]rosethistle wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 10:30 am (UTC)
GMO has been tested by independent scientists and has been proved by these scientists to effect the DNA adversely; it is dangerous. Permaculture has proved extremely productive; also there is much evidence (though suppressed) that natural farming produces are larger crop than GMO. many farmers in India have committed suicide due to failed GMO crops. Plus, a big important plus, is unlike natural seeds, which can be gathered and saved to plant another years crops, with GMO you have to buy them from the company every year.
It is all about control: Control the food chain and you have total control.
Codex Alimentarius
[info]nordend wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 11:34 am (UTC)
Please get active and sign the petition!

http://www.anhcampaign.org/campaigns/codex
An interesting read
[info]concretedave wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 11:53 am (UTC)
http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2009/03/12/gmo-and-morgellons-disease-2/

GM food is patented food. There is so much I want to say about this. Coming from a farming community in Canada. But I can't put words to my hatred of GM foods. True it has existed alot longer than we think, with hybridization/cross breeding etc..
The main problem with GM foods, is that, in a lab yes they grow yes, they are resistant to disease (if you use other products to spray them). The current GM attitude does not help poor farmers in countries that need the food. The plants grow, they produce (whatever it is). The product is sterile, therefore instead of saving a few seeds to sow the next year. The poor farmer has to buy more. With a sterile product, what are the health benifits to the consumer? Might as well eat plastic. I'm no expert. But look at how GM food has slowly been introduced into our diets (it'll be hard to find, but it's there), and look at the modern 'epidemics' of obesity, Type 2 diabetes, ADHD, cancers and on and on.
Is There Nothing These People Won't Sell Off?
[info]kaptainkitten wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 12:10 pm (UTC)
New Labour seem to wish to hand over everything to private control.

Even our very lives (as detailed in massive databases) will eventually surely be available to the highest bidder.

With gradual privatisation of government departments comes a form of dictatorship, I don't think that is too strong a word for what is going on.

You can see why New Labour would be keen on the GM concept, the concept is ownership of food of course and has nothing to do with "feeding the world". Controlling people is the real point.

It's like all the social development of the last few hundred years is being reversed before our very eyes.


It's a return to the absolute power of the monarchs, just very very slowly.
What part of NO don't you understand Brown?
[info]jillox wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 12:12 pm (UTC)
They tried this before and the people were emphatic, they did not want GM foods/crops, yet here we have comrade Brown and his greedy, grasping business mates, again riding roughsod over the will of the electorate. 'Lessons learned', don't make me larf!
Beware
[info]stickytruth2 wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 02:02 pm (UTC)
What Brown or his Nu Lab's tell the public will no convinces us concerning GM plants/foods.
Since American company Sammontana developed GM plants years ago, they have tried many methods to hid the true facts on the safety and after effect to the humane race and the earth, just check on the Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace.
furthermore when Mandy was European Commissioner he tried to fast track regulations to pass the use of GM plants/food into Europe' plus the America authorities passed 1000 tons of GM rice into Europe disguised as non-GM??
If Brown wants GM plants/food, then let him put GM products in his home country Scotland.
Once the ground has had GM plants in the ground, after the earth becomes useless.
Avoid it
[info]scousekraut wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 02:24 pm (UTC)
You will never get me eating this stuff. Sadly most people couldn't care less what they eat, or where it comes from but perhaps now that more people have time for their gardens they will start growing more of their own food. Lots of good urban farming schemes around in the cities too.

GM food is all about big money controlling more and more. Iit is about centralisation of farming and seed production. The idea that we cannot grow enough food to feed us all naturally is total rubbish and propaganda.

In the 1930' depression of America tens of thousands of small farms went bankrupt and the big boys came in and took their place. This must not happen again.
Free Choice?!!!!!!!!!
[info]albigense wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 05:40 pm (UTC)
Brave lovers of freedom and independence! Even if there are enough of you to form a majority, does it look like the current crop of leaders will listen to YOU, rather than force their pre-determined agenda on to you all?

Look at the current fluoride situation (another poison) where local authorities in Southampton have stormed ahead with adding to the water supply against the wishes of over 70% of the local population. And it seems that Bristol is about to follow suit. Read up on fluoride and its potential impact on human health.......
GM
[info]albigense wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 05:55 pm (UTC)
Spot on!
GMO Foods need clinical trial testing the same as new drugs
[info]buxov wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 07:33 pm (UTC)
The medical profession needs at least 5-10 years of clinical trails as well as full filling many other criteria before they can launch a NEW drug to the market.

GMO foods have been flowing on and off our supermarkets shelves for many years without a single trail.

It will be high time that the Chief Medial persons of every country takes a closer look at what is really going on with regard to these GMO seeds, pesticides and subsequent foods.

A concerned person on this planet earth.
Sorry but all you anti-GM people sound exactly like the climate change denialist crowd
[info]dwdp wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 11:04 pm (UTC)
Cherry picking data and ignoring the weight of scientific evidence? Check.
Claiming there's a giant conspiracy on the basis of no evidence? Check.
Links to dubious, non-peer-reviewed studies, blogs and opinion pieces? Check.
Emotive overhyped language (ALL GM IS POISONOUS!!! OMG OMG OMG)? Check.

In my experience, anti-GM arguments fall into three categories.
1) Arguments that corporate control of food, patenting of genes, and unsustainable agriculture is bad ..which is all true, but would be (and is) happening with or without GM.
2) Arguments based on cherry-picked data or minority opinions of some scientists (which is a valid argument until you deliberately ignore any data or opinions which you don't agree with, which is always)
3) Arguments that the earth spirit will cry or that mixing the life force of species is wrong (despite the fact that species swap genes all the time and that you share most of your genes with a cabbage) or that GM food is soulless or that they aren't "natural" .. essentially religious positions that just can't be argued with.
Ms kennedy
[info]osamabedlinen wrote:
Wednesday, 18 March 2009 at 11:56 pm (UTC)
oh dear for Ms kennedy stating there is no GM crops being grown in the UK.well wake up missus as there is a rebel farmer out there who is actually growing GM maize he has imported from spain and now growing,we believe,without a license from the biotech company.
he also has broken the 'GM free' zone of wales and handed more seeds out to unknown farmers.
his name is j harrington of Pen-Y-Lan , Tregoyd, Brecon, LD3 0SS.
his details are freely available on the internet,as he hasnt taken the time to hide himself and DOES want to be well known for his outlandish antics of frankenstein farming.

this farmer is a 'consultant' for a company who promote the growth of GM crops which is directly funded by the biotech companies who want so desperately to break into the GM crop market in the UK.

as all farmers state its for a better yield etc so we can feed the starving millions on this planet.
so then,how many farmers export from the UK to these under nourished countries???

dont accept GM crops in the UK otherwise you will end up being recipe farmers for the biotech companies.these companies dictate to the farmers in canada and usa how,when and where they grow 'their' crops.



Poisoning the food supply
[info]pat_donnelly wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 02:54 am (UTC)
Does anyone not remember Agriculture Minister Gummer feeding his children burgers made with nvCJD?
[info]cruise4 wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 03:08 am (UTC)
Top Scientist equals 'Government shill'. So called experts mostly seem to be about lying. Wheel out as many of these lunatics as you wish. We have looked into GM, it's poison, scientists don't know what they are doing in this area, they don't even know where memory resides. Grants and the Peer Review keep scientists firmly in the governments control. That's on top of their dumbed down education, and lets' not forget two people control pretty well every bookshop, magazine, tv program and satellite. It's no wonder people are believing utter nonsense. The truth is the Government are Nazis, the age old dream of Global dicatorship is rising again and as per usual it has an accompanying eugenics policy. GM is a major part of the latter. Just ask the Indian farmers with mutated babies, mutated animals, dead animals, dying crops, failing ecostructures and all at the behest of the Monsanto crazies. War isn't looming. It's here now and has been for generations. That's why hospitals are full of people who had vaccines, drink fluoride, eat frankenstein fast foods and now breathe our toxic chemtrailed air whilst living in a sea of electrosmog. No Mr Brown, the way to cure the manufactured food problem is very clear. Get rid of criminal murdering government who have actively caused pretty well every last horror on the face of the earth throughout modern history,
Liars
[info]gaius_godd wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 03:56 am (UTC)
Nu-lab have been unmasked over the "decade of deceit" as mendacious, undemocratic, untrustworthy, obsessed by spin, and now finally incompetent.

We need an election to dump this useless lot of liars.
Once again
[info]gazzer12 wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 08:31 am (UTC)
Its amaziing that people really believe this will solve the world food problem, its just companies making money and controlling us. Kissinger once said control the oil you control the country, control the food you control the people.
Once this GM crap is all over the world, there is no going back, all plants will be contaminated, no more organics, no natural food. Why you think they call it contamination! There is enough food on this planet to go round for all. No but the GM lobbyist have you believe otherwise. Take the case of Indian farmers who were told to grow GM cotton. It produce less cotton and the goats that ate it died. You noticed there are less birds, insect today, the blues skies have chemtrails. and so on
GM will make the world sterile. I believe in Karma, and these people who enforce on us for profits will one day and to reap the consequences, that people are suffereing. All these allergies are around because of there experimnets. (Dont give in fight this time)
Re: Once again
[info]loren_e wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 02:25 pm (UTC)
Yo gazzer,
The reason "they" call it contamination is that the anti-GM organic types need some sort of red herring to throw into this argument to justify the tactic of litigating the competition out of business, as opposed to out competing them. Face it, the only real problem you folks in the UK have had with contamination (in the real sense), was the organic corn meal that got pulled a few years back. Of course, you might not remember, the press kind of swept that under the rug ;)
No control
[info]voodoojedizin wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 02:34 pm (UTC)
You have no control over your government.
You have no control over your police.
You have no control over corporate giants.

And now you will have no control over your farming.


Isn't a living in a free democratic society wonderful? It's a lie.
GM
[info]mrsspeedy wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 03:38 pm (UTC)

'The World According to Monsanto' on Google Video is an excellent Documentary into why Genetically Modified Food is dangerous - nutritionally, economically and politically.

Journalists should be investigating and reporting on Codex Alimentarius - The Food Code, devised by the WHO back in the early 60's which if introduced by the EU (Dec 2009) would mean the forced sale of GM foods, plus the banning of vitamins and minerals (apart from worthlessly small dosages >35 mg), irradiation of all food, necessary use of antibiotics in all livestock, plus the discarding of food labeling, so the consumer can't see whether he/she is buying GM/Cloned or normal meat. Result = the death of the Organic Food and naturopathic industry by stealth and nutritionally a much poorer and sicker population = greater reliance on allopathic medicines and big pharma
GM
[info]nude_eel wrote:
Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 05:41 pm (UTC)
"The minister said another reason why the issue had to be addressed was that animal feed, such as soya, was increasingly made using GM products."
The answer then is to stop eating meat. The future is vegetarian, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/3559542.stm and http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/12/26/1040511131521.html
"Several Cabinet ministers are convinced that GM technology will help to solve the world's food crisis."
So they think they know better than the 400 scientists from 60 different countries working over 3 years to produce the UN report which concluded that GM crops are not a solution for poverty, hunger or climate change.
(no subject) - [info]arcesileus - Thursday, 19 March 2009 at 06:05 pm (UTC) Expand
The crops themselves aren't even the greatest danger
[info]fluffymcdeath wrote:
Friday, 20 March 2009 at 04:20 am (UTC)
The real danger is the patents that allow companies to control the food supply and harass smaller food producers and seed savers out of business. When the day comes that you can't legally grow your own food even on your own land without paying some agri-company for a license, then we will all be truly owned.
GM FOOD
[info]gangelo wrote:
Friday, 20 March 2009 at 04:17 pm (UTC)
Here in america they don't tell you anything about what food is or isn't GM food,but what makes you think your foom isn't already gen modified?Once they say they start a "GM crop trial" it doesn't go away...it infects any organic crop due to winds,pollen carried by bees,etc....
Seminal posters...
[info]truth_rising wrote:
Sunday, 22 March 2009 at 07:41 am (UTC)
...they are so easy to spot. It is well known now here in the US that the progressives have hired a legion of bloggers and postes to blindly refute any gvmnt opposition. It is so obvious when someone has drunk the kool-aid and won't even think to do their own research. I found a help-wanted ad on craigslist recruiting EXACTLY that. An army of brainwashed attention-wanters who get a job and a pat on the back to SPREAD LIES. hmmm... I think I can remember something like this long ago...

dON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID, AND DON'T SWALLOW THE POISON!
There is a new paradigm shift.. it is TRUTH.. the liars are being exposed and are PANICKING...
Join the TRUTH brigade... do your homework and spread the word peacefully!
The honeybees in N. America are dying off from eating GM crop pollen.. we're next
Seminal Posters...
[info]truth_rising wrote:
Sunday, 22 March 2009 at 07:44 am (UTC)
...they are so easy to spot. It is well known now here in the US that the progressives have hired a legion of bloggers and posters to blindly refute any gvmnt opposition. It is so obvious when someone has drunk the kool-aid and won't even think to do their own research. I found a help-wanted ad on craigslist recruiting EXACTLY that... refute any bad publicity! An army of brainwashed attention-wanters who get a job and a pat on the back to SPREAD LIES. hmmm... I think I can remember something like this long ago...

dON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID, AND DON'T SWALLOW THE POISON!
There is a new paradigm shift.. it is TRUTH.. the liars are being exposed and are PANICKING...
Join the TRUTH brigade... do your homework and spread the word peacefully!
The honeybees in N. America are dying off from eating GM crop pollen.. we're next
The GMO truth...
[info]truth_rising wrote:
Sunday, 22 March 2009 at 08:30 am (UTC)
Einstein said that if the bees ever die, we will be next, because there will be no natural crop pollination... look it up. Turns out that the gm crops contain petroleum-based pesticides that grows IN the plant. These ingrown pesticides weaken the bees' immune system to the point where parasites and fungi can attack and kill them. Scared yet?... no?... well let me continue to freak you out with truth(look it all up)...

Mogellon's disease is becoming wide-spread here in the USofA and abroad. You can check out the bizarre symptoms online yourself, but a prominent independent biologist has claimed that people with this new disease have flesh that is immuno-suppressed and resembles the chemical conditions of soil, allowing plant-attacking fungi and parasites to grow in human skin. Think there's a connection? Don't let anger or fear control you, stay logical and focused. Verify, understand, and take non-violent action against this horror. This is your life, NOT theirs... at least do it for your kids (and mine), please...
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[info]alozaina wrote:
Monday, 23 March 2009 at 10:43 am (UTC)
There is a sea of information about GM crops on the internet, and apart from propoganda issued by the big conglomerates like Monsanto, whos declared inention is to control the global food supply, everything else says it is VERY BAD NEWS and to be avoided at all cost!

Follow this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swVjzIVqRUA
[info]franchise999 wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 01:42 pm (UTC)
yes, we take away with one hand and give back with another. when will we every know what to beleive from these Food Franchise people

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