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Devout nurse quits job over crucifix ban

By James Woodward, Press Association

A Christian hospital worker who was ordered to remove a crucifix "which could harbour infection" has left her job in protest.

Devout Helen Slatter, 43, was told by Gloucestershire Royal Hospital the necklace posed a health and safety risk and could even be used as weapon.

Ms Slatter, a blood sampler - or phlebologist - was not content to accept the hospital's offer that she wear the emblem in her pocket and has now resigned.

The mother of one said she was not willing to choose between her job and her religion, despite the NHS trust insisting the issue was about safety, not faith.

The divorcee told the Gloucestershire Echo: "They made it clear that if I went back the hospital would send me home if I was wearing my crucifix.

"I am not willing to stop wearing it, so I have been left with no choice but to leave my job. They are the NHS and aren't going to back down - I'm not sure if I'd want to work somewhere where I had been treated like this anyway."

When the deadlock occurred last month Mrs Slatter, who worked at the hospital for five years said: "I've always worn my cross and I've always been a Christian. It is important to me. I've worked here for 15 months and if it was an issue, why didn't they let me know in the interview?

"The NHS have spend money training me."

The cross was worn under the uniform, said Ms Slatter who attends St Peter's Catholic Church in London Road.

If she had come back wearing the cross the hospital would have sent her home for reasons of "health and safety and infection control", she revealed.

A spokesman for Gloucestershire NHS Trust confirmed today that she had handed in her notice. An "informal" non-disciplinary meeting last month failed to reach a solution, the trust said. A fuller statement is expected this afternoon.

When the row erupted in May the trust said: "The issue is not one of religion. The trust employs a uniform policy which must be adhered to at all times.

"Necklaces and chains present two problems - firstly they provide a surface that can harbour and spread infections, and secondly they present a health and safety issue whereby a patient could grab a necklace or chain and cause harm to a member of staff."

Jewellery is restricted to one pair of plain ear studs and one band-type ring on the ring finger, the trust added.

Mrs Slatter finished her shift on May 12 and never returned after being signed off with stress.

The case echoes that of Nadia Eweida, who clashed with British Airways after refusing to take off a crucifix. BA later changed its policy to allow staff to wear a "religious symbol".

Last year bank nurse Caroline Petrie, from Weston-super-Mare, Somerset faced disciplinary action after a patient complained that she had offered to pray for her.

The primary care trust later agreed that she could continue to pray for patients as long as she asked first them if they had any spiritual needs.

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Pure petty stupidity
[info]greyno wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 12:41 pm (UTC)
I am a nurse and have never been able to understand why wedding rings are allowed. Weares rarely take them off to wash underneath them, they harbour moisture and heat - perfect for growing bacteria and are in direct contact with a patient through their wearers hands, whereas a crucifix - or anything around the neck is not!

If they allow wedding rings then logically there is no reason to ban crucifix's - over than the typical over zealous reaction of the politically correct who in the NHS always try to disguise their actions as something else.

By the way - I also see may workers of Hindu faith often wearing those string wristbands - also get very wet and harbour lot's of bacteria - would be intersting to know if this trust also bans them.

I am neither religious or biased - would just like to see common sense or at least fairness prevail.
[info]wer_wind_blows wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 12:46 pm (UTC)
If the crucifix is underneath the clothing and around the neck, I hardly see how it's a problem. And aren't there innumerable surfaces bacteria can survive and grow on besides a necklace?
Quite right too - getting tired of these pathetic Christian self-styled 'martyrs'
[info]merseymike wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 02:17 pm (UTC)
It is absolutely standard practice that necklaces are not worn on a hospital ward. There is no religious requirement for Christians to wear a cross - this is just grandstanding. It has nothing at all to do with what is on the necklace - she was told she could carry a cross in her pocket. She also says she wasn;t displaying it anyway - so she has no case at all.
Re: Quite right too - getting tired of these pathetic Christian self-styled 'martyrs'
[info]secratariat wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 06:26 pm (UTC)
Exactly what I was thinking.

There's no reason she couldn't have carried the cross in her pocket if it meant that much to her, this is just a publicity stunt.
Gross overreaction
[info]sazzer71482 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 03:26 pm (UTC)
I'm very much not religious in any way. If the issue was about it being a crucifix - or indeed any other religious item - then I would be on her side the whole way. That's not the issue though - the issue is about it being a necklace, and there are sensible reasons behind the NHSs complaints about it. As such, in my opinion she is massively over-reacting to this whole situation.

What makes matters worse in my opinion is the fact that if this exact same story had happened but it had been a plain necklace and not a crucifix then it wouldn't have made the news at all. The only reason this is newsworthy in the slightest is because the necklace was a crucifix, even though that had no bearing at all on the decision the NHS made.
Not petty stupidity
[info]dennis1980 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 04:29 pm (UTC)
Although I understand the comparison by "greyno", wedding rings are covered by gloves when examining patients. Also, they aren't really able to be used as "a weapon". Necklaces can be used to strangle. Rings, at best, could be used as weapons from the nurse onto the patient, not the other way around.

I also want to point out, THIS BAN IS ON NECKLACES!!! NOT CRUCIFIXES!!!
Which is why they said she could wear it in her pocket. No one ever asked that she turn on her faith, only that she not wear it on a necklace. I wasn't aware that the crucifix HAS to be worn on a necklace to carrying its importance.
Let's see if we should ban the veil too!
[info]nooraza wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 05:12 pm (UTC)
I suggest veil should be ban in any hospital since it can endanger patients, due to the veil belonging to private individual and is part of the hospital uniform, such as the hospital cap (including for nurses, or during surgery) which should be cleaned accordingly to hospital hygiene requirement! I suspect, Mrs. Slatter was victimized by Islamist patients or colleagues whose hatred towards non-Islamic beliefs, values or symbols has been much proven, such as killing innocent beings in terrorist bombings! Ms. Slatter should sue the hospital!
Re: Let's see if we should ban the veil too!
[info]dennis1980 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 06:05 pm (UTC)
To "nooraza"... they do ban veils when it is a security, safety, or hygienic reason. From the classroom to the voting booth. If all you wanted was a tit for tat reaction, then you can sit down now, because they DO go after veils when needed. Just as they went after necklaces at hospitals... when needed. No conspiracy here, just your own paranoia.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article608537.ece
http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2007/03/23/veil/
http://www.legalday.com/Schools-to-Ban-Veils-200307/18533.html
http://www.legalday.com/currentissues/Dress-Code.html
Re: Let's see if we should ban the veil too!
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 10:13 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't even respond to that one mate, she's a nutcase, one minute we are talking about necklaces and the next its moved onto her Muslim hatred and terrorism lol...
dennis1980, you are the one being PARANOID!
[info]nooraza wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 11:51 pm (UTC)
Hello, I suggest you learn how to be civilized and accept that diverse opinions are allowed in the free West (unles criminal harm is intended)' So stop abusing personally anyone who has diverse opnion to you! "tit for tat" - what's that supposed to mean? Your vile language is a sick joke! Why don't you debate intelligently like a rational modern being instead of attacking people personally who have different opinions to you, like typical Islamist cavemen that have been flooding and threatening commenters with vile personal abuses in the Independent lately!
NHS??- welcome to dreamland...
[info]evalisa1 wrote:
Wednesday, 24 June 2009 at 07:32 am (UTC)
they are making a mountain out of a molehill, aren't they? the thing is there is no substitute to being clean, tidy and hygienic..in other countries..nurses wear any kind of necklace as they want to..yet it's very rare that they have c-difficile or mrsa..so, why this country then, where they are so strict on legislations on infection control, proper handwashing techniques etc, etc...yet, once a person is admitted to the hospital he/she will or often than not, immediately get c-diff infections..where is this infection coming from then...also let me just tell you, that this so called "infection control team" are always looking at nurses faults and weaknessess..they are always trying to wring your neck and making you feel guilty of just a silly simple things such as, forgetting to remove your gloves etc...if they want this strict policy be properly followed and implemented then, put more workforce in the hospital such as nurses and auxilliaries, again they can not recruit more staff because they have no budget for this, yet they keep on punishing and crucifying the staff for all kinds unnecessary aggravations..e.g. wearing necklace etc..
Re: Not petty stupidity
[info]greyno wrote:
Wednesday, 24 June 2009 at 09:23 am (UTC)

Dennis 1980 wrote:

"Although I understand the comparison by "greyno", wedding rings are covered by gloves when examining patients"

Actually you are mistaken - there are hundreds of ocasions when workers touch patients without using golves. Not all contact is a clinical examination. Taking a blood pressure is one such example. Not only do they touch patients they touch commonly used and shared objects such as phones, computer terminals, equipment etc
[info]miss_jordy wrote:
Wednesday, 24 June 2009 at 01:24 pm (UTC)
Mrs Slatter may be sincere, but in this case she's wrong. I'm also a devout Christian who works in the NHS, albeit in a non-clinical capacity, and having received regular training in infection control (which is mandatory for all staff) I know that there is ample evidence supporting the NHS' stance on this.

I've personally heard of cases of staff being attacked by patients who have used something around their necks to try to strangle them with. And it's a fact that jewellery constitutes an unacceptable hygiene risk - while any surface can potentially harbor germs, there are regulations in place to ensure that vital things like uniforms, equipment, and peoples' hands are cleaned regularly. Jewellery is not vital - for Christians at least, it's an optional symbol of one's faith, not an essential requirement of it. So her suggestion that she's being forced to choose between her job and her faith is ridiculous. Taking off her crucifix won't make her any less a Christian, so she should put aside her personal preferences and comply with the Trust policy.

Someone mentioned wedding rings - the head infection control nurse here at my Trust says that ideally they shouldn't be worn either, but are allowed as a concession because they're so important to so many people. I agree that this is a major inconsistency, but I think the answer is to ban wedding rings as well, not to start allowing necklaces.
Same old problems at GRH.
[info]azimuth99 wrote:
Wednesday, 24 June 2009 at 09:30 pm (UTC)
If you take the Trust's replies on Health & Safety grounds, in sequence and logically - it soon becomes apparent that GRH (as usual) is spinning, and has retreated behind their policies (as usual).

People think you cannot challenge H&S tied rulings, but you can with simple, logical argument.

Excuse 1. Infection carrying - threat to patient. Wrong - and a huge distortion of the truth. I've had my blood taken at GRH (great team!), and many of the phlebotomists (male & female) wear glasses, and a lapel watch to measure pulse/heartrate. These hang externally, as opposed to internally like the necklace in question. There are also pens in lapel pockets etc. Microbes love this stuff.
If GRH are this serious about infection, the blood team should be wearing no clothes, be bald and wrapped in cling film. Also, if memory serves, blood is taken with a sterile needle and syringe - not chain and crucifix (no pun intended).

Excuse 2. Strangulation. Hilarious. A violent patient will always go for the hair, arms, clothes (uniform edges) or lash out instinctively. They will not reach down a nurses blouse fumbling for a necklace to strangle them with. Apparently hands make good strangulation tools as well.
If GRH are this serious about violence, perhaps they could start by banning the ID badges that hang around workers necks on blue cords - (a lot of doctors have them)..

It all reminds me of the of MP's claims over expenses i.e. 'it's within the rules'. That may be true, but whole affair exposed a ridiculous system of rules that should have been sorted years ago with common sense.

Forget the religious angle, it's a distraction. Look at the Trust's replies. This is not an 'Health & Safety' or security issue. Looks like microbes, bacteria and nurse stanglers are showing more brain cells than that the average GRH manager or executive.

I think many people locally are just fed up with the Glos Hospitals Trust board. This issue should never have seen the light of day. It only takes 30 seconds to say 'Fine - wear your cross, inside. Now wash your hands'.

Anyway - another life destroyed at GRH. Ho hum!



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