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Pandemic? What flu pandemic?

First we were told swine flu could kill 65,000 Britons. Now the death toll is unlikely to top 1,000

By Jeremy Laurance

Swine flu is worst among the under-fives, whose hospitalisation rate is four times higher than in older age groups.

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Swine flu is worst among the under-fives, whose hospitalisation rate is four times higher than in older age groups.

The 2009 swine flu pandemic may turn out to be the weakest in history. It is spreading more slowly than expected and the latest figures show a flattening, or even a dip, in new infections. It is mild in most people but severe in a few and, while it readily infects children, it appears to spare the elderly. With the vaccine being rolled out, its impact should be further curbed.

So far in the UK, 154 people have died from the virus, around half of whom were under 45. In addition, 1,431 were admitted to hospital with swine flu last week. But in comparison with previous pandemics – or even seasonal flu epidemics – this is a relatively low toll.

In July, shortly after the World Health Organisation declared the first flu pandemic for 40 years, Britain's Chief Medical Officer, Sir Liam Donaldson, published a worst-case scenario suggesting the country should plan for up to 65,000 deaths. That planning assumption has since been revised downwards twice. In September the "worst case" was cut to 19,000 deaths, and in October it was cut again to 1,000 deaths. This compares with an average annual toll of 4,000 to 8,000 deaths from seasonal winter flu.

Previous pandemics have had higher death tolls. In 1918 Spanish H1N1 flu claimed an estimated 230,000 lives in Britain and up to 50 million worldwide. In 1957-58, Asian HN2 flu caused 1.5 to 2 million deaths worldwide and 33,000 in Britain. That was followed by Hong Kong H3N2 flu in 1968-69 which caused one million deaths worldwide of which 30,000 were in Britain. So far, 2009 "novel H1N1" flu has caused 6,394 deaths worldwide, of which 154 have been in the UK.

Doctors say the key difference with seasonal winter flu is that it does not normally kill the young. Swine flu is worst among the under-fives, whose hospitalisation rate is four times higher than in older age groups. Pregnant women are also vulnerable.

Doctors have also been dismayed by the unpredictable ferocity with which it attacks some people. The biggest concern is the number in critical care which has risen sharply in recent weeks. In England, of 848 patients in hospital on 4 November, 172 were in critical care.

Dr Steven Field, chairman of the Royal College of GPs, said: "I thought the original predictions for the number of deaths were incredibly high. Hospitals are coming under pressure but, because the care is so good, fewer people are dying."

Dr Laurence Buckman, chairman of the British Medical Association's GPs committee said: "The original government masterplan was for a maximum of 250,000 dead. But that was based on avian flu. It became clear that swine flu did not pose the same risk. Compared with those earlier assumptions it is looking pretty tame."

The H1N1 swine flu virus that emerged in Mexico last April was the first novel flu virus seen for more than 40 years. But it has since become clear that H1N1 virus is not quite as novel as it appeared. Unlike seasonal flu, swine flu has spread much less among the over 60s, leading scientists to speculate that they have some immunity.

Flu viruses are, however, notoriously unpredictable. The 2009 H1N1 swine flu strain proved its capacity to surprise early on by triggering the first serious flu outbreak in summer in living memory last July, when cases peaked at over 110,000.

But it could yet hold more surpises in store. John McCauley, director of the World Influenza Centre at the National Institute of Medical Research in Mill Hill, north London, said: "Of the three pandemics in the last century it is nothing like 1918 Spanish flu and it may well be milder than 1957 Asian flu or 1968 Hong Kong flu. But it is too early to tell. In the pandemic of 1968-69 we had more illness in 1969."

Professor John Oxford, a flu expert and director of Retroscreen Virology Ltd, said: "So far, this pandemic is the weakest. But the paradox is it could be worse next year. We cannot let up our guard."

Professor Angus Nicoll, head of the influenza programme at the European Centre for Disease Control in Stockholm, said: "It is a potentially manageable pandemic but there will certainly be a number of deaths among younger people that we don't normally see. For that reason I would be resistant to saying it is the weakest pandemic, especially if that were used as a reason not to be immunised."

Flu deaths: the numbers

65,000

Number of deaths in worst-case scenario for Britain published in July

19,000

Revised worst-case scenario outlined in September

1,000

Revised worst-case scenario last month

154

Number of deaths in Britain so far

4-8,000

Average annual death toll in Britain from seasonal winter flu

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A good question, but..
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 02:40 am (UTC)
the correct answer is a surprise. The WHO has just this year changed the definition of pandemic, to NOT include mortality!! Lots of jiggery pokery going on. Read/see what a Spanish doctor of internal medicine, who ia also a public health expert, has researched. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread516417/pg1
Re: A good question, but..
[info]sidsnot wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 08:10 am (UTC)
Interesting video. If you study the accounts of doctors and nurses during the 1918 so called "Spanish Flu" it is clear that the "Flu" and the huge death toll was CAUSED by the vaccine.
Re: A good question, but..
[info]notwaving wrote:
Wednesday, 11 November 2009 at 04:28 pm (UTC)
In 1918 they thought influenza was caused by haemophilus influenzae (hence the name), a bacteria. Therefore, any vaccine created would have been ineffective. Spurious argument.
THEY HAVE SHED-LOADS OF VACCINE TO SHIFT
[info]sidsnot wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 07:55 am (UTC)
You will see in the coming months an advertising campaign to promote vaccination like you've never seen before. The Drug companies have lorry loads of the stuff to shift and there is big money at stake. Their stooges, the politicians, will pop-up on the news and insist that it is necessary to be safe by having the vaccine. In France you can't turn on the television without seeing advertisments at every programme break to push this junk.
[info]globalnomad73 wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 08:59 am (UTC)
Road traffic FATALITIES in the UK in 2008: 2,530; all road traffic casualties in the UK in 2008: 212,733. But do we stop driving? No, we focus on the MANY less affected by swine flu (and private corporate companies heat up swine flu PANIC). My 2p. In peace, Rianne
swine flu pandemic
[info]basil57 wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 09:09 am (UTC)
Well, I don't know a single person who has had 'it'. I think it is part of a government strategy to take the population's attention off the greedy bankers who have caused economic chaos for many people.
[info]john_levett wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 10:44 am (UTC)
So, once again, the 'experts', the politicians and the media have all conspired in another piece of 'end-of-the-world' hysteria.

Do tell us again about how we're all going to die as a result of anthropogenic global warming.
[info]marieco wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 11:29 am (UTC)
Well said sir. SARS the first pandemic that never was, bird flu, the second pandemic that never was and noww we bring you -taraa, yet more of the same. Perhaps they will reintroduce smallpox, just to REALLY give us all something to think about. At this point in time I wouldn't put anything past them. I never used to be this paranoid, I wonder what happened!
Info on Swine Flu
[info]benfriedman123 wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 11:31 am (UTC)
Here is some really good information about what to do if you think that you have swine flu, and also some good flu remedies.
They have shed loads of profit to move!
[info]stevescrutton wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 11:40 am (UTC)
Not only have the drug companies lots of vaccines to shift, as snidsnot say, they also have lots of profits to count. Actually, it is the government and the NHS that have to move the unused vaccine, already bought by the unwitting, and unaware taxpayer.

The real question is how much longer the media, including the Independent, are going to play along with Big Pharmas game - SARs, avian flu, swine flu. The fact that this was a low-level, mild type of flu, that Tamiflu was not much better than useless, with some serious DIEs, has been well known for some time. It has also been known that the vaccines were rushed out, and inadequately tested. Tet this side of the so-called medical crisis has not been discussed in the mainstream media, but on the internet.

And now, again only on the internet, news is beginning to seep through about serious illness and death being linked to the swine flu vaccine, with batches being quarantined, and so on. Will the Independent take a more timely look at these stories? Or will it just be happy to tell us, after the event, what many people have suspected for many months now?

It is time that the Independent, and other national news media, began to engage in a proper health debate, and to begin to question some of the things we are being told about our health by the government, the NHS, the most of all, the big, powerful and influential Pharmaceutical Industry, wants us to hear.
Media-hyped Pandemic
[info]had_it wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 01:43 pm (UTC)
Now the pundits come out to say that someone else is at fault for splashing scare-tactic headlines and fastening on worst-case scenarios, rather than publishing the most-likely middle estimates along with the out-riding best and worst ones. If it weren't that modern British cultures thinks that everything is always someone else's fault, I would say: look to your own house Jeremy Lawrence.


Is it going to be that bad?
[info]benfriedman123 wrote:
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 at 11:08 pm (UTC)
is swine flu really going to be that bad this winter? It has been reported a lot in the news but it has not spread anywhere near as much as predicted. So, will it?
Re: Is it going to be that bad?
[info]notwaving wrote:
Wednesday, 11 November 2009 at 04:31 pm (UTC)
I am married to a GP. They had a sudden death last week - a healthy 35 year old was well enough to walk around and call his GP in the morning, dead in hospital by evening. I know of a baby born at 27 weeks by emergency c-section to a mother who had to be put on a breathing machine so she didn't die. Most people will be fine. Most people will think it's a storm in a teacup. Some people's lives will be changed forever. I hope the cynics manage to come through it unscathed so they can continue to trust no-one in comfort.
Re: Is it going to be that bad?
[info]benfriedman123 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 November 2009 at 04:34 pm (UTC)
Fair point


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