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'Run on UK' sees foreign investors pull $1 trillion out of the City

Banking crisis undermines Britain's reputation as a safe place to hold funds

By Sean O'Grady, Economics correspondent

A silent $1 trillion "Run on Britain" by foreign investors was revealed yesterday in the latest statistical releases from the Bank of England. The external liabilities of banks operating in the UK – that is monies held in the UK on behalf of foreign investors – fell by $1 trillion (£700bn) between the spring and the end of 2008, representing a huge loss of funds and of confidence in the City of London.

Some $597.5bn was lost to the banks in the last quarter of last year alone, after a modest positive inflow in the summer, but a massive $682.5bn haemorrhaged in the second quarter of 2008 – a record. About 15 per cent of the monies held by foreigners in the UK were withdrawn over the period, leaving about $6 trillion. This is by far the largest withdrawal of foreign funds from the UK in recent decades – about 10 times what might flow out during a "normal" quarter.

The revelation will fuel fears that the UK's reputation as a safe place to hold funds is being fatally comp-romised by the acute crisis in the banking system and a general trend to financial protectionism internat- ionally. This week, Lloyds became the latest bank to approach the Government for more assistance. A deal was agreed last night for the Government to insure about £260bn of assets in return for a stake of up to 75 per cent in the bank. The slide in sterling – it has shed a quarter of its value since mid-2007 – has been both cause and effect of the run on London, seemingly becoming a self-fulfilling phenomenon. The danger is that the heavy depreciation of the pound could become a rout if confidence completely evaporates.

Colin Ellis, an economist at Daiwa Securities, commented: "The outflow of overseas banks' UK holdings is not surprising – indeed foreign investors in general will still be smarting from the sharp fall in the exchange rate last year, as many UK liabilities are priced in sterling terms. That raises the question of what could possibly tempt overseas investors to return to the UK. Further heavy outflows of funds are probably a given."

The Bank of England said that there had been a large fall in deposits from the United States, Switzerland, offshore centres such as Jersey and the Cayman Islands, and from Russia.

Paranoia that the UK could follow Iceland into effective national insolvency and jibes about "Reykjavik on Thames" will find an unwelcome substantiation in these statistics – which also show that stricken British banks are having to repatriate similar sums back to Britain. This is scant consolation for the authorities, however, as it means the UK and sterling are, like some emerging markets and currencies, suffering from a flight of capital. By contrast some financial centres and currencies – notably the US dollar and the Swiss franc – are enjoying a boost as "safe havens" in a troubled world.

The sudden international trend towards financial deglobalisation and the flight of money to "home" bases has nonetheless been dramatic. The Prime Minister has already warned about this drift to "financial protectionism" – even though UK banks brought back almost $600bn in the last months of 2008, as they attempted to repair fragile balance sheets. Mr Ellis added: "These data are consistent with UK banks reducing their overseas holdings, at the same time as overseas banks scale back their presence in the UK. That is not surprising, given that governments around the world are having to prop up their banking sectors, and in turn demanding that national institutions focus on domestic markets. But it does run the risk of being financial protectionism by the back door."

Investment from the West into developing countries has fallen from the level of about $1 trillion a year seen earlier this decade to about $150bn last year. Economies in eastern Europe such as Hungary and the Baltic republics, some in Asia such as Pakistan and developed nations such as Iceland have been severely hit by the collapse in foreign investment.

Like Iceland, the UK has an unusually large banking sector in relation to her national income, with liabilities four times GDP. Should the UK taxpayer have to assume these debts it will represent, in relation to GDP, about double the national debt the nation bore at the end of the Second World War, a near unsustainable burden.

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[info]strateshooter wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 07:03 am (UTC)
scary
Too many eggs
[info]49niner wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 07:14 am (UTC)
So much for the City of London and banking making our living in the future. It was never going to happen and now we're paying the price. We've put too many eggs in the banking basket.

For a nation which was once the "Workshop of the World" it is humiliating. We are now rueing the day we let our once-proud industries fold without a fight.
Re: Too many eggs
[info]vhawk1951 wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 05:25 pm (UTC)
it seems the workshop of the world ran out of customers and could not compete i bet we will need all those lost skills one dayjust like we will need the coal in the mines that maggie flooded drowning bilions of quids worth of equipment. banks don't make anything useful
Re: Too many eggs
[info]steve_wilds wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 07:11 pm (UTC)
There was a fight.
Re: Too many eggs
[info]twende_hombre wrote:
Tuesday, 10 March 2009 at 05:35 am (UTC)
What did the damage was interest rates in the region of 17% in the 1980's while Thatcher fought inflation. Manufacturing businesses closed down around the country. The economic theory was that re-investment would occur in "new" business sectors, e.g. banking. The mistake was not to protect these manufacturing businesses with an USA type Chapter 11. It is cheaper to sustain a business through a downturn than it is to re-invest in a business later. But this fact was not in Thatcher's economics text book.
Revolution 09
[info]d_subversiv wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 08:51 am (UTC)
Hmm interesting.

Dont get depressed though, the revolution is very nearly here, isnt it?

But what will be London's version of the guillotine? Now that I dont know.

I bet one thing though, Labour will be out of government by the end of this summer.

PS why not study some of Goebbels speeches, relevant now??
The City of London
[info]abbalong wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 09:31 am (UTC)
The current generation of 'City Traders' has destroyed the reputation for acuity and probity established by the previous ten generations. The victory of greed over judgement.
abbalong
Re: The City of London
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Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 04:21 pm (UTC)


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[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 07:37 pm (UTC)
are just workers. I for example "trade".
It's not unlike being a (competent) professional gambler.
The filth lives in higher branches of the tree
UK government debt vs UK government profiteering
[info]steelyglint2 wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 09:40 am (UTC)
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Re: UK government debt vs UK government profiteering
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Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 01:39 pm (UTC)
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Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 02:19 pm (UTC)
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no surprise...
[info]zansal wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 10:32 am (UTC)
This is the logical outcome of the government and BoE incompetent attempts to manage this crisis. I've believed all along and said all along that everything - EVERYTHING - QE included - the Lloyds buyout etc. will simply make this bad situation much worse.

Meanwhile, and remember we are 6 months into this "crunch", the Government are actively blocking attempts to help businesses cut costs and get access to credit.

Quite simply if you made a list of all the interventionist options a government has at it's disposal to influence economic conditions in a negative way then Labour have chosen them all.

Britain was broken down a few years ago - now Labour are carting it off to the scrapyard.
Re: no surprise...
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 10:30 pm (UTC)
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[info]chome4 wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 11:48 am (UTC)
All those fees imposed on funds from all that foreign money even before it was traded/invested - Gone!

That translated into salaries and bonuses.

I guess we'll now have to concentrate on getting jobs in which we actually 'do' stuff instead of sitting in front of PCs chatting about last night's telly!
On the wreck of the 'Tinatic'
[info]tomhmacf wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 11:54 am (UTC)
I wonder of 'the greatest' Prime Minister since Churchill is sufficiently 'compos mentis' to be aware that all she stood for has collapsed in ruins?
Re: On the wreck of the 'Tinatic'
[info]d_subversiv wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 02:23 pm (UTC)
No, have some pity on the poor lady.

She will go down in history as being one of the reasons to revolt, takes time though, about 25 years I think...

Her son though is a different case..
Re: On the wreck of the 'Tinatic'
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 10:42 pm (UTC)
compos mentis or not I still look forward to p.ssing on her grave
d_subversiv
[info]oldnickheavenly wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 03:56 pm (UTC)

I think that the plan is to drown them in green custard!

I hope that the revolution is nearly here, in fact it is difficult to see how it can be avoided!

When a man cannot feed his wife and kids he has nothing to lose!

They seem determined to push the population, especially the Brits and Yanks to the limit!

Prost!

Old Nick
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Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 04:28 pm (UTC)


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"large fall in deposits from the United States, Switzerland, offshore centres such as Jersey and..."
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 07:40 pm (UTC)
Reflecting the fact that one of the banana republic's main 'industries" thanks to thirty years of Blatcherist government was (and still is) money laundering
Put us back on the Gold Standard
[info]robert_1966 wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 10:07 pm (UTC)
The Austrians picked this happening (economists that is). That is the fiat money system combined with fractional banking has led to mal-investment and now the inevitable correction. Obama's, the Scottish Git and in Australia, Labor's solution of shoving more socialism down our throats will only make this crisis longer and worse. Although the bankers hold some responsibility it is disingenuous to blame them solely for this predicament especially from politicians whom in this writers opinion hold most of the blame for foisting on us a fiat currency system that has not once in the history of civilization ever ended in anything but fiscal disaster. One blogger opined on the UK equivalent of the guillitine - anyone whom has seen the 100 targets lined up at Bisley shooting range knows the answer for those that have foisted constitutionally dubious edicts on our lives....

Re: Silver Standard
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 10:42 pm (UTC)
JEWISH BANKERS
JEWISH LAWYURZ
JEWISH POLLYTITIANS
Re: Put us back on the Gold Standard
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 10:50 pm (UTC)
As an ex consistent 4 inch grouper with a 303 at Bisley I prefer suspending by the thumbs each weekend in a zoo, visible to but protected from the pubic - much more effective as a deterrent to would be emulators.
Imported Crime
[info]texmln wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 02:49 am (UTC)
Look at the kind of people you've been letting into your country... what did you expect?
Re: Imported Crime
[info]brentdax wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 10:22 am (UTC)
Yes, because City banks looking for new executives, hedge fund managers, and financial mathematicians snap up those Polish immigrants in a trice.

Someone here already has an answer; he's just looking for the question to go with it.
Just the beginning
[info]northwest0161 wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 03:51 am (UTC)
I fear this is just the beginning. We also have a large number of people (does anyone know how many?) who work full-time but who can't survive without working tax credit, housing benefit etc. because their wages are so low.

In effect it's a state subsidy to low-paying employers, landlords and utility companies because they're the ones who benefit in the end.

The entire economy has been run on a kind of smoke and mirrors basis for the last decade and now it's all coming crashing down.
Re: Just the beginning
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 06:44 am (UTC)
Agreed with one small correction, the duration of government by organised economic crime syndicates through subversive stooges, is three decades
The Good Book
[info]nos235 wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 05:09 am (UTC)
Cast out the money lenders
The enemy within
[info]tovasco wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 08:00 am (UTC)
Is labour still working for Russia? Or am I mistaking total incompetence for a master plan?
Re: The enemy within
[info]d_subversiv wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 09:18 am (UTC)
>> Is labour still working for Russia?

No, they are working to create a Marxist state. Russia never was one, was it?
"Run on Britain"
[info]concretedave wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 10:55 am (UTC)
Who took out the money? Follow the trail. Then the UK will know who is trying to bankrupt the country.
I tell you right now. If this 'run' had anything to with a Muslim, it would be all over the news like a rash.
banking crisis and structural imbalances
[info]angusscott wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 03:07 pm (UTC)
In these troubled times, it is easy to become too domestically focused. Every country in the world is suffering economic stress of differing degrees. The 'safe haven' countries and currencies, namely the yen, and swiss franc, are already seeing their economic strength fatally undermined by excessive currency appreciation which makes them uncompetitive. Today's safe haven is tomorrow's troubled water-investors need to keep ahead of these currency tidal surges. At the end of the day, a country's viability is based on more than the transitory quality of its banking assets and market gyrations. But crises often forge stronger foundations. My own forecast? The days of independence of the Great British Pound are numbered and the phobia about Euro membership will recede in comparison to the trauma British businesses and the economy in general currently face............
Bad money
[info]johnnywi wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 03:54 am (UTC)
What the Hell can you do with your money? The banks are failing all over the world. Who can you trust? Where will it end.
Reykjavik on Thames
[info]exprogger wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 09:20 am (UTC)
Kudos to the Austrians for mentioning the urgent need for a commodity-based currency (gold has undoubtedly been best for this to date). Despite the British MSM's best efforts, this debate is going to have to be conducted in the public arena in the foreseeable future.

But it's also worth mentioning Gordon Brown's (ab)use of anti-terrorist legislation to freeze Icelandic banking assets in the UK last year.

At a stroke, Gordon Brown destroyed the reputation of British banks as a safe place for foreigners to invest large amounts of money. Small wonder that foreign investors are taking their funds elsewhere.
Wealth game ?
[info]humble_sparrow wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 04:54 pm (UTC)
Does it really matter, people like myself have never engaged in this wealth game or ever will, how does all that money make people happier or make the planet a better place to live, beats me ?

Not at all envious of all that money, let them have.

Shall go and plant some more potatoes and carrots and wait for the spring equinox. :-)
Pointless
[info]sherad wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 08:42 pm (UTC)
We need house prices to get back to tripling in value every 10 years, and people in their late 30s, and then in their 40s and 50s, to keep buying new stock and pricing the young out and keep them renting.. or forcing them to take on multi-million pound mortgages for a semi.

That way we'll be alright surely.
England joining America in terrible times.
[info]cjwillowjc wrote:
Monday, 16 March 2009 at 04:35 pm (UTC)
The people that we trusted with running our country have miserably failed.

Greed, selfishness, and ungodliness, is the prime reason the WORLD is in the monetary condition is in.

God has allowed us to sink ourselves. He is about to bring everything to a close. It is well time for those who call themselves Christians to make SURE they are right with God.

Revelation 8:8 Is a prophecy that reveals that a giant Asteroid is soon to strike near the middle of the Atlantic ocean. The destruction and carnage will be worse the Earth has suffered except for the Flood of Noah event. Every structure on the shores surrounding the Atlantic will be totally destroyed by the Giant Tsunami's that will be generated by the Asteroid impact. New York City will be wiped off the map!

Get ready, get ready, get ready!!!!!!

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Saturday, 16 May 2009 at 01:57 pm (UTC)
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Foreign investors pull $1 trillion out of the City
[info]justtkate wrote:
Sunday, 17 May 2009 at 12:03 am (UTC)
The amount of funds withdrawn from the UK is absolutely huge. It is the last thing Britain needs right now. For decades, even hundreds of years British pound was considered to be a safe currency and Britain as a safe place to invest money. Government can?t afford to lose foreign funds; they can?t sit and hope that they will return. If we don?t do anything they won?t, we have to create conditions, which will ?tempt overseas investors to return to the UK? and keep those which didn?t go as yet. In the view of current developments it is not surprising that we are experiencing a ?a large fall in deposits from the United States, Switzerland, offshore centers such as Jersey and the Cayman Islands, and from Russia.? There will be more to come when 50% Income Tax will come into force, all these City bankers don?t exactly fall into basic tax band. Kate from buy to let remortgage.
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[info]bedsonlegs wrote:
Tuesday, 15 September 2009 at 09:09 am (UTC)
l sell office furniture from my offices in the heart of London, and business is bleek, the city is saying there's no money and it's so true, if this situation does not pick up soon, London will be full of pound shops like most of the UK towns and cities CRAP AND GOING DOWN HILL FAST.
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