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Public urged to report Google Street view fears

By Press Association

People worried their privacy has been breached by Google's controversial new mapping service have been told to complain to the search engine or the information watchdog.

Scores of pictures, including one of a man exiting a Soho sex shop and another of a man being sick on the pavement outside a pub, were removed from Street View yesterday a day after it was launched in the UK

The application allows users to access 360-degree views of roads and homes in 25 cities and includes photographs of millions of residential addresses, people and cars.

Sophisticated technology has been developed to automatically obscure the faces of people featured in Street View photographs, and car registration plates have been blurred, but such efforts have failed to quieten critics, with many labelling the maps voyeuristic and intrusive.

A spokesman for the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) said: "It is Google's responsibility to ensure all vehicle registration marks and faces are satisfactorily blurred.

"Individuals who feel that an image does identify them (and are unhappy with this) should contact Google direct to get the image removed.

"Individuals who have raised concerns with Google about their image being included - and who do not think they have received a satisfactory response - can complain to the ICO."

A spokeswoman for Google could not confirm the exact number of images removed but said it had been "less than expected".

She added: "We take privacy very seriously which is why when we announced Street View for the UK we explained our easy-to-use removals process for images people found inappropriate - simply click 'report a concern' and report the image.

"Since launching, we have received very few removals requests.

"However, we're very pleased, where removals or further blurring has been requested, that the technology has been working so effectively and that most images have been removed within hours.

"Of course, we think that the vast majority of people around the UK will find Street View an incredibly useful new tool - whether it's to explore their own city in more detail, take a virtual field trip or simply learn a bit more about the history of our many great British cities."

At the bottom of each photograph featured on the application is a link which users can follow to "report a concern" to Google.

Individuals who do not wish to be featured in images or want their home to be taken off the database can register their objections by filling in an online form.

Ed Parsons, Google's geospatial technologist, said the ICO was consulted about privacy concerns, as was Scotland Yard.

He said: "Privacy is really important to us. We recognise that there have been concerns about that and we think we have addressed those concerns."

Street View images are taken from public roads, captured by a number of cars which have been driving around the UK since last summer.

The cars are continuing to photograph streets, which will enable Google to extend the service to cover more cities, Mr Parsons said.

Roads where Street View is currently available are highlighted on the standard Google map by a blue outline.

Panoramic images can be accessed by dragging an orange "pegman" icon - found on the left-hand side of the screen - across the page.

The technology, first launched in the US in 2007, is also available in the Netherlands, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, France, Spain and Italy.

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Unacceptable
[info]a1aco wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 09:38 am (UTC)
The new Google Earth version 5, the version that introduces 'Streetview' installs from an online installer such as Google Earth hasn't used before, they have priorly used a downloaded installer. The installer contacts Google frequently thereafter even when Google Earth is not in use and is as such a security concern, it does not appear to be uninstallable singly meaning that all of Google Earth V5 needs to go in order to be rid of it.

I don't want to install the bloody thing in order to find out whether my privacy has been breached, while generally what of the breached privacy of those who don't even as much as use computers.

Sorry Google and Info Commissioner, informing Google who will remove an image, which incidentally may well remain viewable from a slightly different angle, is not good enough.
Re: Unacceptable
[info]xxb37hxx wrote:
Friday, 27 March 2009 at 07:14 pm (UTC)
yes i think that too as i feel unconfortable with people google maps can see my house i think it stupid and it wouldnt of hurt them to ask before hand
Online form
[info]duke3 wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 10:39 am (UTC)
Why should I have to fill out an online form to have an image removed? Why doesn't google have to ask my permission in writting before putting images of my home and address up. Absolutely disgraceful, cannot believe Government is allowing this to happen.
Thanks for your help
[info]tedjo wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 11:05 am (UTC)
Welcom to the club, now with the help of google you will now be able to direct projectiles at a choosen target, just choose the co-ordinates?
Get it finished
[info]martindean wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 11:43 am (UTC)
Street view is amazing - the petty complaints are pathetic - please get a life.

I have just tracked a journey on google maps - now have the map and the street view and the written info - perfect for learning a new route. No doubt there are random people on the route - I will not notice them - just like when driving.

Google will not be redoing this every week so it is not cctv - if on a random basis there is something you do not like they will sort it

My complaint
1) There are some small streets they have not been down so they cannot be seen
2) Views of squares are rubbish - they need a hand or bike camera to get where their camera cannot reach
3) There are vast swathes of the country they have not finished - get it sorted Google
Caught on CCTV on the average of 300 Times a day... And you want Privacy ???
[info]4n0n777 wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 11:46 am (UTC)
How can anyone complain you are caught on CCTV on the average of 300 Times a day in the UK... The only difference here is that the pictures (if someone just happened to chose that particular place you were at) are there.

If that is the case then the Privacy breach should extend to CCTV as well. Yes you can ask for a "copy" of any pictures of you on CCTV but that does not mean that the Pictures are removed from the system

think about it people 300 times a day .. you might get caught on CCTV (not all Cameras are visable) doing all sorts of stuff including picking your nose or scratching your bum.

Do you know what you are doing at all times while walking past cctv cameras, in shops, on the street, in resturants, parking lots and even some pubs and public bathrooms (although not the stalls, at least we should hope not)

Welcome to the BIG BROTHER society...

They even have CCTV where the CCTV operators can speak to you now ...

Even some governments have Satalites that can spy right into your own back yard ... or see you walking down the street so whats the difference?

Another way to think about this is ... How many celebs are caught vomiting or falling down or coming out of "sex shops" and many other things and are caught by the Press as well as CCTV ???

This is a subject that a lot of people can go on and on about. But put it into some sort of perspective, or another perspective so to speak.

I have to say that the street view is really interesting with or with out "people" in the photos...

Welcome this technology!
[info]tomgollins wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 11:48 am (UTC)
Street View is absolutely fantastic, a major leap forward in mapping and navigation technology. It is not illegal to take photographs outside, and I would I hope it never is! Technology like this should be celebrated, not shunned by the PC-might-offend-someone-somewhere-brigade.
google street search
[info]12alan wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 11:58 am (UTC)
Am I getting the same things everyone else gets.? I have homed in on several of my friends houses and I am damned if I can see in their windows. It seems likely to me that complainants are the sort that condemn a book/film etc. without actually seeing/reading it. As others point out camera surveillance by Ctv thingamyjigs are far more intrusive. From what I am receiving this is just fun
Privacy
[info]hennywen wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 12:59 pm (UTC)
I should imagine a vast number of people will find this a useful tool. Here are to name but a few - burglers, stalkers, terrorists, rapists should I go on???
panopticon
[info]hjaffe wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 06:56 pm (UTC)
It is always salutary to visit sex shops whether or not you are being googled. As far as complaints about surveillance--they no longer apply. Wilderness, exile, suspension, simple aloneness without stimuli--they are long gone. The spectacle has metastasized; alienation is no longer possible. That is the reason Guy Debord and his Situationist colleagues murdered themselves.
google street view
[info]johnba001 wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 09:48 pm (UTC)
This is an abolute disgrace. It is possible to see if your car is in the drive. How ever is this allowed to happen is this a government project to increase crime?

I will no longer support google in my business and it will take off our system and replaced but a more sensible company.
[info]j_rennison wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 11:31 pm (UTC)
What is the matter with some of the people on here? How is google street view going to help a rapist? And i very much doubt a person would see a house on streetview and think 'that looks like a nice house to break into, i'll do that this evening'. If someone is going to break in, they would do it regardless of google's new addition. And so what if your face was captured on one of the billions of pictures seen on streetview? What is going to happen as a result? Pathetic moaning if you ask me. It is a remarkable tool and a very interesting way of seeing somewhere you wouldn't otherwise be able to see, and also very helpful too. If someone wants to see your house so desperately, they will go to it if it wasn't on google. Are you going to stop them walking past and having a peak? No. PC gone nuts...
[info]j_rennison wrote:
Saturday, 21 March 2009 at 11:46 pm (UTC)
And johnba001, exactly what could happen to you now that we know your car was at home on the drive around 6 months ago? And don't even get me started on 'hennywen' who claimed this google tool was a stalker's new best friend. In answer to your question, no, don't go on. Because you're talking b****cks.
google street view UK
[info]cy3 wrote:
Sunday, 22 March 2009 at 01:21 pm (UTC)
Google have invaded the privacy of many home owners, and it is not that easy to register a complaint, by the time you have attempted to register a complaint and then written your comment, they then say there is a limit to the number of words and in total the exercise is more trouble than it is worth. I believe it is supposed to put people off complaining, and how clever!

In our area of London, it is a very quiet road, and we have had burglaries over the past year, and the latest one involved a very elderly lady who is now in Hospital and the police are involved. Google's reason for this new site supposedly, is that tourist will be interested, what rubbish they simply wish to see the sights of London. Estate Agents already take their own pictures of homes (with permission of the owners), this is just another ploy to watch and survey the population.

If Mr. and Mrs Blair and the boss of Google in the UK have removed their images, what about the rest of us.

Instead of burglars walking up and down their chosen area of 'pickings' all they have to do now is go to Streetview. Surely, this cannot be viewed as an innocent stragegy, and I am furious that permission was never sought, probably because Google realised it may not be given and did not want to get involved in complicated correspondence.

It would be interesting to see whether anyone will have the impetus to pursue Google, for example our MPs, the Civil Rights group or whether the Data Protection Act can be invoked.

I cannot believe this has been allowed to slip so easily 'under the wire' with no protests, but then again we are becoming a police state with all the cameras I suppose it was thought one more thing and the good old UK population would not complain too much.
Has anyone considered this to be a very nice terrorist tool?
[info]questioningmind wrote:
Monday, 23 March 2009 at 11:02 am (UTC)
So we here stories about train spotters being told they cannot take pictures on stations becuase of it being a potential security risk and yet no one questions Google?

I would be interested if you can actually see any CCTV or security cameras in any of the Google Street view images? How's about security alarms? Can you see or more importantly see if a street does not have them?

I really do not have a problem with tools that make life easier for the majority- I love satellite navigation for example- but isn't this taking things a bit too far? With the high street shops closing and changing hands so quickly the information on Google Strrets will be out of date so quickly how will it be useful?
Re: Has anyone considered this to be a very nice terrorist tool?
[info]questioningmind wrote:
Monday, 23 March 2009 at 11:17 am (UTC)
Taking this a bit further-

Maybe the government like or promote this sort of thing- I would imagine the argument goes something like:

We cannot understand why people feel that ID cards/DNA databases/CCTV/ etc are an infrigement of civil liberties when you already have Tesco club cards/Google Street View etc etc.

As for the "if you have nothing to hide then why are you complaining" statement. Who decides what "wrong" is, and what happens when your definition starts to disagree with the government?

How do I complain?
[info]vivkins wrote:
Monday, 23 March 2009 at 12:12 pm (UTC)
My address is wrongly listed as being in an area which has higher insurance premiums and cheaper properties. Google's error is devaluaing my property and if I came to sell, people would understandably look up the property on Streetview and could be put off purchasing. I have tried to point this out to Google but get sent round in circles. Could someone please advise me what to do?
Google Street View - Unacceptable Corporate Arrogance
[info]klivw wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 09:26 am (UTC)
A few weeks ago I submitted an objection to Google about the Street View photos of my house; I have not even had as much as an acknowledgement, never mind a reply, and the photo of my house in Google Street View is still online.

I don't object to Street View because of faces or car number plates, for me the potential embarrasment of being 'caught out' is something that a small minority of people worry about, and serves only to be a distracting side show.

To me, the key issues are twofold: what possible positive function does this serve?; and, the sheer bad manners and corporate arrogance of Google in assuming that people would not object, and their lack of responsiveness to people who do object.

I read online the CEO's justification for Street View - presumably he is an intelligent man, so I don't know what could have possibly motivated him to try to justify it by saying that Street View would save people getting into the cars therefore it has eco benefits (paraphrased) - what? Who gets into their cars to drive round streets? Who now sits at their computer instead of getting into their car? What evidence is there to support this ridiculous statement?

On the other hand, it is inuitively easy to see how the street views of cities and targets must be so very useful for terrorists planning attacks - it is a God's gift (or Google's gift) to planning and briefing a coordinated attack. Surely anyone can see this, whether they work for Google, Special Branch, or Al Quaeda? Granted, this objection is less valid for residential areas, but who would want to see a picture of my house, who I don't know? And why would I want to see a picture of other complete stranger's roads and houses?

The Government body concerned with this issue has let the British public down - it will become clear how much the first time a terrorist thanks Google for allowing them to plan their attack with such vivid and useful visual aids, that appear to serve no other purpose. It's now up to all of us to write to our MPs to get the arguments against clear, and well heard and understood.


ps
I must make it clear that right up to the introduction of Street View I was a big fan of Google - I have had its search engine page as my home page for years, used them as my prime email account, and have an AdWords account. I am in the process of closing my AdWords account and will be doing the same with my email account. I urge everyone else who seriously objects to Street View to do the same.


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