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BBC under pressure after another Ross sex joke

By Tom Morgan, PA

The BBC was under pressure to take fresh action against Jonathan Ross today after the family of an 86-year-old Alzheimer's sufferer condemned his "unforgivable" sex joke.

The presenter sparked the new controversy on his return from a 12-week suspension for broadcasting lewd messages with comedian Russell Brand on BBC's Radio 2.

After colleague Andy Davies mentioned on air that an elderly woman kept kissing and cuddling him while he was carrying out jobs at his Spanish home, Ross joked: "I think you should just, for charity, give her one last night. One last night before the grave. Would it kill you?"

The comments provoked anger from the son of Francisca Guzman, who said the joke was aimed at his frail mother, who has suffered dementia for three years.

Calling for Ross to be sacked, Jose Maria Moreno, 44, told The Sun: "What he said is unforgivable and offensive. I don't understand how he can continue working for an organisation like the BBC.

"My mother is very old and has Alzheimer's, which has led to serious mental health problems. This is not a suitable topic for comedy."

Ms Guzman was not named during the broadcast but lives near Mr Davies in the village of Conchar, near Granada.

The BBC, which had recorded 25 complaints by this morning, previously said there was "clearly no intention to offend anyone".

The corporation insisted there was no link to any specific individual and that the joke was part of a light-hearted exchange.

A BBC spokesman said: "Andy Davies has made it clear to us that he was not talking about any one individual, but was using poetic licence to tell a story.

"Nothing broadcast by the BBC would allow the public to link the story to one individual because there wasn't one."

Mr Davies himself issued a statement denying that the joke in the show referred to a real individual.

"The story was poetic licence based on the warm and affectionate behaviour experienced in Spanish village life. I did not identify an individual because there isn't one," he said.

In a statement issued to the News of the World, Ross said: "It was a spontaneous, light-hearted remark made in response to an anecdote set in Spain, where no-one was named or ever likely to hear the broadcast.

"As far as I was concerned, the story may even have been apocryphal or exaggerated for comedic purposes, as is common practice on radio and comedy shows around the country.

"Absolutely no offence to any individual was intended and, if the media wasn't hell bent on stirring up controversy, I'm sure none would be taken."

But Conservative MP David Davies called for Ross to be replaced while former Home Secretary David Blunkett called for Ross to donate some of his pay to charity.

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[info]fox1234 wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 11:52 am (UTC)
For the love O God, this is getting stupid. That's not even that offensive, he wasn't specifically critisising Alzheimer's patients, he just made an old person sex joke. If you don't like it don't watch it. LONG LIVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!
[info]fuzz_box wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 12:49 pm (UTC)
For the love of catnip! Leave the man alone! This is obviously a media generated story, no one gives a fig but the News of the World, Mail on Sunday and now The Independant (busy dumbing down to compete with the Sun? Why?) You guys are so jealous of Mr Ross' pay packet, aren't you? Well, get a life!
Puritanism has no place in a free and democratic world....
[info]media_myths wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 01:09 pm (UTC)
They shouldn't have to explain themselves. If this is what's going to happen every time someone cracks a joke then we are headed for some very dull times. Which may have it's benefits - they've taken away our right to protest, they've taken away our right to anonymity, they've dumbed down television to such an extent that even an ameoba would get bored with its superficiality, they've even taken away our right to earn a decent living and the British public have sat there and taken all of it. But now that the po-faced chattering classes are trying to take away our right to laugh I think the backlash will begin.....
Jonathan Ross
[info]59dsm wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 01:39 pm (UTC)
Ross's enemies (The Daily Mail, Mediawatch and any second-rate politician looking for a headline) will not rest until he's been hounded out. We seem to be entering a new age of puritanism where any 'controversial' or 'edgy' form of humour is denounced in the tabloid press as sick, obscene and unfit for broadcast. If the likes of Mediawatch had their way, all we'd have to watch or listen to would be the likes of Last of the Summer Wine, The Antiques Roadshow and The Archers.....sorry Mediawatch complained about the sexual content of The Archers last year so even that would be out.
[info]scultore100 wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 01:52 pm (UTC)
Does anyone actually find Blathermouth Ross funny? Far from being 'edgy' and 'contemporary', it seems to me to be school-playground 1960s vintage.
I like freedom of speech
[info]imogenlucy wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 03:18 pm (UTC)
Some people apparently prefer censorship.
leave Jonathan alone ....
[info]scotsmaman wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 04:11 pm (UTC)
No doubt the Mail rag et al had difficulty in finding fault with Jonathan's Friday night show, so they sat through his Saturday morning show with the sole intent of finding fault. This is nothing more than a witch hunt and I am both surprised and disappointed that the Independent has had to join in. What must it have cost for the gutter press to "find" a unwitting Senor to collaborate their rubbish. Perhaps these 'rags' should look for some proper news to report, there is certainly plenty about.

PS ... I'm 60 years young ...female, enjoy the Antiques Road Show, the Archers AND Jonathan Ross .....
Get rid of Ross?
[info]soho44 wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 04:36 pm (UTC)
It doesn't matter if there's no real old woman in question. Once again, it's open season for all those complainers out there to go after Ross. And, since the economy is horrible, the media is only happy to hype this as long as possible for ratings/profit.

How much do you wanna bet Ross and his 'management team" are sitting back, laughing and thinking, you know, other presenters would kill for this kind of publicity.
[info]saoir wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 07:20 pm (UTC)
I ditto fox1234 below

"For the love O God, this is getting stupid. That's not even that offensive, he wasn't specifically critisising Alzheimer's patients, he just made an old person sex joke. If you don't like it don't watch it. LONG LIVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!"

He didn't phone the lady up and insult her or leave a message on her personal message machine. There is a big difference between a joke and an action. If we fired everyone who makes an offensive comment or joke then the world would not be worth living in.

I sympathise with Mr Moreno - but he and the Media regulators have to understand that offensiveness, as such, is part of the to and fro of life.

Saoir
Ross again
[info]tag7 wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 09:06 pm (UTC)
He has the manner and humour of an unruly schoolboy and can not be trusted to use good judgement. He is a parolee who has gone straight back and re-offended, it is unforgivable that this man is allowed on BBC, it undermines my respect for them that they do.

And yes I can choose not to watch, so I dont !, hes only worth about a million viewers for all the money he costs so kick him out and use the money saved on something good.

"Don't have a husband, and he don't play the trombone..."
[info]jazzwhistle wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 09:39 pm (UTC)
"I did not identify an individual because there isn't one..." - Mr Davies
"no-one was named or ever likely to hear the broadcast." - Mr Ross

So between the 2 of them they are actually saying:

"There is no such individual, we didn't name her, and she isn't likely to hear the broadcast".

That said, even live radio is never broadcast without a slight delay, so surely Ross bears no responsibility for this (or his previous) sick jokes being aired?
BBC is truly a bastion of "ethics"
[info]factslive wrote:
Monday, 26 January 2009 at 10:57 pm (UTC)
It was bound to happen. Ross is uncontrollable and get's tax payer's money to crack insensitive jokes. On the other hand BBC would not show a humanitarian appeal for Gaza children.
Ethics are truely out of the window for BBC and it is time for us tax payers to ask the government why we have to pay the license fee to fund all the loonies out there.
[info]c1084 wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 02:48 pm (UTC)
Why does the media find it necessary to go on a witch hunt? Yes Jonathan Ross's phone call was deserving of a telling off and a suspension and i'm sure he has paid for that, but let him at least get a couple of months back into it until you start picking everything he says to bits.

Go and find someone else to drag up stories about, i'm sure there are plenty of politicians and people that have real say on how the country works that need looking at. He is an entertainer and if you dont like that type of entertainment SWITCH IT OFF. The BBC arent there to please everybody at every second of the day, i find his humour very funny and happily hand over my license fee for it.

Its a shame a fine paper like the Independent has decided to join the Daily Hate Mail in this witch hunt.
Ross row
[info]twinkleturner wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 09:22 pm (UTC)
They're all jumping on the media bandwagon now because they want to feel important. Mr. Ross did make an enormous booboo last time but this is just ridiculous, they'll have us analysing every spoken word soon just to see if there are any possible connections to anything remotely possible to moan about. SHUTUP THE LOT OF YOU!!!!
Jonathan Ross
[info]andycurtis wrote:
Wednesday, 28 January 2009 at 06:13 am (UTC)
As a former broadcaster living in Hong Kong, it appears to be getting worse and worse to be "on the air" in the UK. Whilst I could never condone obvious derogatory comments aimed at the less fortunate, it seems that it is now almost impossible to be funny or even slightly amusing without offending anyone.
My suggestion to Jonathan Ross is to resign the radio job - not in disgrace at unintentionally offending someone, but in disgust at how narrow-minded everyone in the UK is becoming, and how Mary Whitehouse's misguided legacy stills lives on.

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