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D-Day veterans turned down for bank account

Lloyds apologises after saying appeal fund would 'provide no benefit'

By John Lichfield and Cahal Milmo

British veterans at D-Day commemorations in Normandy last year

DAVID SANIDSON

British veterans at D-Day commemorations in Normandy last year

A bank that was rescued with £17bn in state handouts refused to open a "return to Normandy" account for D-Day veterans, on the grounds that it would be a profitless nuisance.

The Normandy Veterans Association asked Lloyds to set up an account for the "Overlord List" – an appeal in The Independent that raised £20,000 to take 500 ex-servicemen back to France on 6 June for the 65th anniversary of the Normandy landings.

The request, to a Bristol branch of Lloyds, was received enthusiastically. However, the NVA's secretary Peter Hodge was later told the bank's London headquarters would not approve what it deemed a "temporary" facility because the cash would be withdrawn before the summer and would therefore "provide no benefit" to Lloyds.

The advertising executive Trevor Beattie, who has personally pledged to sponsor 30 veterans from the West Midlands after hearing of our appeal, accused Lloyds of showing "rank insensitivity". "We hear a lot from bankers about risk," he said. "We, as taxpayers and citizens, are suffering from the absurd risks banks took. And now this bank refuses to provide a simple, risk-free service for people who risked everything on our behalf. It beggars belief."

In a letter to the Bristol branch manager, copied to the Lloyds chairman Sir Victor Blank, Mr Beattie said: "Your blighted profession has just slipped another rung. As if banking had not soured its already crass reputation enough. Not happy with helping bring our economy to the brink of a financial abyss, it now seems that lending a hand to a group of proud octogenarians to whom we all (yes, even bankers) owe everything is beyond you. You are not fit to lace the boots of those we will be honouring in June. Sleep well."

Mr Hodge said the NVA asked Lloyds for a special account because it was anxious to make sure the cash and cheques were handled safely. He said he found the bank's reluctance impossible to comprehend, adding: "Their main point was that such an account would be difficult to organise and provide no benefit to Lloyds."

Last night, a spokeswoman for Lloyds TSB said: "We are extremely sorry for the upset and offence we caused Captain Peter Hodge. Better judgement and more flexibility should have been exercised by us."

She added that "in order to express our deep regret", the bank would pay £700 to sponsor two veterans to make the return trip to Normandy. However, the apology came too late for the NVA. Mr Hodge, 67, has instead set up an account with HSBC, which said it was "honoured and delighted" to help with the fundraising campaign.

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Shame on you Lloyds Bank
[info]jo_sparkles wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 07:40 am (UTC)
I am priviledged to have met two of the D-Day veterans, and although D-Day was obviously well before my time and indeed my parents' time, I am proud to have shaken the hands of these courageous gentlemen. I find it absolutely disgraceful that such a long-standing institution as Lloyds Bank would take this appalling attitude. I'd like to have been a fly on the wall when Mr Beattie's (eloquent) letter was received. Ouch. No amount of 'fire-fighting' by Lloyds will undo this offence.

My sincerest wishes and thanks to all our veterans for their bravery and dignity.
D-Day Veterans turned down by Lloyds Bank...
[info]ccbrass wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 08:11 am (UTC)
If I had any financial connection, or dealings with this bank; my money would make the most swift departure from their books!

Disgust and outrage!
Apology
[info]gollymolly44 wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 08:19 am (UTC)
What's the point of apologising? Has the bank also changed it's rules about what constitutes a worthwhile account? The current habit of demanding apologies for any perceived offence is counter productive as it gives offenders the appearance of being sorry but does nothing about the causes of the problem. Surely your fearless journalists should be trying to open an account for an invented purpose to see if the banks apology is actually worth anything in reality.
D-Day Veterans
[info]camnai wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 08:20 am (UTC)
1) Where is the person who made this decision going to be transferred? What does a bank do with an employee whose knowledge of the rules far exceeds his or her common sense? If this person is moving to a branch near me, could I please be warned?

2) 'Better judgement and more flexibility should have been exercised by us'? More ability with the English language should perhaps also be had by their spokespeople.
veterans
[info]pvp65 wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 08:23 am (UTC)
I would like to sponsor the veterans who where the liberators of my country and the rest of Europe 45 years ago. Can someone sent me the bank account details?
Re: veterans
[info]hermanville44 wrote:
Sunday, 15 February 2009 at 08:42 am (UTC)
log on to www.d-dayrevisited.co.uk
TRBL
[info]stickytruth2 wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 09:37 am (UTC)
Has Lloyd's bank got any connection with TRBL (The Royal British Legion), if cut them off.
Where would our country be without the services of these brave men and women, and let us not forget those who never came back.
All banks should be nationalise.
Simply astounding ...
[info]l3enz0 wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 12:56 pm (UTC)
... that anyone wants to set up any account with these failed institutions at all . Lloyds should have be grateful for any custom that comes their way . Still , it is a perfect example of the attitudes of these people and if I was a customer I would also move my account . They don't deserve to be in business .
Dday vets
[info]harrowrfc wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 01:36 pm (UTC)
How stupid are these people? And why the hell do we trust them with our hard earned dosh.
From Holland: shame shame shame
[info]harmkuijper wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 05:43 pm (UTC)
Acting from Holland I try nearly every day to support the British Vets with my website www.nvafriends.nl.
I can't find the right English words to express my thoughts on this act by the Lloyds Bank. And afterwards a plaster on the wounds by helping 2 vets to Normandy............ A coach full of veterans comes first!
SHAME SHAME SHAME, Lloyds! Disgusting!
D-Day veterans turned down for bank account
[info]davidgovett wrote:
Thursday, 12 February 2009 at 10:17 pm (UTC)
Englishmen and Englishwomen, you have despoiled your own country. On behalf of Nelson, Wellington, Churchill, Newton, Shakespeare, Vaughn Williams, Delius, Turner, Chaplin, Laurel, Hope, Darwin, Brunel, Johnson, and 10,000 other worthies, I say: Shame! Shame on you! Everlasting shame on you!
Provide no Benefit to Lloyds?
[info]flaber_gasted wrote:
Saturday, 14 February 2009 at 10:39 am (UTC)
"The request, to a Bristol branch of Lloyds, was received enthusiastically. However, the NVA's secretary Peter Hodge was later told the bank's London headquarters would not approve what it deemed a "temporary" facility because the cash would be withdrawn before the summer and would therefore "provide no benefit" to Lloyds.

What apart from the overnight interest they would have received until it was withdrawn.

"Last night, a spokeswoman for Lloyds TSB said: "We are extremely sorry for the upset and offence we caused Captain Peter Hodge. Better judgement and more flexibility should have been exercised by us.""

Oops! Somebody remembered the effect of bad publicity - Shame that thought came too late.
Greedy Bankers
[info]ataxibos wrote:
Saturday, 14 February 2009 at 02:24 pm (UTC)
Shame on Lloyds. I am a small independent taxi and cannot afford to sponsor a veteran, but if any are in the Sedgemoor district of Somerset I will do my utmost to help with transport links, Murray, 07525192264
d.day veterans
[info]hermanville44 wrote:
Saturday, 14 February 2009 at 05:55 pm (UTC)
D.DAY REVISITED has been set up in the Merseyside / Chester Area and we are at present able to completely fund a visit for a party of 84 Veterans, Spouses, carers, and medical staff. A 49 seater executive coach has been booked along with two 17 seat minibuses. We are also taking 4 members of the Cheshire Yeomanry to act as drivers and a strong arm to lean on. We to are looking for more funds hopefully to assist the return of more Veterans. As one of our sponsors said. " THEY DID NOT HAVE TO PAY THE FIRST TIME IN 1944 SO WHY SOULD THEY PAY NOW" For mor information please go to the web site www.d-dayrevisited.co.uk or www.ddaybattlefieldtours.co.uk
Veterans
[info]dripcan wrote:
Friday, 20 March 2009 at 06:05 pm (UTC)
I was eleven years old when D day took place and remember it well.Not only from scenes presented to us at the cinema and daily news papers but from the general conversations at the time.But not least the numdber of men that, whom I knew, did not come back,fathers and brothers of kids that I went to school with. Just think of what the families of those who lost their lives thought when we held a street party to celebrate the event.

Bernard D. Weeks ex R.N.

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