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Inside Yarl's Wood: Britain's shame over child detainees

Emily Dugan on the shocking treatment of families in immigration centres

Children suffering from serious medical conditions and the mentally ill were routinely kept in detention despite guidelines stating clearly they should not be

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Children suffering from serious medical conditions and the mentally ill were routinely kept in detention despite guidelines stating clearly they should not be

Children held in the infamous Yarl's Wood immigration detention centre are being denied urgent medical treatment, handled violently and left at risk of serious harm, a damning report by the Children's Commissioner for England will say tomorrow.

Sir Al Aynsley-Green's investigation paints a shocking picture of neglect and even cruelty towards children trapped within the centre's razor-wired walls, and finds "substantial evidence that detention is harmful and damaging to children and young people".

Since opening in 2001, the Bedfordshire detention centre has been plagued by hunger strikes, self-harm incidents, a suicide and riots. It was severely damaged by fire during disturbances in 2002. Despite repeated scandals – and the damning findings of this report – planning permission was given last month to double the centre's capacity from 405 places to nearly 900.

Around 2,000 children a year are held in immigration centres – half in Yarl's Wood, which has been run by a private company, Serco, since 2007. The experience they described is prison in all but name. Politicians, immigration experts and doctors last night called for an end to the detention of children and for urgent measures to ensure other detainees are treated humanely.

The report, based on the most recent inspection by Sir Al, reveals that basic safeguards for children in Yarl's Wood are failing. Welfare issues raising "serious concern" were ignored, with children forced to remain in custody even when they were seriously ill or in danger from parents with mental health problems, the report says. It also criticises the "scant regard to basic welfare needs" during arrest and transportation to the centre.

Key meetings between social services, the UK Border Agency (UKBA) and Yarl's Wood staff designed to discuss the welfare implications of keeping a child locked up for more than 28 days dwelt instead on PR and legal concerns. The commissioner calls for an urgent review to "ensure the best interests of the child are central to decisions on detention".

The UKBA claims that steps have now been taken to protect children since the inspection last May, but Lisa Nandy, policy adviser at The Children's Society, disputes this. "The agency has not made the improvements necessary to safeguard these children," she said. "The Secretary of State for Children must intervene immediately as this report exposes serious child protection risks which have not been adequately addressed."

The commissioner found that seriously ill children were denied hospital treatment, while bureaucracy substantially delayed others with critical conditions from getting to hospital. A baby with pneumonia and a teenager with severe mental health problems were among those affected. Despite being the main detention centre for children, no one on the Yarl's Wood health team has child health qualifications, the report says.

Sir Al found major healthcare shortcomings at the centre, describing safeguards, records and professionalism as inadequate and below NHS standards. He reports that two children with sickle cell disease were not allowed to bring their penicillin with them when they were seized from their homes. As a result they became seriously ill and required urgent treatment. Instead of being referred to hospital for intravenous fluids and antibiotics they were simply given paracetamol. Under the NHS this would be categorised as a life-threatening "Serious Untoward Incident".

Children suffering from serious medical conditions and the mentally ill were routinely kept in detention despite guidelines stating clearly they should not be. One diabetic child had three emergency treatments in the 24 days she was detained – including two occasions where her blood sugar left her "un-rousable" – but was still not released. An eight-month-old baby with asthma was neither released nor given an inhaler.

Immunisations were denied to children documented as needing them, creating a health risk. One child was even given the wrong vaccine, while the centre's policy for preventing malaria was described as containing "serious errors" and being "unacceptably poor".

Doctors working for Medical Justice, an organisation that provides voluntary medical assistance for Yarl's Wood families, insist there is wider evidence of medical abuse beyond the commissioner's report. They say they have documented evidence of a child under 12 being given his mother's anti-depressant drugs on removal; of a young person in severe pain with sickle cell disease being denied painkillers because he was unable to walk to the clinic to receive them in person; and of children contracting severe malaria on being returned to their home country because they were refused suitable preventative medicine.

Paediatrician Dr Fred Martineau said: "The detention of children, whether newborn babies or adolescents, almost invariably causes them physical or emotional suffering. Doctors from Medical Justice regularly see the effects of this, ranging from a failure to give immunisations against potentially fatal diseases, through to clinical depression ...The only way of preventing this harm is to end their detention."

Healthcare at Yarl's Wood has long been a problem, with outbreaks of vomiting bugs and chickenpox common. The centre was last night understood to be in the middle of yet another chickenpox quarantine.

The report describes the ordeal of "dawn raids" – where up to 20 officers arrive to seize families in the early hours of the morning. Children repeatedly reported being treated with violence, including being dragged on the floor and thrown to the ground.

Young people told how traumatised they were by the experience, noting that officers seemed to be laughing at them and "taking pleasure in the family's distress". The study said: "In a large majority of cases, children reported that officers' behaviour had been aggressive, rude and, on a few occasions, violent."

Children were even watched by officers of the opposite sex while they dressed, which the report called "an unacceptable safeguarding risk which must be addressed immediately". They also had to watch parents being handcuffed and heavily restrained – a direct flouting of UKBA guidelines. One mother, so distressed at being handcuffed in front of her family and thrown into a caged van, tried to hang herself with her son's shoelaces.

Caged prison vans are routinely used to transport children to the centre near Bedford, despite promises that people carriers would be used for families. Children were denied toilet breaks or food and drink. The vans, the report says, are "stained with urine and vomit".

The commissioner also expressed concern at the increase in the length of time for which children are being held, which threatens their mental well-being. Last week, the Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, told MPs: "Detention is a final option and is only used for the shortest period necessary." But the Children's Commissioner says: "The average length of time children and young people are being detained is increasing, and, crucially, the decision to detain them is neither being used as a last resort nor for the shortest period of time as required by Article 37 of the UN Convention on the Rights of a Child."

In conclusion, Sir Al calls for an end to the detention of children. "Each year in the UK, we detain around 2,000 children for administrative purposes. This has to end," he said.

His call was echoed by the Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg, who said: "The incarceration of thousands of children accused of no crime, often for months on end, is inhumane. The treatment of these vulnerable children in Yarl's Wood is a shameful indictment of the Government's failed immigration policy."

The Border and Immigration minister Phil Woolas said: "If people refuse to go home then detention becomes a necessity. We don't want to split up families, so we hold children with their parents, and while they are in our care we treat them with sensitivity and compassion."

Taken away: 'They came for us at night'

Dominic Mwafulirwa trembles at the words "Yarl's Wood". The eight-year-old was asleep when six guards wrenched him and his mother, Cecilia, 35, from their Swansea home in the early hours three months ago.

They had arrived in the UK from Malawi when Dominic was a year old. Cecilia, who had run away from an abusive husband, started a new life in Wales, where Dominic excelled at school. That life ended abruptly when the men arrived.

"Dominic didn't say a word from the time they came until we were locked up," Cecilia says. "It was hard to keep his spirits up. When I asked him why he wasn't going to the school at Yarl's Wood, he said: 'What's the point? We're not learning anything.' He refused to wash and started smashing things. He's still really angry and confused.

"We spent 50 days in that place. I lost 20kg. I'm a sickle cell patient and by the end of the 50 days my haemoglobin was too low. I'm really anaemic and they knew I had depression. They changed my medication and they threatened to take my son away."

Cecilia and Dominic have been out of Yarl's Wood since the end of March. They have yet to find out whether they will be allowed to stay in the UK.

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Yarl's Wood
[info]haroldamaio wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 12:10 am (UTC)
Children held in the infamous Yarl's Wood immigration detention centre are being denied urgent medical treatment, handled violently and left at risk of serious harm, a damning report by the Children's Commissioner for England will say tomorrow.

And? What will come of it? A damning report? Paper.
Seems To Be Very Clean
[info]mike4626 wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 05:24 am (UTC)
almost a palace compared to what they have allegedly come from.
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Keep children out
[info]chadi_salim wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 12:46 am (UTC)
The detention of children, who are not accused of no cime, is inhumane & incontravention of human rights. The Border and Immigration minister Phil Woolas commet that "If people refuse to go home then detention becomes a necessity. We don't want to split up families, so we hold children with their parents,'' is nonesense & ridiculious. Children shouldn't pay for the rebellion & non-compliance of their parents. By the same token, we don't try a child simply because his/her parents had committed a crime. This is an unacceptable justification for detainig children, let alone abusing & being violent to them. Keep children out of detention until their removal appication is ready then remove them.
IMMIGRATION CENTER TREATMENT
[info]fantazamaraz wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 01:30 am (UTC)
Oh c'mon now gimme a break...firstly they wouldn't be there if their families were here legit in the first place...this has been up to now unfortunately the most tolerant and lenient place on the Planet for immigrants, asylum seekers,etc.etc.etc. I am certain that life in ANY British immigration facility is 10,000 time more preferable with FAR better conditions than life where these people came here from.!
Re: IMMIGRATION CENTER TREATMENT
[info]blahblahbla9 wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 04:45 pm (UTC)
YOU SIR SHOULD BE LOCKED UP IN YARL'S WOOD FOR LIFE BECAUSE UNLIKE THOSE KIDS YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE TREATED LIKE A HUMAN BEING. IF YOU THINK THIS INHUMAN TREATMENT OF CHILDREN IS JUSTIFIED THAN YOU ARE A SCUMBAG OF A NAZI FASCIST AND YOU SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF YOUR CITIZENSHIP AND KICKED OUT OF THIS COUNTRY. THERE IS NO PLACE IN A FREE AND DEMOCRATIC UK FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!
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Re: IMMIGRATION CENTER TREATMENT
[info]nannieslagg wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 07:11 am (UTC)
your generalised reference to "these people" and where they came from displays your complete ignorance of other cultures.
Re: IMMIGRATION CENTER TREATMENT - [info]white_blood - Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 09:13 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: IMMIGRATION CENTER TREATMENT - [info]fantazamaraz - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 12:50 am (UTC) Expand
[info]fi5ty5ive wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 08:10 am (UTC)
If immigrants really feel like they are getting a raw deal, maybe they should try becoming economic migrants in another European country, there are many to choose from!

I am actually a bit poor at the moment and feel persecuted by the UK government. Maybe I should fly off to Bahrain and seek asylum there? If for whatever reason I don't get regular food vouchers, accommodation paid for by the government, free health care, free schooling for my children and a giro benefit, I will state my treatment is against my human rights.

I actually class myself as a left wing liberal, but the whole asylum debate really gets my goat. Fact is, if you don't like the system then leave, try another one in another country. The United Kingdom isn't a free for all and it should have responsibilities to its own citizens first and foremost.
[info]white_blood wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 09:19 pm (UTC)
Asylum seekers are not economic migrants. They are people escaping rape, torture, violence and death. They are seeking refugee status.

But you're quite right, let's not treat them with any human dignity or respect: second class humans, second class treatment, even if they are babes in arms.

Now... where have I heard that before....?
Asylum Seekers - [info]fantazamaraz - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 12:59 am (UTC) Expand
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Reality at Yarls Wood
[info]chappel wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 08:49 am (UTC)
Having worked in the medical clinics of more than one UK secure immigration centre, I can say without qualification that the general facilities provided in terms of medical and pastoral care, food, amenities and housing are certainly not as portrayed in this article.

Let's get another thing clear: lots of the people who arrive at these centres mix deviousness with an utter desperation to get out and melt into the black economy by whatever means, including resorting to criminal damage and violence, as they well know that they have no case to be accepted on asylum or any other immigration terms. This is why, despite the best efforts of very well-meaning and caring staff, there are instances of "hunger strikes, self-harm incidents, a suicide and riots." It?s also why they have to be kept in secure facilities. The alternative is to allow a free-for-all which would result in mass abscondments.

Another unspoken truth: The Children's Commissioner is another New Labour quangocrat, a superfluous busy-body who is motivated to invent problems where non arise, to keep him in a job. I simply do not believe his assertion that: ?seriously ill children were denied hospital treatment,? and would like to see his evidence. Centres are staffed by qualified doctors and nurses and provide round-the-clock medical treatment in excellent facilities.

To say that ?healthcare at Yarl's Wood has long been a problem, with outbreaks of vomiting bugs and chickenpox common,? completely misses the point that many of the people in these centres arrive there already carrying these sort of illnesses. It?s not the conditions in the centres which are the cause, the nurses and doctors perform immediate full medical assessments on newcomers upon their arrival, and have to cope with diseases once thought belonging to the middle ages such as scurvy.

If we don?t keep people who have no right to be in the country in secure detention facilities, the result will be chaos. People who refuse to face this fact, however uncomfortable it may be, are not seriously addressing the issue.
Re: Reality at Yarls Wood
[info]fi5ty5ive wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 10:19 am (UTC)
A very interesting and informative post!
Something the journalist Emily Dugan should read and possibly reply to, especially the last paragraph!
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Re: Reality at Yarls Wood - [info]fantazamaraz - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 01:08 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Reality at Yarls Wood - [info]bronnyelsp - Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 10:54 am (UTC) Expand
Sir Al Aynsley-Green
[info]derricks wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 11:13 am (UTC)
chappel's post is very good. Since it now seems inevitable that Cameron and his public school boys will take over the job of putting hundreds of thousands of people out of work next year we should try to see the "up-side" of unemployment. One light on the horizon is that they might sack Sir Al. One can only hope. He clearly hasn't got a grip on any aspect of reality. How do you detain law-breakers without detaining them? The man's an idiot. The fact that they are (even the kids) prepared to violently resist detention reflects the age old response of law breakers everywhere. Their parents are to be utterly condemned for dragging them into these awful situations and then trying to use their status as children to blackmail liberal guilt-ridden air heads into letting them go. This is why I would never buy the Guardian or the Independent any more.
Re: Sir Al Aynsley-Green
[info]white_blood wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 08:59 pm (UTC)
What laws have these people broken? Asylum seekers arrive legally. They ask to be assesed for refugee status, legally. They are admitted to be assessed, legally. They live here, legally. Children are born here, legally.

If the system decides against them, they are swooped up, put in cages and taken to Yarl's Wood. Quite often, the system has been faulty - and they are taken to Yarl's Wood ILlegally. If they are lucky, and have a good lawyer, they are then released and they sue the UK Government for ILlegally detaining them.

I'd have thought you'd be more concerned with how much of your money as a taxpayer, is being paid out in compensation from UKBA acting ILlegally, and detaining people who should not be detained.
Re: Sir Al Aynsley-Green - [info]aseeker1 - Monday, 25 May 2009 at 12:33 pm (UTC) Expand
time is not same always.
[info]ipl99 wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 11:56 am (UTC)
today we need help from british people ,who knows next british generation will need help from our nation.
Children watched by officers of the opposite sex while they dressed
[info]famulla wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 12:30 pm (UTC)
Children were even watched by officers of the opposite sex while they dressed, which the report called "an unacceptable safeguarding risk which must be addressed immediately".
To my amazements when I read this line, I wonder what sort of human we are. Honest. Then we talk of our kids carrying knives and going to the red zones and rob. We are pathetic and forgotten the religions and we have no moral. Is the fault of the tutors who are paid low? Is this the government self-indulging into the budget fixing forgetting that there are children our future assets, or are we plain stupid? Are we followers of Darwin and think that the new generations will give us better wisdom then we have. Then I must say we are in a sorry state. We are poor and illiterate. Irresponsible and carefree.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Where are the human rights NGOs, including feminist ones?
[info]nooraza wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 12:50 pm (UTC)
I blame the human rights NGOs for this! Where are they, including that Liberty group? They should have demanded regular co-operation and visitation with these kind of centres! That's what they are for; that include the reason why public donate funding!
shame on immigration policy
[info]viljam wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 01:10 pm (UTC)
the UK is still a rich country, just about. It can afford to treat people better. And if they are asylum seekers they shouldn't be detained at all. Smith and Woolas both play to the lynch-mob mentality. Heap contempt on Mugabe, and send back his refugees using brutal private-security bullies and humiliating treatment. Thankfully some airline pilots have the decency to refuse to take detainees who are restrained by these UKBA hireling brutes
Re: shame on immigration policy
[info]fantazamaraz wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 01:21 am (UTC)
Who is rich.? I'm certainly NOT. The vast majority of us
are struggling to survive.! We are a VERY small Island
Country that, thanks to officials who ignored the correct
warnings of Enoch Powell, have become overun with gypsies
and travellers, who illegally set up wnd trash wherever
and whenever they please.! Africans from goodness knows
where and hoardes of others who we definately do not need
here.! We cannot absorb the sad story masses of the World.!
We M U S T take care of our own working class, jobless,
poor and elderly F I R S T.!!! Let the rest of Europe and
the World, who have much more space offer them help and
we'll just watch and admire.!
Treatment of children at Yarl's Wood
[info]christieeden wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 01:41 pm (UTC)
Even those who have been refused leave to stay in the UK, for whatever reason(s) it does not necessarily follow that they are 'devious' or 'willing to commit crimes and acts of violence' in order to stay in the UK (to paraphrase a few of you who have commented). There may indeed be some elements of such behaviour from some people, as well as a wish to 'melt into the black economy', borne, I expect, out of a sheer desperation to escape such circumstances those of fortunate enough to have been born and bred in this country can only try to imagine. However, whether these children are there because their parents have refused to leave this country willingly, or whilst their parents await to hear whether they have leave to stay, you can't tell me that such treatment and conditions of children (or adults for that matter!) is necessary or else 'chaos' or a 'free for all' will ensue! And as for those of you who reason that whatever the conditions in the centre, it must be better than wherever those detained have originally hailed from, what kind of reasoning is that? This is treatment that contravenes International Human Rights laws and British law, not to say general standards of decency and there s no excuse for it regardless of why the detainees are being held there in the first place.
Yarls Wood
[info]shirleyrose wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 02:29 pm (UTC)
We must read this story with care - surely they must be having a better life than they had at their own home state, you are only hearing one side of the story. Why were they all allowed in in the first place. I am sorry if this seems to be very harsh but this is what is meant by accepting every body else but not accepting the gurkhas who have earned the right to be here, and this is being denied to them. They would be an asset to this country and yet this government appears to not want them. How did all the people in the immigration centres afford to come here claiming ayslum if they are so poor. When I was at school everybody knew that the first country you reached was the place where you sought asylum - what has happened to that.
Re: Yarls Wood
[info]white_blood wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 09:23 pm (UTC)
I imagine the Ghurkas would rather hack their own arms off, than be linked to your views on this issue.

Ghurkas have honour, and care passionately for children. It's one reason they deserve so much respect from us.

Also, the first country you reach is the first place the transport you are on lands on. I think you'll find for a lot of people, that's Heathrow Airport, as they mistakenly believe the British are fair, humane and caring of the Human Rights of others.

Isn't it a pity, they are so wrong?
Yarl's Wood is fine
[info]southern770 wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 03:06 pm (UTC)
Maybe if these asylum seekers were not so arrogant to demand a god given right to be in the UK, and went back after their claims are rejected, places like Yarlswood and Harmondsworth, need not exist. Sadly failed asylum seekers are genuinely dishonest and the amount that abscond is very high.

How do you deal with someone who deliberately goes to the toilet to avoid being put on a plane?

Sedation I guess is the only answer.
Re: Yarl's Wood is fine
[info]white_blood wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 09:37 pm (UTC)
Do feel free to back up your claims with facts.

Which should be interesting, as those whose job it is to assess such things, point out that mothers with children in school are the least likely group to abscond. Little things like feeding their kids, seeing them safe in a clean bed at nights, and learning enough to raise them out of abject poverty, being important to the mothers.

But no doubt you know better! :-)

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RE:chadi_salim wrote:
[info]southern770 wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 03:09 pm (UTC)
Yeah, lets no detain families. Lets tell them that at 10am next Thursday they need to be at home to be collected to be put on a flight home.

Lets see how many actually would remain at home.

People need to accept that detention is necessary and hopefully with a change of government on the horizon, we'll have treble the amount of bed spaces to remove failed asylum seekers and overstayers.
to those who would prefer to pretend this isn't true
[info]wakeupc wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 05:21 pm (UTC)
it's very sad to see so many people expressing such bitterness toward the people caught up in this system. because taxpayer money is used to pay for government facilities doesn't mean that it's ok for those facilities to abuse people, neglect children's medical needs, humiliiate people. i'm disgusted by the thoughtless venom of these responses to evidence of human suffering carried out under the auspices of the british government.
Yarl's Wood
[info]septimusgrunge wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 04:23 pm (UTC)
Who let these people in, they are an abslute drain on our limited resources. If they don't like it they can crawl back under whichever rock they emerged from

septimusgrunge
ggod god!!
[info]vhawk1951 wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 05:20 pm (UTC)
god god, which minister is responsible for this outrage?- did he or she know about these outrages?-if so what is the point of him or her?
these are children for crying out lod
mind you that rather depends on how you define children I would say any human being under 12 years of age
if this story applies to little children it is truly monstrous- but maybe I have the wrong end of the stick
Re: ggod god!!
[info]bronnyelsp wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 11:01 am (UTC)
Children are defined as under the age of majority, 18.
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Immigrant Detention
[info]stuart_plymouth wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 06:44 pm (UTC)
The point we mustn't forget is that these people are detained because they are illegal immigrants. When caught they have the option to be deported, but choose to stay while an appeal is heard.

It's not intended to be a pleasurable experience, it just encourages more people to appeal. If they had entered the country legally, after applying through the proper channels, then they wouldn't face either deportation or detention.

Despite world opinion to the contrary, the UK is not and should not be a holiday camp open to all and sundry.
Re: Immigrant Detention
[info]white_blood wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 09:28 pm (UTC)
They have not been detained for being illegal immigrants.

Goodness me, did a chapter of the BNP find out about this article, and ask every member in the country, who knows nothing at all of the issues and the processes, to post nonsense in the comments?

You do wonder!

Please do try and catch up on the facts! It might help you in being heard, if you actually spoke on what happens. Deary deary me - you should all get better briefings!
Re: Immigrant Detention - [info]fantazamaraz - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 01:24 am (UTC) Expand
Poor Cecilia and Dominic!!ha ha
[info]sjfishy wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 07:13 pm (UTC)
Of course Cecilia had run away from an 'abusive husband'...I'm amazed that coming from Malawi, she was allowed to leave her husband and take her child with her.
How did she manage to pay for her and her sons travel to the UK?
Of course, she brought her 'sickle cell' with her...and then complains that her FREE medication was changed. I'm absolutely sure that the Malawi Government wouldn't give her free anything!

Cecilia....One piece of advice...if you don't like it here in Britain, then you can always go home!
You managed to get here...now's your chance to return to a better life and who knows...the abusive husband, might have changed his ways?
BLOGGERS
[info]pprs wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 08:36 pm (UTC)
Being techno phobe I am not used to blogging . But since it in all tre papaers I decided to look at thIs one . I was astonished .Where do all these embittered people come from ? I my longish life I have never come across such an undiluted stram of bile and abuse . It seems sad that people should betray such rage .And this from people who read the Independent . what on earth are te ones in the Sunday express like
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Total Shite!
[info]kodak321 wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 08:11 pm (UTC)
This detention centre, is a luxury resort for third world rubbish. Kick the bloody lot of them out (as other European Countries do), and close our borders. Even in the depths of recession, we care more for (foreign ILLEGAL), third worlders, than our own. A sick Country - no wonder so many ethnic Brits want to get away.
Re: Total Shite!
[info]white_blood wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 09:31 pm (UTC)
Once again, with feeling.

They are not illegal immigrants. :-)

And if you are one fo the 'ethnic Brits' who want to get away - please leave! I'll sleep happier in my bed tonight, thinking that people like you, who talk of 'third world rubbish' are gone.

Wonder who'll take you 'tho? Even South America is a bit dodgy on 'ethnic Brit' immigration lately...
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Bigotry, Hatred & Lies
[info]caliburnuk wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 08:21 pm (UTC)
I have read the comments by various people with fear. Fear that this country has fallen to the point that people can display such bigotry. Fear that people prefer to believe their own assumptions than well documented facts. Fear that we can dehumanify small babies and young children to the point where it is acceptable to treat them in such appalling ways, with the most absurd justifications.

We have changed language to disguise our behaviour. We call them asylum seekers, not refugees. It makes it easier to not ask what they are seeking refuge from. We presume that failed asylum seekers have had fair and equitable treatment by our legal system, and not the kangaroo court administrative system which has raised the bar so high that it is a miracle that any applications are ever accepted.

We accept the lies told daily by ministers and officials. Even though dozens of people from high to low, peers to ordinary people, including paediatricians, doctors, lawyers (not just asylum lawyers), MP's MEP's and not just the English, but the Scottish and Welsh Children's Commissioners, plus HM Inspector of Prisons, have all, from direct visits, and documentary evidence including the actual medical reports from Yarlswood, incomplete though they have often been, and medical histories prior to and after Yarlswood, have all told the same story of abusive and neglectful treatment. Not to mention the evidence in a number of court cases where the Judges comments have been damning in the extreme.

But the government continues to deny that anything is wrong. And nothing is done.

Why? Because the laws governing asylum seekers and detention centres have been written, and continue to be amended, so as to remove the entire system from normal UK law.

I am really afraid though because people like chappel, who I cannot believe ever worked at Yarlswood, have a mentality that believes the lies, even whilst working inside the system. I have met others, who can tell you lies are truth with absolute sincerity.

We have destroyed the normal legal system in this country as far as asylum seekers is concerned, perhaps beyond repair. We see similar removals of the checks and balances that were put in place over hundreds of years, in the cases of alleged children at risk, where the allegation itself is enough to take the most drastic action, rightly or wrongly. We see it in the cases of 'terrorists', few of whom are ever convicted. Where else are we going to see it? Where do we draw the line in the sand. Because our continuing failure to treat asylum seekers, especially children as young as four weeks, with compassion, dignity, and a reasonable right to such basics as medical treatment, appropriate food, and access to proper play and educational facilities, says that as a country we are already on a slippery slope.

If I hear that there has been a fire at the houses of Parliament, and the government has introduced emergency legislation, then all my worst fears will have become real.
What sort of people are we?
[info]st_pennells wrote:
Sunday, 26 April 2009 at 08:40 pm (UTC)
What a shabby state we live in that a Labour government allows this to go on. And what a feeble response by Phil Woolas. What sort of people are we?

Some pupils I taught several years ago were removed to YW. When we phoned and badgered I was told that education was provided, but speaking to one of them her response was consonant with the picture painted here.

We cannot feel high minded about US treatment of detainees when we still have this.

And bodies like Manchester City Council are happy to farm out their Aquatic Centre to Serco. Shame!
Yarl's Wood
[info]irreantum wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
From the evidence which has arisen recently, from G20 and now this, it would seem that all PACE has done is shift police brutality to other areas, ie outside the police station! It takes real He-men to treat women and children in this way!

As for the inhumane treatment these people have suffered, the British population would be up in arms, calling for immediate end to this treatment, if it were animals being so abused! It is an utter disgrace that it has been allowed to go on for so long.


Yarls wood
[info]chopper2329 wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 09:57 am (UTC)
Well said blahblahblah,unfortunately there are too many nazi inbreds who think the same!
Knucle draggers the lot of them!!!!
SYMPATHIZERS
[info]fantazamaraz wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 01:01 pm (UTC)

There are those among us who would sympathize with even bin laden or the devil himself should they apply for asylum. In a democracy however the majority rules and there is no doubt in my mind that they do NOT want these people here.!
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