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Backlash over bankers' bonuses

Britain's bailed-out institutions are prepared to pay millions to staff, and government plans will not stop them. Brian Brady and David Randall report

A mutinous backlash is growing in Britain this weekend against banks' plans to carry on paying staff millions in bonuses as if the credit crunch had never happened. The Independent on Sunday understands that the Government intends to try to head off the rising tide of resentment against bankers by saying that it will be an "active shareholder" in the institutions receiving significant bailout cash, and say no to "excessive payments".

But the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, will stop short of an absolute veto on bonuses or a salary cap at taxpayer-rescued banks such as Northern Rock, Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Banking Group. Treasury sources say he will also try to "coax" other banks to rein in pay and bonus packages. He will set up a review "which will examine how banks are managed. I expect the review to make recommendations about the effectiveness of risk-management by banks' boards, including how pay affects risk-taking."

Despite the recession, Britain's clearing banks will this month pay out millions to staff in bonuses. RBS, now propped up with £20bn of public money, wants to pay its staff almost £1bn in bonuses, it emerged yesterday. Critics contrasted the Government's "mere words" with the decisive and legally enforceable cap on executive pay and bonuses announced by President Barack Obama in the US. They dismissed the Chancellor's plans as not much more than a non-binding code of conduct, which banks are sure to flout.

Mr Darling's proposals were greeted with widespread dismay throughout the Labour benches. One former minister, Mark Fisher, said: "I don't think the public would like to see any bonuses going to these banks. This is far too modest an approach. Obama is getting nearer to the mark, but even that is quite restrained. Bonuses should be rewards for performing above the level required. These people underperformed, so we should be penalising them." And one minister said: "I would go further and take back any bonuses they have already been paid. At a time when we are asking people to pull together and contribute to the economy, we should make an example of these people."

Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman, said the move was welcome, but it was "overdue, too vague, and not radical enough".

There is now growing concern within the Cabinet that the bonus culture is causing anger in the country, and will render ridiculous any attempts by ministers to tell voters "we're all in the same recessionary boat", while calling for sacrifices. The Leader of the Commons, Harriet Harman, announcing an Equality Commission inquiry into sexual discrimination in City bonus schemes, said: "There is something rotten in the remuneration system of the banks and finance companies. Men paying themselves millions of pounds of bonuses each – and then saying that they didn't know what was going on. Is anyone going to justify a system any more which allows for the old boys' network to fall back on a financial cushion of millions of pounds while helping to cause the problems that make others struggle?

"The Financial Services Authority ... is also conducting a review into bonuses. They will need to stop the bonus system encouraging those at the top taking risks with everyone else's money. It's right that those who've left the RBS have done so without severance pay and that there will be no board-level bonuses in the banks where the public purse has stepped in to secure their future. But the Equality Commission and the FSA reviews will clearly need to take things further."

The Children's Secretary, Ed Balls, told the conference: "We didn't act to save the bankers – as some have claimed – but to stop the entire financial system from collapsing. And [we are] demanding, in return, new lending and a new culture of responsibility – with an end to big rewards for failure."The Communities Secretary, Hazel Blears, said: "I don't support huge bonuses for people at the top who took some pretty irresponsible decisions.What I do say is that we need a banking system in this country that does its job; that lends money for mortgages and small businesses."

Mr Cable said: "What on earth has the Government been doing since October, when it stated it would exercise discipline over bonuses as a price for using £37bn of taxpayers' money to save the banks from collapse?"

Calls for banks to adopt a culture that better reflects the new realities have been given added impetus in recent days by two developments. First, the realisation that other countries were taking a far tougher line with bank bonuses than Britain. President Obama announced that executives at US banks receiving bailout cash would have their pay capped at $500,000 and would not be allowed to pay bonuses in anything other than share options to be exercised only after the public purse has been paid back. Other countries (see panel, right) have been equally robust.

Then it was reported that two of the banks receiving huge sums of taxpayers' money intended to push through substantial bonuses to large numbers of staff before any new rules prevented such payouts. Royal Bank of Scotland, which is being propped up with £20bn of public money and is 68 per cent owned by the Government, is preparing to make payouts to thousands of senior staff. And Lloyds, which has taken £17bn in rescue money, is to pay out hundreds of millions in bonuses. Barclays, which has tapped Bank of England loans and guarantees running into billions of pounds, is also thought to be planning to pay £1.7bn to traders in Wall Street under the terms of its acquisition of part of the collapsed Lehman Brothers.

Opposition to the bonuses has been building for some time. Last week's disputes over the awarding of jobs to foreign workers were seen in part as a manifestation of the feeling in many quarters that there is one set of economic laws for the banks and another for the rest of the country. On Monday, Barclays is due to announce profits that are likely to exceed the projected figure of £5.3bn. And on Tuesday and Wednesday, a number of high-profile bankers will face the Commons Treasury Select Committee. Those who will be questioned include Sir Fred Goodwin, former chief executive of Royal Bank of Scotland, Andy Hornby, former chief executive of HBOS, plus senior executives from Barclays, Lloyds, Abbey and HSBC.

The banking industry has always been adept at making the case for the bonus culture that so thoroughly pervades it. The argument that high rewards must be paid to keep staff has receded somewhat as the quality of those hired has been found wanting. Andrew Haywood, employment lawyer at Dawsons LLP, said: "Many workers in the financial industry are grateful to still be employed."

And every day comes further economic gloom. Figures released at the end oflast week showed that manufacturing suffered its biggest quarterly slump for 35 years. Companies in liquidation rose by 52 per cent.

Another former minister, Peter Kilfoyle, said the Chancellor should clamp down on bonuses immediately. He said: "Mr Darling needs to go into these banks and leave them under no illusions that they are effectively owned by the taxpayer and they should change their attitude accordingly."

Ban the bonuses: The IoS Banks Manifesto

We demand:

* Britain's banks, especially those receiving public funds, should immediately adopt a policy of voluntary restraint, in pay and bonuses.

* If taxpayers are paying, their representatives should decide on bonuses, and any earned should be given in share options, exercisable only when public funds have been repaid.

* Failure should not be rewarded. Bonuses paid in the past year by banks bailed out by the taxpayer should be repaid now.

* At a time of widespread job losses and sacrifice, it is vital that there is a not only a widespread perception of fairness, but the reality of it too.

The payouts

Lawrence Fish Non-executive chairman, Royal Bank of Scotland

One of Britain's best-paid directors despite being rarely seen at the bank's headquarters, Mr Fish received £6.6m in salary, benefits and bonuses in 2006 and leaves the crippled bank in April with a pension worth more than £1m.

Sir Fred Goodwin 50, former chief executive of RBS

Paid £4.2m in 2007, including a £2.86m bonus. During his nine years in the top job, Sir Fred led 26 takeovers and earned £30m. Although he waived a £1.2m payoff, he still has a pension pot worth an extra £8.37m.

Peter Cummings Former head of corporate lending at HBOS

By 2007 was earning £2.6m, including a £1.8m bonus. As the head of corporate lending, he was in charge of a loan book worth £109bn. The 52-year-old took early retirement last month.

John Varley Group chief executive of Barclays

Rejected a government bailout in favour of a £7bn cash injection from the royals in Qatar and Abu Dhabi but is facing criticism as share prices continue to nosedive. Mr Varley was paid £2.42m in 2007 and a bonus of £1.425m.

Bob Diamond Outgoing chief executive of Barclays Capital Investment Bank

The investment bank saw explosive growth until it took huge hits recently from the US sub-prime mortgage crisis. In 2007 his bonus fell from £10.425m to a relatively miserly £6.5m. He has pocketed £21.3m in bonuses since 2005.

Michael Geoghegan 50, chief executive of HSBC

Took on the top job in March 2006 and is known as a 'banker's banker' who worked his way up on the unglamorous retail side. Criticised for being conservative, HSBC is now seen as prudent. He received £2.955m in 2007 and a £1.915m bonus.

View from abroad: How other countries are dealing with the issue

United States President Barack Obama has limited salaries to $500,000 at bailed-out banks.

Norway: Banking executives taking action ahead of any government-imposed cap, promising voluntarily to freeze their salaries.

Netherlands Government has taken steps to limit "golden handshakes" to one year's salary for departing banking and insurance executives who received government help.

France President Nicolas Sarkozy ruled out bonuses for bank executives benefiting from state handouts worth £9.2bn. Executives at carmaker Renault SA have done the same.

Germany Government has capped annual salaries at €500,000 and prohibited bonuses and dividend payments for senior managers at banks taking government bailout funds. Deutsche Bank will next week slash bonuses for investment bankers and others by 60 per cent.

Switzerland Banks will announce bonus cuts of up to 80 per cent when they report 2008 figures next week.

Denmark Danske Bank has scrapped bonuses for its board and severely cut those for staff.

UK Restraints on executive pay at both Royal Bank of Scotland, now 68 per cent government-owned, and Lloyds Banking Group, 43 per cent public-owned. No formal restrictions on bonuses or pay for junior bankers at either company.

Israel Bank of Israel will publish guidelines on bonuses by the end of the month.

South Korea Executives voluntarily cutting salaries and bonuses. No government restrictions have been imposed.

Russia Salary caps for executives being discussed.

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Snouts, trough, greed, underperformance. Business as usual then..
[info]usualmark wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 02:08 am (UTC)
What an outrage! So of the RBS 20Bn taxpayers bailout fund, approx 1Bn or 5% is apparently going straight into the pockets of totally undeserving senior management. Bonuses should be solely based on OVERPERFORMANCE i.e you get paid for doing your job to a defined standard, and a bonus if that standard is exceeded. Under no objective criteria can these possibly be warranted. The whole premise of "bonuses attract the highest calibre staff" is utterly discredited.

When will the Government start taking some proper control with OUR MONEY?? The whole system needs to be restructured to prevent bonuses being paid in cash - they should be share options which are only exercisable a minimum of 5 years later.
Merchant Bankers...
[info]steve_wilds wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 02:25 am (UTC)
So 5% of all the money we've given to the banks to encourage them to lend it back to us is going straight into the "big swinging dicks" back pockets? They really don't give a shit do they?

No-one needs that much money, and if they do they've got more money than sense.
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 04:13 am (UTC)
When our savings are controlled by prostitutes disguised as "Bankers"; it is inevitable that money will be frittered away to the pimps and other "low lifes" controlling the World's finances.
RIP.
[info]thisanthat wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 05:17 am (UTC)
Despite the gravity of the finacial situation in this once noble land it appears the "RIP OFF BRITAIN" syndrome is alive and well! This is a criminal act no matter what philosophy of succes/failure is attributed to the reason for such awards.
so they will leave... so what?
[info]mynewcat wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 05:20 am (UTC)
I've heard it said capping or removing bonuses for finance executives will drive them to other companies - so what? are they not the same people who were asleep at the wheel as these problems came up? they are paid to be leaders not handle-turners; problems arose and they were too complacent to notice - no rewards for them.
[info]mrjohn01 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 06:19 am (UTC)
A lot depends on the distribution of the money, last year the banks were saying that regular staff also received bonuses and these topped up very modest salaries. If this is true then within the sector there is a huge disparity in earning, which in itself points to an unhealthy exploitative culture.

People working for a company at any level are dependent on the staff that support them. Often the people who appear to be star performers are actually taking credit for other people's efforts and insights. Bonuses are dependent on the company's overall performance as well as ones own, so even if you are doing well if the company as a whole is struggling you take it on the chin. That is the downside of the security of operating in a company. If the bankers believe they deserve their bonuses as individuals they should go freelance and prove it, they should also agree to be personally liable for any losses.

In reality the bankers are a deluxe version of the social security scrounger. Same attitude, bigger expectations.
Bonus payments
[info]daustint wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 07:46 am (UTC)
It is incredible that such poor performance should be rewarded in this way. Bonus payments, at what effectively publicly owned banks, should be stopped, or at the very least capped. Any contractual agreements in place should have been ripped up the day the bank went bust and we bailed it out.
Bankers Bonus
[info]mato54 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 07:48 am (UTC)
I find it really frustrating that all you see in the headlines is "bankers". I work for HSBC and they accepted no funds from the government bail out fund. No taxpayers cash has gone towards keeping the company afloat. I'm not acting all corporate and flying the flag, but it gets to me when people talk about bankers as if they are vermin. We are hard working people who work very hard for our money and any bonuses that may come attached to a modest salary. Its easy for people to point the finger at banks for causing all the problems with the world economy, but surely we are all the cause with our credit cultre outlook on spending. I didn't see anyone with a gun to their head as they were signing up for a 125% mortgage they couldn't afford and then borrowing against the property as soon as there was some sort of equity available when house prices were rocketing. As for my original point - please dont put all banks in the same box - we are not all the same and I for one am proud of that.
Hidden depths to this new form of sleaze
[info]sportingmac wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 07:51 am (UTC)
Now then - you don't want to bite the hands that feed you do you. There is more hiiden depths to this NuLabour than you might guess at. Let's start a conspiracy that goes like this: WThe banks were bailed out by NuLabour because......they needed the money! I am of course referring to NuLabour.
Bonus Culture
[info]paul999 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 08:00 am (UTC)
By any measure possible there can be no justification for these bonuses. RBS is in serious trouble and without my money, taken from me by the government, it could not survive. Now 1/20th of my money is to be paid to the employees of the bank whilst the share price has tanked and losses are enormous. What kind of contract do these people have and can I have one please? Oh no of course not, I am self employed and have to earn the money I pay myself.

From the wonderful Hull 4 London 0 album sleeve by the HouseMartins in 1986

For too long the ruling class have enjoyed an extended New Years Eve Party
whilst we can only watch, faces pressed up against the glass
The Housemartins say:
Don't try gate crashing a party full of bankers. Burn the house down.

Not a lot has changed in the intervening 23 years.
Bank Bonuses???
[info]bgarvie wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 08:38 am (UTC)
It is typical of a dysfunctional Government to allow this behaviour. It shows utter contempt for the tax payer. As Brown and Darling seem completely incapable of solving anything, it is seriously time to elect another Government.
Re: Bank Bonuses???
[info]richardjeff wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 09:17 am (UTC)
I agree we could do with another government...but George Osborne as Chancellor.....you must be joking , he would be much worse than Brown or Darling. Promote Ken Clarke and I might vote Tory again.
Re: Bank Bonuses??? - [info]wetgash - Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 11:50 am (UTC) Expand
Obscene Bonuses
[info]young_granny wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 09:13 am (UTC)

Are OAPs with no Pension other than the useless OAP pittance, and eaking out an existence from interest on Savings supposed to be grateful for the opportunity to contribute to the Unspeakable by donating that interest to them instead of to the usual utilities? Talk of rubbing salt into the wounds.
banker's bonus payments
[info]farmerrobin wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 09:18 am (UTC)
While I realise that the senior bankers will have legally binding contracts & will, no doubt, sue their employers if these are not fully met, they should be given absolutely no choice in the matter -- no bonus or no job & no bonus & a change in law to cover the matter. As usual our Govt. is effectively cow towing to these greedy incompetents [they are, by definition, incompetent or we wouldn't be in such a global mess] by not being absolutely firm with them. Basically, they shouldn't be let loose with anything more difficult than a chip shop in future; bring back assett backed banking --this is supposed to be a risk free sector. Regards, Robin Sidebottom.
Let's have another review!
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 10:03 am (UTC)
The bank bail out began four months ago amidst banner headlines with the PM grinning like a baboon and strutting round Europe encouraging all to do the same. Naturally the man in the street assumed the bonus culture would be curbed by the government, but no. And what is the answer? Yet another review, and whilst this is going on we hear that Ms Harperson is demanding a sex discrimination review of the city bonus culture. You really couldn't make it up.
Bonuses
[info]grey_cardigan61 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 10:07 am (UTC)
The fact that those bankers have the gall to expect those bonuses at a time like this, and with what amounts to taxpayers' money, shows the contempt they have for ordinary people. Recession? What recession? Recession is for the little people.
This government will lose the next election over this. But who will replace it?
And we call this democracy.

Amoral Corruption
[info]humble_sparrow wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 10:09 am (UTC)
While a burglar can go to jail for up to 4 years for robbing someone's house and stealing a DVD player or TV worth 100 quid (and so he should) a banker can make more money in the way of bonuses by loosing trillions of dollars, put lots of people out of work and walk away with a big smile on his face thinking secretly that the world is full of stupid people whom he can manipulate to do anything he wants and it seems he's right.

This is the type of amoral corruption and lack of personal responsibility that caused this whole situation to arise in the first place.

But secretly in my minds eye these guys may have benefited the planet by screwing up the industrial complex before it damages everything beyond repair, for a short time at least. :-)
Bonuses
[info]grey_cardigan61 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 10:24 am (UTC)
It takes some gall to be planning to pay out bonuses at a time like this. But recession is for the little people, didn't you know?

This government is going to lose the next election over this. But who is going to take over? The traditional supporters of the priviliged.

And this is our precious democracy.
banker's bonuses
[info]yewtree100 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 10:25 am (UTC)
It is outrageous to think that bank bosses, who by their reckless lending have lead this country into recession, are now to receive bonuses! By definition, a bonus is surely a reward for a job well done. Are we to assume then that our government, in allowing such rewards to go through, are actually commending these people for sending us into this recession which has had such far reaching consequences for the majority.
Bank Sector Bonuses
[info]sauron_55 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 10:32 am (UTC)
In the same way our beloved PM believes in working with his peers around the world to address the current crisis, should this stance not equally apply to the treatment of Bonus payments to the Banks where Tax payers are significant shareholdrs? He should manadate a position into these instutions and cap salaries and bonus payments in line with other European countries. If these people are so good at their jobs then pay them stock options and tie them to a return to better times.

As Tax and Mortgage payers we are seeing little relief from the money we are putting in these instutions by way of interest relief. Paying money out to these people who have operated like leemings following the Americans into this subprime fueled nightmare just rubs salt in the wounds we are all struggling with.

I have just lost my job coutesy of this mess these so called leaders of the banking industry have walked us all into. Why should they take benfit at the expense of the hard working members of society.

It's time for radical change in the banking Industry and the time is NOW! Stop re-enforcing poor performance (judgement in the banks case) with obscence rewards.
Bank Bonuses
[info]swfeltham wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 11:02 am (UTC)
Obscene and immoral.
As a taxpayer, I am really angry that the banks, especially those receiving bailouts from tax payers, still feel it is right to pay bonuses. They may argue that they are contractually obliged to do so, but I don't think that anyone is contractually obliged to accept. As a pensioner, I have seen the interest on my savings all but wiped out. So effectively I have a cut in my income. In addition, as a taxpayer, I will see my taxes rise so in effect I will be paying twice for others sheer recklessness. It seems that these days, there is no reward for reasonable personal responsibility and prudence. Prior to my retirement I was a Finance Manager with a major airline. After 9/11 when the airline industry was in severe financial trouble, not only did we all have to undergo major cost cutting excercises - working much harder for the same pay in most cases, but also took voluntary pay custs and as for the performance bonus - nobody expected to be paid these. What was important was that we took all the actions to ensure the company's survival and our futures.
My husband, who banks with one of the bailed out institutions is in the process of transferring his account as a form of protest. I wonder if others will do likewise.
SW. Feltham
Bankers Bonuses
[info]ianhood wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 11:06 am (UTC)
If I did my job as poorly as the banks, and lost billions, I certainly would not be rewarded with a bonus, quite the contary
The Government is part of the problem
[info]allenn007 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 11:13 am (UTC)
The Government is still consistently failing to properly control the banks and looks unwilling to do so.
Darling's plan is all words and no action, too wishy-washy, too vague. We need to hear definite clear-cut Obama-style policies to control the banks, but of course this govt. is and always will be in bed with the banks.

Staggeringly, a lack of regulation prevails even after the massive bailouts. Many banks are still not passing on the interest rate cuts to borrowers, so what is the point?

And yet savers are suffering. Why not have used some of those many billions to protect savers instead. Yes just give it to savers as compensation for less interest earnings.

This thing just gets worse by the day because of the government.
Banker's arithmetic
[info]young_granny wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 11:33 am (UTC)
When I was a girl I had some difficulty with sums that went on about water flowing in and out of cisterns. I would appear that Bankers have a similar difficulty. If so, what are they doing running a bank? I did, however, understand Mr Macawber's theory in "David Copperfield" about income and expenditure. Of course the cistern is empty - Bankers have been syphoning it off for years. Are they illiteratute as well as amoral? "A love of money is the root of all evil"
Now its Pay Back time - Lets have a few heads to stop up the leaks.
It seems that now they have had our money they now want our blood.
However the system has turned our blood to stone and you can't get blood out of a stone.

Look how a once enterprising nation has been defeated by a bit of snow!
We have been sapped in so many ways - are we going to continue taking it?

mato54
[info]mrjohn01 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 11:34 am (UTC)
I think you are a bank employee, not a banker, but I understand your frustration. Every industry has the same problem, the greedy and unscrupulous queering the pitch for the rest of us. The problem for banking is that the primary commodity is money, which seems to intensify the equation.
bank bonuses
[info]bioxco wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 11:40 am (UTC)
there is no doubt that it is huge bonuses of key executives that directed the policies of major banks which led to all these losses. i am dismayed that nothing is being done to introduce a law to allow investors or others affected to go after the past bonuses of the people who brought Britain down, never mind the absolute scandal of the latest bonuses for losses "scheme". the banks which received the taxpayers' funds were effectively bust. if they indeed were allowed to go bust, no employment contracts would have been honoured. the government can easily legislate to both suspend all bonus clauses and cap salaries in all employment contracts. it is ESSENTIAL they do it because there are many more huge losses and shocks to come. half a trillion of equity withdrawls/ remortgaging and another half a trillion of personal loans taken out during the so called "boom" years have not even started going bad properly. the government won't be able to borrow it's way out of this crisis, it is a folly to think otherwise. there will be an all mighty bust in the end and ordinary people will suffer most. the government really must act swiftly as there WILL be a lot of anger in the society later on, they must show thet those who brought the country down are not left in comfort and or continue to rip us all off. the argument that the best bankers will move to some far away country where they will be paid better is TRUELY idiotic. where exactly? US? Far East? Europe? NOBODY would want them. the government's dream that the banks will return to being fast profit generating pressure cookers helping the country out of recession is an illusion, the old con-model of banking is finished, the banks will return to where they belong - being a relatively boring utilities and this is exactly what is needed. otherwise they will continue presenting a clear and present danger to al of us.
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