UK

9° London Hi 11°C / Lo 6°C

Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll

By Joe Churcher, Press Association

Britain must not take sides in the Iranian election dispute, Foreign Secretary David Miliband warned today as he said there were "credible reports" of more than seven deaths in deadly clashes.

Appealing for restraint by the authorities in Tehran, he played down the reforming credentials of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi and said the West should not "fall into the trap" of backing one side.

Mr Miliband spoke out shortly before it was reported that the country's Guardian Council had declared itself ready to recount votes after the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad which has sparked mass protests.

"The most fervent hope is for peaceful protest to be met with peaceful response from the state authorities," he told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme.

"The loss of life that's happened - the seven that have been reported, the credible reports of greater loss of life - are to be deplored very clearly."

But he said it was vital that the UK, the US and other nations were not seen to interfere, echoing American President Barack Obama's message that, whatever the election result, "the world is watching".

"I thought that President Obama chose his words very carefully and very appropriately last night and I spoke to Mrs (Hillary) Clinton, the Secretary of State, and we are all determined not to fall into the trap of being seen to back one side or the other," Mr Miliband said.

"This is not a pro-West versus an anti-West competition in Iran, it is a competition to reflect the will of the Iranian people and I think that we have to hold fast to that point."

Offering help to the protesters would be counter-productive, he said.

"The long thesis of the conspiracy of foreign powers against Iran is one that is deeply ingrained in the popular imagination and peddled vociferously by the regime.

"What is very, very important is that we continue to show respect for the Iranian people - that's what President Obama did yesterday - that we continue to insist that it is for them to choose their government."

There was "real discontent" among a wide cross-section of Iranian society and not just in the capital, he said, but it should not be forgotten that Mr Mousavi was "one of the regime's founding figures".

"It would be quite wrong to present this as a clash between on the one hand the hardliner and on the other hand the raging reformer.

"Mr Mousavi is a pragmatic reformer but he is part of the revolutionary generation.

"Our position must be, to be absolutely clear, that internally it is a matter for the Iranians to choose their own government but externally the world needs an Iranian government that is willing to live up to its responsibilities.

"That, of course, is not just something for the president; it is a critical role for the supreme leader (Ayatollah Ali Khamenei) who sets the tone and substance of Iranian international policy."

Prime Minister Gordon Brown today urged Iran to listen to its people's grievances in the wake of the country's election dispute.

Speaking about the situation during a tour of communications firm Arqiva in south east London ahead of today's Digital Britain report launch, Mr Brown said: "The elections are a matter for the Iranian people, but if there are serious questions that are now being asked about the conduct of the elections, they have got to be answered.

"There must be no violence in response to peaceful protests.

"I think Iran has got to listen very carefully, because the relationship they will have and the respect they will have from the rest of the world will depend on how they respond to what are legitimate grievances that are being expressed and have to be answered."

Post a Comment

View all comments that have been posted about this article.

Offensive or abusive comments will be removed and your IP logged and may be used to prevent further submission. In submitting a comment to the site, you agree to be bound by the Independent Minds Terms of Service.

Comments

Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll
[info]alex3321 wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 08:57 am (UTC)
but no -one minds when we take sides on every other issue thats none of our business!!
the british state.....
[info]britfree wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
is already deeply involved in these provocations , in iran the poor dont "tweet" , if they come out today it will be because they feel the revolution is under threat , not because of the british or amerikkkan agents . all the students interviewed yesterday (coincidently ?) had amerikkkan english accents , i dont dispute the depth of feeling in the islamic republic amongst the urban bourgeoisie , the youth of this class feel particularily hard done by . but they do not represent the largely content rural population , whose lives have been transformed by AMJDs government , not even the hariri'ist agent bob fisk , with his transparent anti iranian agenda , could "honestly " claim otherwise , i say , honestly ,bit of an oxymoron where bob fisk is concerned . britfree also has an agenda , undisguised , anti zionist , anti imperialist . i dont wish to see the revolution overturned by a foreign intelligence inspired vocal minority . the freedom loving "students" should be forced to watch the documentary concerning the amerikkkan slaughter in Azizabad , the free world ? free to murder brown people more like ,
[info]londoniranian wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 09:41 am (UTC)
Iranians don't expect the international community to fight their battle for them or intervene. What we expect the world leaders is to not rush into congratulating Ahmadinejad or accepting him as the legitimate president of Iran. Mousavi is not a liberal and he never promised fundamental changes but he gave hope to millions of youth that he would give them more civil freedom within the framework of Islamic regime. Unfortunately even that was not tolerated by hardliners. Accepting this deceit is costly for Iran, for the Middle East and possibly for the world.
Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll but we are same same same same
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 09:41 am (UTC)
Joe I agree it is NOT OUR BUSINESS but our plocies rotten it is says we go with all Tell me what do my stars tell today Tuesday, June 16, 2009
Just after sundown, cries of "death to the dictator" echoed through Tehran as thousands of backers for Ahmadinejad's rival, Mir Hossein Mousavi, heeded a call to bellow from the roofs and balconies. The deeply symbolic act recalled the shouts of "Allahu Akbar," or God is Great, to show opposition to the Western-backed monarchy before the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
Half of Labour members want Tony Blair back.
Obama: Iranian voters' voices should be heard
President Barack Obama said Monday he does not know who rightfully won the Iranian election, but that Iranians have a right to feel their ballots mattered.
With images of bloodied protesters in Tehran's streets recalling the Islamic revolution 30 years ago, Obama said an investigation into alleged vote-rigging should go ahead without additional violence.
"It would be wrong for me to be silent on what we've seen on the television the last few days," Obama told reporters at the White House.
USA wants to get into the cash of Israel.
"And what I would say to those people who put so much hope and energy and optimism into the political process, I would say to them that the world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was," Obama said. "And they should know that the world is watching." AND SO? They may as well stop seeing all the TVs. CRAZY I SAY
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Re: Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll but we are same same same same
[info]rants_a_lot wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 11:06 am (UTC)
Having read lots of your posts I find myself actually understanding one for the first time.
I thank you
Re: Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll but we are same same same same
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 11:38 am (UTC)
I am de lighted plase keep me in touch i thank you 2
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Long live the Iranian people but death to the Islamic Regime
[info]rickraider wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 10:34 am (UTC)
We must show solidarity with the poor Iranian people and support them in whatever way we can. Our cowardly government is yet again appeasing the torturers and murderers of innocents. Shame on Brown and Milliband!
[info]acidaries wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 10:53 am (UTC)
Did Mr Brown listen to legitimate grievances of his own people and step down? And he is preaching to Iran
Only Sort of Democracy in region
[info]rants_a_lot wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 11:09 am (UTC)
At least the Iranian voters got a vote, it may have been an illusion but how many other middle eastern countries have even a semblance of democracy.
By American standards Iran is already free
[info]petestevens wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 11:37 am (UTC)
I am sure that the Americans are pleased that Iran is demonstrating the freedoms that America is known for - rigged elections, social unrest, police opening fire on the public. Who knows but perhaps one day Iran will be elevated to the ultimate freedom possible - Iraqi style freedom - which is characterized by car bombings, checkpoints, nighttime military raids, ect.
Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll
[info]jacquesfrancis wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 12:19 pm (UTC)
I totally agree with Milliband except that I would omit the word 'not'. Other than that he's hit the nail on the head and is a very clever little man.

We are led by an incompetent, conniving man for whom nobody voted, and to whom it has been made absolutely clear that absolutely nobody wants him to remain in office, but he stays on regardless because he knows best. That hardly puts us in a good negotiating position to persuade Ahmadinejad to resign, even if little Milliband wasn't quite so hilariously inappropriate as Foreign Secretary and who will be patted on the head by the Iranians, and everybody else, and told to run along.
Re: Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll
[info]britfree wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 12:30 pm (UTC)
so you think the british state should interfere even more than it already is doing ? snigger....... ,it should send in the navy ! ! that blubbering guy that had his i-pod nicked is probably the best hope you guys have , har har har ! the revolutionary guard would just give them another goody bag and send them home in deliberately dodgy suits . delusions of grandeur still prevelant among the engerlish , i see
What has Obama to gain from the past is the question part 1.
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 12:59 pm (UTC)
What has Obama to gain from the past is the question part 1.
While Obama cannot, cannot watch the blood in the streets of Iran we can watch this. Can we?
Yet an investigation by The Mail on Sunday has revealed that, for all Mr Obama's reputation for straight talking and the compelling narrative of his recollections, they are largely myth. We have discovered that his father was not just a deeply flawed individual but an abusive bigamist and an egomaniac, whose life was ruined not by racism or corruption but his own weaknesses. And, devastatingly, the testimony has come from Mr Obama's own relatives and family friends. Charismatic and with movie-star looks, Barack Obama Jnr has managed to steal some of Hillary Clinton's most influential supporters in the two weeks since he entered the US Presidential race. The 45-year-old lawyer depicts himself as a fresh voice for voters tired of the divisive rhetoric and self-serving ambition of established politicians on each side of the Democrat-Republican divide. His campaign to become the first black President is inspired, he says, by his love of the country that allowed his father to triumph against astonishing odds. Barack Obama Snr started life with the advantage of being able to read and write, but he also felt a profound sense of injustice. His father was a cook for British settlers in Kenya, who demeaningly called him their 'personal boy'.
"And what I would say to those people who put so much hope and energy and optimism into the political process, I would say to them that the world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was," Obama said. "And they should know that the world is watching."
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
What has Obama to gain from the past is the question part 2.
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 01:00 pm (UTC)
Grandfather Obama sent his son to a missionary school but after completing his education, the youth could find little work except goatherding in his remote village of Nyangoma Kogela, in the roadless hills of Western Kenya. At 18, he married a girl called Kezia. But Obama Snr was more interested in politics and economics than his family and his political leanings had been brought to the notice of leaders of the Kenyan Independence movement. He was put forward for an American-sponsored scholarship in economics, with the idea being that he would eventually use his Western-honed skills in the new Kenya. At the age of 23 he headed for university in Hawaii, leaving behind the pregnant Kezia and their baby son. Relatives say he was already a slick womaniser and, once in Honolulu, he promptly persuaded a fellow student called Ann - a naive 18-year-old white girl - to marry him. Barack Jnr was born in August, 1961. Two years later, Obama Snr was on the move again. He was accepted at Harvard, and left his little boy and wife behind when he moved to the exclusive east coast university. At the time, Ann explained to their son that his father had gone because his meagre stipend would not support the family if they lived together. But finance was the least of her worries. Mr Obama Jnr claims that racism on both sides of the family destroyed the marriage between his mother and father. In his book, he says that Ann's mother, who went by the nickname Tut, did not want a black son-in-law, and Obama Snr's father 'didn't want the Obama blood sullied by a white woman'. In fact Ann divorced her husband after she discovered his bigamous double life. She remarried and moved to Indonesia with young Barack and her new husband, an oil company manager. Obama Snr was forced to return to Kenya, where he fathered two more children by Kezia. He was eventually hired as a top civil servant in the fledgling government of Jomo Kenyatta - and married yet again.
"And what I would say to those people who put so much hope and energy and optimism into the political process, I would say to them that the world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was," Obama said. "And they should know that the world is watching."
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla



What has Obama to gain from the past is the question part 3
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 01:04 pm (UTC)
A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
He who postpones the hour of living is like the rustic who waits for the river to run out before he crosses. -Horace, poet and satirist (65-8 BCE)
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
Devil will have more work as we have the ticketcs for hell
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 01:06 pm (UTC)
Horace, poet and satirist (65-8 BCE) THIS is a long long loooonggg time before iii was was bornnn Horace was wise not wice he words we sing rest put in the loo flush dipdidipidpidpidpidip dip they go dipdipdipdi some get stuck Come on Joe we gota go down the bayo
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla

What has Obama to gain from the past is the question part 4
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 01:37 pm (UTC)
Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll it will not may be not she loves me, she loves me not she loves me she love me not
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
[info]had_it wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 02:11 pm (UTC)
It is not Britain's business who Iran picks to lead its pseudo-democratic theocracy. It is a legitimate concern, since we have to deal with the Iranian government, but it is soley the business of the Iranian people.
Every people gets the government they deserve. When Iran has had enough of the Mullahs, they will go the way of the Shahs.
Until then, Britons should talk to every Iranian they know about Iran's situation while Britain's government keeps its mouth tightly shut.
Good Luck
[info]gollymolly44 wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 05:35 pm (UTC)
The parents of todays protesters were on the streets in 1979 and protested with the same high hopes and fervour - and ended up bringing to power a bloody, brutal theocracy. Two cliches come to mind; "Peoples, especially those blinded by religious fervour, get the governments they deserve" and "Be careful what you wish for, you might get it". All the same, best of luck to you. And why can we not post on Fisks latest article - censorship??
famulla
[info]gollymolly44 wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 05:51 pm (UTC)
I love your letters - perhaps if I keep reading them I will also eventually understand them.
Britain 'must not take sides' over Iran poll
[info]pozac wrote:
Tuesday, 16 June 2009 at 10:32 pm (UTC)
QUOTE:""This is not a pro-West versus an anti-West competition in Iran, it is a competition to reflect the will of the Iranian people and I think that we have to hold fast to that point."

Offering help to the protesters would be counter-productive, he said. "

Since when was helping one side and not the other countr-productive?
Only if you see it from the opposite side!

Sounds like a set-up to me.
Taking sides (Telling others who to vote for)
[info]grumvll wrote:
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 03:23 am (UTC)
The Iranian people have the right to vote for whom they please. The rest of the world should mind its own business. The Palestinian people have the right to vote for whom they please AND THEY DID !!
But the rest of the world, including Canada, refused to recognize the expressed will of the Palestinians who elected Hamas, with over 50% of the vote. Canada'a Prime Minister rules Canada with a minority government that was elected with only 35% of the vote. Yet Canada's elected dictator refuses to recgnize the duly elected Palaestiian government. What hypocrisy!! One thing we must admire about Ahmedinejad is that he does not bow to Israel, which is what the US and Canada do. Ariel Sharon was correct when he declared that "We, the Jewish people, tell the Americans what to do, and the Americans know it" The Jewish rulers also control Canada, the UK, Australia, France, Germany, etcetera. BUT, they don't control the Iranians President Ahmadinejad - for which I am grateful.

Most popular in UK News



Article Archive

Day In a Page

Sun | Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat

Select date