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Labour turmoil

Campaign to oust Prime Minister gathers pace

Labour rebels launch coup attempt against Brown on eve of crucial elections. Blears becomes focus of opposition after dramatic resignation from Cabinet

By Andrew Grice, Political Editor

Gordon Brown was clinging on to his job last night as rebel Labour backbenchers threatened to force him out of Downing Street within days.

The Prime Minister suffered a crushing blow when Hazel Blears resigned as Communities Secretary on the eve of local and European elections today that could seal his fate. Ms Blears was incensed by Mr Brown's description of her non-payment of capital gains tax on the sale of two London flats as "totally unacceptable".

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Her timing was devastating, and seen as a deliberate attempt to destabilise Mr Brown and trigger a coup. It was the fourth ministerial exit in 24 hours and the second from the Cabinet.

Mr Brown faces a twin threat: a round-robin email circulating among Labour MPs calling on him to step down in the interests of the party and the nation, and a difficult cabinet reshuffle which could backfire rather than end the chaos engulfing his Government.

Organisers of the "Brown must go" campaign claimed that 80 backbenchers may be ready to sign the email. They intend to go public on Monday if they get at least 50 backers.

Another option being discussed is securing the 70 names needed for a "stalking horse" candidate, possibly a left-winger such as John McDonnell, to stand for the leadership. Such a huge revolt could force Mr Brown to quit without a special conference being called. That would open the way for other cabinet ministers to enter the leadership race. "We will get there, one way or the other," one Labour MP predicted last night. "It's tragic, but Gordon is not up to it. The only way to get out of this mess is to have the leadership contest we needed in 2007 [when Tony Blair resigned] or last year."

There were growing signs that ministers may scupper the smooth reshuffle Mr Brown desperately needs to restore his battered authority. Alistair Darling made clear he will leave the Cabinet if he is ousted as Chancellor, dashing hopes among Brownites that he would succeed the departing Jacqui Smith as Home Secretary.

David Miliband, another possible candidate for the Home Office, wants to remain as Foreign Secretary, while the Health Secretary Alan Johnson, the man most likely to take over if Mr Brown is ousted, is also reluctant to move to the Home Office.

John Reid, the former Home Secretary and a Blairite, turned down the offer of a surprise cabinet comeback in private talks with Mr Brown. The Independent understands that Mr Reid stopped Mr Brown in his tracks before a specific job was mentioned.

There was speculation that Mr Reid was offered a return to the Home Office. Brown aides insisted they had merely talked about football. Mr Reid is chairman of Celtic FC.

Amid a feverish atmosphere at Westminster, there were even remarkable rumours that the Prime Minister would offer a post to Mr Blair. Mr Brown is keen to recruit a Blairite "big beast" to dissuade allies of Mr Blair from joining the revolt against him – as he achieved last October by recalling Lord Mandelson, his long-time foe.

The Business Secretary, who rallied strongly behind Mr Brown yesterday, will be a pivotal figure in the critical 48 hours ahead. Blairite ministers such as James Purnell and John Hutton are likely to seek Lord Mandelson's advice on whether they should stay in the Cabinet. If any of them refused to serve under Mr Brown, it could bring him down. But there was no sign of that yesterday, when several ministers including Mr Johnson rushed to the Prime Minister's defence in a frantic round of media interviews.

Some backbenchers and ministers will make a final decision on whether to back or try to sack Mr Brown after the council results emerge tomorrow and the European Parliament results are announced on Sunday night.

One cabinet minister said: "If we come fourth behind Ukip in the Euro elections, that could be the trigger."

Mr Brown and his advisers will decide today whether to bring forward the reshuffle from Monday to tomorrow in an attempt to end the disarray sparked by the departures of Ms Smith and Ms Blears.

Allies insisted Mr Brown would not be pushed out and were relieved that he was not outgunned by David Cameron at Prime Minister's Questions. They dismissed the idea that ministers were threatening to scupper the reshuffle, saying that manoeuvring for jobs always happens before such a shake-up.

Brown allies warned rebel backbenchers that installing a new leader would make the growing demands for an early general election unstoppable, and pointed out that many of his Labour critics would lose their seats.

Barry Sheerman, a normally loyal senior Labour backbencher, said: "If the Prime Minister doesn't realise that, across the party, there is a disillusionment with the way the parliamentary party has been consulted, treated and valued, he is heading for trouble."

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Champagne at the ready
[info]blu_rogers wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 11:54 pm (UTC)
I will certainly celebrate the departure of this dreadful man from government.

However, the 12 years of his disastrous policies will take a lot of undoing.
Three decades of subversion by Blatcherism, the rotting remains of which are being shaken out
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 04:18 am (UTC)
of government.
The Brown / Balls axis demonstrated its strength yesterday as a (claimed) reforming force by shaking some pieces of the rotting remains of quisling Blatcherism out of the top branches of government. There is renewed hope that either a Cromwell or people's resort to the BNP as a means of giving Britain a measure of protection from more of the pseudu-democratic circus, will be rendered unnecessary. However, that reforming force, if real : a) can be kept on its toes; b) can be given weaponry with which to deal with the rotting remains of blatcherism in government (and fend off the gang of spivs in the wings led by a slippery toff Blair lookalike) by protest votes for the BNP. In other words an effective protest vote is a vote for your enemy's most feared enemy. If the circus prevents you from voting BNP, then utter the vote of a conscientious abstainer.
http://news.independentminds.livejournal.com/2667979.html?thread=13974987#t13974987
General Election NOT New Prime Minister - [info]mike4626 - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:37 am (UTC) Expand
Re: General Election NOT - [info]cronyblatcher - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:02 am (UTC) Expand
Re: General Election NOT - [info]longon007 - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 10:52 am (UTC) Expand
Re: General Election NOT - [info]shakras - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:28 am (UTC) Expand
Re: General Election NOT - [info]almightymat - Friday, 5 June 2009 at 10:42 am (UTC) Expand
Re: General Election NOT New Prime Minister - [info]alf001 - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:07 am (UTC) Expand
[info]buddyswift wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 12:35 am (UTC)
It seems strange to me that the British population seem so driven to discard our national leaders like some used tissue. They clean up some stuff for us, but soon enough we do away with them and look for another.

I really don't know who in the labour party would do a better job. At least keep someone with a little experience of things going wrong (albeit if they were arguably his fault).
[info]themartindale wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:30 am (UTC)
INARGUABLY his fault
(no subject) - [info]longon007 - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 10:59 am (UTC) Expand
Hello! Expenses! Remember? - [info]john_b_ellis - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:29 pm (UTC) Expand
Disgraceful
[info]nled63 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 01:09 am (UTC)

What a tawdry, disgraceful spectacle. An obdurate duffer of a prime minister, his credibility more than spent, squats like a disabled donkey whilst the hungry wolves encircle his hapless carcass. Resignations aplenty. Some simply wish to jump off the sinking ship. Some, like Blears, use the quit as a weapon, a redactive stab in the back. One has, if not sympathy (for who could sympathise with this tatty bunch of frauds & pretenders) then at least a measure of allowance for Blears' reposte. To single out Blears' transgressions as "totally unacceptable" at a time when it would appear that "acceptable behaviour" has never been in shorter supply among ministers is tantamount to pulling up a ship's officer for being "improperly dressed on deck" amidst the chaos of a sinking.

At every turn, even the last, Gordon Clown manages to get it wrong. Never, never again must a minister be allowed to assume prime ministership unelected.
Re: Disgraceful
[info]longon007 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:12 am (UTC)


Mandelson is the one exeption, he joined this stinking- sorry, Freudian slip- ship. But he did get in to the House of Lords, didn't he look pleased when covered in ermine...
Re: Disgraceful - [info]trojan_horace - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:47 pm (UTC) Expand
Deservedly So...
[info]thisanthat wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 02:35 am (UTC)
Brown has earned ever morsel of contempt that is bestowed upon him. He above all other contemptibles has done most to bring this country to it's knees.
However he was not alone and those who now seek to make him the scapegoat, portray hypocrisy at its best.
The contemptibles are the rotting remains of Blatcherism being shaken out of the top of the tree
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 04:13 am (UTC)
If the Brown / Balls reforming axis is again submerged then people should resort to national socialism as the only available force (in the abence of a Cromwell) capable of protecting Britain from more of the same harm inflicted by three decades of governmet by quislings.
http://news.independentminds.livejournal.com/2667979.html?thread=13974987#t13974987
Re: Deservedly So... - [info]alf001 - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:05 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Deservedly So... - [info]alf001 - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:07 am (UTC) Expand
Boll.x
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 04:08 am (UTC)
The Brown / Balls axis demonstrated its strength as a (claimed) reforming force by shaking some pieces of the rotting remains of quisling Blatcherism out of the top branches of government. There is renewed hope that either a Cromwell or people's resort to the BNP as a means of giving Britain a measure of protection from more of the pseudu-democratic circus, will be rendered unnecessary. However, that reforming force, if real : a) can be kept on its toes; b) can be given weaponry with which to deal with the rotting remains of blatcherism in government (and fend off the gang of spivs in the wings led by a slippery toff Blair lookalike) by protest votes for the BNP. In other words an effective protest vote is a vote for your enemy's most feared enemy. If the circus prevents you from voting BNP, then utter the vote of a conscientious abstainer.
http://news.independentminds.livejournal.com/2667979.html?thread=13974987#t13974987
Re: Boll.x
[info]almightymat wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 10:55 am (UTC)

"Everybody vote for the BNP to help Brown's position as prime minister"?

Your sillines STILL doesn't make any sense, old chap...

if you're a BNP supporter why not just come out and say it, rather than extending this dubious waffle as a reason/excuse to vote BNP?

X
Re: Boll.x - [info]shakras - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:34 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]cronyblatcher - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:44 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 12:35 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 12:42 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]shakras - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 01:43 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 03:06 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]shakras - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 03:18 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 03:22 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]shakras - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:12 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]cronyblatcher - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:21 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]shakras - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:46 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]cronyblatcher - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 09:11 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Boll.x - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:37 pm (UTC) Expand
'DANCING IN THE STREETS'
[info]bgarvie wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 04:59 am (UTC)
Not long to wait for the Labour rebels to wield their policital axe at the thick but weak neck of the PM. There will be 'dancing in the streets' if they rid our country of the most hated and dysfunctional PM in history.
Re: 'DANCING IN THE STREETS'
[info]john_b_ellis wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:33 pm (UTC)
Oh, I danced more when Blair went ... this is just a sideshow in the rejoicing stakes ...
What alternative?
[info]sjkillman wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 05:32 am (UTC)
Why is it a crushing blow for Hazel Blears to resign - she milked the 'expenses' system and along with others including Cameron who maximised his mortgage and got the taxper to pay for the removal of his wysteria. Who told the media that Gordon Brown wanted John Reid back or that Allistair Darling would leave the cabinet if reshuffled - certainly not the man himself. The voters will register a protest vote, or vote for a local issue to give the whole lot a clear message of disgust, but it will be different at a General Election.

I have noticed a lot of younger commentators gunning for Brown - clearly they have only read about past Tory Governments in theory, not in practice. It must be difficult for them to comprehend the multitude of dreadful policy decisions made by the Tories in past Governments - we know, we lived through them. Can anyone who slates off Gordon Brown, tell me what the Tory policies are on the economy, health, education and Home affairs that will make life better - please dont repeat the shortcomings of the current lot. Labour has made mistakes but nothing on the scale of past Tory Governments.
Re: What alternative?
[info]shakras wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 05:49 am (UTC)
Indeed and as far as Blears, Smith and Hughes are concerned good riddance to greedy brainless disreputations of women - who according to reports have launched a dirty 'wimmin against Brown' (and women) campaign
Re: What alternative? - [info]cronyblatcher - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:22 am (UTC) Expand
to save the necks of the warmongerers?
[info]leonard_merryl wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 05:46 am (UTC)
The neck of the Dear Leader isn't enough.

Britain needs rid of his warmongering crony vermin, who must be banned from holding public office in future:

Jack Strawman
Hazel Bleeurgh
Lord Scrote of Foy
Geoff Goon
Two-Jags Lardarse Prescott
Rabid Minibrain the American Viceroy
Des Brownnoser

And the dismissal of Sir John Harlot, Unintelligence Chief.
Re: to save the necks of the warmongerers?
[info]shakras wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 05:53 am (UTC)
and little wimmin Hughes, Blears and Smith - with Harman and the minister for money laundering thrown in for good measure - who have today launched a 'wimmin against Brown' (and self-respecting women) campaign
Re: to save the necks of the warmongerers? - [info]leonard_merryl - Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:39 am (UTC) Expand
Nu-Labour Leadership
[info]ironspiderzero wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 05:54 am (UTC)
There should have been a leadership election when Blair stepped-down - we didn't vote for Gordon Brown and I, personally, don't think he's ever been up to the task.
Re: Nu-Labour Leadership
[info]longon007 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:05 am (UTC)


That point has been made many times but it doesn't seem to register. You are right, he never did have a mandate from the punters, he was merely anointed.
How are the mighty fallen
[info]rhinocircus wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:00 am (UTC)
What a pathetic picture is being portrayed by the ravishing now, of "prudent" Brown.

The erstwhile aquiescent animals are turning on the planted Prime Minister and the sinister political drama is turning into a sad knockabout farce.

Another tragedy of these Machiavellian times, is that a few months on, these ugly scenes and shabby players will recover--like waters over a sinking stone--and the whole rotten play will resume with promises of greater transparency and honesty.

While this deceitful and dangerous lot of frauds are so desperately discredited, it would be wise for the British people to demand, that they dismantle all the repressive surveillance machinery and policies, which are future chains on public liberties.

More accountability must be wrung from the Chiefs of the Metropolitan Police--no more American-style, zero-tolerance Stockwell killings and cover-ups. Also investigate why after 7/7, no film was (allegedly) installed in several cameras, which could have proved Police culpability beyond any doubt.

This shabby end of undemocratic, Parliamentary arrogance, must initiate new zeal and commitment from the British People, if generations to come are not turned into craven automata.

"ravishing"/ by birdbrained Smith and Blears?
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:24 am (UTC)
They are just bits of the rotting remains of Blatcherism being shaken out of the tree, hopelfully by what will trun out to be a needed Cromwellian reformation force
POLITICAL RULE IN THE UK
[info]intrepid001 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:20 am (UTC)
Mandelson tells us that it would be unwise to vote to remove Gordon Brown as PM. Looking at the front bench of the Government there is no one but no one who might deal with the political (MPs expenses and greed), economic (we are sinking down the pan) and social (10 million economically inactive and still we have tens of thousands of immigrants coming here each month) problems of this nation. However, the mere fact that Mandelson has spoken means, for me at least, that I must ignore anything he has to say because I would not trust him as far as I could throw him.
He just doesn't get it - go Brown now!
[info]oszkowice wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:46 am (UTC)
His abilities and intellect, are far outweighed by his ego. He has an unstoppable belief, that he can turn this around, whereas what he is about to do, is go down in history alon,gside Bliar and his mentor Thatcher as amongst the worst PM Britain has ever seen.
please go now like Mohamed Ali , while the going is good, or you never know what tomorrow will bring
[info]famulla wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 06:51 am (UTC)
EVEN IN lottery, you have a chance but with the 10 Downing Street now I see no chance. Marrying the Minister is a slow death, and the pilferages for the porno are bad for teeth and kids. Where are the options?
I love my kids to grow good, please go now like Mohamed Ali , while the going is good, or you never know what tomorrow will bring May be Police.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Re: please go now like Mohamed Ali , while the going is good, or you never know what tomorrow will b
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:09 am (UTC)
You shut up and ask your minders for a body language interpreter .
http://geocities.com/cronyblatcher/institutionalisation.htm
[info]cm999 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:31 am (UTC)
All this hot is great for column inches but is a big concern. All it is doing is distracting politicians from actually reforming their expenses and the political system. A general election is needed but not til after the reform is done. If we have a new leader or election that will be the focus not the much needed reform.
looking for friends
[info]suarbaby2009 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:38 am (UTC)

--==* Sugarbabymeet.C'om *==-- It's where Sugarbaby (women who are mature, rich and experienced) and men who like them can meet.
looking for friends
[info]suarbaby2009 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:44 am (UTC)
-==* Sugarbabymeet.C'om *==-- It's where Sugarbaby (women who are mature, rich and experienced) and men who like them can meet.
[info]democraticact wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:47 am (UTC)
Who and what is to blame ? Margaret Thatcher's privatisation scam came with the cronyism of the "revolving door". Taxpayers financed her ideological battle with the trade unions. And she was returned to power. Tony Blair made good Thatcher's political apartheid and left his would be supporters, without representation. He went to war with lies and the overwhelming consent of Parliament. And he was returned to power. This outburst says more about our political naivety or bad conscience than it does about this petty scandal. Go to; democraticbritain.org.uk - and take the first step to democratic maturity.
"says more about our political naivety"
[info]shakras wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:42 am (UTC)
But more about how the population's perceptions of reality are skillfully engineered.
How do accomplaish "democratic maturity" while there is institutionalised obstruction and a wall of mass media disinformation ranged against it?
I fear he might survive, for a while at least.
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:47 am (UTC)
I have a nasty feeling that the Scots madman will survive this crisis, for a while at least. Blears expected that her going would trigger other ministers to do the same thing. In fact there were rumours yesterday that Caroline Flint would follow, but this has not happened.

If Brown gives in and allows Miliband, Darling and Johnson to remain in post after the reshuffle then he will buy himself a little time at least. He obviously offered Reid the Home Office and sensibly he refused. Watch out for Blunkett hanging round number ten.

As to the backbencher's campaign; this could go either way. So I still worry that we will have to put up with the megalomaniac for some time yet.
Re: I fear he might survive, for a while at least.
[info]leonard_merryl wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:09 am (UTC)
The idea of that tartan tyrant Reid at the Home Office is too frightening to contemplate. Jocko Reid is a Nazi madman who should be prevented from holding public office for the rest of his life.
Is it 'cos he is Scottish???
[info]oriordap wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:54 am (UTC)
Why is the pressure so great on Gordon Brown to resign? From what i can see the tories were fiddling the expense books also (it's just that there isn't as many tory MP's so it's not on the same scale).
I think there is something altogether more seedy going on here. From living in England for a few years i am aware of how the english are an inherently racist nation of people. You all hate the French or Germans or Irish or indians or pakistanis (don't worry, i think it is a mutual thing). The english hate the Welsh and Scottish. Northerners hate southerners. Mancunians hate liverpudlians etc. etc.. Why Gordon Brown has never been as popular as your chinless wonder Blair is simple, he is Scottish and deep down you english just cannot stomach being ruled by someone from your northern colony.
Re: Is it 'cos he is Scottish???
[info]john_b_ellis wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 07:44 pm (UTC)
Nothing to do with him being Scottish, for me. Not even primarily him .. I find Hoon, Straw and Blears more odious than Brown, and Blears comes from my backyard ...

It's the whole New Labour thing. Above all, it's Blair ... but hang on, wasn't he Scottish, at least by family? And I loathed Reid ... But it's just coincidence, I swear ... I liked Kinnock, whose family must have been Scots, given the name, even though he grew up in the Welsh valleys. And I'm an Alex Salmond and Charles Kennedy fan. No tarten phobia, honest ... don't get paranoid!
Ended before it's begun
[info]twellian057 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 08:57 am (UTC)
...not with a bang, but with a whimper.
It's the revolution that never was; no electoral reform will come of this unbelievable mess. When Cameron takes over, we might see a few sops to the masses over expenses but it will still be a case of same old, same old. First past the post will survive.

Dear Prudence Brown,
You may have stood a chance right at the beginning, but you blew it. Goodbye and good riddance.

Lord of the Darkness
[info]billylad wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 09:42 am (UTC)
As surely as there are dark clouds in a stormy sky, Mandelson is slithering into place to grab the top job.
What Alternative ?
[info]chipmem1 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 10:57 am (UTC)

People that have been discredited, surely have no future.

If these women see themselves as an alternative, then
help us all.

70 signatures on the side of corruption, who wants to vote for that ?
Take Heed!
[info]neil639 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 11:40 am (UTC)
Brown appears to be taking the line that he is somehow indispensible, both to the Labour Party and the country. If so he should heed the words of General Charles de Gaulle who once said about those who thought that without them nothing would function, "The cemeteries are full of indispensible people."
Campaign to oust Prime Minister gathers pace
[info]revelstoke wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 12:37 pm (UTC)
Mandelson backing GB ,oh dear.Only because GB gave Mandelson a job as well as making him a lord.
New Labour. Ship wreck
[info]thirdman01 wrote:
Thursday, 4 June 2009 at 01:13 pm (UTC)
Let us face it. Not only Brown but the whole Cabinet need to go,
The whole New Labour ship is a wreck.

However, I see no New Labour person capable of being a PM

Miliband wanted a private jet to tour the world with in his Foreign Secretary role and he has gardening expense bills to answer.
John Reid appears another obsessive and better he is not in the Cabinet,

Brown and Mandelson could survive in the Bunker against a Labour revolt? Most will tow the party line.

It does not matter what New Labour do. They face annihilation.

I expect in the coming months we will see New Labour MPs jumping ship to other parties so they can increase survival chances?
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