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Disarray in Downing Street

Brown struggles to regain his authority after Government hit by spate of surprise resignations

By Andrew Grice, Political Editor

Gordon Brown, in the midst of an unfolding crisis

REUTERS

Gordon Brown, in the midst of an unfolding crisis

Gordon Brown was struggling to regain his authority last night as a planned cabinet reshuffle designed to launch a political fightback was wrecked by a spate of Labour resignations.

On a day of chaos in government circles, Jacqui Smith's aides confirmed she would stand down as Home Secretary at the reshuffle, expected soon after local and European elections tomorrow in which Labour fears a meltdown.

Last night, Labour backbenchers told The Independent that the "complete disarray" in the Government had increased the prospects of an attempt to oust Mr Brown after this week's elections.

Ms Smith told the Prime Minister at Easter she wanted to quit to protect her family, soon after becoming the first victim of the leaking of the details of MPs' expenses claims. She came under fire for listing her sister's London property as her main home and claiming "second homes" allowances on her family home in her Redditch constituency, including a claim for two adult films submitted by her husband.

Ms Smith is not the only MP heading for the departure lounge. Tom Watson, a Cabinet Office minister and member of the Brown inner circle, surprised Labour MPs by announcing he would leave the Government.

Beverley Hughes, the Children's minister, and Patricia Hewitt, the former health secretary, said they would quit Parliament at the general election. So did David Chaytor, a Labour backbencher who claimed £13,000 in expenses for a mortgage he had paid off. More than 40 Labour MPs have now disclosed they will stand down, reflecting the widespread resignation in the party that it is heading for an inevitable defeat.

Four Labour MPs caught up in the expenses scandal have been formally barred from standing for the party at the next general election by an internal panel. Ian Gibson, MP for Norwich North, became the first victim of the scandals after being banned from being a Labour candidate. Three of the four had already announced they would stand down and so have not been expelled from the party by Labour's "star chamber" or had the whip removed.

The Home Secretary's pre-emptive strike led to opposition claims that Mr Brown had a "lame duck" Cabinet. The expenses scandal has put a big question mark over Alistair Darling's hopes of remaining as Chancellor, after he repaid almost £700 of allowances wrongly claimed for his London flat. Two other cabinet ministers – Geoff Hoon and Hazel Blears – have repaid money after revelations about their expenses.

There is deep frustration among Brown allies that yesterday's shambles may further harm Labour's prospects in tomorrow's elections. If the results turn into a Labour rout, backbenchers will try to enlist cabinet ministers for a campaign to force Mr Brown to stand down before the general election.

Last night, senior Labour figures warned that the prospect of a move against Mr Brown was becoming more likely every day. "There is a growing feeling that we have nothing to lose," said one former cabinet minister. "It now feels more likely than last year," when a campaign to oust the Prime Minister fizzled out.

Even if they fail to win cabinet-level support, MPs predict an uncoordinated outbreak of backbench "disorder" and "chaos" that could bring Mr Brown down. He is receiving conflicting advice ahead of a reshuffle that could prove critical to efforts to hold on to his post.

His critics warned he would provoke a civil war if he promotes his long-time ally Ed Balls to Chancellor. "If he wants to trigger a leadership crisis, that is the way to do it," one said. Brownites accused Blairites of talking up the prospects of Mr Balls becoming Chancellor in the hope of heading off the move. Some close advisers are urging Mr Brown to use the reshuffle to "clear out" some big names embroiled in the expenses controversy. "The public want blood," one minister said. But others said he could not allow the row to dictate the reshuffle. Yesterday, Mr Brown said he would make the changes that are "right for the country".

Some MPs urged Mr Brown to speed up the reshuffle. But he is due to attend the D-Day memorial events in Normandy at the weekend, so it is most likely to be take place next Monday.

The Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru added to the pressure on Mr Brown by tabling a Commons motion for debate next week calling for an immediate general election.

William Hague, the shadow Foreign Secretary, said the Government seemed to be in a state of collapse. "They have lost the authority and unity and confidence to actually govern the country," he said. But David Cameron admitted that the expenses scandal was harming the Tories too.

A ComRes poll today on voting intentions for the European elections puts the Tories on 24 per cent, Labour on 22 per cent, Ukip 17 per cent, the Greens 15 per cent and the Liberal Democrats on 14 per cent. The survey, commissioned by the Greens, suggests the Tories would lose eight seats in the European Parliament, Labour two, the Liberal Democrats four and Ukip one, while the Greens would gain nine seats.

ON THE UP?

Ed Miliband

The Climate Change Secretary has nothing to fear from the reshuffle. He is a trusted friend of Gordon Brown, has relatively few enemies and has emerged squeaky clean from the expenses row. There is an outside chance that he could be the next Chancellor.

Alan Johnson

As Gordon Brown's most likely successor, the Health Secretary has to tread carefully. If he accepts a new job, it could be taken as a sign he has acknowledged the PM is there for the medium term. He can argue that he needs to stay to deal with swine flu.

Ed Balls

Balls has always wanted to be Chancellor. Brown would like to promote him, setting him up to be the next Labour PM. But he has many enemies. What happens here will show how strong Brown feels his position is.

Yvette Cooper

The Treasury Chief Secretary will have to move if her husband Ed Balls takes over at No 11, and even if he does not, she can expect to take charge of a government department for the first time, not least because Jacqui Smith's exit makes it necessary to promote a woman.

Caroline Flint

As minister for Europe, Flint holds one of the most important jobs outside the Cabinet. Her time for cabinet rank has probably come, especially if Hazel Blears is dropped. Her expenses claims for her London flat have been criticised, but are not bad enough to be career destroying.

Jack Straw

The oldest and most experienced cabinet minister. He is not in line for promotion, but if there is to be a delegation of cabinet ministers to tell Brown he has to resign, it will not carry much weight without Straw.

James Purnell

The Work and Pensions Secretary is seen by Blairites as a possible Labour leader. A promotion would be a good way to placate them. He did not pay capital gains tax when he sold his London flat but says he would not have been liable for it even if he had not been an MP.

Peter Mandelson

Labour MPs are predicting that the Business Secretary will achieve his life's ambition to be Foreign Secretary this time, but it is unlikely that Brown will want him travelling the world when there is an election imminent and his strategic political brain is needed at home.

Vince Cable

One wild rumour is that Brown will bring in Cable as his Chancellor, paving the way for a coalition government if Labour loses the next election. But Brown will not make the offer and Cable would not accept if he did.

ON THE SLIDE?

David Miliband

A year ago the Foreign Secretary looked as if he was about to take over from a weakened Gordon Brown but, having fluffed his chance, he is now likely to stay where he is. If the Home Secretary and Chancellor are moved, that is quite enough change at the top end of the Cabinet.

Alistair Darling

The Chancellor is one of Gordon Brown's oldest friends who got where he is by handling difficult briefs without any bad headlines. But that talent deserted him during the expenses row. Visiting Swindon yesterday he did not sound like a man whose career is over so maybe another cabinet job awaits.

Hazel Blears

Until recently the Communities Secretary had a promising future as a leading Blairite moderniser. Then she made fun of Gordon Brown's YouTube appearance and, worse still, was exposed for having avoided capital gains tax when she sold her home. Paying back the money is not likely to save her.

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WOW! We really are spoilt for choice with all this "Labour Talent" LOL
[info]silenthunter2 wrote:
Tuesday, 2 June 2009 at 11:22 pm (UTC)
Let's just get rid of these criminally corrupt politicians - GENERAL ELECTION NOW !
Re: WOW! We really are spoilt for choice with all this "Labour Talent" LOL
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:27 am (UTC)
Athough a sever critic over being led by the nose organised economic crime, I hold the view that in the absence of a Cromwell, the Brown/Balls axis is the only hope of any reforms at all.
I also hold the view that due to the anti-democratoc nature of the pseudo-democratic circus, the most valuable and tactically effective protest vote at this time is a protest vote for BNP
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
Mr Brown Is NOT A LEADER - [info]mike4626 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:55 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Mr Brown Is NOT A LEADER - [info]cronyblatcher - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 08:27 am (UTC) Expand
So begins the final death plunge of the Titanic.
[info]dave1234567890 wrote:
Tuesday, 2 June 2009 at 11:34 pm (UTC)
Captain Brown is still on the bridge as his party takes its final plunge to oblivion. He may try to rearrange the deckchairs and a few more rats may jump ship, but the result will be the same. I would be very surprised if the electorate ever trust Labour in power again, after this debacle, in fact the third party in British politics maybe their future. .
No to Mandelson as Foreign Secretary
[info]lizzie044 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 01:02 am (UTC)

It is totally unacceptable to me to have Mandelson representing our country as Foreign Secretary. He has proved TWICE that he is deceptive and has broken the law when lying on his mortgage application - of course the law of the land doesn't apply to those in government! Gordon and Co. may feel this is unimportant, but to me and many members of the public it's extremely important.

I can't help feeling that Mandelson is fueling the 'Balls replacing Darling' issue, to deflect from him becoming Foreign Secretary on the quiet.

Almost the entire Cabinet; Darling, D.Miliband, Hoon, Purnell, McNullty, Blears, Smith, Mandelson are an UTTER DISGRACE!
Be careful what you wish for Gordon Brown!
[info]mannygoldstein wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 03:21 am (UTC)
Gordon Brown schemed and plotted throughout his whole career seeking power purely for the sake of it. He has no views, goals or vision to offer, no drive or desire to serve the public or help the more vulnerable members of society.

For a decade he held the great office of Chancellor in a government with a massive electoral majority. He inherited public finances that were in good order and increased government revenues by a series of stealth taxes. For most of this time the world economy grew steadily, as did the UK economy.

Despite the fortuitous events, Gordon Brown managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by introducing a series of policies and promoting individuals that lead to complete disaster.

As Chancellor he destroyed the private pension system by taxing income to the schemes, sold off the countries gold reserves at a low point, introduced 'Tripartite' financial services regulation that allowed the worst banking crisis in over a century, created massive government debt that will take a generation of high tax to repay, and allowed the Labour Party to become bankrupt.

More children are raised in poverty in 2009 than in 1997, income differentials are at their widest ever, and the tax burden on the lowest paid has increased.

He has used his political skills to bully, smear and intimidate his fellow Labour Party colleagues so that none dared even stand against him in a leadership election. He has used MacBride and company to destroy any possibility of harmony within the party, whose unity has been shattered.

What a legacy, he achieved his dream of becoming Prime Minister at the cost of his party, the government and the country. He will be remembered with contempt and disgust, a coward, one of the worst politicians in UK political history, a power-hungry hypocrite who disgraced the Labour Party, harmed the poorest and weakest members of society and failed those who placed their trust in him.

Can anyone name a single successful policy that can be attributed to Gordon Brown?
Re: Be careful what you wish for Gordon Brown!
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:41 am (UTC)
Can anyone name a single alternative to the Brown/Balls axis (warts and all) as a possibly reforming force in the ongoing absence of a Cromwell?
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
Re: Be careful what you wish for Gordon Brown! - [info]mike_spain - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:11 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Be careful what you wish for Gordon Brown! - [info]voodoojedizin - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 01:22 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Be careful what you wish for Gordon Brown! - [info]mike_spain - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 04:08 pm (UTC) Expand
pot kettle - [info]cronyblatcher - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 01:31 pm (UTC) Expand
they are all finished
[info]zanulabour wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 04:21 am (UTC)
Just get them out ,the sooner the better,vote independent you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: they are all finished - not, thetre's a fresh crew waiting in thje wings, unless
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:52 am (UTC)
you vote for your enemy's enemy. Who is your enemy's enemy? Look at who is the current target of the snarling dregs of thirty years of ruling Blatcherism. How to intelligently strengthen that enemy's enemy in the circumstances? Vote BNP
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
Has anyone seen Pa Broon?
[info]oszkowice wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 04:53 am (UTC)
Purnell as Labour leader? Then Nu Labour will have completed its transformation into the Tory Party as Bliar and hos cronies wanted all the time. So can someone remind me who elected Mandelsohn? Just where is Gordon Brown hiding? Getting more and more like Big Brother every day. He probably doesnt even exist.
Last days of Stalin
[info]rickraider wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 05:07 am (UTC)
The Commu/Socialists are finally turning on their autocratic leader, as the ship sinks and their nasty ideology is seen by the people for what it is revolution is in the air. We British may not storm the Winter Palace but in adversity we become strong again. These are adverse times our liberties have been abused, our economy bankrupted, our NHS a mess and our education results are the mere fiction of the Commu/Socialist propaganda machine. Our country has been invaded by stealth and the publics's anger muted by the accusations of racism from the Commu/Socialists Political Commisars. PC was used as a stick to beat the unruly peasants whilst wholesale discrimination was used against the British population. Our beautiful island has been filled with some ugly people because the Commu/Socialists did no checks but just waved in as many boat loads of immigrants in before the British people finally found their voice to speak out against the PC order. 1984 came for us in 1997, and the past 12 years are the wasted years it will take more than 12 years to repair the damage to us and our country. Finally with the last days of Stalin we see light and hope again. The Revolution will come at the ballot boxes across our land on Thursday, and then we can begin the healing process.
Re: Last days of Blatcherism
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:06 am (UTC)
Ppl are no longer gullible enough to believe a spoonfed misrepresntation to the effect that dysfunctional government began during the WondrTone phase of quisling Blatcherist government as an enemy of the State and of the people.
Vote BNP to support your enemy's enemy
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
THE DOWNING STREET FARCE:
[info]bgarvie wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 05:25 am (UTC)
The sooner this dysfunctional Government resigns the better because the country is in need of good governance. The tragic drama being played out in Downing Street seems to have consumed our so called Government and they have forgotten to run the country. They have lost all moral authority and must resign. This Cabinet resembles the old Eastern Bloc nomenklatura losing their jobs as others duck and dive for position.
With moral authority gone, the sooner this farce of political gymnastics is over the better.
Balls does at least have a big brain unlike the Blatcherist vermin who surround Brown
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:21 am (UTC)
If you want : a) to utter an *effective* protest vote; b) to strengthen what is possibly a reforming Brown/Balls axis force at the top of the tree; then vote BNP - and you'll have the pleasure of watching snouts and "gentlemen" sweat, in addition to giving strength to the Brown/Balls possibly reforming axis, in the face of a coordinated snarling crescendo from the stinking dregs of 30 years of Blatcherism in government.
Otherwise, if like me you are denied that opportunity, abstain from the pseudo-democratic circus.
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
Re: Balls does at least have a big brain unlike the Blatcherist vermin who surround Brown
[info]almightymat wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 01:07 pm (UTC)

Hahahaha, you said it AGAIN, hilarious!
'if there's a delegation of ministers to tell Brown to resign, it wion't carry weight without Straw'
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:38 am (UTC)
who as 'Justice' ministry boss claimed his council tax twice, with impunity like Smith and for the same reason - after presiding over ongoing non implementation of fraudulently ratifed UNCRC and refusal to ratify Protocol 12, because... wait for it... we are governed and judged by jolly good chaps and therefore don't need the protection from the State (and judges discovered by a police hushed up raid to have wads of cash stashed in safe deposit boxes) that is enjoyed by other citizens of the Union.
If you want to utter an *effective* protest vote place it with BNP, if you can. It will not only give you the harmless pleasure of watching snouts sweat, but it may also strengthen the hand of reformers at the top of the tree and half a cake is better than more of the same - otherwise abstain from the pseudo-democratic circus
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
Overhaul
[info]barncactus wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:43 am (UTC)
Once this is all over and the talent-free Cabinet has returned whence it came, can we include in the inevitable changes a complete overhaul of the seats at Westminster, eliminating the loading that has favoured the Scots and Welsh for decades? And while we are about it, please can we set a rule that no Scottish or Welsh MP at Westminster can vote on any exclusively English matter? Blair made a terrible mess of devolution and it's time to rebalance the system. Constituencies based on population only. And scrap the ridiculous Barnet formula!
PEOPLES POWER NOT ANY POLITICAL POWER .JOIN...
[info]mbrieo wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:01 am (UTC)
Lets wake up ...the existing parties have all signed up to the new world order, see the links. This is true. If we the people do not unite and form our own independent peoples power, we will all be micro chipped and act as zoombies. Have you observed how people are less intelligent. This is through your water, your food, media and much more. We must unite to remain sane. Please respond and I will post the central solution site, where each and every one can participate. Thank you for reading this.
DO NOT VOTE TOMORROW. We must not be part of the EU.

All parties have signed the new world order.
This unfortunately includes the green party.
None of them understand the true implications.

See these links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RYyLUXuNX8&feature=related
Secret world war 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94jq7_uXFyY
reverse psychology
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=82580.msg471061#msg471061
brain plugging you for a different continent

00 electrodes were fired into my nervous system to link my nervous system to computer and onto the internet. I was able to control from my brain signals a robot hand on a different continent. Clearly that's useful for somebody who's had their hand amputated; to have a hand like this that they control directly from their brain.
The next step clearly has to be some form of implant, some form of connection so that the technology is implanted.

"parties"? - what a nice jolly euphemism
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:09 am (UTC)
for self-serving organised political gangs.
Vote BNP to support your enemy's enemy, otherwise abstain from the pseudo-democratic circus
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
Another Labour leader ?
[info]dunque123 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:36 am (UTC)
Whilst one leadership transition was comparable to Thatcher-Major, surely a third leader within one Pariliament would be unacceptable and would have to be followed by an early election.

Mind you, I see they are ramping up the Swine Flu pandemic scam so maybe an opportunity for a state of emergency, suspension of liberties etc
Be careful what you wish for
[info]andrea_2 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:39 am (UTC)
Is a saying that so aptly applies to the Brown debacle. I was no great fan of Tony Blair but there is no denying that he was bullied out of office by Gordon Brown. Whose only wish was for power itself. Well now you have it, Gordon. How does it feel?
Re: Be careful what you wish for
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 08:32 am (UTC)
WonderTone wasn't "bullied" by anyone dear, his personal pension was nicely fattened, Britain's bananarepiublicanisation was complete, and he had his eye on two jobs : nominated head of the UN and nominated Union President
To utter an intelligent protest vote,vote BNP.
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
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Labour shambles, Tory misadventure; who's left?
[info]itsthefeds wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:50 am (UTC)
While the government looks to be about to issue its death rattle, I do not know that there is anyone else better on offer. Osborne et alii look very shakey and I don't want to entrust a fragile economy to him; Cameron is an educated spiv. Hague seems about the best of them, but not sure how cnetral a role he will play domestically. Cable looks good, but otherwise the Lib-dems look like they have swapped the socks and sandals for shirts and ties but are not much more electabel for all that. As for the others, they are barking mad mainly and worrying, particularly as Labour has sacrificed our civil liberties on the altar of Blair's vicarious persecution complex. But at least their ranks are not swelled by Westminster timeservers whose lack of an outside perspective has no doubt led many to believe, wrongly, that they are untouchable and propogate legitimised theft through the expense system. The lack of moral compass of a sizable rump of MPs from all parties is unforgiveable.

Seems to me the only vote worth posting would be to go Green to force that item up the agenda of the main parties when they finally osrt themselves out and promote non-politicos to the job of government and opposition.
Ask Brown about his own expenses.
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:56 am (UTC)
"The public want blood" one minister said. Yes we certainly do, and the pig we wish to stick most is Brown. Together with journalist Richard Littlejohn many of the public just cannot understand why interviewers, opposition politicians or even backbenchers on the Labour side have not asked Brown to explain his own expenses. Why did he need a London flat whilst he was living in a grace-and-favour apartment in Downing street? Why did he spend thousands of pounds taxpayer's money on this property before making over to his wife and naming his second home as his constituency house Which, incidentally, he again renovated it at our expense? Dare we say it was to avoid capital gains tax when they sold it?

Brown seems to be as big a chancer as any other MP. But of course that cannot be so because he has Presbyterian values. God, the man is not only slippery but is a hypocrite as well.

Brown is acting more and more like a deluded madman and his megalomania is becoming dangerous. He knows that the vast majority of the British public hate him and hate what he did during his stage strutting and bragging ten years at the Treasury. In many other countries we would be demonstrating in the streets and perhaps we should revive the public anger that once caused riots over the poll tax.

As an aside, why has Tom Watson said he will stand down? Interesting.
Mind the apoplexy dear
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 08:41 am (UTC)
and calm down enough to consider what the intelligent course of action is, instead of being led by the nose by gutter hacks whose pensions and mortgage repayments depend on those who look at you over the shoulders of creatures like Thatcher and Blair.

To utter an intelligent vote , vote for your enemy's enemy. If you are British, your enemy is quisling Blatcherism, the rotting remains of which in government is trying to oust a potentially reforming Brown / Balls axis - and there's a new wave led by a slippery toff waiting in the wings.

There are two things that your enemy fears, the BNP and the conscientious abstainer from the pseudo-democratic circus
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
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The day after tomorrow.
[info]8020rule wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 08:49 am (UTC)
What has recently happened to the econermy is now happening to the political!.

The problem we have is that unfortunally we have no clear process to follow throught for the future. All parties have been effected by the recent T&S claims and even the leader of the tories is now in a situation where the two key areas he was gdfocusing on have been undermined ie " We need to get back on personnel spending and we are a party for the middle class.

I think UKIP will pick up a lot of Tory votes and leave David damaged!. Gordon on the other hand is already expected to come off poorly so there will be no surprise there! The Libs may also pick up votes as voters are left with no where else to go.

Unfortunally as 80% of our current laws come the EU to morrows voting is not going to do the country any good what so ever!!!!
Millionaire MPs
[info]need_new_mps wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:51 am (UTC)
Please could someone find out how many MPs are millionaires and how many were not millionaires before coming to Parliament.
Which MPs are not millionaires now......maybe not any I think........
Authority, What Authority?
[info]neil639 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 12:22 pm (UTC)
As Prime Minister Brown has never had any authority. All we have seen are continual, pathetic and failed attempts, almost on a weekly basis, to make a comeback. A comeback from what I ask?
Re: Authority, What Authority?
[info]leonard_merryl wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:03 pm (UTC)
Next time it won't be custard.
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[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 02:32 pm (UTC)
No less ridiculuous than some other contributions. reminds me of when I was once 'resting' as actors call it, I set up an escort agency. Ahh for those wild days. Mind you it did also provide 'cover'.
If you want : a) to utter an *effective* protest vote; b) to strengthen what is possibly a reforming Brown/Balls axis force at the top of the tree; then vote BNP - and you'll have the pleasure of watching snouts and "gentlemen" sweat, in addition to giving strength to the Brown/Balls possibly reforming axis, in the face of a coordinated snarling crescendo from the stinking dregs of 30 years of Blatcherism in government.
Otherwise, if like me you are denied that opportunity, abstain from the pseudo-democratic circus.
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
Voting Green is the best option
[info]chrisedwardz wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 02:05 pm (UTC)
Vote Green Party to protest against the expenses scandal and see off the BNP in the Euro elections. They are the best placed party, statistically, to keep the neo-Nazis out of power. And they are untainted by the MPs expenses scandal.

By voting Green you can give the mainstream a parties a kick up the backside for the expenses scandal AND put the neo-Nazis BNP back in its cage.

Vote for a Green New Deal to generate millions of green jobs--insulating all our homes and buildings to conserve energy, developing solar and wind power, and creating a first class, integrated, modern public transport system to end gridlock. Even Obama agrees broadly with this, though it remains to be seen if he delivers.

Under the EU PR system, the BNP only needs 8% of the vote to get an MEP elected. This would be a disaster. We don't want crackpot ethnic cleansers running Europe!

THE BIGGER THE TURN OUT THE LESS LIKELY THAT THE BNP WILL BE ELECTED.

EU elections are notorious for low turn outs and there only local council elections in the shire counties--not in the metropolitan areas where the BNP is a particular menace--which means there is even more of a danger of the BNP sneaking in by the back door..

Everyone should resist the temptation to stay at home and encourage their friends and family to vote.

Use your vote on Thursday 4th June!
Re: Voting Green is the best option
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 05:32 pm (UTC)
The The Green party advocates protection and stewardship of the environment more strongly than most other political parties. Given the strong relationship between population growth and environmental degradation, it is of interest to examine the positions taken by Green Party on issues of population and immigration.

The Greens' come across a tad schizophrenic. Their detailed statement on immigration conflicts in both tenor and substance with its detailed statement on population. The population statement, for example, calls for "a gradual reduction in the England and Wales population over a number of generations." Its statement on immigration, however, states that "Richer regions and communities do not have the right to use migration controls to protect their privileges from others in the long term. .... We will work to achieve greater equity between the England and Wales and non-Western countries. In step with this, we will progressively reduce England and Wales immigration controls." With shameless invective, it labels as "racists of the far right" all those persons in the the United Kingdom and Europe who favor increased immigration controls.

No. The Green party is not the solution to the problems England now faces. The BNP have very 'Green' credentials also. You haven't about of them, because the media is busy brainwashing you into believing the BNP are leather clad Nazis clicking well shined Jackboots all day.

Anyway. Here's your chance, to examine the BNP's green credentials up close and personal.


http://bnp.org.uk/category/peak-oil/


http://landandpeople.bnp.org.uk/
Re: Voting Green is the best option - not - [info]cronyblatcher - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 08:16 pm (UTC) Expand
Browns government
[info]bogbrush2 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 02:38 pm (UTC)
If they want a classless society, Brown & Co are setting a fine example, they have no class at all. Best leave government to those that don't have to do it to earn a crust!
Cloth caps and trebles all round!
Browns eyes give it away. He's a defeated commie!
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 03:46 pm (UTC)
Obviously, Gorden didn't pay enough attention to his masters at the Frankfurt School. Silly boy.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236
Re: Browns eyes give it away. He's a defeated commie!
[info]almightymat wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 04:45 pm (UTC)

"For the first time, Americans today are..."

Collin! I know that you love to post the videos, but this one is about America not Britain, silly goose! I stopped watching as soon as I realised, maybe you made a mistake, apart from your choice of party..?

X
Re: Browns eyes give it away. He's a defeated commie! - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 05:04 pm (UTC) Expand
Unsolicited evidence if needed, of the soundness of my argument and recommendation to protest voters
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 05:12 pm (UTC)
is visible above as the personal attention of a paid hack all day.
http://www.geocities.com/cronyblatcher/the_pseudo_democracy.htm
Jacqui Smith's exit makes it necessary to promote a woman
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:36 pm (UTC)
That statement is sexist. What happened to the politically correct Labour we know and hate?

"a promising future as a leading Blairite moderniser" See how many contradictions you can spot in this statement!
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