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Mayor 'provoked Tube strike'

By Emily Ashton, Press Association

A Labour MP today said there was a "real suspicion" that Boris Johnson's fingers were "all over" the provocation of the strike on London Underground (LU).

Andrew Dismore (Hendon) said Mr Johnson, the Mayor of London, had "interfered" and caused a planned suspension of the strike to be lifted.

He told the Commons that the Rail Maritime and Transport (RMT) union had signed an agreement on Tuesday evening to stop the strike going ahead.

But just 35 minutes later, LU management told the union they had made a phone call and could no longer abide by the agreement, he said.

During Commons exchanges on upcoming business, Mr Dismore said: "Could we have a debate to establish exactly to whom that phone call was made because there's a real suspicion that the Mayor of London's fingers are all over the provocation of this dispute.

"I think members ought to be aware if the Mayor of London interfered in this and caused the suspension of the strike to be lifted."

Commons Leader Harriet Harman said Mr Johnson should "play his part in bringing all sides together" to make sure that London's transport network was working properly.

She added: "What we don't need is megaphone diplomacy on any side, what we don't need is soundbites from people.

"What we need is a proper public transport system."

Mr Johnson's spokesman said: "The Mayor had no involvement in the negotiations.

"These were led by Richard Parry, the managing director of London Underground, whom the Mayor entrusted to deliver the best result for Londoners.

"The RMT leadership is being duplicitous when they say that there was an agreement on the table.

"In fact, only a version that the RMT were proposing existed. LU made the very reasonable request that the RMT suspend strike action so that this could be worked through.

"However the RMT leadership refused to continue or give the talks more time and walked out.

"Londoners will be infuriated by their behaviour and will join us in calling for the RMT to suspend this strike immediately and return to negotiations."

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Deceipt
[info]neil639 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 02:53 pm (UTC)
Because Johnson took no direct part in the negotiations does not mean that he was not responsible for provoking the strike. We all know that was what Thatcher and her cronies regularly did. Johnson appears to be a rather unpleasant individual - a typical Tory politician I suppose.
Re: Deceipt
[info]the_kiddie7 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 03:39 pm (UTC)
Not as upleasant as Mr Crow who has been looking for a scapegoat to blame for it not going his way and not too well either. Good on you Mr Johnson if it was you as I am sick of LU management always giving in to his blackmail. Let them stay out for as long as they want and they will soon be back hopefuuly without their obnoxious Leader.
Typical blame Mrs Thatcher always a good cheap shot.
Good On Boris - Stand Up To Old Fashioned Unions
[info]mike4626 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 04:44 pm (UTC)
good on Boris. It is about time someone stood up to the unions who are ruining this country with their old fashioned ways.
Re: Good On Boris - Stand Up To Old Fashioned Unions
[info]mrjohn01 wrote:
Friday, 12 June 2009 at 06:39 am (UTC)
did we just fall through a time slip into the 1970s ?
How would johnson?
[info]s1m0nn wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 03:09 pm (UTC)
If Johnson wasn't involved, why does he know so much about what was on the table?
Re: How would johnson?
[info]trixster3000 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 03:20 pm (UTC)
In today's environment the tube drivers have absolutely no excuse for putting Londoners through all this aggravation. If they don't appreciate their jobs then give them to people who will! The RMT are not setting a good example to the Trades Union movement; their arguments stink!
boris johnson!
[info]merle2006 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 03:15 pm (UTC)
boris johnson! DANGER! KEEP AWAY! DANGER! KEEP AWAY!
[info]giganticmonkey wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 03:19 pm (UTC)
If it's because of Boris how come they've been striking every year for the last ten years at the first sign of sunshine - well, well before Boris came along. This smacks very much of a desperate attempt to score political points on the part of the Labour party.
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 04:02 pm (UTC)
That's true, every year bang in the middle of summer we get this - the opportunity for a couple of days off on the surface in the sun instead of deep underground must be too hard to resist. It seems there are just a handful of staff around the stations, the rest likely sitting at home in the garden toasting Chairman Mao...
Perhaps we could have a debate
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 03:30 pm (UTC)
Perhaps we could have a debate on whether Mr Dismore's organization, the Labour Party, is in the pay of the unions and in particular the RMT (does that stand for Revolutionary Marxist Twats I wonder?). A bit of a conflict of influence isn't it Dismore?
Its good that we have a few MPs out there who are happy to stand up for ordinary people when somebody is trying to push them around.
Conservatives
[info]mirthdog wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 04:05 pm (UTC)
The Conservatives are the British equal of the US Republicans, the party of Bush and Chaney. Boris Johnson could very easily have taken a page out of their book, and caused havoc with the truth while blaming it on the unions. This tactic is to discredit and weaken the unions, pay workers lower wages, which, in the long run will bring ALL of our wages down, enriching the coffers of the wealthy. Any of you who think otherwise have missed the signs. Oh well.
Re: Conservatives
[info]the_kiddie7 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 04:22 pm (UTC)
Amazing it sounds just like Mr Crow with his Marxist ideology. You must have read his book, if he's written one yet.
Re: Conservatives
[info]loudamerican wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 10:17 pm (UTC)
Not even close. Simply put: Your conservatives: "Queen and country". American conservatives: "Liberty or death".

The two groups actually fought a fairly well known war against each other some time ago, based on their philosophical differences.

By the way, am I the only one who finds it shocking that Bob Crow was a card carrying communist when the Berlin wall was UP? I mean, this guy's pedigree basically goes back to Stalin (and beyond). Members of his former union were going to East Germany to give speeches as recently as the 1980s. Why the hell does anyone listen to this guy? Or do I misunderstand what it means to be British these days?
A necessary strike
[info]allenn007 wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 04:20 pm (UTC)
Most of the media haven't reported that LU intend to make 1000 staff redundant, instead they have misreported this strike as about pay. It isn't, it is about a large corporation riding roughshod over its staff and thankfully the RMT is strong enough to oppose.

We need more strikes like this and more people willing to take a stand against bullish and profiteering large corporations. People should look at the bigger picture instead of worrying about their own personal inconvenience for a couple of days.
Re: A necessary strike
[info]i_drove_a_train wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 04:53 pm (UTC)
"Most of the media haven't reported that LU intend to make 1000 staff redundant, instead they have misreported this strike as about pay. It isn't, it is about a large corporation riding roughshod over its staff and thankfully the RMT is strong enough to oppose.

We need more strikes like this and more people willing to take a stand against bullish and profiteering large corporations. People should look at the bigger picture instead of worrying about their own personal inconvenience for a couple of days."

Obviously an RMT member willing to lose 2 days pay for a hidden agenda either by Bob (no brainer thug) Crow or Boris (The Buffoon) Johnson.

In the current climate and so early in the negotiations the RMT should have called off this action, RMT members have lost money for someone elses personal crusade.

Shame for the RMT really that members of Aslef have trained negotiators saw sense and are able to trust their union thus turned up for work and effectively reduced a full blown strike into a bit of an inconvenience - they even got 58000 football fans home from Wembley during RMT's Action!!!!
Re: A necessary strike
[info]jonthedog wrote:
Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 07:48 pm (UTC)
Why on earth shouldn't any corporation make anyone redundant if they are 'redundant'? People need to look at the bigger picture and see that we need efficiently run public services instead of assuming that by some miracle the Underground employes the perfect amount of people.
The bigger picture
[info]uhmstruth wrote:
Friday, 12 June 2009 at 02:28 pm (UTC)
The bigger picture includes Privatisation, Lobbyists, Hedgefunds, the Banking 'Industry', the Manner of Operation of so many capitalist organisations: Self-regulation, Paring down workforce, Small Print, Stealing pension Funds, Private Health Companies (they are allowed to charge the NHS up to 25% extra for an op the NHS could do better - & where do the patients go after the Private Health Co makes a mistake ? If they are still alive! They make the NHS less viable because they tender for the easy standard operations & leave the difficult ones to the NHS, ie giving greater cost to the NHS to carry & so able to undercut on the standard ops -- this is what is happening to the Royal Mail !) , then in the distant past the start was that the 'ordinary' people were undermined by the Enclosure Act and The Clearances . Who funds the Tories ? Also ever heard of Lord Ashcroft - he of the Belize base yet claims to be of the UK? Look at the expenses claims of the Tory Class - those the Daily Torygraph have allowed us to 'see'.
Actually listen to what & how Boris spoke of this Trade Union action. NB Brown & Blair & Mandelson are not Labour.
If you were doing the work rather than throwing orders about, & were getting the pittance rather than the excessive payments + bonuses maybe you would understand where the trade Unions are coming from .
It seems the NHS 'management class' saw fit to make redundant the people doing the health work rather than the new 'management class' - not sure there is any class in their act !

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