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MPs 'have duty to opt for state schooling'

Public sector must lead by example to build fair society, says senior Labour MP

By Andrew Grice, Political editor

MPs and public sector staff have a moral duty to educate their own children in state rather than private schools, a senior Labour MP has declared.

Barry Sheerman, chairman of the Commons Education Select Committee, has appealed to MPs in all parties to "lead by example" to combat the impression that the only way better-off people can guarantee their children a good education is to send them to independent schools.

Writing in the Fabian Society's magazine to be published this week, Mr Sheerman – who was educated by the state – said BBC staff and priests should also join a new campaign to convince other parents to put their faith in the state sector.

He said private schools should not be abolished but claimed that, while only 7 per cent of children go to them, they are damaging Labour's attempts to improve social mobility and create a fair society.

The Huddersfield MP said there was an opportunity to launch an all-party drive in favour of the state system because Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Nick Clegg, the three main party leaders, are all likely to opt for state schools for their own children. "Elected representatives in public office should lead by example and send their children to the kind of community schools that their constituents send their children to. This is particularly important for MPs," he said.

He criticised MPs representing affluent parts of the South-east who claim they cannot find good schools for their sons and daughters. "Not only do I not believe this, I am convinced that community schools can only be made better when all of the community supports them. Education is not a commodity; it is our preparation for a democratic society," he said.

Mr Sheerman said questions should be asked when well-paid managers in the public sector fail to support community schools. "Those who are in education – vice-chancellors, head teachers, directors of children services and so on – should feel morally obliged to support the state school system.

"If wealthier parents persist in sending their children to independent schools, then there is a clear tension between individuals' strategies to raise standards and our policies to reduce inequality. I would like to extend this ethos to all those local and national civil servants who receive their salaries courtesy of the public purse," he said.

He suggested that the BBC's coverage of education could not be "objective and impartial" because many of its managers and journalists were privately-educated. He complained of a "persistent campaign against state education" in national newspapers.

"We are drip-fed the notion that if you have the income, you have no option but to push your child into the independent sector. To consider the local community school, the comprehensive or academy is to show a complete lack of interest in your child's future," he said. "This rhetoric leads only to greater socio-economic segregation across schools and reinforces further socio-economic disadvantage."

Mr Sheerman said that priests, like politicians, have a similar responsibility. "What a delight it would be for so many parishioners to learn that the leader of the flock thought their community's schools were good enough for their own children," he said.

While Tory politicians are more likely to send their children to private schools, Labour figures who have used them include Lord Falconer of Thoroton, the former lord chancellor, the left-wing MP Diane Abbott and Ruth Kelly, the former transport secretary, who sent her son to one because he has dyslexia. Mr Clegg has not ruled out using the independent sector for his sons, but said he hopes he does not need to move them out of state schools.

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MPs 'have duty to opt for state schooling'
[info]jdraven wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 01:47 am (UTC)
Diane Abbott used to criticise her fellow MPs for sending their children to private schools but then she mad an about turn and sent her son to a private school. I wonder what she has to say although she will probably want to keep her head down.
JohnR
HYPOCRITICAL EDUCATION POLICY:
[info]bgarvie wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 03:57 am (UTC)
It's a bit late now to make such comments. Why has it taken 12 years for this dysfunctional Government to decide their children should have been sent to State Schools? Blair, Harman, Abbot and the rest had ample opportunities to send their childen to State schools, but chose to do otherwise, as is their right. However, they do look like champagne socialists. Do as I say, not as I do.
This is just another meaningless headline grabbing announcement that will come to nothing.
Re: HYPOCRITICAL EDUCATION POLICY:
[info]rojaws wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 04:54 am (UTC)
Couldn't have put it better.
Re: HYPOCRITICAL EDUCATION POLICY:
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 08:07 am (UTC)
"Blair, Harman, Abbot and the rest" including 'Equalities' Commission (on part-time pay of over 110,000 pa) chairman Phillips - incidentally also currently (reported, by Indi and other sources) on a rampage because (he alleges) his ("racist") staff are against him because he is "black" (splutter)
It was a free country
[info]johnnynorfolk wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 05:52 am (UTC)
MPs should be free to decide, as it is up to voters to be free who to vote for.
Personal freedom has become less and less under Labour.
1984
[info]over325one wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 06:13 am (UTC)
Some pigs are more equal than others.
Re: 1984
[info]andrea_2 wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 08:27 am (UTC)
That's Animal Farm
State schools
[info]marionmerrick wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 06:35 am (UTC)
Instead of bemoaning the fact that those with a choice choose private schools, make the state sector what it once was. Labour forced comprehensives on us, then sent their own children to the private sector. Grammar schools were free and better than many private schools. Many Secondary Moderns were also excellent. Labour ruined this and created the present situation. Take a long hard look in the mirror.
Re: State schools
[info]jaffgyp wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 07:54 am (UTC)
pity that you have apparently never seen a REAL working comprehensive - and by that i mean working for everyone, not just a favoured few as the grammar schools did; i live in a fine community which is based firmly on REAL comprehensive education, ie everyone uses these schools; academic results are splendid - AND SO ARE SOCIAL RESULTS
its time that the snobby divisive 'state' ephithet was given a much needed burial - what matters in a good life for all is truly shared community facilities;
our main trouble here is that we are being invaded by southerners, who come for the safe and good life of a true community, and promptly set about damaging it with their sad beliefs that they must keep themselves away from all the plebs in 'state' schools, hospitals, housing etc
of course he's right
[info]jaffgyp wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 07:42 am (UTC)
yes, of course in a moral world anyone who earns a living from a public institution should be obliged to use it as a condition of their employment - fat chance in today's terminally toxic society
This strain of oxymoronic 'multicultural society'
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 07:53 am (UTC)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/faith-and-unreason-the-headteacher-hounded-from-her-job-1663187.html (comments about which are tellingly blocked by the Indi) involving purchase by semi-literate third world village Mullahs wielding an organised ghetto block vote, of third world cultural conditioning of children including second class citizenship on girls within the perimeter of schools : a) was stoutly championed by Mrs. Wonderone at a cost of 700 her hour to the legal aid fund (not long after she had a railways ticket inspector sacked for demanding to see her ticket (when she didn't have one)); b) is actively supported by so-called socilaist MPs (Dobson in London being a nice example) who keep their lobs by buying the organised block ghetto vote at considerable anti-social cost mostly borne by children and those they impact on in later life in the larger host community
Re: This strain of oxymoronic 'multicultural society'
[info]andrea_2 wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 08:27 am (UTC)
I've just tried to post a comment on the 'Head Teacher hounded from her job' piece, and agree it was blocked. Maybe that was because I used words like religious bullies and converted zealots. See if this one gets through.
Re: This strain of oxymoronic 'multicultural society'
[info]jaffgyp wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 10:02 am (UTC)
me too- my first reply to you was blocked by the usual incomprehensible message
poor blair
[info]dkayedon wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 07:56 am (UTC)
He had to send his children to semi private school, for their own servival. So there is a need. But "dyslexia" or Abbott would she/he have been picked on ?. The system creates the horrid situation of class and religious crapp, so stronmg in this GB
Re: poor blair
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
It is by means 'private' or semi-private. It is a state funded reservation for 'naice ' children, legalised by a completely bogus 'religious' cover for sharp elbowed exploiters of Blair/Harman syndrome as a charactersitic of a seriously dysfunctional education system, who although they can usually afford it , are in fact too tightfisted to 'go private', in much the same way and for the same r4eason that they fraudulently fiddle their expenses
MP's have duty to opt for state schooling
[info]bernie_adams wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 08:25 am (UTC)
What happened to 'freedom of choice'?

I beleive to make it a fair system Private Schools should be more accessible for children with additional needs and low income families. The government should foucs on creating a system of making that possible.

Bernadette, Birmingham
Re: MP's have duty to opt for state schooling
[info]andrea_2 wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 08:36 am (UTC)
Only rich people have choices. Always have and always will. Freedom of Choice will only mean anything when it is a choice everyone can make.

MP's should put their money where their mouths are. If State schools are good enough for our children, then they must be good enough for theirs. The very act of an MP using private education is to say that they recognise that the State system they are paid to uphold is not good enough. And if it isn't good enough they should be ashamed. It's their job to make it good enough.
Re: MP's have duty to opt for state schooling
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 12:21 pm (UTC)
On the other hand, operation of state financed reservations for 'naice' children (inlcuding those of tight-fisted pols like Blair and Harperson et al, who as anti-social citizens turn their backs on the schools where they live and sharp-elbow local children aside to get places for their privileged brats into a remote reservation) is completely unacceptable and a wilful misuse of public money, protected by the sociopathioc pols who benefit
state schools
[info]jimokane wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 12:33 pm (UTC)

Completely agree. But what about the Royal family? They send their kids to public school while Prince Charles bemoans falling standards in the state sector. Surely somebody with his influence would be able to help raise standards in state education.
State Schooling
[info]hyufd1 wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 02:14 pm (UTC)
The way to improve education is not that suggested by Barry Sheerman. It is to encourage choice through vouchers, grammars where parents want them and building on the scholarships at our top public schools. Indeed public schools in themselves have little impact on social mobility as shown by Canada which has the same level of social mobility as Sweden according to the Sutton Trust with public schools. Indeed sending your children to your 'local school' is a little different in a urban school in a poor area to a wealthy suburb.
Re: State Schooling
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 02:37 pm (UTC)
A way of driving up standards in all State schools, is to outlaw private schooling and allocate places (within a tolerable bus journey radius) by lottery, for the reason that it would more evenly distribute 'pushy' parents throughout the system.
It involves a measure of constraint of civil liberties, but nothing compared with the level already in place (and meekly if imprudently tolerated) or planned. Once standads generally have been driven upwards (aided by adequate levels of tax investment - including rfesources diverted out of corporate welfare wars etcetera) , then need for other forms of interference / selection including Blair / Harman syndrome related practices, would rapidly diminish
State Schooling and Government Intelligence
[info]tom_beds wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 03:08 pm (UTC)
Well, this should guarantee another plunge down the chasm into the depths of what we get from those who are elected to govern. Smart move by the PC brigade. Almost no intelligent person will go forward for election. We will be left with the already burgeoning group of costermongers, barrow boys, lawyers and shysters as the only source filling the green seats.

Next thing will be that all prospective candidates have to have been to an inner city comprehensive school, no university education, jobless when applying, and have been brought up in a tower block. That should about get things right for the lowest common demoninator for the commons. Whilst we are at it, let's make sure the civil service is equally neutered.
Dumbing Down
[info]melker88 wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 03:58 pm (UTC)
What a pathetic and typical example of this Labour government trying to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. Everyone aspires to give their children the best possible education and if they can afford it, most people would want to get the best education which just happens to be within the private sector.Who wants to pay a massive amount for private education if they could get the same standard of education in the free state system. Same with the NHS. This is just a good example of this government being unable to provide a good enough service in the state sytem so to hide their failure and instead of trying to improve the state system, they try to knock down the private system so there can be no embarassing comparison with the lousy standards in the state system. Typical lousy socialist outlook/dogma on life and the sad british disease of envy. Hard working parents are sacrificing and skimping and saving to pay for the best education they can get for their children and thus also saving the state a lot of money but still paying the same taxes and are villified for this. Alice in Wonderland?
Re: Dumbing Down
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 6 April 2009 at 05:14 pm (UTC)
There is national emergency. Britain has been so thoroughly bananarepublicanised de-educated and de-skilled, that there is urgent need for a crash programme that will develope the only natural resource we have left - people. There is no room in such a programme for your 'hard working' (aka part-time parenting anti-social sharp elbowed gluttons) heavily blinkered apartheid passengers. The young are not a tolerated nuisance they are the future - all of them. You and your 'pushy' sharp-elbowed kind are urgently needed, widely dustributed throughout the system to drive standards upwards by counteracting forces that degrade a mass education system. You are also needed to crusade for massive redirection of communal resources away from waste and misuse intio education, education, education.
Why?
[info]rants_a_lot wrote:
Wednesday, 8 April 2009 at 10:49 am (UTC)
I'm lucky that all of the state schools in my area are at least OK, and several are very good, but I would send my daughter to a private school without a second thought if that was the best option for her (and if I had the cash).

I don't agree with private education but my principles would never get in the way of what is best for my child.

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