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New right to 'flexitime' for 4.5 million parents

By Andrew Grice, Political Editor
Wednesday, 23 July 2008

The legislation would enable fathers to spend more time with their children

John Lawrence

The legislation would enable fathers to spend more time with their children

The government is to encourage more fathers to work part time or flexible hours so that they can spend more time with their children.

Ministers will promise to extend the right to request flexible working to an extra 4.5 million people in talks with trade unions and Labour activists this weekend. It is currently available to parents with children up to the age of six, and will be extended to those whose children are up to 16.

Senior Labour sources told The Independent yesterday that ministers want to rebalance the party's "family-friendly" policies to recognise the importance for children to see more of their fathers. "The key is to be modern and fair," one said. "Many mums want to work and dads to see their kids, rather than work crazy hours."

Ministers believe that, as well as enabling parents to juggle work and families, the move will help society by ensuring that boys in particular have more contact with their fathers. They hope that over the long term this will reduce problems such as knife crime, which some experts have attributed partly to the absence of male role models in many families.

Under the changes, fathers could also be allowed to take up a larger proportion of parental leave after a baby is born. Labour has announced that the period of paid leave will be raised from 39 to 52 weeks by 2010. The first 26 weeks would have to be taken by the mother, but the other half could be taken by the father if the mother went back to work. The system may now be made more flexible than originally planned.

The moves follow criticism last week that the current system of parental leave has reinforced the equality gap between the sexes in the world of work. Nicola Brewer, chief executive of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, asked: "Has policy on maternity leave made too many assumptions about the choices families will make and as a result entrenched the stereotype that it is women who do the caring and men who do the earning?"

The commission declined to comment last night but is expected to give the Labour plans a broad welcome.

Labour sources say the pressure for a new package on flexible working came from constituency Labour parties as well as the trade unions. The new rights are partly intended to placate the unions because ministers will reject other demands on their "shopping list" for Labour's national policy forum at Warwick University – such as allowing a return to secondary picketing during strikes and a 50 per cent tax rate for people earning more than £100,000 a year.

Other possible sweeteners include a pledge to create "green jobs" by expanding renewable energy and nuclear power and having "green representatives" in the workplace like health and safety staff. Ministers hope to reach a broad consensus over the "work-life balance". Unions are also seeking the right for parents to take up to a week a year off work when their children are sick or taking exams, without it counting as holiday.

Some of the proposals may be opposed by business. Kieran O'Keeffe, senior policy adviser at the British Chambers of Commerce, said: "It seems that the unions are intent on legalising every element of life at work, which leads many of our members to believe that they're deeply out of touch. The vast majority of businesses already make every effort to accommodate reasonable requests from staff.

"We see no need to augment this with further rights to time off. The Government needs to resist union pressure to heap yet more legal obligations on employers, particularly as economic conditions deteriorate."

Who will benefit

About six million workers, those with children aged six or under, have the right to request to work flexibly – such as part-time, flexible hours or some days from home. Labour plans to extend this to a further 4.5 million parents – those with children aged 16 and under.

It has not yet decided when this would happen, and business groups are urging ministers to phase it in to give firms time to prepare. So far, 90 per cent of requests to work flexibly are already granted – a sign that employers want to keep staff happy.

Parental leave, currently 39 weeks, is due to rise to 52 weeks by 2010, when the first 26 weeks would have to be taken by the mother but the rest could be taken by the father.

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You probably also gave up wok rather than your husband because you would have been allowed maternity leave, whereas paternity leave is not as easy to do, even now.

The internet is a very powerful tool which cuts out costs of overheads for businesses and allows people access to networks from almost anywhere, why can't people (this article is focused on men) be able to work from home thus cutting out the time travelling to and from work and lunchbreak away from home so they can be with their kids?

The inequality of time spent causes problems in intself, e.g. the mum always telling the kids off and when dad gets home he gets the quality time with the kids (if he gets home on time) which may result in preference for the father (or a stronger coond with the mother) and cause animosity between parents, whereas it's much more 21st century to share responsibility of earning and raising children.

Posted by Sara | 24.07.08, 17:42 GMT

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Of course the more parental contact the better, and mutual support between parents is essential. What I am saying is that if people examine their lives they will probably find time, just like if we honestly examine our budgets we'll find we're not quite so badly off as we think we are.

I gave up work because one, I wanted to bring up my children and two, my husband earned more so it made financial sense. He worked long hours (very long hours) and it wasn't easy to always be together but we did it and my children haven't run riot. Children aren't stupid, they know that their parents are working hard on their behalf, they recognise that in itself, is a way of showing them how much you love them. Children who run riot are not the ones with two loving parents, they are the ones whose parents sadly just don't care.

Posted by Andrea | 24.07.08, 08:34 GMT

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I think what Andrew Grice is saying is that our view on family life is out-dated and needs to be modified.

In the scenario of a father leaving for work before the kids get up and coming home after they go to bed, missing out on any quality time with said children. Leaving my mother to look after the kids. I'm not an expert, but young children (esp. if there's more than one) shouldn't be left to just one parent.

Sometimes there just aren't enough hours in the day! Parenting is a team 'game' isn't it? Aren't team games easier with man-to-man marking?

I also don't think that it has to be either the parents or the businesses to come up with ways to make parenting easier; can't it be both? Parents want to spend more time with their kids and this new legislation makes it easier.

Surely you can't disagree that kids these days need more guidance anyway? From my experience, a lot lof them are running riot!!

Posted by Sara | 23.07.08, 16:37 GMT

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'Perhaps it's not the parents who should be imaginative when it comes to finding time to spend with their children but small businesses who need to be imaginative when it comes to keeping people employed' Sara 11.28.

Really, if parents can't make the effort then why should anyone else?

I don't own or run a business so I am not speaking from an employers point of view. I have brought up three children and like Kate, given up work in order to do so: no flash holidays, cars or clothes. But I can't see any reason why an employer should spend their time trying to come up with imaginative uses of time on the behalf of parents. That's the parents job. It goes with the territory.

I can't think of anything more bizarre than handing over the responsibility of finding time with my children to an employer. That is for my husband and me to do.

Posted by Andrea | 23.07.08, 13:58 GMT

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According to reports the person who works the silliest hours is Heathcliffe.

The problem with giving massive numbers of people flexible working hours is that the people who pay for this are the people without children who are expected to work even more inflexible hours. I worked in a specialist group in a large company. When the team leader had maternity leave her work was shared out between the other 3 people. The problem is that you cannot train somebody upto to do a specialist job and you cannot ask someone to go into a new area and then go back to their old area of work in 6 months. That is totally unfair to the individual.

Posted by Dave | 23.07.08, 13:32 GMT

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Kate,

My wife and I are bringing up our children with no holidays, car, flashy furniture etc. as well. We both went part'time to be able to share as much as possible the load. Luckily I have work that allows certain flexibilty, many of my friends do not and cannot afford to cut back work hours, especially with the increasing expense that having children entails nowadays. Of course it is a person's choice as to whether they have children or not and they should therefore take responsibility for the children. But the children do not grow up in a vacuum. They grow up in a society, and learn as much if not more, from what they see as from what they are told. It is not about what happened in the past, it is about what is happening NOW. How our society is evolving and the lesson's that our children are taking from this. Do we want our children to grow up thinking that they always take second place, apart from the 45 minutes we schedule in at night to see them? The results or obvious!

Posted by Jason | 23.07.08, 13:22 GMT

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Rubbish, yet again the citizens of the UK who have CHOSEN not to have children are about to be penalised in favour of those who have CHOSEN to have them. All that will happen is that they will have to do all the antisocial and hours that dont suit their coleagues who have CHOSEN to have children. I sympathise with the need for children to have the support of their parents and agree with some accomodation of this. What I strongly disagree with is the way that because a couple have CHOSEN to have children the rest of us are supposed to bend over backwards to accomodate their every whim around when they work and when they take their holidays. Last time I checked having children was a choice and so the consequences of this choice should also be considered.

Posted by Chris | 23.07.08, 13:10 GMT

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Why are the government singling out only parents to be allowed the right to flexible working hours. If it were about equality it should extend to all workers.

I am sick to death of taking up the slack for others who have chosen to engage in a breeding programme.

Posted by Ian | 23.07.08, 12:59 GMT

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Jason.

I have two children I did not work while the children were young. We had no holidays abroad, no car, no flashy furniture and got no handouts. We decided to have the children and so it was our responisibility to look after and pay for them. It's well past time people took responsibility for their choices in life and not expect the rest of us to pay for them and if you find these myopic and self interested views then tough.

Posted by Kate | 23.07.08, 12:45 GMT

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I have read all of the comments posted so far on the matter and am disgusted by the commenters who oppose the government's efforts to introduce a life-work balance in the workplace. These people must be the selfish business people who think only of money. I am a working mother who would rather be a housewife bringing up my children to become good citizens. This job is not being done well enough in over crowded state schools. Unfortunately, I have to go out to work to suplement my husband's income so that my family can just survive. This has resulted in my children being deprived of the good quality teaching that I would like them to have until they become responsible adults. The work-life balance is so bad in the UK that workers cannot get any time off to nurse their children through illnesses or to tend to them on their school holidays. The government should give some releif to workers from paying household bills and provide good quality care for children until adulthood

Posted by CL | 23.07.08, 11:30 GMT

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