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Cameron the blue leader

By Nigel Morris, Deputy Political Editor

Conservative party leader David Cameron, speaking on the Absolute Radio breakfast show

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Conservative party leader David Cameron, speaking on the Absolute Radio breakfast show

Perhaps David Cameron was getting into the holiday spirit a little early as he embarked on a "different type of radio interview".

Or perhaps he was trying too hard to prove his hip credentials when he attempted to spread the Conservative message to Absolute Radio's youth audience.

But his appearance backfired badly as the normally urbane Tory leader swore not once, but twice, in a matter of minutes.

First he blurted out the word "twat" as he explained why he did not use the Twitter social networking service. Moments later he used the milder term "pissed off" to describe the public mood with politicians.

Mr Cameron turned the air blue in an unintended way when he was he questioned by presenter Christian O'Connell about his personality and lifestyle.

Getting into the spirit of the deliberately unconventional interview, he attempted a vulgar pun when he was asked whether he was a convert to the Twitter website.

He answered that he was not, explaining: "The trouble with Twitter, the instantness of it. Too many twits might make a twat."

As laughter erupted in the studio, O'Connell enthused: "Brilliantly put, I think that's fantastic."

The Tory leader lapsed again as he discussed the impact of the expenses scandal on the reputation of MPs. He remarked: "The public are rightly, I think, pissed off - sorry I can't say that in the morning - angry with politicians."

Aides stressed that he had instantly said sorry for using the phrase "pissed off". Although they claimed "twat" was not classified as a swear word under broadcasting guidelines, they also apologised fully for its use.

One said: "He does not condone swearing and did not go on the programme with the intention of doing it."

Playing down the row later, Mr Cameron said: "You always have to be careful what you say. If I've caused any offence I obviously regret that. I was doing a radio interview and I'm sure that people will understand that."

But O'Connell disclosed that Gabby Bertin, the Tory leader's press secretary, had been less relaxed about the salty language used by her boss.

O'Connell said: "She leapt out of her skin after the first part of the interview ? when there had been some language.

"He said: 'That seemed to go OK.' She said: ‘Yeah, apart from the language.'

"He said: 'Oh, yeah, ‘pissed', sorry about that, I'm really sorry.' ? She said: ‘No, it was the ‘twat'.

"He said: ‘That's not a swear word.' I think he must be posh, where a lot of them don't think ‘twat' is a swear word. His press secretary went: ‘It is'."

The presenter joked that radio regulators did not take too dim a view of the word, explaining: "In terms of the fines we can get, it is not one of the big ones."

But Tony Thorne, a language consultant to Kings College, London, said the word was "genuinely provocative and earthy word" which could "get you a punch in the mouth" if used in public.

He said: "Swearing can be used by the middle class to make them appear more progressive and more authentic.

"I suspect David Cameron was trying to be edgy and gritty. But he misjudged it – there is still a big silent majority for whom this sort of language is offensive."

Mr Thorne said: "Language is a very emotive subject in Britain – people complain much more about bad language on television than sex or violence. There's still this weird verbal Puritanism about language. We constantly eff and blind, but we're also sensitive to it."

The word "twat" is among the oldest insults in the language. Thought to derive from the Old Norse for cut or forest clearing, it is widely used as a vulgar synonym for vagina.

Last year the use of word in the novel My Sister Jodie landed children's author Jacqueline Wilson in controversy.

Complaints from parents persuaded its publisher to replace the offending term with "twit".

Random House apologised for any offence caused and would remove it from future editions of the book. But it added that it felt the word was acceptable for children aged ten and over to read "especially as it is commonly used in a way that is removed from its original meaning".

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Yawn
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 02:12 pm (UTC)
When Cameron says something like "I'm going to give that fucked-up old cunt Brown a kick up his motherfucking arse at the next election" then it becomes newsworthy.
Re: Yawn
[info]chillipope wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 02:57 pm (UTC)
I'm with you Yawm lmao.

Is there no news today ? Yesterday there was an article about Katie Price, are we approaching new lows of reporting ?
[info]mickey_modster wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 02:12 pm (UTC)
You can take the man out of Eton.....
Good man.
[info]sportingmac wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 02:15 pm (UTC)
A human being as an MP - wow!
Re: Good man.
[info]robertclondon wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:02 am (UTC)
....or human being leading a party simply because he went to a school where he learnt to bray loudly and look ultra-confident under any circumstances, rather than because of his abilities, principles, experience or ideas.

Not very "WOW" to me. More like standard issue, pre-1960s upper-caste, patrician (a la Douglas Home) now trying to look 21st century, cool and "with it" by swearing.
Re: Good man.
[info]sportingmac wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:35 am (UTC)
..as opposed to those that went to school where they learnt to bully and beat up anyone who spoke against them - our current political system as run by our current government. And on the subject of ability, experience and ideas - not much of that in our current government is there?

As for this 'class' shit that you refer to - rather have that than left-wing dross that we have for a government.
Re: Good man.
[info]robertclondon wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:48 am (UTC)
Just because I don't like horseshit, it doesn't mean you have to like bullshit. You are still trapped in the old "enemy's enemy is my friend" mentality of our stale old political system. I dislike Labour just as much as you do, actually, and I agree with all your criticisms.

As for that 'class shit' you mention, it is totally right to mention it in Cameron's context, because it explains why Cameron (and most of his shadow cabinet) are where they are today. Had they gone to a bog standard comprehensive, they would not be leading politicians. I doubt very much they would be leading anything. They have no special abilities that mark them out at all, just a privileged education and LOTS of inherited money that has freed up their time for vacuous self-promotion, so why should we give them our votes?
Re: Good man.
[info]sportingmac wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 09:04 am (UTC)
..so we agree then - a change in the way politics is done.
Re: Good man.
[info]mike4626 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 01:11 pm (UTC)
excellent, a politician who uses real words unlike Mr Brown with his 'quantitative easing' and such like gobbledygook.
Oh, come on !
[info]tim_hinchliffe wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 02:24 pm (UTC)
How many people complaining does it now take to make a 'row' ? I'm a bit worried it might have been reduced to just the one.
Anyway, I far prefer a language with the occasional bad word thrown in to that hideous language from which all meaning has been carefully removed, as used by most Govt. ministers.
Sky
[info]simonchilds wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 02:36 pm (UTC)
"Other details elicited about Mr Cameron included that he "loves" Sky Plus."

Yet more less than subtle cosying up to Rupert Murdoch?
Twat as in hit and the other thing.
[info]pcsobilly wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 02:54 pm (UTC)

Possible leader of U.K. government when asked which character he most identified with from the A-team replies Mr T ! Not the leader or brains of the gang, not the entrepeneur, not the journalist, not the outsider pilot, oh no no no.... he chooses the character whose role is normally punching people in the face, wearing alot of gold and doing a spot of welding when not driving,

In a better world MTV is airing a celebrity death match election night special featuring :
Da Clunking Fist Vs Ones Own Class David.
Let the Twat Twatting commence.

God you're all so gullible
[info]timonsays wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 04:00 pm (UTC)
Are you lot - including the media - really so naive and gullible that you think this was a 'slip'.

My arse it was.

It was a planned device to (i) make Cameron look 'hip' and (ii) to get lots of attention for an otherwise completely unnewsworthy interview.

And you really fell for it - hook, line and sinker.
Re: God you're all so gullible
[info]littleglimmer wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 04:28 pm (UTC)
It's the 'any news is good news' ploy from his days as a PR junior. Quite deliberate. Or maybe it wasn't - after all he did claim to be human a few weeks ago when he said he made a mistake in not knowing how much mortgage he was paying, thereby claiming too much on expenses.
We might very well want a human running the country, but do we want someone who makes such fundamental mistakes? What mistakes is he going to make on the country's behalf?
It's time MR C put up or shut
[info]theteewat wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 04:45 pm (UTC)
http://www.the-twat.blogspot.com

I hope he'll respond to this measured response
News
[info]thelzdking wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 04:46 pm (UTC)
Suggested headline: Posh twat uses inappropriate language.
Time for Mr C to put up
[info]theteewat wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 04:46 pm (UTC)
http://www.the-twat.blogspot.com/

I hope Mr Cameron will look at this measured response with the seriousness it deserves...
Cameron also used the word cut
[info]dumbganda wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 05:06 pm (UTC)


As in spending. Not the same word Lord of the Truth would use, you know the 4 lettered one with an n? Darling dear you cant use that word. Oooo it sounds...soooo naughty. Say restrain, you know like in collars, leashes and yea whips. Thats a nice one. Now thats sexy.
[info]razzysmum wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 06:32 pm (UTC)
Kuma2000.
Amen... THAT I'd love to hear.
As for 'shock-horror'... I'm in 60's and didn't think it was even news worthy... I'm old enough to have INVENTED worse than that!
Go Gordo go
[info]caurnie1 wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 09:21 pm (UTC)
The reaction of the press and tv to this trivial matter is astonishing. The guy is human which is more than can be said for our foulmouthed telephone throwing PM. This is a nothing story which makes me think that Mandelson must have been prodding his friends in the media to do a blow-up job on this story.
The real story is CAMERON 42% BROWN 24% - TIME TO GO GLORIOUS GORDO
Re: Go Gordo go
[info]littleglimmer wrote:
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 at 09:43 pm (UTC)
Mandelson has friends in the media?? Are you kidding?
Twits
[info]bela77 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 06:14 am (UTC)
I am pissed off by a bunch of twats who think this is newsworthy!
Re: Twits
[info]sportingmac wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:37 am (UTC)
..me too. Must be a slow news day. What with teh Iraq war crimes inquiry starting today and soldiers being killed and MOD wanting its money back - very slow news day.
Back to skool Nigel.
[info]botegogae wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 06:54 am (UTC)
What makes anyone think that saying 'twat' would be down with the kids. Middle aged people (esp. Guardianistas) who say 'cool' and 'groovy' commit that particular sin. A hanging offence for the same using the word 'bling'; for that a scaffold whould be erected.

And anyway to say that ''too many twits make a twat'' which in this sense is a collective noun isn't swearing at all.
Re: God you're all so gullible
[info]derekcolman wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 06:56 am (UTC)
It's just a cynical attempt to gain votes among the swearing classes. It does not fool me, I know he is still an old Etonian.
"Hip credentials"?
[info]adrianclark wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 07:33 am (UTC)
Why this assumption (and Stephen Pound MP has said the same as you) that by swearing Cameron was trying to be cool? Since when has swearing been restricted to the young and hip? I'm 40 and assure you that my informal colloquial speech involves plenty of "pissed", "twat" and worse, and I intend to continue to do so until I reach my Henry Allingham years!
One word he doesn't mention: "flipping"
[info]robertclondon wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:06 am (UTC)
Probably did it to distract from the lack of principles or ideas.

What about your "flipping" front benchers, Osborne, Gove and Lansley, eh Cameron.

Oops, I used a rude word. Sorry!
Twit for Tw-t
[info]ninsim wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 08:09 am (UTC)
What a lot of fuss about nothing. He was possibly thinking of his political opposite number at the time in which case his choice of words was very mild.
Cameron the blue leader
[info]letstalkmore wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 10:11 am (UTC)
This was clearly pre-meditated and I don't think Dave has done himself many favours here. Good blog post on this here http://tinyurl.com/nrmkoy
Tough Times Ahead
[info]chipmem1 wrote:
Thursday, 30 July 2009 at 11:03 am (UTC)
Might call for a more radical PM,
Someone that can take unpopular decisions.

Shame we didn't get to find out what some of these policies will be.

How right wing is Dave Cameron really ?

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