We got it wrong on immigration, says Johnson
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The Home Secretary admitted yesterday the Government had made serious mistakes over immigration and in the aftermath of the 7 July bombings. Alan Johnson confessed Labour had been "maladroit" in its handling of immigration and accepted ministers had ignored for "far too long" the problems that led to a backlog of 450,000 unprocessed claims.
Mr Johnson also acknowledged parts of Britain were struggling to cope. In his first speech on the subject, he said: "There are communities which have been disproportionately affected by immigration, where people have legitimate concerns about the strain that the growth in the local population has placed on jobs and services."
He argued progress was being made, saying: "While I accept that governments of both persuasions, including this one, have been maladroit in their handling of this issue, I do believe that the UK is now far more successful at tackling immigration than most of its European and North American neighbours."
His comments mark a striking change of tone. Only recently, Mr Johnson insisted he did not "lie awake at night" worrying about Britain's population reaching 70 million. The Home Secretary also conceded that some anti-terror proposals, such as the detention of suspects for up to 90 days without trial, had gone too far. "That probably was an understandable feeling: that we should be more draconian. But perhaps that wasn't the right way to go," he said.
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I cant even be bothered trying to 'debate' the truth of his and his party's admissions of failure
as it is so painfully 'in your face' if you visit London or it's close by counties. There are virtually no indigenous people left to see or talk to. Everywhere you go it's foreigners you deal with.
I feel so sorry for the local Brits who are being pushed out of their own land and jobs and culture.
Its a sin what this Govt has allowed to happen if you want to see more detail visit the BNP website
and have a look at their vids. about the so called ethnic MINORITY that's such a load of cr*p
it is no minority when even as a visitor you feel you are either in Asia or Africa.
If Johnson ever gets to be Prime Minister, he will have to live into his nineties at least, because Labour will all but disappear come the next GE for generations. For him to get there sooner, he would have to murder the un-elected Brown whilst no one is looking, to get the job any sooner...
Of course, nothing will change if it works, and they get in. Nor, I suspect, will anything change if the Tories get in. It may well be that the problem's too big for either of them.
And, in any case, I doubt that the will is really there.
Stlll, the brown is clearly starting to mark the trousers. Long overdue ...
i agree completely.
Dave1234567890 mass immigration is a deliberate New Labour policy and still is. See this recent article in the Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop
Or search the web using the key words New Labour mass immigration policy.
Alan Johnson has recently showed on TV in the recent row with scientific advisors that he totally unfit for office. He is emotional and lacks the ability of rational thought. What is he? An ex post office worker trapped in a world of tunnel vision. He is not unlike the rest of this New Labour dictatorship with its none elected PM. While we have this first past the post system, then we will always have a breeding ground for one party dictatorships and New Labour Bunker politics. The Lib Dems have the right idea with PR.
I am afraid Dave whatever Johnson or New Labour tries to tell you none of it is credible and their spin will not work anymore. Truth and honesty are not words they can spell.
Only this weekend custom and immigration officers were complaining that the new points based immigration system that New Labour claimed would be a success is another total failure. Immigration officials are now virtually powerless to refuse bogus students, since immigration visas are now verified (or rather not) in the country of origin. In fact the new points based immigration system is yet another clandestine New Labour mass immigration scam.
I have friends in IT who are mostly all unemployed. The bulk of the work permit visas go to foreign (none EEC) IT workers. It has been approximately 23,000 IT work permits, per year and every year since 2000. New Labour claimed to have tightened this up. By requiring that a company must advertise a job locally for 4 weeks rather than two. They also have to pay a minimum salary of 20,000 pounds rather than 17,000 pounds. But most employers and IT recruitment companies do not bother following these rules, since no checks are ever made. They prefer to bring in cheaper foreign labour.
You ask why is New Labour so determined to run a mass immigration policy? The answer like you see it is very simple. The majority of immigrants vote New Labour.
The main problem with New Labour mass immigration policy is that it is bad for immigrants who settled here many years ago and, integrated OK and are not isolationists. The numbers arriving under New Labour meant that integration failed and this is negative for those who had integrated. So New Labour invented another failed policy called multiculturalism. Which simply put, meant that the desire to integrate was not required and neighbourhoods of separate ethnic groupings developed providing another to integration.
Dave New Labour will pay a heavy price at the next election. They face annihilation. That is why they will not call an election. They will cling to Bunker power to the very last day.
I would like the Lib Dems to do well and form any opposition government and New Labour to be caste in obscurity for decades. Which will probably be the case.
"I have friends in IT who are mostly all unemployed. ... They prefer to bring in cheaper foreign labour."
is so close to my heart. i have been in i.t. since i left school, more than twenty years ago. in the late 90s i saw a mass influx of foreign workers, mainly from outside the e.u. they were pretty much from australia, n.z. and s.a. because for them to come here (the U.K.) was easy and english their first language. they worked hard for the main but with one thing in mind, make as much money and bugger off home. they had no commitment to the u.k. and to paying it's taxes. so they worked hard and pissed off, naturally not paying their taxes and swanning it up in Oz etc. these people really got my back up and hence why i had to leave my home, the u.k. and work abroad. tony said "we have an i.t. shortage!", yeh, you've just killed the cash cow and with IR35. good luck new labour, you will squeeze the tax payer dry until blood runs from us!
Indeed, gerrymandering on a colossal scale, for sheer political gain, nothing else, which is one of the points made by thirdman 01. Also, see what this treachery leads to, see the post from msmint for example.
Capone's Chicago of the 20s was a cleaner , more wholesome place than the Westminster cesspit. And, even when, after many years of trying, they only got rid him on tax avoidence, even though he had personally organised the St. Valentine's Massacre in 1929, and murdered countless others. Over here, it seems that the "flippers", stamp duty avoiders etc etc are immune to all that, two fingers up to us all.
It will be interesting to see eventually how many of these fraudsters end up in court, if any. I think it is time for Mandelson to call an election now. To procrastinate, in the sad belief that things will get better for those cowering in the bunker, not only inflicts further damage to the UK - just as Hitler did in his bunker, and brought Germany down about his ears, to the detriment of millions of others - is a bad mistake. each day, almost, labour dig themselves further and further into the mire, witness the ex-postie Johnson debacle. So to believe it will get better by dragging this regime out to the last possible second, of the last possible day, is as fatuous as it is sadly futile.
Um, no, voting BNP actually only gets you the occasional neo-Nazi councillor, or even more occasionally neo-Nazi MEP, that doesn't actually do anything apart from look stupid on the news from time to time...bit of a wasted vote, really...
Guys, you must try harder
Peace & love
http://majorityrights.com/index.php/web
This is the true face of immigration: race-replacement. It is simply a crime against the real British people, and it cannot be allowed to stand. The MultiCult will have to be completely dismantled, and the country returned to its rightful owners. No other outcome will be just.
That means sweeping Johnson and his party and the racial Marxism in which he believes from British politics forever.
Most people like to score goals for whichever team they are playing for but he seems to have fully immersed himself into his latest manifestation.
My very good Greek friends in Britain are aware of this, and understand why.
They would never allow themselves to be overun in their own country.
They know that I am sincere when I say that colour is absolutely of no issue with me,as my whole belief is that if you come from a land nearer to the equator,you need more melancytes-hence a darker colour-or you fry.Its that simple.
For me its all about numbers-black or white or whatever colour.Don't believe the ONS figures,there are already about seventy million people occupying Britain.
Its all too late,and I doubt anything can be done to cure the situation.
And its no good just blaming labour,as the tories were at it also.
What will happen is that eventually the remaining white population (rightly or wrongly) will become so intimidated,and threatened,that white terrorism groups will appear.Add to this the pernicious effect of a changing world, where Britain is a less prosperous society,and all the ingredients are there for crisis.It will degenerate into a form of civil war,mirroring the balkans.
The dreamers out there will push the idea that we will all get along admirably.
We won't.
Put too many animals in a small space,and they kill each other.
I am encouraging my grown up children to emigrate.
My brother, and sister already live abroad.
I shall not be staying in this collapsing country for an awfull lot longer.
All you people,and your children, can look forward to here is violence,and destruction.
And i think a great deal of you know that in your hearts,regardless of the rhetoric about us all living peacefully cheek-by-jowl.
It is over-the die is cast.
They also have it wrong with the level of benefits being paid to the wrong people - not all people please note - but paying it to the wrong people leaves less for those who deserve them! Too many are paid to sit on their backsides at home doing nothing and actually make the choice that they are better off on benefits than working! How can that ever be?
Alan Johnson should resign and the next successful Government should have a two point Policy to get this Country on it's feet again:
(1) Control our Borders in a similar manner to Australia - lessons to be learned there....
(2) Put Ray Mallon in charge of the Police Force - Zero Tolerance is what we need to make our streets safe once more!
Within twelve months this Country would begin moving back towards sanity!
After all, it worked for Israel. We can even claim that precedent if we get stick from the UN and the "international community" ...
Search BNP: the true face of immigration.
Wembley high street on any given day.
And then make your own mind up.
100% bollocks: "The Home Secretary CLAIMED yesterday the Government had made serious mistakes (in other words: he dishonestly claimed that the basic discourse that immigration is a problem, which discourse was introduced to mainstream UK politics by none other than New Labour, is essentially correct)over immigration"
I don’t do faith and dogma Mr. Johnson, so PROVE IT. Tricky, huh, especially when you haven’t spent a nanosecond thinking about how you might measure it, let alone how you would define BETTER.
While you’re thinking about this, I’m off to vote for the BNP. ‘Coz never forget: The end justifies the means. Gordon Brown showed us so.
Second class male, you flatter the latest in a long line of Labour Home Secretaries...