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Libya in talks over cash for IRA victims

Tripoli says it may compensate families for its role in supplying arms to terrorists

By Daniel Howden in Tripoli

In the 1970s and 1980s, Libya, under Col Muammar Gaddafi, pictured in Tripoli yesterday, sent shipments of weapons and ammunition to the IRA

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In the 1970s and 1980s, Libya, under Col Muammar Gaddafi, pictured in Tripoli yesterday, sent shipments of weapons and ammunition to the IRA

Libya has hinted for the first time that it is considering compensating the families of IRA victims in recognition that it armed the terrorists. Colonel Muammar Gaddafi supplied arms and explosives to Irish republican paramilitaries during the Troubles and the recent release of the Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi, has seen renewed calls for an apology and compensation from Tripoli for its role in the IRA killings.

In a rare interview with a top Libyan official yesterday, the deputy minister for foreign affairs indicated that the IRA compensation claims were part of on-going discussions between Tripoli and London and that they could be approaching some form of agreement.

Asked what was happening with the claims, Mohammed Siala, the Secretary for International Co-operation, said: "It is a special case. We have a good understanding with the UK."

However, Mr Siala suggested that families may still have a wait ahead of them, adding: "Things have not matured yet."

Last week's release of Megrahi has sparked a storm of protest in the US and UK, with the British Government fending off accusations that it handed him over in return for lucrative oil and gas deals from Libya. Both sides have denied any deal. However, the revelation that the Government had declared Megrahi's release to be in the UK's "overwhelming interest" two years ago has heaped pressure on London.

The Libyan minister also said that any prospect of progress in bringing the killer of WPC Yvonne Fletcher to justice would depend on co-operation from the British Government over allegations that MI6 endorsed an assassination attempt on Col Gaddafi.

Asked about repeated attempts to extradite Libyan suspects in Ms Fletcher's killing, Mr Siala replied by insisting that Britain "had tried to kill Gaddafi" in a botched bombing in 1996. "These two cases are linked together," said Mr Siala, who added there could be no progress on the investigation into the killing without new information on the alleged UK plot. "We're waiting for information from the UK," he said.

The constable was shot dead while policing a demonstration outside the Libyan embassy in London in 1984. The killing remains one of the biggest pieces of unfinished business between the two trading partners since diplomatic ties were restored.

Allegations that Britain funded a failed attempt by a Libyan Islamic extremist group on the Libyan leader's life were first made by a former MI5 agent, David Shayler, in 1998. The renegade spy alleged that a wing of MI6 endorsed a plot to kill Col Gaddafi but that agents placed explosives under the wrong car in the Libyan leader's motorcade in February 1996, killing six bystanders.

The then foreign secretary Malcolm Rifkind dismissed the claims and his Labour successor Robin Cook also denied the rogue agent's allegations.

Video: New footage of Megrahi

A British diplomat in Tripoli said yesterday that the matter had been thoroughly investigated already: "The Metropolitan Police found the claims to be baseless," he said. The Foreign Office (FCO) said in a statement: "We have assured Col Gaddafi that there was no British plot to assassinate him."

The Crown Prosecution Service shelved claims against two British agents in 2001 after a two-year investigation. The FCO also appealed to the Libyan leader to allow British police to return to the country for a fourth time to continue their inquiries into the Fletcher murder. It is understood that a chief suspect has been identified and has been the subject of "high-level talks" between the two countries.

In the 1970s and 1980s, Col Gaddafi became an international pariah with his sponsorship of terrorist organisations, whom he refers to as freedom fighters. During this period Libya sent several shipments of weapons and ammunition to the IRA which were used in a number of attacks in the UK.

Gordon Brown assured victims of Libyan-sponsored IRA attacks that he would do everything in his power to support the campaign for compensation at a meeting in Westminster in December last year.

In 2003 Libya paid out $2.7bn (£1.6bn) in compensation to the families of those killed on Pan Am flight 103 when it exploded over Lockerbie.

Since its recent return to the international fold, Libya has been involved in a series of complex compensation settlements both for its role in acts of terrorism and for crimes committed against it during the colonial era as well as losses sustained during US bombing raids in the 1980s. Italy has agreed to fund a €5bn (£4.4bn) North Africa highway, in part, as an apology for its colonial legacy in Libya.

Col Gaddafi's son, and his possible successor Saif al-Islam, who led several of these negotiations, has admitted that deals were cut to bring an end to painful economic sanctions.

However, the deputy foreign minister, Mr Siala, denied that a similar deal had been done to secure the release on compassionate grounds of Megrahi in return for lucrative oil and gas exploration rights on and off shore in Libya.

"It makes me laugh when people say a deal was done," he said. "The release has removed an obstacle that will help the further development of good relations between Libya and the UK. There is a difference between doing a deal with pre-arranged terms and developing relations," he added.

Mr Siala blamed the media for creating a storm over Megrahi's noisy reception when he returned to Libya last week which he described as "low-profile" by local standards. "To us it's very strange that you are so angry. He's a Libyan national who could die in a couple of days. He's now in hospital, where do you want him to be?"

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*During the 1970s and the 1980s, the IRA was one of a number of causes that received support from Libya. Other groups backed by Colonel Gaddafi included Eta and the Baader-Meinhof gang.

The supply of arms by Libya to the IRA was first discovered in 1973, when a merchant ship named the Claudia was seized. Its cargo contained 500 hand-grenades and 5,000lb of explosives.

Altogether at least four shiploads of eastern European weapons were delivered to the IRA. The Libyan regime claims shipments then ceased, but resumed again in 1986 after the Americans took off from British soil to bomb Tripoli (Colonel Gaddafi's adopted daughter was one of those killed in the attacks). In 1987 another consignment of weapons was captured on its way to the IRA from Libya, this time by the French authorities.

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Libya compensation for IRA victims
[info]greenylad wrote:
Monday, 31 August 2009 at 11:20 pm (UTC)
So who has the higher moral ground when the CIA have also been funding the IRA for years.
Re: Libya compensation for IRA victims
[info]redcliffe62 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 04:21 am (UTC)
I agree, more money came from the States than Libya when it came to supplying arms to the IRA and its offshoots.
Get Obummer to admit that, and he might have some credibility. As for Ted Kennedy, no loss to Britain there.
His visits with NORAID to Northern Ireland were always mired in mystery.
Re: Libya compensation for IRA victims
[info]redcliffe62 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 04:34 am (UTC)
I spent a bit of time in Northern Ireland in the late 70's, and I can tell you that what was going on with regard weapons supply and who they came from was sordid. Little attempt made to hide the sources on occasion.
The view seemed to be that if the RUC was targetted then that was fair game, whereas any attacks on civilians was frowned upon.
Whether Boston's finest understood the nuances of RUC, UDA, UVF and other splinter groups formed later such as the LVF I sincerely doubt. All they knew was that they were anti Catholic and that was good enough for them.
One needed two distinct accents to "walk" through Belfast, and learning the words of both national anthems also helped!
Re: Libya compensation for IRA victims
[info]proximaking wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 05:06 pm (UTC)
What about Eire where the government sat back for years and let the IRA manufacture bombs galore while it did nothing, absolutely nothing, about it? When will they be recompensing the victims?
Hanging out the dirty washing
[info]theprogramme wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 12:15 am (UTC)
About time too. Let's see more of this.

Peace.
Many of the fine Irish-American people of NY and Boston
[info]pinhut wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 01:42 am (UTC)
might want to contribute too, for all those whip-rounds for the Provos.
Re: Many of the fine Irish-American people of NY and Boston
[info]redcliffe62 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 04:21 am (UTC)
I agree, more money came from the States than Libya when it came to supplying arms to the IRA and its offshoots.
Get Obummer to admit that, and he might have some credibility. As for Ted Kennedy, no loss to Britain there.
His visits with NORAID to Northern Ireland were always mired in mystery.
Fair play to all
[info]brinksman wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 06:19 am (UTC)
Hopefully, this will open the gates for Irish victims of British terrorism in the North of Ireland. In all honesty, I doubt it. The British Government hasn't the same courage as the Libyan Government, and even to this day still deny the murderers and terrorists they controlled on the Unionist/Loyalists side.
Is Britain also going to compensate the dozens of countries it colonized and still does?
[info]djangovsartana wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 07:06 am (UTC)


Is Britain also going to compensate the dozens of countries it colonized and still does?
UK government compensating
[info]lightinguptime wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 07:43 am (UTC)
Britain, one of the worlds 5 biggest weapons producers, will be compensating the receivers of her horrific high-tech life terminating devices too?
IRA MURDERS
[info]rfarley wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 08:23 am (UTC)
It would be interesting to hear Colonel Gadaffi's views on awarding an honorary knighthood to one of the IRA's biggest fundraisers. I think even he would agree that to bestow such an honour on Kennedy was an insult to the relatives of the innocent soldiers and civilians murdered by the IRA - and also the relatives of the girl Kennedy left to die in his car.
Libya, Lockerbie, MI5 and the IRA
[info]porkylinda wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 09:51 am (UTC)
The extent of Libyan support for the IRA (evidenced by the seizure of the Eksund in October 1987 en route from Malta) is not a peripheral issue but central to understanding why the spooks fitted-up Mr Megrahi for the Lockerbie bombing.

The object of the indictment of the two Libyans in November 1991 was not a trial but sanctions against Libya. One of the demands made was that Libya "renounce support for the IRA and provide the UK Government with all information in that regard."

In the 1994 Dimbleby lecture Stella Rimington explained that the bulk of MI5's resources were devoted to combatting the IRA. In the lecture she claimed it was MI5 who "identified the two Libyan culprits" (I suspect by means of a professional fabricator.) This claim was expunged from the official transcript.

This may be thought of as laudable. However it means the real culprits were given a pass and that the authorities colluded in the Lockerbie bombing.

In talks of deals ect. the mainstream media miss the point of the prisoner transfer agreement - both parties to the negotiations knew perfectly well Mr Megrahi had nothing to do with Lockerbie.
Gadaffi
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 10:33 am (UTC)
He believes he can just bribe away his crimes.
Compensation for IRA Killings
[info]lanarksc wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 11:56 am (UTC)
On my web site on this article, there appears a picture of Ted Kennedy in connection with another story. I can't help but wonder if the Kennedy Clan is going to compensate the IRA Victims for their part in funding the IRA KILLERS?
Full Discription
[info]ehross wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 01:09 pm (UTC)
The lead should read Catholic terrorists.
All governments to right wrongs - fantastic!
[info]rjd8 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 01:14 pm (UTC)
So we are moving towards a world in which governments fess up to their wrong doings and then compensate the victims. Brilliant. But why not start with the big fry - the US's compensation of the 4million it killed in carpet bombing and chemical warfare in Vietnam, the hundreds of terrorist insurgencies it supported in South America attempting and succeeding to overthrow popular left wing governments, not to mention the hundreds of thousands killed in an illegal war in Iraq. Seeing as we're dealing specifically with arms shipments, there's the shipments that took place in December 2008 used to butcher close to 2000 women and children in Gaza. And how do you place a monetary value on 30 years of lost democracy as a result of arranging a coup in Iran in 1953 (which the US president has not publically admitted to)? Then Britain could compensate the inhabitants of Diego Garcia for unlawfully evicting them to make way for a US military base, to mention just one of HM's crimes against humanity. Wherever Uncle Sam is, his poodle is not far behind. There is a simple guiding moral principle governing relations between individual's and states which is simply this: What's good for us is good for them. We've invented the internet, nuclear weapons and a hadron collider (which admittedly doesn't work) but we can't grasp this basic fundamental pre-requisite of human relations.
Next
[info]had_it wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 05:01 pm (UTC)
Now if Boston would just do the same....
Oh, PS, how about the IRA and the UDF?
Compensation for victims of British arms
[info]nexus6223 wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 05:22 pm (UTC)
I wonder will the people of Britain decide to compensate the countless thousands of people all around the world who have died from British arms,not to mention at the hands of the British military,I guess there's one law for British and Americans and another for everyone else
Lesson
[info]beniruok wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 07:09 pm (UTC)
Let He or She who is from a country without sin, cast the first stone.
Reality Check
[info]repstones wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 09:10 pm (UTC)
@ Full Discription, actually there were protestant members of republican groups and catholic members of loyalist groups, this you would know f you lived here.

So does this mean Britian will compensate the Irish? Does it mean the USA will compensate the victims of the contras? Will ISrael compensate the mayan victims of Guatemalan death squads? Is it only the arab nations who will be made to pay for their sponsorship?
Reality check
[info]repstones wrote:
Tuesday, 1 September 2009 at 09:11 pm (UTC)
@ Full Discription, actually there were protestant members of republican groups and catholic members of loyalist groups, this you would know f you lived here.

So does this mean Britian will compensate the Irish? Does it mean the USA will compensate the victims of the contras? Will ISrael compensate the mayan victims of Guatemalan death squads? Is it only the arab nations who will be made to pay for their sponsorship?
Will our American friends be doing this too?
[info]rustyroosterfan wrote:
Thursday, 3 September 2009 at 07:31 am (UTC)
Since 9-11 taught them how bad terrorism is, and since their people joined Libya in helping fund the IRA, will the USA be making reparations too?
British Murder Gangs
[info]matt_91912113 wrote:
Friday, 4 September 2009 at 09:09 pm (UTC)
So will the British government be compensating victims of British death squads in Northern Ireland? The UVF, UDA, UFF, LVF, UDR, Red Hand Commandos and the British Army who were collectively responsible for more civilian deaths than the IRA were during the troubles??

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