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Don't target Muslims, troops told

US Army chief of staff hits back in wake of Fort Hood massacre that left 13 dead

By Guy Adams in Los Angeles

Nidal Hasan

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Major Nidal Hasan is suspected of killing 13 people last week

The Fort Hood massacre could lead to an ugly "backlash" against the 3,000 Muslims who serve in the US Army, its chief of staff warned yesterday. General George Casey toured breakfast TV studios to emphasise that the mass shooting, in which 13 died and 29 were wounded, must not be used to excuse discrimination against ethnic and religious minorities in the Armed Forces. Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the 39-year-old army psychiatrist accused of last Thursday's atrocity, had yelled "Alahu Akbar" as he opened fire on his fellow-soldiers.

"I'm concerned [about] a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers and I've asked our army leaders to be on the lookout for that," he said. "Our diversity, not only in our army, but in our country, is a strength. As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that's worse."

Army CID investigators have said there was no evidence that Major Hasan, in hospital recovering from four bullet wounds, was part of a wider terrorist conspiracy. Evidence from his computer, together with family interviews, suggest that he acted alone. Psychological problems also appear to have contributed to the attack. The suspect was ideologically opposed to the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, which he had referred to as part of "a war on Islam", and he had been desperate to avoid an imminent posting to the Middle East, The New York Times reported. He was also emotionally scarred from his counselling work.

Major Hasan had recently contributed to extremist internet forums. But there is no evidence that he had contact with a known terrorist. Neither did the mass shooting seem designed to advance a specific political agenda.

He is under armed guard in hospital in Texas. Yesterday, he was taken off a ventilator. If he survives, prosecutors say he is likely to face prosecution in the military rather than civilian courts.

The independent Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman has announced that he intends to lead a government investigation into the incident, to get to the bottom of suggestions that the army missed "strong warning signs" that Major Hasan was a potential threat. He once had links to the Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, whose extremist iman, Anwar al-Awlaki, has been banned from preaching in the UK for endorsing attacks on British troops.

Newspaper reports said the mosque was attended by two of the 9/11 hijackers. But its influence on Major Hasan's recent behaviour seems open to debate: there is no evidence that he had visited it for some years.

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Tolerance
[info]fwdinsight wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 12:59 am (UTC)
Tolerant are both the Americans and British. Byt this is a whole new ball of wax.
Worried about a backlash?
[info]hippydroog wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 01:30 am (UTC)

Should they put me in charge of training Afghan policemen, the first thing I'd do is confiscate all their guns and ammunition. Then I'd have them watched by armed guards 24 hours a day.

In the case of Muslim psychiatriatrists, I'd sit at the furthest end of the hall.

Better safe than sorry.
1939/1945
[info]geo32 wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 08:35 am (UTC)
When the US entered the second world war they interned every single Japanese person.

Tolerance? Retaliation? This is America we are talking about! We must remember that the US has the largest collection of trigger happy rednecks and nutters in the world so all I can say is if you are a Muslim in the US either emigrate or find a bunker.
SUICIDE = ESCAPE ... MURDER DOESN'T.
[info]misterbull wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 11:16 am (UTC)
THIS SICK RELIGIOUS PIG CHOSE TO MURDER PEOPLE. IF HE WAS SO HUNG UP, HE SHOULD HAVE PUT A BULLET THROUGH HIS OWN HEAD. SO HOW CAN WE ACCEPT WHAT HE DID WAS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A RELIGIOUS KILLING. I BELIEVE THESE ARE RELIGIOUS WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN... DESIGNED TO BRING IGNORANT PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE RELIGIOUS RUBBISH THEY HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED WITH. IF IT IS A WAR AGAINST RELIGION, I FULLY SUPPORT IT. ALL OUR STUPID OUTDATED RELIGIONS AND FAIRY STORIES SHOULD BE PRACTICED IN PRIVATE, NOT GIVEN A PLACE ON THE WORLD STAGE.
NOT ACTING ALONE
[info]misterbull wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 11:23 am (UTC)
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS MAN WAS ACTING ALONE.
IF WHAT IS SAID IS TRUE, HE ACTED WITH SOME MISGUIDED BELIEF IN GOD.
I GUESS HE WAS NOT WELL.
LIKE MILLIONS OF OTHERS WHO HAVE AN UNSHAKEABLE BELIEF IN FAIRY STORIES.
ITS A HUMAN TRAGEDY.
Re: NOT ACTING ALONE
[info]find_empire wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 12:10 pm (UTC)
You would be right. No way does anyone fire 200 rounds unopposed in a building packed with rip-roaring troops ready to be deployed to the stans. That's 10 reloads. The press has at least one report of an attempt to rush Hassan when he was reloading. The breaking stories had reports of M-16's, two other gunmen detained (later released) and SWAT members being wounded. All of that was scrubbed. Wherever you look now there's only the approved, sanitized lone-nut, magic-bullet version. You won't see a single shot of the crime scene, not a single diagram, not even a timeline. All this and we end up with just one little old Muslim psychiatrist with a 20-round handgun?

It all stinks to the high heavens. Not only do the 200 rounds and the pile of victims strongly suggest some grassy knoll shooters who subsequently disappeared (released by the cops as were the rail yard "hobos" of Dallas 1963) but Hasan himself, acting normally until the last minute, looks suspiciously like a victim of a Pentagon microwave mind-control weapon, patented in the 2002.

Why would the US military pull of such a stunt, a 9-11 against itself? No doubt to shore up the flagging support for the war and put pressure on Obama, who is leaning towards Joe Biden's plan for cutting a deal with the Talibs, to send more troops to the stans.

The baa-baa sheep will of course inevitably go through the required ritual of flag-waving, praying, moaning, and cursing Muslims, without stopping for a single second to think. It's been that way since time immemorial, long before Goebbels came out and openly admitted how easy it was to scare the masses into doing whatever you wanted.
Re: NOT ACTING ALONE
[info]find_empire wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 03:09 pm (UTC)
Fox news has a (sort of) timeline. The guy starts shooting at 13:30 CT and everybody ducks behind 5-foot cubicles and desks, where they are supposedly hit by "ricochets". He is jumped by one guy while he reloads and manages to shoot him in the leg while others run out to call the cops. The woman cop arrives "three minutes later" and guns him down.
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Let's be generous and give Hasan 10 minutes. 200 rounds with a 20-round gun, 12 killed, 30 wounded in 10 minutes? What do they take us for, complete morons?
Yellow Journalism
[info]mt_granite wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 04:55 pm (UTC)
The Independent is passing off rumors and speculation as facts.

1. The FBI has yet to verify if those "internet postings" were indeed made by him.

2. Casey has stated that there doesn't seem to be any link to terrorism.

3. Attending a mosque that two of the alleged 9/11 hijackers had attended is guilt by association. You seem to forget that Major Hasan was born and raised in the Virginia area where the mosque is located. So that makes your argument even more specious.

This is what passes for journalism now days, half truths and speculation? Besides, who cares what a self-absorbed hack thinks about all this? Has LIEberman ever served in the US armed forces? Or does he merely prefer to use them to advance Israel's goals in the Middle East?
Don't blame him ...don't blame the religion
[info]worried_1 wrote:
Monday, 9 November 2009 at 10:36 pm (UTC)
Blame the governments they allowed that to happen since they thought muslims are like everyone else ... NO THEY ARE NOT... if you don't believe me pretend to be a muslim for an hour and enter a mosque at noon time on a friday and listen to the speech. I hope you guys wake up before it is too late... I am a muslim by the way so I actually know what I am talking about

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