Tensions grow as Chavez masses troops on border
Threat of bloodshed as Venezuelan president tells his people to prepare for war with Colombia
Telling his people, "If you want peace, prepare for war," and accusing the US of secretly plotting to invade and seize Venezuela's oil reserves, Hugo Chavez announced that he intends to send 15,000 troops to his country's border with Colombia.
The hostile move, which has inflamed diplomatic relations across the region, saw the left-wing president urge his soldiers to "defend this sacred nation called Venezuela" against what he called a creeping right-wing "empire". In response, Colombia said it would complain to the United Nations.
"Fellow military personnel, let's not waste a day on our main aim: to prepare for war, and to help the people prepare for war, because it is everyone's responsibility," he said in a televised speech. "We are going to train military groups, revolutionary students, employees, women... The best way to avoid war is preparing for it."
The comments come amid growing tension between Mr Chavez and his neighbour's right-wing president, Alvaro Uribe, who has close political ties to Washington and who last month signed a military co-operation pact with the US.
Under that deal, American forces will occupy seven military bases in Colombia for at least the next decade, ostensibly to fight drug traffickers who control much of the region's cocaine trade. However, Mr Chavez seems convinced that the move sets the stage for a sudden invasion of his homeland.
"The empire is settling right under our noses," he told viewers of his Sunday talk show, Alo, Presidente, claiming that one of the US bases would be "20 minutes" away from Caracas (which is possibly the case, but only via supersonic jet). "Don't make a mistake, Mr Obama," he warned the US president, "by ordering an attack against Venezuela by way of Colombia."
Posturing by Mr Chavez normally causes little alarm as it has become so common. In his televised Sunday speeches to the nation, which sometimes last several hours, he has recently railed against enemies as diverse as the Catholic church and the "bourgeois" sport of golf.
However, the recent speech is being taken more seriously, since tensions have been growing between the two nations for years and recently spilled over into violence. A fortnight ago, the bodies of 11 Colombian men were found dumped over the border. Aides to Mr Chavez claimed they were paramilitaries who had been killed while training to mount a coup against him.
In October, Venezuela announced that it had arrested several Colombian spies on its soil. Two months earlier, when Bogota signed its pact with Washington, Mr Chavez announced that the "winds of war" were blowing across the region, and unveiled a series of trade tariffs against the neighbouring country, which is, in normal circumstances, one of his leading trading partners.
Against this backdrop, regional analysts are concerned at the build-up of troops on the border, saying that the smallest spark could now lead to widespread bloodletting. Venezuela has in recent years spent more than $3bn (£1.8bn) on weapons, leading the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, to warn against an "arms race" developing in the region.
Mr Chavez, who spent much of his early career in the armed forces , laid on the bellicosity in his latest speech, addressing it to "all commandants", and delivering it in front of rows of saluting army officers.
In response President Uribe issued a statement insisting that the US presence in Colombia, which has been criticised by many other regional governments, was purely aimed at helping it fight the battle against the drug trade. He insisted his country had no intention of attacking its neighbour.
"Colombia has not made nor will it make any bellicose move towards the international community, (and) even less so towards fellow Latin American nations," he said. "The only thing we are interested in is defeating terrorism related to drug trafficking, which has been so unfair to Colombians for so many years."
He called for "frank dialogue" with Mr Chavez, adding, "faced with these threats of war by the government of Venezuela, the government of Colombia is considering going to the Organisation of American States and UN Security Council."
The dispute leaves the US in a tricky position. Washington sees Mr Uribe's regime as a buffer against the growing number of socialist governments in the region, but there is little appetite for American troops getting caught up in a fresh foreign conflict.
Fighting talk: an escalation
TIMELINE
Nov 2007: Colombia withdraws support for President Chavez as mediator between Farc (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) guerrillas and Colombian government.
Jan 2008: Chavez calls Uribe 'liar', 'coward' and 'pawn of the US empire' .
March 2008: Venezuela expels Colombian diplomats and orders army to border after Colombia invades Ecuador in pursuit of Farc guerrillas. Colombia claims that Ecuador and Venezuela ignore the presence of the guerrillas on their territory. Chavez calls Uribe 'a mob boss'.
July 2009: Chavez withdraws ambassador from Bogota after US announces plan to expand military presence in Colombia. Chavez denies 'arming any guerrilla or armed group' and says US plans to turn Colombia into 'the Israel of Latin America.'
Oct 2009: Chavez threatens to reduce trade with Bogota, worth $7bn in 2008, 'to zero'. Colombia appeals to WTO.
Nov 2009: Chavez orders his army 'to prepare for war' with Colombia, 'in order to preserve peace.'
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If they were serious about stopping drugs they would stop the poppy growing in Afghanistan instead they told the troops to guard it so the farmers and warlords get their drug money.
They are after Chevez and his people because they will not bend to their will. The US has destabilized Government s for years. They are sick in that department. They don't like real democracy. They don't like real elections. they like election like the one in Afghanistan. Today I was reading a report that the US pressured the other candidate to resign as opposed to running in the planed run off election.
This is typically what the US does. http://wp.me/p4271-1w9
Do they want the oil in Venezuela you bet your bippy they do. They want to control the world.
Check out their army bases around the world. http://shadowsbearsoutlook.blogspot.c
Comparably to Afghanistan, the US is the only country currently prepared to recognise the necessarily unfair "elections" promoted by the coup regime in Honduras, since this safely castrates chances for any genuine democratic progress in the country as far as the elections are concerned.
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dont you understand english or something ?
The USA finds a small country to use as a proxy, and then arms them to the teeth. Then they claim that the country they intend to attack is the aggressor?? USA has been arming Colombia for months - and placing those arms in strategic locations intended to attack Venezuela.
-For years. It is or was the second largest recipient of US military "aid" after Israel, as I recall.
344 US House of Representatives voted to condemn the Goldstone report on Israel /Gaza War http://wp.me/p4271-1xO
But sometimes, even the smartest Israeli James Bond can make clumsy mistakes. There was a report about a female Israeli Mata Hari on some "project" in Colombia around two or three years back, who lost her handbag (and presumably her ID and her ..how to-and-what to-do manual ) while traveling on a local bus.
P.s. There was no further news report on what happened to her after that slip. Was the "project" nevertheless successful? Maybe we'll still find out when she writes her memoir one of these days.
I was lead to believe that the US with it's NATO allies were fighting the mother of all battles against the Taliban, to save us from terrorists.
Now the US is telling us it has troops to spare to fight the war on drugs in Colombia.
But wait a second, I was told that the taliban are going to kill us all in our beds, funded by drug money.
So are the Colombian drug dealers going to kill us all in our beds too?
If so should Gordon be sending troops too.
I'm confused, on many levels here.
Seen as the troops are going for at least ten years, it means the war on drugs won't be ending soon.
Apart from that nonsense what will US troops be able to do that the Colombians can't do already?
Colombia already has a huge and well equiped army trained by the US.
I tought the person writing this report might have asked that, but that would be the job of a journalist and not a pr person I supose.
They also forgot to mention that the US has tried and failed to depose Chaves already and want to do it again. I know it's hard to remember these small details.
"Hugo Chavez announced that he intends to send 15,000 troops to his country's border with Colombia."
The Colombian field Army is over ten time that amount , so it's hardly an invasion force.
"Venezuela has in recent years spent more than $3bn (£1.8bn) on weapons, leading the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, to warn against an "arms race" developing in the region."
How much has Colombia spent and when did it buy it and how much was given to it and by who?
Did it start an arms race? That's ignoring the fact that the US is in the region too and it has more weapons than you can shake a stick at.
Guy Adams, I admire your unwillingness to adressa a subject in a balanced manner.
Apart from that you suck.
YOU THINK YOU ARE THE WORLDS POLICE.. WHEN YOUR OWN NATION SUCKS DICK... THEN YOU WONDER WHY YOUR WORLD TRADE CENTRES WERE SMASHED DOWN,
YOU YANKS DO THE DUMBEST AND MOST HYPOCRITICAL THINGS.
ALL THE WHILE, SELLING ARMS TO THESE PEOPLE...
YOU ARE KNOWN TO LIE... AND GO IN AND UNDERMINE GOVERNMENTS.. THIS COULD EASILY BE A REPEAT OF YOUR PAST EXPLOITS.
YOU ARE NOT A 'SUPER' POWER... YOU ARE A GROSS LET-DOWN TO HUMANITY
Oh, Mr Chavez seems convinced, does he eh? Mr Guy Adams the journalist seems convinced that insinuation is a valid substitute for the merest glance at the evidence.
Here is a link to the US airforce document that in passing mentions some of the real intentions for the Colombian bases "ostensibly" as Adams says, to fight guerillas (not paramilitaries, mind) and drug trafficking ONLY WITHIN COLOMBIA.
http://www.centrodealerta.org/documento
It is a long document but contains significant sections. Considering that Uribe has taken great pains to lie to the remaining Latin American countries (IT IS NOT JUST VENEZUELA, EVEN LESS, ONLY HUGO CHAVEZ, WHO ARE LIVID ABOUT THIS) that the intention is to conduct "legitimate" operations only within Colombia, the following should ring loud alarm bells:
"Access to Columbia [sic-evidently those drafting have heard of "Columbia" in the US but not too familiar with something called "Colombia" in Latin America] will further its strategic partnership with the United States. The strong security cooperation relationship also offers an opportunity for conducting full spectrum operations throughout South America to include mitigating the Counternarcotics capability [note the "include"]"
Eva Gollinger has further analysed it on her blog since making this public the other day:
http://www.chavezcode.com/2009/11/break
"Development of this CSL will further the strategic partnership forged between the U.S. and Columbia (sic) and is in the interest of both nations, and improves the U.S. ability to respond rapidly to crisis, and ASSURING REGIONAL ACCESS AND PRESENCE. A presence will also increase our capability to conduct Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR), improve global reach, support logistics requirements, improve partnerships, improve theater security cooperation, and EXPAND EXPEDITIONARY WARFARE CAPABILITY" [My shouting emphasis]
deal? ....we'll agree if you're willing to.........etc.? The world hopes not. Colombia's President Urribe isn't exactly the man to make a partnership with because of his questionable role in massacres in his country.
and cannot be modified until the end of every period - with a one-year prior notice. Among the seven bases handed over to the U.S. are naval ones, where American aircraft carriers and warships can make their "visits" to the country, with as large a crew the U.S. sees fit...that can be thousands of marines in only ONE of a large aircraft carrier. What would be the significance of that?
Furthermore, it stands to reason, that, not only Colombian airbases will be in U.S. hands, but also civilian airports and any other facility that may be useful to the armed forces.
What happens when under an agressive future U.S. administration takes power? The world has seen many a past example when the U.S. could get rid of a country's legitimate leader when he doesn't happen to be "their" man.
Senor Urribe, you have done your country and people, and the rest of the world a disservice.
One can only hope your action won't bring grief to everyone, but especially to your long-suffering folk.
And while "chasing" drug traffickers, who probably go back and forth over the jungle borders that separate Venezuela and Colombia, would the U.S. soldiers follow in hot pursuit? That said, , then they would be on sovereign Venezuelan territory....and one thing leads to another. The problem won't only be if the boa constrictor the marines comes across with, slithering around ... is a Colombian boa constrictor, or a Venezuelan one!
The oil in Venezuela, Brazil and others, along with the deals with the Chinese are the points of attack. The USA is on the way down. It is merely trying to protect its interests with their usual tactics. CIA terrorism in nothing new in this part of the world. This is a CIA operational move to cover their "backyard".
Henri
There is no way the USA wants another war and certainly with Obama in power there is no appetite to do anything of which Chavez is accusing them. The only thing I do agree with in some of these comments is that it would be much better to legalise drugs.
Where did you get your information from? The Sun or Fox?
Chavez is a democratically elected leader, you may not agree with his policies but he has widespread support in his contry.
The USA unfortunately has an abysmal track record in South America in terms of propping up dictatorships (any dictator is good as long as he is my dictator) and overthrowing democratically elected governments (remember Chile?)
It is widely accepted that the USA have tried to engineer at least one plot to overthrow him.
You should therefore not be surprised that he mistrusts their intentions.
Venezuela is not the only South American country which mistrusts the USA. Bolivia is rightly wary of their intentions.
The USA has the potential to be a force for good in the world but it would appear that its corporate and military interests frequently override this.
The point I am trying to make is that most of the contributors to this thread seem to thin kChavez is the best thing since sliced bread and the USA is the Great Satan .
Chavez has been bad news for Venezuela the country is NOW badly run, undemocratic , militaristic ( billions spent on weapons )and his support is declining so he now turns to foreign adventures to bolster his support via nationalistic fervour.
The USA under Obama is very unlikely to interfere with Chavez leadership though they will almost certainly come to Colombia's aid if Chavez attacks.
The US and Uribe have run a concerted campaign to 'reassure' Latin American leaders throughout the region, claiming the bases are for use within Colombia only, for what they state are 'legitimate' purposes only.
Reading an actual policy document presented before the US congress (a link to which I posted above) clearly shows they want to use Colombia's bases as a foothold to launch varied regional military operations, and exposes their claims as fraudulent.
Hugo Chavez could be Dr.Shipman, but that would not change these facts, in addition to the crucial factor that just about every South American country has expressed dismay at the proposed bases, not just Argentina, not just Brazil, not just Venezuela, not just Hugo Chavez[...]
What is "anti-USA" about concern for Latin American independence? Please consider similar statements by those who feel condemnation of the invasion of Georgia is no more than "anti-Russian" rhetoric.
"The army needs YOU!" And good luck.
Daft statement typical of anti-USA sentiment on this thread. I am not Colombia's protector but I do believe that Chavez is not someone you want on your side , he is no paragon of virtue and has done / is doing immense harm to his country economically and democratically . His support is waning and he is trying either by imprisonment of opponents ( allied with torturing them once arrested ) and closing down critical media to hang onto power. THis is not enough so like many a dictator ( even if initially elected ) before him , he is turning to foreign bogey men as a means of hanging on.
True that Chavez still changed the constitution to stay as president, but a bloodthirsty dictator he's not.
If torture and secret killings are his trademark, you and of course, the anti-Chavez media would have been crowing about it incessantly without end.
If some people in Venezuela complain about their leader, it's because at times, articles aren't always available in shops, but people aren't exactly starving, especially NOT the masses. Rather the elite in
Venezuelan society grumble when their favourite perfume is out of stock, or some other preferred article. However, they aren't starving either----the last time I was in Caracas, parties still take place as always, and life is still sweet for the privileged class. And oh yes, they can still travel to wherever they please, just like the good old days!
One of his assessors is Pablo Escobar-the infamous drugs dealer- cousin.
The interior minister's brother- regional prosecutor- is currently being investigated due to relationship with drug lords.
More than 2000 extrajudicial killings -coutry aand poor men killed by the army in order to show to the public that they were killing guerrillas.
permanent abuse of human rights and constant harrasment on NGOs that work in Colombia .
Constant harrasment by the regime to the Supreme Court which is trying to investigate officials, politicians involved in paramilitary agreements, etc
And the catalogue of misscunduct of this regime continues. So the readers can imagine why the americans have managed to settle down in South America?
The are on drugs and terrorism are both fake lines they feed the public. The CIA has been cause numerous time for being the drug runners. They use the money to fund militants to help take over other countries. I guess they are making a killing on the Heroin in Afghanistan so now they can do more damage in South America like they haven't already done enough or killed enough innocent people there.
This is old hat nothing new but the US are a greedy lot and Obama has let down the world and the US.
He almost had the respect of the US again and now it is being lost.
When 344 vote against the Goldstone report you know there is too much Israeli support. Way to much. How would we all like to live in Gaza?
Of course, he may just get it.
The Colombians want payback for El Jefe's support for serial killers FARC.
Over in Colombia you can shower all day and their president is also still (we think) very popular and the overwhelming peoples choice.
Now, I wonder who will invade who? I see the usual useful idiots are already doing the groundwork for some new cretin narratives that show how Chavez starting a war will be the attacked persons fault. And then no one will notice the lights going out in Caracas.
And now, Urribe wets his pants, and has to call Uncle Sam to protect him and his corrupt way of life -
and of course, his corrupt government. If a war in that region would take place, we can be certain
Urribe with the ever-usual U.S. armed forces support would start it. One just has to look in the quite recent tragic past of entire Latin America to see why Presidente Chavez is jumpy...understandably.
I take it, you're one of the very privileged ones, I know the region.
The problem for you as I see it is that whilst both Mr Chavez and Mr Uribe started out with large majorities of public support and both are now reaching the end of their constitutionally allowed terms of elected office, Mr Uribe remains with a large majority of public support and despite much pressure to do so, has yet as I understand it to amend the constitution to allow his re-election, whereas Mr Chavez has fast falling, though still majority, support and he has amended the constitution to permit his publically stated desire to be leader for decades to come.
Maybe this has something to do with the fact that Mr Chavez has, during a period of untold wealth for oil exporters, produced an economy falling to pieces, though the pieces are well distributed to the poorest of course. Mr Uribe in contrast has produced a booming economy and rising standards of living for all has he not?
So, as is the awful cycle in such matters, a populist leader who becomes a dictator who, of course, messes everything up, needs a distraction so the voters can blame someone else for the mess he has caused and rally to his cause to defend poor old Venezuela.
You see Venezuela's income comes almost totally from oil exports, almost all of which are sold to the United States at global (cartel) prices.
I agree the US meddles in S American politics. In this case however Mr Chavez is I suggest hard pressed to find any actual evidence of impending invasion, or even late payment of the billions the US pays Venezuela every month. There is a reason someone coined the phrase "useful idiots" you see. Mr. Chavez knows this. Why be his chump? You don't have to be a US loving good old boy if you do you know, there is the entire real world of the middle ground to choose from.
As far as opposition to Mr. Urribe, that would be foolhardy. If one's intention is to demonstrate on the streets - which is still possible in Venezuela without reprisals under Chavez - you have to bid farewell from your family because they'll never see the likes of you again. I don't think I have to add to that.
For you information , the latest poll carried out in Colombia and which result came out just this week, senor Uribe's popularity is falling to 62 %. the Colombians also rated his performance in terms of the economy management and corruption control 52%. This figures are showing that the population is already opening their eyes and rejecting this regime. According a popular and well regarded newspaper-El espectador- and weekly magazines-revista Semana and revista cambio-senor Uribe's corrupt goverment is now involved in another episod of corruption. This is to do with the way the Agricultural affairs ministery gave away huge amounts of tax payers money in the form of no returning grants to the most rich landowners of the Northern part of Colombia (Costa Atlantica). Investigaors concluded that the beneficiaries were friends of the president and donnors to the referendum campain. In other words, the regime is paying back to these people by using public money .
In addition to this , some of this beneficiaries were paramilitaries relatives or simply drug lords.
When you say"
Uribe in contrast has produced a booming economy and rising standards of living for all has he he not?
Yes ,he as some other regimes-Egypian for example- has produced an economy that has always fvoured the rich.At present there are 22 milllion poor in Colombia out of 46 million inhabitants. There are also 8 million living under extreme poverty. These are the latest figures, even aknowledged by the goverment!. So during the 8 year regime all what Colombians have achieved is povrty and deprivation. Just go to the outskirts of all the mayor cities-Bogota,cali, Medellin- and see blatant poverty!! let alone the rural areas of the country.
Now , people may be wondering if all is negative about this regime why is it so popular? simply because the levels of poverty dont allow poor people to get education so no chances to read , no idea about internet or newspapers to get informed make their own minds. The only information the people in the country side and in general the poor is what the propaganda media -RCN, CARACOL, EL COLOMBIANO, EL TIEMPO,ETC- tell them.
On the other hand and according to well respected journalists ,even the companies that run some of the polls arre biased and consequently have inflated the figures. This is to create a psychologic efect on people .
I certainly don't think Colombia is some paragon of virtue. But Chavez has created an almighty mess that is sadly only going to get worse. You see its not that I want Chavez to fail, such desire for others failures might be common these days but its not for me! I just see that he IS failing. And I fear that, as he fails, to protect the huge redistribution he has certainly carried out, it will be Chavez that starts war.
As for Uribe, I see you acknowledge his popularity but blame it on the electorate being duped. Well, I suppose most electorates are, not least Mr Chavez and his media domination and weekly marathon broadcasts. But cannot Colombians get internet access? Would opening some cafe's be banned in Colombia? Or maybe Colombians just actually do support Uribe, despite his corruption?
premature. Wishful thinking? The Yanks are already over the border with everything they need to make a coup - with Chavez' oilfields beckoning for the taking. We've seen that scenario before
and not too long ago. Mr. Chavez also happens to be a military man, so it's not surprising that he knows what's at stake for his country. He loves to make speeches and speak up his mind - tiring perhaps for listeners - but also forthright. In contrast, it's gullible to believe that the U.S. army in Colombia is just there to fight drug tr afficking and terrorism (obviously meaning the FARC). They won't admit it and just do things in a secretive and sneaky way as always...bad habit, we know.
The next thing, they'll be sitting on the oilfields and slurping it up. SURPRISE!!!!
As for the internal conditions in Urribe's First Reich, better have it out with "amocolombia". He or she knows better than us, living in that country from day to day and having to bear all that its citizens are subjected to. Lucky you, to live in Britain where you won't have to look over your shoulder if a paramilitarist is nearby, ready to make you disappear. Oh, one in every five Brits is said to support
and be wanting to vote for the BNP come election time. So you'll have the thrill of finding out for yourself what Colombians are, to date, deprived of.
Uribe sponsored paramilitaries have killed over 2,500 trade unionists and poor people, initially claiming they were FARC terrorists. Now Uribe is trying to cover up his murders by claiming the paramilitaries were paid a bounty to capture terrorists, so they killed anyone, then dressed them in terrorist uniforms.
The foreign policy of this US Adminstration is quite clear, they respect democratic governments.
However the CIA and some extreme right wing politicians are aiding and abetting right wing syndicates to destabilise the region.
She has been trying to persuade the State Department to back this totalitarian regime, even though the United Nations, OAS and all countries across the World refuse to accept the new junta.
It appears these 3 Republican extremists are backed by a right wing syndicate funded by Cuban and Venezuelan exiles, in trying to encourage Micheletti to hold fraudulent elections on November 29, to oust the democratically elected Socialist President.
USA also has a military base in Honduras.
They had been doing so to express their distaste with Obama's apparent rejection of the coup in Honduras, an apparent position they, along with most observers, agree has been reversed.
Since then, US envoy Craig Kelly has been sent to Honduras to broker something between the elected government and the usurpers; just what isn't known yet.
You know it should be "gangster's moll" but in this case, maybe "Mole" is appropriate?! -Very cute.
The "WAR ON DRUGS" Has been used as a cover for many coups and invasions before.
Chaves is wise to prepare for what he knows is coming.
They do not want this on their front door, and therefore will take advantage of the rising tentions to use Colombia to do their work for them in Venezuela.
The US seems to have a habbit of arming smaller countries to do their dirty work... then engaging in conflict with those countries a decade later...
Would've thought they would've learned by now. :S