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US denies 147 Afghan civilians killed

By Fisnik Abrashi, Associated Press

The US military says reports that as many as 147 civilians died in fighting involving American forces and the Taliban are "extremely over-exaggerated" and investigators were still analyzing the data collected at the site.

In the south, meanwhile, four NATO soldiers and 21 civilians died in a string of insurgent attacks, and an unmanned US drone crashed in central Ghazni province.

Officials said preliminary findings of the joint US-Afghan investigation into the deaths in the villages of Ganjabad and Gerani in the western Farah province could be released as early as Friday, but they have yet to schedule an announcement.

Reports of the large number of civilian deaths come at an awkward time for the Obama administration, as the US steps up its military campaign here while emphasizing the importance of nonmilitary efforts to stabilize the country.

A local official said that he collected from residents the names of 147 people killed during fighting on Monday night and Tuesday. If true, it would be the deadliest case of civilian casualties in Afghanistan since the 2001 US-led invasion that ousted the Taliban regime.

But the US military described that toll from the fighting as over the top.

"The investigators and the folks on the ground think that those numbers are extremely over-exaggerated," US military spokeswoman Capt. Elizabeth Mathias said. "We are definitely nowhere near those estimates."

Mathias said she could not yet provide estimates of how many people were killed as the team has yet to produce its findings.

Afghan residents say the destruction was from aerial bombing. US officials have suggested that at least some of the deaths were caused by insurgents, whom the military accuses of using civilians as human shields when fighting with its forces.

In a video obtained Friday by Associated Press Television News, villagers are seen wrapping the mangled bodies of some of the victims in blankets and cloths and lining them up on the dusty ground.

In one shot, two children are lifted from a blanket with another adult already in it. The children's faces are blackened, and parts of their tunics are soaked in what appears to be coagulated blood.

Their limp bodies are then put on the ground, wrapped in another cloth and put next to the other bodies. It was not clear how many bodies were in the room where the video was shot.

The man who shot the video said many of the bodies he filmed in the village of Gerani on Tuesday were in pieces. He spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of retribution from security agencies.

It was not possible to independently verify the authenticity of the video.

Investigators on Thursday visited the scene of the violence, where sobbing relatives showed them graves and the demolished buildings where they said the victims had sheltered.

"The joint investigators are back and they are all discussing what they found," Mathias said. "We are still corroborating."

President Barack Obama expressed sympathy over the loss of life in a White House meeting Wednesday with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who contends that such killings undermine support for the fight against resurgent Taliban militants.

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates, whose two-day visit in Afghanistan was overshadowed by the case, offered a new expression of US regret for the deaths but stopped short of taking blame.

"We regret any, even one, innocent civilian casualty and will make whatever amends are necessary," Gates said Thursday during a visit to the war zone. "We have expressed regret regardless of how this occurred."

Abdul Basir Khan, a member of Farah's provincial council who said he helped the joint delegation from Kabul with their examination Thursday, said he collected names of 147 dead — 55 at one site and 92 at another. Khan said he gave his tally to the Kabul team.

He said villagers told investigators that many of the dead were buried in mass graves of 20 or so people. Investigators did not exhume the bodies, according to Khan.

"They were pointing to graves and saying, 'This is my son, this is my daughter,"' Khan said.

Villagers said they gathered children, women and elderly men in several compounds near the village of Gerani to keep them away from the fighting, but that the compounds were hit by airstrikes. The International Committee of the Red Cross has also said that women and children were among dozens of dead people its teams saw in two villages.

But what happened remained a matter of dispute.

Three US defense officials, speaking anonymously, said Thursday that it is possible the investigators would find a mix of causes for the deaths — that some were caused by the firefight between the Americans and the Taliban, some by the US airstrike and some deliberately killed by Taliban fighters hoping US bombings would be blamed.

In southern Afghanistan, meanwhile, Nato said four of its soldiers died in a series of clashes and bombings.

Two of the alliance's soldiers died in a suicide attack in the southern Helmand province Thursday, Nato said in a statement. The blast also killed 21 civilians and wounded 23 others, said Daud Ahmadi, a spokesman for Helmand's governor.

Initially, only 12 people were reported killed in the attack.

Separately, a Nato soldier was killed in a roadside bomb, also in southern Afghanistan, where another British soldier died from a gunshot wound Thursday.

Southern Afghanistan is the center of the Taliban-led insurgency. Obama has ordered thousands of new troops to join the fight there and reverse the Taliban gains.

Today, a US Air Force Predator drone went down in central Ghazni province's Qarabagh district, Mathias said. She ruled out insurgent activity in the area of the crash.

However, Zabiullah Mujaheed, a Taliban spokesman, said they had shot the drone down. It was impossible to verify the claim.

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Stinking yankee liars
[info]leonard_merryl wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 03:54 pm (UTC)
Stinking yankee LIARS.
lies coming from usa
[info]ebbi581 wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 04:28 pm (UTC)
we all know what denial means !!! it means yes its true but in six months time !!!
Cowardly and barbaric taleban/al-Qaedas/Islamists using women/children as human shield!
[info]nooraza wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 04:35 pm (UTC)
Is this how these coward Islamists are ordered by their God to fight their so-called "Holy War .i.e. Jihad"? Using women and children as human shield, instaed of being at front line on their own? Of course, what do you expect from these sociopathic Islamist men who don't give a damn human worth to women and girls especially! Sickening hypocrisy of the Islamic world, who are not condemning and protesting on the streets everywhere, towards such cowardly barabraic act by these kind of dark-age Muslims!
Re: Cowardly and barbaric taleban/al-Qaedas/Islamists using women/children as human shield!
[info]hcurtiss wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 06:11 pm (UTC)
These sociopaths were western allies, recruited and supplied by CIA supporters in Pakistam when they were fighting the Russians. Checkout Charlie Wilsons war. They were even lionized as freedom fighters in Rambo III - ompared them with American revolutionaries fighting for their independence. Of course they were freedom fighting Mujahadeen thenbut nasty Taleban since 9/11
Re: Cowardly and barbaric taleban/al-Qaedas/Islamists using women/children as human shield!
[info]leonard_merryl wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 06:58 pm (UTC)
Predictable response of the war-mongering SCUM.
leonard_meryl, being personally abusive, typical of Islamist thugs!
[info]nooraza wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 08:46 pm (UTC)
Such abuse by you is predictable response of primitively vile Islamist-mongering SCUM!
Re: leonard_meryl, being personally abusive, typical of Islamist thugs!
[info]leonard_merryl wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 09:23 pm (UTC)
I hope you die soon. You are scum.
leonard_meryl, you Islamic terrorist, threatening me?!
[info]nooraza wrote:
Saturday, 9 May 2009 at 08:48 am (UTC)
@leonard_meryl: "I hope you die soon. You are scum".

Coward bully Islamic terrorist are you? Trying to threaten me? Scumbag and I'm going to report you right now!
How many more dead children
[info]hcurtiss wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 06:22 pm (UTC)
The Americans are fuelling hatred with every bomb, every casualty, every insulting apology! The pictures of dying children will supply recruits to Afganistan insurgents from across the globe. We must hope Obama and Hillary see the light. This war is futile and a terrible waste of lives. Meanwhile we must campaign for withdrawal of British troops and all European Nato troops or we become murderers by association
Selective casualty counts of USA
[info]schweigen2009 wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 06:46 pm (UTC)
When Tamil Tiger terrorists make up casualy numbers, the US warns of war crimes against Sri Lanka. When the Taliban makes a claim, that is extremely over-exaggerated!!
this is a jenocide
[info]moha21 wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 07:23 pm (UTC)
every day they kill hundreds of afghan and iraqi civilian then they tell their usual lies "insurgents used women & children as human shield" it is clear as they got some coward solders killed the took their revenge from the civilians. muslim's blood is not that cheep, their turn is coming very soon, what ever they done Taliban will take over afghanistan.
Dispute the numbers
[info]robz53 wrote:
Friday, 8 May 2009 at 08:22 pm (UTC)
...and use the old "human shield"defence it seems to work for the US bestest buddy in the Middle East
Another standard to LTTE Terrorists?
[info]wannaberusta wrote:
Saturday, 9 May 2009 at 12:43 am (UTC)
Spot on... Civilian casualties and civilian hostages. why preach rubbish to Sri Lanka? You know that the terrorism has to be eradicated. you know that there could be some civilian casualties when terrorists hold them hostages. so...US...dont ask others to do what you cant................

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