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Germany shocked by the other lives of civil servants

Twenty years after Berlin Wall fell, more than 17,000 former Stasi members are still working for the state

By Tony Paterson in Berlin

Ulrich Müehe in 'The Lives of Others' - the award-winning film that portrayed the power of the Stasi

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Ulrich Müehe in 'The Lives of Others' - the award-winning film that portrayed the power of the Stasi

Berliners and the citizens of eastern Germany are struggling to digest the news that thousands of former members of the dreaded Stasi secret police were working as their local civil servants, police officers and teachers, almost 20 years after the Iron Curtain collapsed.

More than 17,000 staff currently employed by Berlin and eastern Germany's five federal states were estimated to have worked for the all-pervasive communist police organisation, according to evidence compiled by historians at Berlin's Free University.

Shocking cases came to light after the fall of the Berlin Wall, including a husband who spied on his dissident wife for years and a mother who informed the Stasi about her son after he reached puberty because she considered him a threat to the state.

The lengths to which the so-called "Sword and Shield" of the Communist Party went to obtain information was graphically portrayed in the award-winning 2006 German film, The Lives of Others. It tells the story of a ferret-like Stasi major called Gerd Wiessler who is sent to spy on a dissident East Berlin author and his lover by recording their phone calls.

In the film, Wiessler is depicted as a near down-and-out after the fall of the Berlin Wall, forced to paste up street advertisements to earn a living. Yet the researchers say reality was different for thousands of ex-Stasi workers after reunification. Many were able to get around laws adopted by reunified Germany in 1991, and hang on to their jobs because vetting was interpreted differently from state to state.

Klaus Schröder, the head of the research team, said their findings exposed the extent to which regional administrations appeared to have kept their employment of former Stasi agents a secret. "This has achieved a dimension no one expected," he said.

Groups representing the victims of the Stasi's blanket surveillance of the former East Germany's 17 million inhabitants said they were appalled by the disclosures. Ronald Lässig, of the Victims of Stalinism Association, described them as a "slap in the face for every Stasi victim" and demanded that efforts to properly vet civil servants be redoubled.

The Stasi was one of the biggest employers in the former East Germany. It had some 200,000 people working for the organisation full- and part-time and it is estimated that one in every 50 East Germans had Stasi connections. About half of the Stasi's employees were civilians who worked as informants. But the information they gleaned from spying on neighbours, friends and colleagues was used to imprison people, strip them of privileges and ruin careers.

Evidence found by both the Berlin researchers and the authors of a new book on the Stasi, They are Still Among Us, showed that authorities in the eastern state of Saxony allowed half of the former Stasi informers to keep their jobs.

Saxony's police force was said to have been infiltrated by "companies" of former Stasi informants. The state's conservative administration merely ruled that those officers should be given backroom jobs and kept from direct contact with the public. The state is still thought to employ the largest number of former Stasi agents. Last Wednesday, Germany's Federal Criminal Police admitted that 23 former Stasi employees, who were given jobs after reunification, were still working there.

The Stasi disclosures have prompted a political row. Wolfgang Bosbach, the deputy parliamentary leader of Angela Merkel's conservatives, demanded that all civil servants in the east should be re-vetted. But Stephan Hilsberg, a Social Democrat MP, said the mere fact that former Stasi employees were now working as civil servants was not the real issue. "The problem is where they end up," he said, "It is perfectly all right for them to work as janitors but if they end up in positions of authority, it becomes a problem."

Stasi: East Germany's feared secret police

Stasi was the abbreviation used by East Germany's Ministry for State Security, with its motto "Shield and Sword of the Party", the huge and highly efficient secret police force which had the task of identifying and rooting out "class enemies".

The tens of thousands of full-time agents were augmented by hundreds of thousands of part-time spies, making the German Democratic Republic one of the most closely monitored societies of modern times. Every block of flats had its part-time, live-in spook, and residents and the guests of hotels were filmed through tiny holes drilled in the walls. After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Communist regime, the Ministry was dissolved. A long-running controversy over the fate of the Stasi's files was resolved with a decision to allow public access to them.

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Same again
[info]tovasco wrote:
Saturday, 11 July 2009 at 05:27 am (UTC)
Well it is no different from what they did after the war. Germany was never very vigorous at pursuing Nazis and those it jailed were very often out long before serving their fairly lenient sentences. A sign of moral weakness or a sensible pragmatic approach......... After all what would those people have done if they couldn't feed their families, turned to organized crime perhaps, many had perfect connections to do so.
Re: Same again
[info]konopka wrote:
Saturday, 11 July 2009 at 08:50 am (UTC)
The entnazifizierung was done by the allies,not the germans.Get your facts right.
Re: Same again
[info]andre_t wrote:
Saturday, 11 July 2009 at 09:10 am (UTC)
...and the allies did not entnazify Austria, which can be experienced to date
Same again part 2
[info]tovasco wrote:
Saturday, 11 July 2009 at 02:37 pm (UTC)
Between 1945 and 1955 scholars have documented a progressive trend toward leniency coinciding with the transfer of control of the denazification process. In many trials there was little relationship between crime and punishment.

The 'Jews in Germany after the Holocaust' by Lyyn Rapaport.

It might be noted here that most Germans, at least as far as their sentiment was represented by the West German parliament did not approve of even the relatively light sentences handed meted out to Hitler's accomplices. A number of them handed over by the allies to German custody were not even prosecuted, even when they were accused of mass murder and some of them even found employment in the Bonn government.

'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich' by William Shirer
Ostalgie
[info]richleau wrote:
Saturday, 11 July 2009 at 05:40 pm (UTC)
You'd think from this report we are talking about 17,000 hardened crimminals, whereas the truth is that these people, every one of them, were informal agents. That means people who simply gave information to the Stasi. They are actually fairly harmless and probably all of them diligent, honest and hard working people. Though you wouldn't guess that from the slant on this story.

And the smear implied by the conjuction of 'The lives of others' in this story is a bit cheap. These people were not of the calibre of the character in that film. It is something of an injustice to suggest they are, even by association.

The row in Germany itself over this revelation is equally sickening. German leaders regard the DDR as an illegal state and everyone who worked for it a crook. This itself is an dreadful revision of history of which both the CDU and SDP should be ashamed. Twenty years on and Germans seem no better at understanding the DDR with the passage of time. I would suggest that the likes of Bosbach and Hilsberg are treating history in the same politically driven revisionist manner that the old Soviets indulged in.

No wonder then that 56% of East Germans would rather live under the old DDR system, as shown by a very well conducted and thorough piece of research. This includes young East Germans born after re-unification, which is astonishing. It means the majority of people of all ages in the old DDR think capitalism and the Federal Republic are not all they are cracked up to be.

Bosbach and Hilsberg are voicing the deeply held fears of the main parties, that they are losing touch with east Germans. Therefore they seek any opportunity to attack remnants of the DDR system. There is in Germany as in the UK a disenchantment with politics in general. In Germany this has become entwined with nostalgia for a past where people behaved better, were nicer to each other and had a reasonable life without having to be rich to achieve it. The rosy image of the DDR is the perceived threat whereas the failings of liberal market economics is actually the culprit.

A shame your correspondent has stuck to the superficial Stasiland approach, but then that's what readers of this paper want, I suppose - clod simple preconceptions.
Re: Ostalgie
[info]ourmaninferney wrote:
Saturday, 11 July 2009 at 11:51 pm (UTC)
If you think that's "what readers of this paper want", then you either haven't read it much, or are a fool.
Re: Ostalgie
[info]richleau wrote:
Sunday, 12 July 2009 at 08:41 pm (UTC)
Comments like this somewhat convince me I may be right. And reading the early Nazi comments makes it difficult to avoid the conclusion.
Re: Ostalgie update
[info]richleau wrote:
Sunday, 12 July 2009 at 08:43 pm (UTC)
Oh yes, I was right - Read below.
Re: Ostalgie update
[info]ourmaninferney wrote:
Sunday, 12 July 2009 at 09:57 pm (UTC)
The first five paras of your original post were OK, it was just the last I was commenting on.

Having read the remainder of the posts I'm beginning to wonder if I logged onto another site entirely.

I love the way that these conspiracy types think that organisations that leak like sieves are at the same time able to keep massive secrets down the ages whilst openly displaying their symbols for all to see. It really makes me think that there might be something in the water after all.
Re: Ostalgie update
[info]richleau wrote:
Monday, 13 July 2009 at 09:07 am (UTC)
Never fear I've had this experience before on Independent Minds. It seems once you get east of line drawn from Stockholm to Madrid something strange happens and you come across patterns of thought you never dreamed existed.
Why Are You Surprised?
[info]mkarnak wrote:
Sunday, 12 July 2009 at 04:30 am (UTC)
The fact that these guys are still around should not be a surprise. There are still Nazis running around. The fact that the WHO, Baxter Labs and a huge number of governments have started a pandemic so that they can continue to stay in power proves that dictators don't leave, they trade places. If dictators do that, you can be that they take their minions with them.

CHECK OUT THE CASE THAT JANE BUERGERMEISTER FILED IN AUSTRIA. Here's what you need to know: An Austrian division of Baxter Labs shipped something like 72 liters of live swine virus around the world in March 2009. A German newspaper correlated the shipments with broken vials of virus and OUTBREAKS OF SWINE FLU. THE TEST VACCINES SENT OUT FOR THE BIRD FLU THAT WERE CREATED BY BAXTER AND THEY HAVE KILLED HUNDREDS OF HOMELESS POLISH PEOPLE. YOU ARE BEING TOLD THAT YOU WILL GET A MANDATORY FLU VACCINATION. THAT VACCINATION WILL BE MADE WITH BAXTER'S VACCINES.

IF YOU WERE A POTENTIAL DICTATOR TYPE THAT WANTED TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD, WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO KILL A LOT OF PEOPLE AND/OR MAKE THEM SICK? WOULDN'T YOU ALSO WANT TO HAVE SOME LITTLE DESPOTS READY TO HELP YOU OUT? This is exactly why the Stasi is still hanging around. THEY ARE WAITING TO ASSUME THEIR NEW ROLE AS THE ABUSERS OF THE WORLD.
American Patriot
[info]masonamerica wrote:
Sunday, 12 July 2009 at 11:31 am (UTC)
What's happening in Germany is what's happening in America. Spies have been hired by the fascist government to eavesdrop and steal ideas in order to block others from gaining wealth. It's a ruling class tactic to control all wealth. They use the stolen money to fight the Armageddon that's been going on for over two thousand years now. They use the stolen money to create the one world government they seek to control through a global dictator with control of all money moved to Israel. It's Freemasonry, the religion of the ruling class. In their religion they embrace doing evil as a way to steal wealth and oppress those who seek to merit wealth. The ruling class and lower class steal wealth. The middle class merits wealth. The middle class is promised benefits and rewards for serving corporations for a lifetime, but ultimately the fruits of their labor are robbed by Freemasons who live by stealing human energy.

That's the big game known as a speileberg. Their game is human sacrifice and has been since Freemasons wrote all monotheistic literature in order to create groups (teams) to pit against each other. War is a sport for Freemasons and they make all the rules and policies of a nation. They spy because they can and do it to remain the ruling class. Theft, embezzlement, extortion, perjury, assassination, graft is a way of life for them. That's what keeps the Federal Reserve Bank in America in control of all policy and law, they killed the presidents who weren't chosen by Freemasons, killed the presidents who attempted to close down the criminal Federal Reserve Bank. WWII was only about divvying up the taxpayers by reapportioning land and robbing the central banks of several nations all at once: Japan, Germany, America. Before that they robbed Russia of its gold and killed the Czar and his family in the name of Bolshevism whereby the poor were told they didn't have to merit wealth, they could steal it and murder for it like their leaders were stealing it and murdering for wealth.

War is a Freemason's sport and favourite pastime. It's played on many levels. Spying is just one way for the fascist Freemasons to stay in control of the game and to own the entire playing field. When they create a one world government they will own all players on every field and will commit more human sacrifice in order to steal money as often as Michael Jackson's IV pumped Propofol into his veins. Not many people will even know what happened to them. Not many know what's happening to them right now, they are being herded like cattle to the slaughter, robbed by the state. Most nations are controlled by Freemasons whose symbols and signs are the obelisk seen in every nation's capitol. The obelisk is a symbol of penis worship. All monothiestic religions are about penis worship, oppression of women, human sacrifice and the promise of wealth. The promise of wealth is the bait. Human sacrifice is the end result. That's how the ruling class stay in power, making promises of change ect., that they renege on.
Didn't Bush...
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Monday, 13 July 2009 at 03:14 pm (UTC)
... recruit the last director of the Stasi and enjoys a high position at the Department of Homeland Security?

Wolfe? I remember that there was a former KGB Director and that Stasi bloke who were recruited by the US a few years back,
Coaching in German History
[info]geschichtsfee wrote:
Monday, 13 July 2009 at 10:46 pm (UTC)
I am really fed up with this siplified, arrogant way of considering GDR - History. I am born in 1989, so i have never experienced GDR all-day life myself and know the GDR "just" from my parents and friends memories as well as from history lesson at school. Surely the GDR and especially the stasi was insane suspecting actually each citizen regardless of being an enemy. Working or just helping the stasi as inoffical employee offered better carreer opportunities. there are people who just got registered as Inofficial employee even though they just just wrote down useless information. Some people were just young and couldn't see anything problematic about working for the Stasi in terms of protecting the GDR against the "class enemy". There were employees who were former victims of the system who were just cooperating to survive. And of course here were real criminals. "the live of the others" is showing brilliantly that we have to make difference. I am wondering if you comprehend the film, Mr Patterson because it is just indefensible to just mentioning the huge figures of people who have been working for the stasi.

Eventually every kind of secret service is just felonious because its basic principle is working with suspicion not evidence. There is not any doubt that the Stasi and its practices were wrong. So why is there so less criticism about dragnet investigation? Where is the debate about CSI (besides Guantamo reporting about CSI is rather poor) When writing about the Stasi you should stumble across this ...

Doubtlessly Nationalsocialism and GDR history are to be considered seperately. Even though i think it makes sense to compare the way people and involved states deal with those two capters of German history. How was it possible that high ranked Nazis like Hans Globke worked in Chancelor Adenauer's government?????? Globke, for instance, had written a law commentary on the new Reich Citizenship Law (The Nuremberg Laws -introduced at Hitler's request at the Nazi Party Congress in September 1935, it revoked the citizenship of German Jews) and had been later "Ministerial Counsel" for the Third Reich. he is just one example amongst thoundans or even millions of former Nazisupporters. And they were literally murderer or not better the had organised mass murder. How is this even possible inspite of the allied's big aim of denacification??? It sould be obious that GDR crimes and Nazi crimes are totaly different dimessions. While the Nazis had caused montains of corpse (millions...) in only 12 years the GDR left behind mainly mountains of paper (estimated death tolls are far under even Million)...
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