Miliband met by icy reception on debut mission to Moscow
Strained relations evident as Russia once again refuses Foreign Secretary's request to extradite Litvinenko suspect
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David Miliband, British Foreign Secretary, listens to hisRussian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, at a press conference in Moscow yesterday
David Miliband's demands that the man suspected of involvement in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko be extradited to London were again refused by the Russian government in high-level talks in Moscow yesterday.
The British Foreign Secretary's trip was the highest-ranking official British visit to Russia in years. But his Russian counterparty, Sergey Lavrov, made it clear that Mr Miliband's efforts to secure the extradition of the former security agent and current MP Andrei Lugovoi, as well as to make progress on a range of other issues that plague bilateral relations, would come to naught.
Mr Lugovoi is suspected of playing a role in the radioactive polonium poisoning of Mr Litvinenko, a former Russian security agent, in 2006.
"I suspect that our British counterparts are aware of the fact that a demand to change our constitution is not realistic," Mr Lavrov said, in a reference to Russia's argument that its law forbids extradition of citizens.
Relations between the two countries have been particularly strained since Mr Litvinenko's murder. But a range of other sticking points remain. Britain is still aggrieved by the closure of regional offices of the British Council, which President Dmitry Medvedev has accused of being a front for British spies, while the Russians are frustrated at the refusal of the British courts to extradite a number of Kremlin opponents living in Britain.
As Mr Miliband and Mr Lavrov met yesterday there was pointedly no talk of "pressing the reset button" with Russia in the same way that the administration of Barack Obama has done since the US President took office. It was instead made clear that the important differences between the countries would not simply go away, but that focus should be put on the areas – most notably the economy – where common interests are aligned.
Not only does Britain have the worst relationship with Russia of any major Western country, but there is also little love lost between the two ministers themselves. Mr Lavrov was alleged to have subjected Mr Miliband to an obscenity-filled tirade over the telephone, shortly after Russia's war with Georgia last year.
This visit was played as an attempt to move on and find areas where co-operation is possible, such as trade links and co-ordinating action over Iran's nuclear programme, Afghanistan and nuclear disarmament.
"Our discussions have been marked by mutual respect; personal, but also between our countries," said Mr Miliband. "Not only do we understand each other better, but we are going to find ways to work together better."
Nevertheless, the differences were there for all to see. The two ministers discussed the Litvinenko case at length, but it was clear that a mutually acceptable solution will not be found. Mr Lavrov, besides noting Britain's "unrealistic" demands, again suggested that Mr Lugovoi could be tried in Russia with the involvement of British law enforcement agencies, if Britain were to send Russia the required evidence. Mr Miliband insisted that British prosecutors had already sent their Russian counterparts all the materials necessary for them to co-operate, while Mr Lavrov retorted that this was not the case.
Analysts in Moscow said that Russian officials have little time for Mr Miliband, given his history of harsh words about Russia and vocal support for Georgia and Ukraine's entry into Nato. They expect a more conciliatory approach to be forthcoming from a potential future Conservative government.
The visit was unfortunately timed to coincide with the third anniversary of Mr Litvinenko's poisoning, which prompted angry words from his widow, Marina. "The fact remains that a British citizen was murdered in the centre of London in a state-sponsored act of nuclear terrorism," she said in a statement released last month. "The apparent softening of Mr Miliband's position is a great disappointment to me."
In addition to meeting Mr Lavrov, Mr Miliband met Mikhail Gorbachev, and also did the rounds of the few independent media outlets remaining in Russia, giving an interview to Ekho Moskvy radio and Novaya Gazeta, the newspaper where the murdered reporter Anna Politkovskaya worked.
Britain and Russia: Diplomatic incidents
*January 2006: The FSB accuses British diplomats of using a fake rock planted on a Moscow street to hold secret data.
*December 2006: Britain complains that ambassador Anthony Brenton has been subjected to harassment "bordering on violence" after he addressed an opposition meeting.
*April 2007: Russia renewed their request for extradition of tycoon Boris Berezovsky, an enemy of Vladimir Putin, but the requests were denied. Mr Berezovsky was granted political asylum in September 2003.
*May 2007: Britain makes first formal extradition request for Andrei Lugovoi over the murder of Alexander Litvinenko. Russia turns it down.
*January 2008: Russia demands British Council offices close after a tax dispute. Ultimately only one remains open.
*June 2009: Ongoing tensions are exemplified by David Miliband's warning that Russia "needs to change course".
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The Lugovoi case is another issue: everybody in the world knows that Lugovoi, sponsored by the Russian state apparatus, killed Litvinenko in London. They know that, we know that. However, they have said before that they will not change their constitution to allow us to put him on trial in London. So, we either end all relations with Russia or we get over it. The latter is the only option as Russia supplies us and the rest of Europe with vast quantities of natural gas, and that is plainly more important. In the meantime, Russia, I suspect, now knows that it cannot get away with murdering people openly in Britain and will change its behaviour accordingly. Well, that's what we can hope for. One last question could be asked about Boris Berezhovsky; do the Russians have a legitimate claim for him to be extradited there? If he is a criminal, why do we allow him the freedom of Britain?
>>killed Litvinenko in London.
It is only poor people in England who think that. And how did Brits start to believe that? The mechanism is the same as in the beginning of the Georgian attack on Ossetia last year - propaganda. Even BBC was posting clear misinformation. You want examples...?
To this day British law enforcement agencies did not send any files with evidence against Lugovoi. They them self admit that their evidence is secret. Whatever "evidence" was published in the press is very far from convincing (like that traces were found on his return plane to Moscow - which proves exactly nothing). And why do they expect Russia to change its constitution just because UK demands that? This is SO rediculous, yet 90% of Brits believe what "jonswan" said. Poor people :(
Probably more than 90%, get back to embassy with that Stalin!
What else should I expect from a real gentleman?
>> killed Litvinenko in London.
Well. If WORLD=England+USA then yes, everybody in the world.
>> One last question could be asked about Boris Berezhovsky;
>> do the Russians have a legitimate claim for him to be extradited there?
Yes. Berezhovsky stole millions dollars. He is thief. This is proven fact.
>> If he is a criminal, why do we allow him the freedom of Britain?
Very good question. It’s very simple. Because he yapping against Russia too loud.
Everyone who yaps against Russia is a good.
Don’t forget about Zakaev.
Lastly, it is funny to read that Russia was "partly responsible" for the war with Georgia - the war which started with the unprovoked Georgian attack on the UN-mandated Russian peacekeepers and the use of the mass destruction weapons against the sleeping S. Ossetian capital - a few hours after the Georgian president was swearing that the war was not an option.
Miliband, who fully backed Israel’s catspaw, Sackasvilli, over Georgia’s invasion of South Ossetia and who represents that latter day Meyer Lansky, Boris Berezovsky, has been slapped down by the good old Russkies. And, of course, Miliband, a loyal servant of Israel, would not be doing his job if he didn’t beg Russia to go along with more illegal sanctions against Iran.
God help the EU if this dim-witted Zionist becomes its Foreign Minister.
Sorry, can't agree with that hjd100, what about,Gorbels Mick, Jack Straw, Margaret Beckit, Ms Blears, Ms Smith, Balls, Darling, Prescott, Mandelson -though unelected, he is now running the show - as is Brown, he is also unelected as PM, Keith Vaz, and that shower in the Lords, Uddin and co, the over promoted ex-postie Johnson, Milliband is a mere amateur, compared with that grisly bunch !
So. Where is the *evidence* needed? I never seen one!
"Mr Miliband insisted that British prosecutors had already sent their Russian counterparts all the materials necessary for them to co-operate, while Mr Lavrov retorted that this was not the case."
Mr Milliband is lying. Mr Lavrov is right.
The pathetic british "evidence" is not enough to trial anybody in any civilized country.
This is not the evidence -- this is *bluff*.
If Mr Milliband considers his "evidence" satisfactory, he must let independent experts take a look at it. Up to this moment, this was considered "sercet". Ha ha.
Your English is good !
So, you ARE Russian ! And you are correct, how did you KNOW, my knowledge, of your language is nil ? My Arabic is rather better, and that is poor.
I have always been a fan of the the old Russian chess masters, by the way - I presume you play, that is, always supposing, you Russians have recovered from being swindled out of the world championship, back in 1972 in Iceland . Cold War still, wasn't it, by Fischer and his CIA entourage, and were not totally demoralised. Who would your favourite be, Spassky, Tal, Botvinnick ? my favourite is always going to be Capablanca, but we digress, and it is getting late...
so, what? I do not get your excitement, I do not look like an alien and
do not have antennas on my head. You sound like you never met a single Russian
before. Do I guess right that you live in some remote place and hardly ever leave it?
I travel a lot and meet Russian people almost anywhere I go. Often enough,
it is not obvious, unless you understand Russian well enough. Also, it is easy to confuse it
with other Slavic languages (Polish, Czhech, Slovak, Slovenian, ... in fact, most of
Eastern European ones).
While I do know the names of chess-masters you mentioned, I do
not have any hurt feelings about Fisher winning over Spassky. Fisher
was a very smart guy and he deserved that victory. The only thing I do not
understand is why the American government is not particularly proud
of Fisher any more. Why so?
I travel a bit when I can, and did spend a couple of days in St. Petersburg a couple of years ago. What a splendid city ! The Hermitage museum is something to behold, and in touring it, and wondering at it all, I ran across quite a few Russians, most of whom spoke much better English than I do.
Back to Fischer and Spassky, no, Spassky was cheated, just read the games !
"We need someone who will not be cowed or corrupted!" .... What is needed is someone who can lead with something all can follow/accept.
He should have knocked on our door & got some practise in.