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Russia deploys new nuclear cruise missiles

Six new atomic submarines, armed with improved nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, will join the Russian navy. The Defence Ministry said the first, the Severodvinsk, will be launched in 2011 and at least five others of the same type will be built by 2017.

The new hypersonic cruise missiles with increased range are designed to strike "aircraft carriers of the potential enemy if they pose a direct threat to Russia's security," the ministry said. It added that the missiles are also capable of hitting land targets. Russia has increasingly relied on nuclear weapons to compensate for the decline of its conventional forces. In December, the chief of the Russian general staff, General Nikolai Makarov, said Russia will keep its arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons, which he said were necessary to counter a massive Nato advantage in conventional weapons. Tactical nuclear weapons have a much shorter range compared to strategic nuclear weapons. They are intended for use within a theatre of battle. Earlier this week, the Russian navy's deputy chief of staff said the role of tactical nuclear weapons in the Russian navy may grow. Vice-Admiral Oleg Burtsev said the increasing range and precision of tactical nuclear weapons makes them an important asset.

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Yes good news actually
[info]topolcats wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 08:22 am (UTC)
From the Russian point of view, given Americas= NATO expansion into the border areas with clearly the intent to attack Russia at some point in the future, this by the way has been sadly Russian history. When ever she has been encircled she has been attacked. Let the West know and understand that to yet again attack Russia, will mean going into uncharted territory called" Nuclear war".
Long live Russia.
Russia+USSR saved the world from the terrors of Napoleon & Hitler Inter Alia. And if Russia has to fight yet again Fascists, even if they are called the USA and her allies. So be it!!
(no subject) - [info]lewis_northants - Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 09:33 am (UTC)
Re: Russia deploys new nuclear cruise missiles
[info]hanif001 wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 11:00 am (UTC)
How does this news impact China. We seem to be back to 3 superpowers again, USA, Russia and China. China seems building up its forces silently and without making much noise - apart from news regarding Tibet.

Do these Russian reinforcements worry the Chinese or is it just a measure to counteract USA's eastern defense (or offensive) ambitions? It would be good to know the Chinese perspective on this change.
Re: Russia deploys new nuclear cruise missiles
[info]lewis_northants wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 08:49 pm (UTC)
This weapon system is primary for the destruction of large groups of naval vessels. The PLAN at this time has only

destroyers, smaller surface vessels and submarines. An aircraft carriers might be acquired or built in the future. Until such time the new nuclear cruise missiles do not pose a threat to the Chinese.

I believe that the only US overseas ambitions at the present time is an successful extraction from Iraq,and some way to end the war in Afghanistan. Only some one with the intelligence of Douglas Feith would be looking for other foreign adventures. As Mr Feith has left the Pentagon, I believe the rest of the world can breath in peace.

China would be pleased with the present American-Russian relationship, as it allows them to buy up raw materials in the third world with out being bothered by the two other super powers. Who are on the verge of an arms race and cold war at a time of world recession if not depression. Not the best of all possible worlds.



Russia deploys new nuclear missiles
[info]james_yates wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 10:28 am (UTC)
Why do EU countries not end NATO and instead cooperate with the Russian Federation? Because the U.S. still has global ambitions and it blackmails its dependent provinces (like the UK). The US unilaterally decides to base missiles in Poland and Checkia, and how does NATO and the EU respond? Dead silence! We know that the British military is an auxiliary U.S. force, but what about the rest of Europe, and why the heck is Sarkozy bringing France into NATO. That guy will do absolutely anything to get his face on TV.
Increased range - Is this a 145 minute threat?
[info]hanif001 wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 10:47 am (UTC)
Should we invade Russia and start looking for their wmd's?
Let the USA initiate the invasion and we'll tag along...
(it has gas resources in abundance as a bonus :-)
Russia's military 'counter measure'.
[info]blastarrbxiii wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 02:07 pm (UTC)
The first comment poster is right in saying,
"And if Russia has to fight yet again Fascists, even if they are called the USA and her allies.
So be it!!"
Sadly the governments of the 'Axis of Evil', USA, Britain and Isreal are fascist, as are many of the NATO tribe.
The riding roughshod over the people of these countries all (suposedly) in the name of freedom, anti-terrorism and national security can be seen for what it is.
Totalitarianism.
Which Russia has never dispensed of with, even now when they are no longer ruling the USSR empire.

Americas double digit aircraft carriers compared to the odd one or two that other countries possess gives them an advantage.
Even Russia had but the one aircraft carrier in service, quite surprisingly really.

Nothing like these new "improved nuclear-tipped cruise missiles" Russia is said it will develop to counter measure against the USA.

I'd like to see 10 American Aircraft Carriers sunk in a day, then they wouldn't have such a strategic advantage.
Then again the USA has bases everywhere around the World on dry land.

With the state of the World economy these 6 nuclear subs might not even get built.
You can be sure for the short term the Americans will be doing all they can, FINANCIALLY, to counter Russia's military 'counter measure'.

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Oh, and our Mr 'lewis_northants', you'd be better off not posting you name address and phone number chap.
There are a lot of crazed people on the internet, who you don't want to get bothered by.
Re: Russia's military 'counter measure'.
[info]lewis_northants wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 03:34 pm (UTC)
Anyone interested in the use of tactical nuclear weapons by the US Navy should read the Congressional Research Report January 28, 2009 by Amy F. Woolf. The document is available on line. This report states that all tactical nuclear weapons were removed from US Navy surface and submarines in 1992. Is the reason for the Russian announcement of intending to develop and deploy these weapons a wish to start a new arms race,similar to the one during the cold war? The use of one nuclear weapon either strategic or tactical by Russia or the US against the other would result in the total destruction of both along with the rest of mankind in accordance with the MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) doctrine. All citizens of the world let alone Americans or Russians should look at these developments with dismay.


war of the worlds
[info]jackschan wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 10:30 pm (UTC)
Whilst no government is perfect, it seems some have an underground command and control structure (hell). I point the finger at Israel, USA, UK, EU.
Whatever else you may say about Russia since the collapse of the Jewish USSR, and China, they are not the ones who have reeked havoc and misery across the globe in the current age.
We are living in a dangerous world
[info]cayrick wrote:
Saturday, 28 March 2009 at 11:00 pm (UTC)
We are back into a world of Zbig Brezinski global brinksmanship. The US arsenal is dictated not by military leaders in the Pentagon but by the Military Industrial Complex. These weapons manufacturers are the only segment of the US economy not experiencing hard times. Expect future orders to be predicated on the systems that generate the most profit for the manufacturers.
Remember Brezinski will proudly state on his resume that he created Pol Pot and that he drew the Russians into Afghanistan. If this is not troubling to the Russians then they need to be concerned by the Pentagons security advisor James Jones who publicly stated that he takes his orders from Kissinger another frightening figure lurking in the shadows.
We have been conditioned to believing that the axis of evil was Baghdad, N. Korea and Iran. The Russians don't watch CNN, FOX and American Idol so they see things differently. They see the axis of evil as Washington, London and Tel Aviv. They have correctly figured out that in terms of conventional forces they are outgunned and see the need for a tactical nuclear arsenal.
The Russians watch as the US and NATO try once again to encircle Russia. Most Russians do not understand Engish so they are not swayed by Obama rhetoric and instead feel they are looking at a well armed but increasing desperate superpower controlled by a dangerous and deceitful administration on the brink of failure. They know only too well that desperate men do desperate things and that the adminsitration is currently trying to gauge the Russian reaction to a US/ Israeli assault on Iran's oilfields. If they gauge wrong it will be one horrific showdown.
Asymmetric Warfare Rocks
[info]scotoz27 wrote:
Sunday, 29 March 2009 at 12:05 am (UTC)
The really strange thing is that the economics that shows US military spending grows and grows at a phenomenal rate when Russia can sink a US$5Billion aircraft carrier with a $1Million Moskit or Yakhont cruise missile at supersonic and hypersonic speed. It is not the amount of money that is spent it is the effectiveness of the money being spent and while US infrastructure crumbles the Military Industrial complex makes billions of dollars that are totally ineffective in a modern war. The idea that the bogey man of the last century was Communism to be replaced by this phoney war on terror should have all of us supporting Russia as the last bastion of hope at some semblance of freedom from the neocon right hellbent on a New World Order, single currency, global reduction in population by 80%, RFID chips in all of us and the realisation of George Orwell's 1984 scenarios which of course we are already in.
Re: Asymmetric Warfare Rocks
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Sunday, 29 March 2009 at 04:33 am (UTC)
Ah haven't seen a reference to Kissinger s plan to cull the world population for a good long time, I know it was signed into policy by Gerald Ford but can't seem to find any indication that it was ever dropped or signed out of policy so I assume it still stands as a valid foreign policy today.

For those wondering, Henry Kissinger and his bunch of merry wizards decided that we outside of America were breeding too much and this was not allowed as we would all want to buy and own vital resources that only America thought it should have sole access to (apparently God told them), plans were drawn up with carrot and sticks, promoting family planning on a global scale, financial aid for countries that signed up to this, no sweeties for those that didn't, indirect action by inciting wars between fractious neighbours, to the more direct approach of America waging a war against nations under various pretenses to reduce human life that way.

This is a very real thing and can be googled up a treat, Some of the language though is rather chilling, having more than a passing resemblance to ideas given by a Mr A. Hitler and his Aryan chums.
Crazy brinkmanship
[info]tobyandtoby wrote:
Sunday, 29 March 2009 at 12:56 am (UTC)
I just don't understand why the US has been forcing NATO to expand like lunatics into the Russian backyard. What planet is the US on? They have no active support here in the UK regarding this.

Since communism fell in Russia I have viewed her as a potential friend and guarantor of Europe in the future. China is the real problem- she is building up a vast industrial base from her sales to Europe and North America and has designs on several nations in her region and is busy supressing another.

I would much rather have a new alliance formed that includes both the US and Russia, the role of NATO is over now.
10 years Ahead Of The West
[info]bodyoflies wrote:
Sunday, 29 March 2009 at 01:29 am (UTC)
Russia has always had the technology, now they have the money.

Americans play Monopoly, Russians play Chess
theater nukes?
[info]elmerfuddz wrote:
Sunday, 29 March 2009 at 03:57 am (UTC)
here we go again.. "Nuclear tips", nuclear tipped torpedoes and or cruise missiles, supersonic yet!. In a conventional attack such as on the USS Cole or let's not forget the USS Liberty, a strafing from the air, or a half a hundred pounds of RDX and the results might be that a ship hobbles back into port. What did Burtsev mean by "theater use?" If a sortie makes an attack equivalent to damages inflicted on the Cole or Liberty incidents, how does this merit the launch of even a 1-KT warhead that would surely kill all 5,000 sailors aboard a aircraft carrier? Dear General Oleg, what nation would "stand down" after such a loss? How do you envision keeping it in within a theater conflict? In the event of targeting error or last minute negotiation, do you have a way to "recall" such a weapon? Did you ponder the thought of flying the beast in low and into the target? don't forget the ocean water eddy currents are far more complex than the predictable topography over land. Budgetary short cuts in weaponry can end up changing history! As I recall, we too have our cruise missile experts, there's one at MIT, he said something about there being 200 or so "gyroscopic" guidance calculations, some of them for the earths geomagnetism, I get bad nightmares about this, because the earth does have sudden magnetic fluctuations, example beached whales, this kind of weapon system is too delicate and untried over water!! please return to conventional torpedoes (and just pretend to have the missiles, we won't know anyway)

Elmer Fudd-Des Moines
Russia on the upsurge
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Sunday, 29 March 2009 at 04:22 am (UTC)
Anyone who needs to know the issue here has to look at the SunBurn system that Iran and China also have in copious amounts, it can carry conventional, nuclear or Bio/chem payloads, has a range of some good few hundred kilometres and once fired cannot be stopped, dodged, jammed or shot down, it is a true "set and forget" system and one SunBurn has the ability to obliterate and I use the term in its fullest meaning as to down to small parts, a full sized aircraft carrier and that is with conventional payload.

Bill Clinton tried to buy this missile for the US and was rebuffed very firmly, this one was not for the Americans (unless given as a surprise gift) and its strategic and theatre potential is devastating, needless to say that other newer missiles in this family have been given longer ranges, larger payloads but still that 100% strike chance with devastating results and the US has nothing to counter this.

The Americans thought that during the Soviet collapse it would allow them to gain time to catch up on technology that was some years in front of the American's best, the Russians whilst allowing its country to fall to pieces in many ways, still carried on regardless in developing and building new systems, the Americans gained nothing except a leaner and fitter adversary, divested of the very things that kept it slow and vulnerable.

Last year, the Russians also gave the US a real shock, they calmly notified them that using their S-300's and S-400's they could digitally track the US's stealth planes with ease, adding more to a long list of deficiencies that the US tries to play against a very sophisticated nation indeed.

Russia has always excelled in unconventional military systems, it has a formidable submarine fleet, sister ships to the Chinese sub that popped up totally undetected by the carrier fleet in the Gulf last year (Iran has these also), Russia also recognises that America sees and hears through its satellite networks and has on very lo ready to launch time, a huge amount of "Satellite killers" that will literally blind and deafen the US in any coming conflict throwing its military operations into disarray.

So whilst the US has been concentrating on building robot dogs and active denial systems to use on civilian targets, the Russians have just carried on improving already superior technologies, recently a Pentagon report suggested that the Russians were some 15 years in front of the US in certain areas and if Russia has the ability to negate America's carrier groups, this reduces America's threatening position against Russia tremendously.

So whilst the US is demanding we put our safety in such as the very poor performing Patriot or trust our lives to the ABM system which still is fraught with problems, the Russians are churning out proven system after proven system and to be blunt, if it came to a shooting war... we are gonna get fried.

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