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The rise and rise of Russian nationalism

Long tolerated by the authorities, right-wing groups are now being seen as a serious threat to national security. Shaun Walker reports from Moscow

Russian nationalists make Nazi-style salutes during a May Day rally in Moscow

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Russian nationalists make Nazi-style salutes during a May Day rally in Moscow

There have been a number of threats to Russia's security in recent years, from Chechen terrorism to the country's worrying demographic decline. But according to sources close to the Russian security services, what the authorities fear most in these times of economic crisis is the very thing that many Russians see as the country's saviour – nationalism.

Amid a dizzying array of May Day marches, featuring various groups from across the political spectrum, all eyes were on the nationalists. They gathered around a metro station in north Moscow, as well as in other cities across the country, calling for all immigrants to be deported and a "Russia for the Russians". In the event, the Moscow meeting passed off peacefully; police arrested a few demonstrators for the possession of knives, and the rest dispersed without incident. But with a huge migrant population, poverty and unemployment among locals, and with the high oil prices that fuelled the economic boom of the past few years a fast-receding memory, many feel the time for Russia's nationalists to take the political initiative is coming soon.

Then there's Alexander Belov, Moscow's answer to the BNP's Nick Griffin. Dressed in a sharp black suit, the light of a Bluetooth receptor constantly winking over his left ear, he fingers a set of Orthodox Christian prayer beads and sips a freshly squeezed orange juice, looking like one of the thousands of well-to-do businessmen who have made decent money as Russia boomed over the past decade. But as well as being successful in the construction industry, Mr Belov is also Russia's most famous racist. He believes that the time for the nationalists to take the limelight is coming soon.

"What I want is very simple," he says, in a quiet and measured voice. "I don't want parts of Moscow to be ghettos. This city is already full of places where Russians aren't welcome, and it's unacceptable. This is a Russian city and should remain that way."

An erudite and self-assured man who heads a group of skinheads with a reputation for violence, he leads the Movement Against Illegal Immigration – the DPNI, as it's known by its Russian initials – one of Russia's largest far-right groups. One of its main policies is that Russia should introduce a visa regime for migrants from the former Soviet republics, sending most of the millions of Gastarbeiters (Russians use the German term to refer to guest-workers) back home.

Talking to Mr Belov and his DPNI associates is alarming. One minute they are complaining that the Russian government is corrupt, and that under Vladimir Putin civil society has been muffled and the people should be given more chance to express their democratic will (words that could come straight from the mouths of liberal opposition politicians such as the former chess grandmaster Garry Kasparov). The next minute, they are suddenly talking about cleansing Moscow of anyone who doesn't have white skin, and ranking races according to their "cultural level".

"Migrants should only be allowed if they are in the interests of society; if they have a particular skill that no locals possess, which is very unusual," says Viktor Yakushev, a giant man with a shaven head, who claims to have two higher degrees and is the DPNI's chief ideologue. "There's no denying the fact that different races have different cultural levels. You just have to look at how many black people are in prison in America, and that's after all these years of positive discrimination. Here, take Azerbaijan, for example, from where we have a lot of migrants. The society is feudal. They are unsophisticated people; they don't understand European civilisation."

The rhetoric is unpleasant, but it finds resonance among great swathes of Russian society, which is notoriously racist towards anyone with non-Slavic features. These xenophobic leanings can manifest themselves in an ugly and tasteless way, such as the tanning salons that employ African students to stand outside wearing grass skirts and holding signs that read: "I got my tan here." There is also a more sinister side to Russian racism, as evidenced by the multitude of attacks on immigrants in Moscow and across Russia.

According to Alexander Brod, the director of the Moscow Bureau of Human Rights and one of Russia's leading anti-racism campaigners, racist attacks have risen fourfold in the past five years, and may increase more sharply as the economic crisis deepens. His organisation monitors hate crimes in the country, keeping a log on its website that makes for scary reading. For one randomly selected week in April, the data shows that a Tajik citizen was murdered, citizens of Azerbaijan and Kyrgyzstan were attacked, graves were vandalised at a Jewish cemetery, and a swastika was found freshly painted on to the wall of an apartment block.

In 2008, there were 293 racist attacks, according to official statistics, including 122 deaths, but as Mr Brod points out, those that make it to the record are just the tip of the iceberg. Given that many migrant workers are in Russia illegally, they are afraid to report attacks, and indeed many see the police as more of a threat than the skinheads. Nobody knows how many attacks there really are, but most immigrants have stories of being threatened, at the very least, during their time in Russia.

Russia has more than 10 million immigrants by some estimates, giving it the second-largest immigrant population in the world, after the United States. Most of them are from the impoverished former Soviet republics of central Asia and the Caucasus, who come to Russia to earn cash to send to their families back home. Now, with the financial crisis bringing Russia's economic boom to a grinding halt, hundreds of thousands of migrant labourers who were the engine behind the construction frenzy that overtook Moscow and other Russian cities find themselves out of work. At the same time, unemployment and anger are on the rise among ethnic Russians. Analysts say it could be a dangerous combination, and people such as Mr Belov believe their moment is nigh.

He has come to the interview straight from a hearing in a court case, where he stands accused of inciting racial hatred and faces up to a year and a half in prison if convicted. It seems to be one of many signs that the Russian authorities, who for a long time have at the very least turned a blind eye to nationalist movements, are beginning to get worried. Whereas the DPNI and groups such as the Slavic Union used to have powerful backers among members of Russia's Duma, and according to rumours, even within the presidential administration, it now seems that the word has gone out that the nationalists should be muffled. While nationalist posturing towards the West and Nato is a mainstay of Russian foreign policy, there is now a growing realisation that nationalism within the country could be a dangerous force if it gets out of control.

"There is mass unemployment in the country, and the economic crisis is getting worse," Mr Belov says. "The authorities are scared of people who find a common language with the masses and tell the truth." He claims that he preaches an ideology of non-violence: "By trying to sideline me, they will only promote a real wave of violence," he says.

"I've heard from sources in the Moscow FSB [Federal Security Service] that they have been told that in this time of economic crisis, nationalism is a bigger threat to national security than terrorism," says Andrei Soldatov, one of the leading experts on the Russian security services.

A recent mockumentary film called Russia 88, which so far has failed to find a cinema chain in Russia willing to show it, highlights the issue. Shot using grainy footage from handheld cameras, the film follows a group of Russian skinheads as they beat up immigrants in the metro and on the street. The skinheads are played by actors, says the director, Pavel Bardin, but all the neo-Nazi clothing and paraphernalia was bought from real Russian online shops, many of the words are taken from internet forums, and the on-street vox pop, where many people are seen voicing racist statements and declaring that "Russia is for the Russians", is real.

While genuine neo-Nazis will remain on the periphery and never gain widespread popularity in a country that still feels immense pride in its role in the defeat of fascism during the Second World War, the casual racism and hatred of immigrants that could provoke a nationalist uprising are certainly there in abundance. Indeed, some surveys show that up to 60 per cent of Russians agree with the slogan "Russia for the Russians", the catchphrase of Russian nationalists.

"There is no legal way for people to express their dislike for immigrants," Mr Yakushev says. "This means there will be increasing street violence. There will be killings and bombs."

The latest attempts by the authorities to silence people like Mr Belov are overdue, but are unlikely to be effective, rights campaigners say.

"Racism is like a dragon, where you cut off one head and another simply grows back in its place," Mr Brod says. "The authorities are trying to fight xenophobia with punitive measures, but the only way to do it properly is to combine this with solutions to the root causes of nationalism – poverty, unemployment, and young people who have no prospects."

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er Clarification needed I think...
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 02:08 am (UTC)
"The skinheads are played by actors"

Does this mean that the people they were hitting were not actors?

I remember one of these groups if not the main one mentioned being covered by super tough pansy Ross Kemp, another installment of seeing how quick Mr Kemp could start quivering all over like a big bald jelly.

What should be remarked on though is that some of these groups have powerful backing, Russians all see national service and many of them involved of the older associates are probably remnants of GRU and KGB factions, worse still, some of the people offering training may have belonged to the KGB, GRU Spetznatz brigades, considered the only special forces of equal worth to our SAS. This doesn't sound like normal faction interest but sedition on the quiet...
Wearisome naivete
[info]nled63 wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 02:22 am (UTC)

"Viktor Yakushev, a giant man with a shaven head, who claims to have two higher degrees and is the DPNI's chief ideologue. "There's no denying the fact that different races have different cultural levels. You just have to look at how many black people are in prison in America, and that's after all these years of positive discrimination."

A Russian, claiming to hold two degrees & is quoted as Brod's "Chief Ideologue" believes that the US holds a vast number of black people in its prisons due to "cultural differences". Ergo, according to Yakushev, black Americans are guilty of belonging to a "different culture" & are therefore punished with a prison term. It is laughable to stand this simplistic interpretation of race relations in the US up against the true complexity of the issue, yet tragic that broad masses in every country are swayed by such wearisome naivete.
The rise of Russian Nationalism
[info]worldcup66 wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 06:00 am (UTC)
I must protest your comment that "Alexander Belov, Moscow's answer to the BNP's Nick Griffin"
How can you put these Nazi supporters in the same camp - you have NOT researched your comment well or you have a political slant, so can I suggest you visit Nick Griffins Party website and I challenge you to find one person in any of the photo's of members meetings from around the country that look like these people.
Sorry you are so wrong
Kind Regards
Peter
Re: The rise of Russian Nationalism
[info]theelectrician wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 08:17 am (UTC)
I was about to reply to this and mention ideology, methodology, etc to point out why I thought you were wrong. Then, I realised that your comment is in fact a mildly sophisticated ironic joke. I wish people wouldn't do this because I've already fallen for one like it in another article.
Re: The rise of Russian Nationalism - [info]jonny_socialist - Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 08:23 am (UTC) Expand
Russian nationalism
[info]hatjoug wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 06:33 am (UTC)
Whilst employed, recently, by a supranational organisation with emphasis on Russia, i hired a young Russian for my team. During a team building exercise i asked each to name an example of a great leader. He offered, with total sincerity, Stalin. When he and i visited Moscow, he demonstrated to me that nationalism extended well beyond extreme far right groups. Whilst attending a conference on political risks it became apparent that our friends in the west really do not grasp the Russian psyche and have contributed to the rise of nationalism. More thought and care is needed when dealing with Russia. They are proud and sensitive. Treat with them firmly but with respect and they will respond positively.
Re: Russian nationalism
[info]humanophage wrote:
Wednesday, 20 May 2009 at 10:30 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure how Stalin is an example of a nationalist leader, except if by nationalism you mean extreme statism. He was quite multiculturalist, and so are his supporters. Ethnic Russian nationalists are predominantly opposed to Stalin, who was not Russian. A good manifestation of that would be the recent great person poll in which nationalists would promote Nicholas II and Stolypin, whereas totalitarian state supporters would promote Stalin. I believe that, for some reason, you equate nationalism with totalitarianism and militarism, and do not associate it with the nation itself.
Russia for Russians, Moscow for Muscovites!
[info]stanley_oz wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 06:46 am (UTC)
Yeah - I heard all those slogans, back in the 90's.
Ever since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the nationalism that at one time was repressed by a regime that equally oppressed all "nationalities" irrespective of origin, had come to a boil.
The failure of the Russian Federal Government to clamp down on these nationalists I believe to be stemming not so much from "being unable" to address the problem, but rather being unwilling.
The lack of will is not to be confused with a support for their ideology, but rather a calculated, Realpolitik cynicism:
- Nationalists, including skinheads, are a valuable resource for the internal battle against Armenian, Azeri, Georgian, Chechen etc. mafias that currently hold sway in many regional capitals
- Nationalists are useful as instruments of "unpaid" control and intimidation over lefties, greenies, gays and anyone else that if sufficiently organised, may present a fifth column against the current populist government
- There is no coherent separation between the various Nationalist groups presenting a diverse tapestry of equally deluded and ideologically wrong right-wingers: there are Slavic skinheads, neo-Nazis, Cossacks, neo-Russian Orthodox nationalists, neo-Imperialists (think 19th century White-Gold-Black) etc.
- Finally - these nationalists are a convenient re-election ace-in-the-hole for the ruling party: United Russia. The party does make token noises about resolving this issue, however actual movement on the issue is glacial. Where there's a political motivation though, there will be action.

In the end - I believe that the negligence of authorities towards ensuring non-discrimination etc. in the Russian Federation, is a calculated, cynical, political strategy. Whatever may be said about the Government of Russia, to imply that the FSB may actually be worried or incapable of resolving this issue, must be taken with a grain of salt: the FSB had been and remains one of the world's most powerful security services in terms of absolute state-backing, executive and investigative powers and auditable accountability. To believe that every single neo-Nazi or skinhead in Moscow, can't be rounded up in a day and sent, following a very brief trial to a Siberian penal colony, would have to be the height of naivete.
There is no legal way for people to express their dislike for immigrants
[info]pragueteacher wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 07:10 am (UTC)
There is no legal way for people to express their dislike of immigrants - - and in this statement lies the real problem. If most Australian Aboriginals swear atrociously in public, someone saying that they do is branded a racist. If every time I see a gypsy in Prague they try to sell me something, saying so brands me as a racist.

I also object strongly to the inclusion of the term 'phobia' in such words as xenophobia and homophobia. As I understand it, phobia implies fear. Yet many people simply dont like homosexuals or foreigners, but most of these people certainly dont 'fear' them.

In a western world that shouts loudly about the right to free speech, there are few forums, including this one, that do not have a policy of editing. Where CAN ordinary people express their views. So called 'moderators' have become all powerful arbiters of debate.

Today, I'm going to a rally in Prague. It is to voice the opinion of ordinary Czechs that attacks on the Roma have got to stop. I strongly support that view. Everyone has the right to live safely and peacefully within this country.

But if a young female student says that she does not feel safe walking in her suburb at night because of gypsies, she is branded a racist. Why? Because she has the audacity to state what she believes to be true?

Such groups will continue to rise if we continue with this 'politically correct' nonsense that forbids people to express their views. Saying that I do not like gypsies constantly trying to sell me things is not the same as saying I want them all to leave the country, no do I want to go and burn their houses down. But I DO want to have the right to say it without being branded xenophobic or racist.
Re: There is no legal way for people to express their dislike for immigrants
[info]downtoearthguy wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 08:11 am (UTC)
Pragueteacher is correct,of course.Personally, I like a great deal of others don't like Pakistanis; they are a thieving,lying,drug-dealing people who should never have been allowed into this country.
There now,Ive said it..all you namby pamby lefties can now scream for the moderator.
Unbounded immigration
[info]amvet wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 08:45 am (UTC)
The nuts who claim open borders benefit a resident population have never talked to a Native American. Open borders benefit businesses because local wages are kept down. End of story. Amvet
Re: Unbounded immigration
[info]andre_t wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 09:06 am (UTC)
Native American like Apache, Cherokee, Sioux would agree with you!
Un stoppable demographic change will force Russia to adopt
[info]andre_t wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 08:46 am (UTC)
Racism will only get worse in Russia. According to one of many studies on the demographic changes in Russia, by the end of the next decade (2020 latest) the majority of recruits will have a muslim background. Simplistic extrapolation by the same study, by 2040 the Slavic population will be the minority in Russia.

Now see the efforts to change the army to a prof. system away from national subscription in a different light.

Re: Un stoppable demographic change will force Russia to adopt
[info]copycat7 wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 08:57 am (UTC)
Spread the polotics of fear!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Your "demographics" are strait from a right wing website idiot.
Sounds familiar...
[info]mikhalovich wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 01:34 pm (UTC)
This Russian anti-mmigrant discourse sounds familiar... just listen to Lou Dobbs' rants on CNN television every weekday night at 7pm EST.
nationalism
[info]igolem wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 02:07 pm (UTC)
so whats wrong with being a nationalist i love my country and its history is there something wrong with that shouldnt everybody who lives here be a nationalist if not what are they doing here rorting the system laughing at the do gooding social welfare system that allows them to send money back to their country that they love i wouldnt be surprised if indias new wealth wasnt financed by the social welfare system of britain wake up sheeple you are being conned nationalism is the only system that will put the gr8 back into britain the pendulim is swinging
Re: nationalism
[info]triffid2009 wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 06:22 pm (UTC)
If you're going to be nationalistic Igolem, then at least learn to use commas, full-stops, and capital letters. You are a disgrace to the English language.
Re: nationalism - [info]nightside242 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:37 am (UTC) Expand
Nationalism keeps out Zionist New World Order
[info]jewwatche wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 07:04 pm (UTC)
yes Ilike the fact that nationialists are on the rise maybe they will rise against Zbignew Breszinski and kissinger the jew controll anti russian freak
they are trying to divide the Russian continent to eat it up in little pieces
they backed the rose revolution and orange revolution and look at ukraine and Georgia today
broke hungry destitute worthless shills
they will do this in Russia if they had a chance
its nationalism that keeps the jew world order rif raf out!
god bless you russians
Stable Democracy
[info]herbairemedy wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 08:32 pm (UTC)
"some surveys show that up to 60 per cent of Russians agree with the slogan "Russia for the Russians", the catchphrase of Russian nationalists."

If Russia was a democracy, then the Russian government would give the Russian people the whites only immigration policy that they want. But of course, the wealthy oligarchs want their cheap, inexhaustible supply of imported labour.

If the Russian government had any sense, they would look at all the race rioting in countries like America, France, UK etc and see that multi-racialism is a stupid idea and that a whites only immigration policy is an entirely sensible idea.

They mistakenly believe that rising nationalism is a 'threat' to national security, but rising nationalism is simply a response to an undemocratic immigration policy that ignores the wishes of the majority of the Russian people. The real threat to national security is the undemocratic immigration policy. Give the Russian people the immigration policy they want and the 'threat' to national security will disappear.
UK is world's most deadly nation
[info]ianhoker wrote:
Sunday, 3 May 2009 at 09:29 pm (UTC)
I'm with the CIA. I still believe the world's bigest threat to democracy is the UK with it's twisted form of nationalism that is rife with anti-Americanism, marxism and at the same time willingly coddles the most radical elements of Islam.
More Jewish propaganda dressed up in drag as "news"
[info]frank_marshall wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 05:24 am (UTC)
It is noteworthy, first, that the above "article" (if one may actually call it that) in The Independent does not list the name of its author. That should come as no surprise, really, because no serious journalist should want his name attached to such obvious propaganda. The entire essay is laden with tendentious cant dressed up in drag as news.

There is no objectivity in this "article." It is simply crafted in formulaic fashion to lead the reader to but one conclusion..."Nationalism - bad, anti-nationalism - good." Any fact(s) or evidence which lead in any other direction are either left out of the article or they are distorted to fit the anti-nationalist template of the newspaper.

Nationalism is the will of the people. The leftists who write such shallow garbage as this article cannot change that fact. "Power to the people" is a nice concept, but in reality the people want nothing to do with Marxian notions of racial and economic communism. Long live the coming counter-revolution.
Real Immigrant Problem
[info]velshan wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 05:53 am (UTC)
The immigrant problem is being described here as racism or nationalism.
IT IS WRONG.

When the rich bring a servant from Philippines or Indonesia he does not provide a living to the immigrant but a life of a slave.

When Factories import cheap immigrants to work, they do not provide houses or proper living quarters or even enough wages.

THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM.
This immigrants sleep in streets and create ghettos.

I have seen this in Singapore, US, UK, France and also in Russia. The funny thing is during Soviet Union, immigrants at least had homes. I know of many azerbhaijan workers renting out their homes received during Soviet times and work and live inside their taxi to increase their income.

The world is not going in the right direction because World leaders are selling idotic ideas such as immigration to solve all problems. But the truth is immigration is a system only to reduce wages and reduce cost of running a business.

IT business are given to Indians not because Americans cannot do programming. But simply to transfer wealth out of US and into foreign Bank accounts.

The skinheads are simple people who reflect this truth. Solve the problem. Don't attack the messenger.
[info]andre_t wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 06:28 am (UTC)
According to the Soviet history books, over 70 nations fought in Stalingrad. The Soviet Union was a multi cultural country. Russia still includes many peoples of varying types, since Russia moved beyond its European borders in the 17th century. Sibiria has indigenous Turko-Mongol people, the Caucasus including Chechnia are Europeans but are considered "alien".

I think its simple, if Russia does not want these people in their country, then Russians and Russians (Caucasians are Russians, even against their will) can change places. Russia just needs to leave Siberia and the Caucasus etc.



[info]newdemocracy wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 10:58 am (UTC)
Yes, let's answer to Russian nationalism with European anti-Russian nationalism. You are the reason why Russians dislike Europeans so much. Really, thousands of bright people are trying to make connections between Europe and Russia, to prevent conflicts, to make people understand each other, than come you and send all this work to hell.
Thank you, good job!
[info]newdemocracy wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 10:46 am (UTC)
It's very interesting that you portray Belov as a kind of neonazi - this mean that you do not understand the situation in Russia and do not want to understand. Belov heads a movement which was formed as a response to the flow of illegal migrants from former Soviet republics - people, who come to Russia without documents, money, basic knowledge of Russian and ready to work for any payment. Often they are involved in criminal activity or victims of criminals. That Belov wants - and I hope most Russians with him - is a clear legal system for the labor market in Russia - maybe less strict than European one but still preventing the present situation. I am very suspicious about anybody who pictures Belov as neonazi as my first guess is that this man is paid by those criminal bosses who are making money on the human traffic.
who's that corrupt schmuck A.Brod ?
[info]basil_88 wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 06:08 pm (UTC)
that mean schmuck Brod who specializes on spying on people, shadowing them out of political preferences and "special orders", and sending dissidents to jails, got his fraudulent "charitable" 800 thousand EUR last year (from the grey bodies) to organize antirussian propaganda and hysteria... Very bad example to put as an argument, Sirs, very sad fuss showing mere lack of intellect...........
Russian 'free luanch' cause stomache indigestion
[info]pan_1000 wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 08:36 pm (UTC)
The Russians ruled over other people like Azars , Kazakh, Georgians, etc... The only countries don't suffer from the "nationalism" paranoia are usually those who had no colonies or empires-such as China, Korea and Japan, albeit Japan was short lived and lasted less than 100 years. The bottom line is if you don't want 'migrants' coming to your turf you shouldn't be in theirs to begin with. There is no such thing as "free lunch" when it come to exploitation and colonisation; it is just mirage-the rooster one day will come home to roost whether liked or hated.
What planet was this written on?
[info]pcbuster wrote:
Tuesday, 5 May 2009 at 01:07 am (UTC)
What galaxy is this writer from? It's feelgood liberaloid "tolerance"-mania that's the problem, not white-majority nations' desire to preserve their shreds of identity. Congratulations, commies, you've totally destroyed Russia and gagged your surviving victims. Now what?

All the ethnic commies fled the country claiming "persecution", many having become mobsters in Israel and the USA. Where will they run when they've made those countries smoking ruins in the name of "diversity"? I guess Greenland is scheduled to flip down to the equator about then -- maybe they can ruin it.
er one or two problems
[info]irishinrussia wrote:
Tuesday, 5 May 2009 at 11:47 am (UTC)
While the level of casual racism in Russia is worrying, nonetheless, its not that much worse than in western Europe, it's just more overt, and in this respect at least Russia is a much freer society, people can voice their views on these issues without fear. In Britain the BNP has grown but it is kept out of parliament by the British electoral system which favours two large, broadly similar parties. Furthermore the reason you won't hear people publicise racist views is due to fear of approbation or even legal problems, it is not because they don't hold these views. I lived in England for twelve years, 1987-1999, and experienced plenty of verbal abuse centred on my Irish nationality. Other countries like France and Germany are no better. Ireland has plenty of racists but very few minorities to direct its racism at. The level of racism in Russia is certainly not greater than in many other East European countries. The difference is that two decades of decay and corruption in law and order make it easier to get away with crimes here.

As for the claim 60% of Russians support the slogan "Russia for the Russians" well OMG what a surprise- you don't think you will find similar percentages supporting such slogans across Europe. There is one difference, here people supporting such slogans don't necessarily attach such slogans to the far right as we do because in Russia you can still love and patriotically support your country without being denounced as a fascistic, xenophobic, racist nationalist.

Finally the writer fails to highlight one of the reasons for the dislike of non-European gasterbeiters- their involvement in crime, both petty and organised. Of course this is predominantly due to the factors such as poverty, illegal status as residents and social exclusion. However it is impossible to deny that banditry and crime are more acceptable in certain cultures - this is not a judgement on race or cultural superiority, simply a fact. In tribal and semi-nomadic cultures theft, blood-feud and general crime are often acceptable when directed against those outside the community. Where this becomes particularly dangerous is in relation to the safety of women. Whether the PC brigad wants to accpet it or not, the peoples of the southern and eastern former Soviet Republics have a different idea about the position of women. While they may often be quite respectful of women from their own communities, they have a tendency to view white European women en mass as prostitutes. No doubt I will be castigated for saying this but these are almost exactly the words used by acquaintances of mine from the Caucasus and Central Asian states, as well as Turkey and while I was living in Paris, also several people I knew of North African origin.
While the racists of the FN, BNP and Russian right may be fascist and extremists, there are elements within the immigrant communities that do much to harm their communities image, and quite often much of the rest of the community passively or actively supports their actions, and certainly doesn't cooperate with the police against these people (and its not just fear or dislike of the police- in Ireland the IRA thrived because a large section of the population sympathised with them, without acting on this sympathy - ditto islamic terrorism in Britain - like it or not, thet truth is that if the muslim community in the UK cooperated fully with the authorities there would be no terrorist attacks - not that I think they are wrong, I think the roots of Irish, Basque, Palistinian and Islamic "terrorism" lie 100% in the actions of the Imperial Aggressors against these groups). The fact of the matter is that these people want to come and live in European countries, it is their job to adapt to the core values of our societies, especially regarding women. If they don't like our values they can crawl back into the hole they came from. I don't go to Afghanistan, Algeria or Tajikistan and expect them to let me live according to European law and custom. If Saudi says I can't drink, I don't drink, If Saudi says my wife needs a veil she wears a veil - if France says Muslims can't wear a veil at school, accept it or go live in Algeria.
Re: er one or two problems
[info]andre_t wrote:
Tuesday, 5 May 2009 at 07:53 pm (UTC)
the eastern and southern republics are still a part of russia if they like it or not - ask the chechens. if russia does not like them to be russia, just leave those areas, and then they can deport the "foreigners"
the caucasians are europeans! if russians dont like these people, leave siberia or the caucasus and nobody will miss you, goes for London too as far as I am concerned

Hail Russia88!
[info]pat_index wrote:
Tuesday, 5 May 2009 at 03:50 pm (UTC)
White Power! Death to ZOG! Sieg Heil!

http://www.rne.org
Nationalism
[info]antonygb1 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 03:00 pm (UTC)
So, what is wrong with the pursuit of nationalism? What is so wrong about wishing to secure the interests of one;s own indigenous peoples? The crying wolf over "racism" is a ploy by those who wish to see multiculturalism the norm. Well, that's a point of view but so is the opposite!

RE: er one or two problems
[info]theswordwhocuts wrote:
Thursday, 7 May 2009 at 05:09 pm (UTC)
irishinrussia, thank you for your wise commentary. It should be read and be paid attention to specially by the UK Home Secretary and the apparatchiks working at Number 10 Downing Street.

theswordwhocutsbothways
Santa Rosa, California
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[info]antiorginit wrote:
Sunday, 10 May 2009 at 01:19 pm (UTC)
hatjoug
I do not agree with you. How I can separate myself from Russia??? All is very mixed. It is necessary to say, that "branch" should be proved capitalism instead of nationalism. To change nationalism for nationalism - circulation on a circle. You offer this variant.
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