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The washing machine 'liberated women'

By Miranda Bryant

As International Women’s Day is celebrated, the Vatican had a novel message for the women of the world: give thanks for the washing machine. This humble domestic appliance had done more for the women’s liberation movement than the contraceptive pill or working outside the home, said the the official Vatican newspaper, Osservatore Romano.

“In the 20th century, what contributed most to the emancipation of Western women?” questioned the article. “The debate is still open. Some say it was the pill, others the liberalisation of abortion, or being able to work outside the home. Others go even further: the washing machine.”

The article is entitled, “The washing machine and the emancipation of women: put in the powder, close the lid and relax”, taking its name from the Washy Talky, the Electrolux bilingual-talking washing-machine launched in India seven years ago, which would remind the absent-minded housewife how to use the appliance.

The Catholic Church was never likely to laud the pill for its transformative power on women’s lives. Since Pope Benedict became the leader of the world’s 1.1 billion Catholics, he has published a religious document condemning contraception for “negating the intimate truth of conjugal love, with which the divine gift [of life] is communicated” and has urged pharmacists to refuse to dispense the morning-after pill. The Osservatore Romano held the pill responsible for polluting the environment and contributing to male infertility.

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SKRUBBERS
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 06:45 pm (UTC)

A SKRUBBA (Latin:CCRUBBER/CKRUBBER) IS AN YNGLISH WASHERWOMAN

HENCE THE OLD YNGLYSH EXPRESSION

OIYy, SKRUBBA
Well, it certainly wasn't the Catholic Church!
[info]neil_mcgowan wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 09:12 pm (UTC)
Bearing in mind the way the Brazilian Archbishop wanted a rape victim aged 9 to give birth to twins... which would certainly have killed her had she tried.

But then, Catholic churchmen are mostly usually mysogynic witless arseholes anyhow.
Re: Well, it certainly wasn't the Catholic Church!
[info]nellie_bly28 wrote:
Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 07:57 am (UTC)
Okay, no. Abortion is never okay. Carrying the babies to term may have been risky, but it may not have killed her, and the abortion most certainly killed the twins. Besides, an abortion procedure is a serious physical and emotional trauma - invasive and especially horrible and damaging for a nine-year old.

Catholic "churchman" are mostly not that, thank you very much. I hope someday that you meet many good priests, for there are many.
[info]advoc_8 wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 09:37 pm (UTC)
Ha I totally jumped to the wrong conclusion, I thought it was refferring to women sitting on the machine during the spin cycle....One of the first vibrators commonly available! I bet that liberated any women who'd never had an orgasm.
"The Vatican" did not say this
[info]rose_la_reine wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 10:31 pm (UTC)
The article in question (which can be read on line) was not a statement by "the Vatican." It is instead a piece of social commentary in the Osservatore Romano by a woman named Giluia Galeotti, who was reflecting on the absurdity of certain images and products promoted by the modern business world. Ms. Galeotti thought the instructions given by the Washy-Talky were amusing, if a little silly. It is too bad that the Independent does not have the sense of humor that Ms. Galeotti has, and cannot distinguish between a joke and the news. Of course, that DOES explain a lot -- but not about the Vatican...
Wahing Machine
[info]haywardsward wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 10:36 pm (UTC)
If someone had come up with the idea of a washing machine in the Middle Ages I feel sure that the Vatican would have been opposed to it as it would have left the women of a household with to much idle time on their hands, viz. the devil and idle hands.
As a male with a family of six and having always done most of the laundry in our household am I also allowed to feel liberated.
The washing machine, a good ga/slow combustion stove and the vacuum cleaner are the only domestic appliances without which I could not do.
All others are useful additions but not essential.

Re: Wahing Machine
[info]violetsmart wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 11:50 pm (UTC)
Right on, haywardsward! I am sure you're right. I was 9 years old and was interned in a convent of French nuns where I found, much to my surprise, that we girls were not allowed to shower individually, but had to have communal baths, in bathing suits, in a small pool supervised by a nun. Fortunately, I was too young to understand the nuns' evil thoughts!
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YNGLYSH VIKTORyYAN WOSHING MASHEENS
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 11:57 pm (UTC)

A BATHTUB MADE OF TIN
A SKRUBBING BOARD HADE OF WOOD
A SKRUBBER
A BAR OF SAOP
WATER
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[info]charityplayer wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 12:35 am (UTC)
IN OBSERVATORy ROMANO ROMANVM


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Re: KNOT SPOTTED IN ROME
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 12:44 am (UTC)

PY
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PYTHAGORAMUS
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YU KLYD
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Disappointed but not surprised
[info]dickmarg wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 02:20 am (UTC)
Why am I not surprised by this ruling? While I don't mind the automatic washing machine (I remember my mom's ringer machine in our basement) I just can't believe that this has been the most important advancement for women. Understand that I am a catechist (I teach religion to 6th graders), my 3 girls go to catechism, and I go to church. But the Catholic religion continues to ignore women's input at all turns... my mother practically killed herself having children before her priest... her PRIEST... told her it was fine for her to go on the pill in the early 1960s. A washing machine is great. The Vatican is greatly in need of having some female input into this. DUH.
Re: 8utt Knot Surprised
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 02:30 am (UTC)
U MUST B CYRYVC
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The Washing Machine ??
[info]rosiebond wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 02:52 am (UTC)
Dear boys n the Vatican - the Pill was more liberating than the washing machine.

The economy of the household improved when women were able to control the number of children in the family, take a good job and keep it without feeling obliged to endure "the divine gift" yet again. The opportunity to have a good matrimonial relationship was now available to a loving couple without the fear of having another child.

You fellows in your dresses scooting around in you tax-free haven with the wealth of art and money, are so removed from reality - it's impossible to see when you will be able to give any advice that makes any sense to us mortals on the outside !!!

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Re: The Washing Machine ??VULTURE EYE*
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 03:02 am (UTC)

JUST SPOTTED FROM GREENWYTCH

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Catholic Church & Washing Machines
[info]shelltomlinson wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 03:30 am (UTC)
What a bunch of out of touch, old men. I am "an escaped Catholic" Thank God I left the church. Best decision I ever made.
Re: THANGQKYNG GOD
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 03:52 am (UTC)
EVERY TYME U THANQK GOD U THANGQK YHOD
LATIN SKRYPT WAS INVENTED BY DGJHEWCSZ
JUST LYKE LATIN GNUMBURZ
U KAN LEAF THE TCHURTCH OF ROME,
BUT U KANGNOT GET AWAY FROM THE FAQKT THAT WOT U KALL GOD IS A DGJEWYSH WURD

IN
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AND THE WURD WAZ WITH YHOD
BKOZ YHOD IS YHID HID IN GHUDy YHUD
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Re: BHUDySSSA BRUTANyYA YN BRUTISH TOSH - [info]charityplayer - Monday, 9 March 2009 at 05:34 am (UTC) Expand
Re: BHUDySSSA BRUTANyYA YN BRUTISH TOSH - [info]charityplayer - Monday, 9 March 2009 at 05:37 am (UTC) Expand
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Re: Catholic Church & Washing Machines - [info]nellie_bly28 - Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 08:12 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Catholic Church & Washing Machines - [info]shelltomlinson - Sunday, 15 March 2009 at 02:05 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Catholic Church & Washing Machines - [info]nellie_bly28 - Sunday, 15 March 2009 at 05:11 am (UTC) Expand
Did you even read this issue of the Osservatore or Giulia Galeotti's article?
[info]togetherall wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 05:31 am (UTC)
Point one: Giulia Galeotti is not "the Vatican"

Point two: Philosophical musings on household appliances, the 1960's creation of the "super housewife", and a comparison of ancient communal clotheswashing to modern coin laundries do not constitute some kind of religious pronoucement.

Point three: Why was this fluff piece picked for examination, ignoring discussion of the more serious pieces in this issue, including the necessity of solidarity with the people of Zimbabwe, the alarming civilian casualties in Sri Lanka and Somalia, the UN irresolution on Sudan, the ancient and increasingly vital role of women in bringing faith and society together, and a reflection on ideas like "The Catholic Church... defends the possibility of equality in difference, considering this difference as a gift from God to humanity."?
Re: \/ I \/ /\
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 05:51 am (UTC)

VIVA LA DYFF
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And the wheel was mans greatest invention!
[info]forwardplanning wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 06:44 am (UTC)
Appears to me one of the messages this religions sect along with another noisy demanding one, is the oppression of women and to make them second class citizens!!
Re: BOVINE SPONGIFORM BRAIN MUTATIONS
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 07:03 am (UTC)
BOVINE SPONGIFORM BRAIN MUTATIONS
ARE ONE OF MANS* GREATEST KRyASCHIONSZ
Catholic History
[info]usaconcerned wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 07:14 am (UTC)
Before it was revealed how many Catholic priests were child molesters and sexual deviates, they stood side by side with Hitler and the Nazi movement. I realize that Giluia Galeotti was being witty with her social commentary which I do appreciate, but at the same time must point out the atrocities committed by this so called religious group in the name of God.
B.A. Brooks
U.A.F.F. Founder
http://www.uaff.us
Re: Catholic History
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 09:55 pm (UTC)
The Roman Catholic Church is responsible for more butchery and bloodshed than any religion other than Islam. From its attacks on differing sects, once the Emperor Constantine decreed (after personally convening the Council of Nicea) decreed that Christianity was the official religion of the empire, those who supported Trinitarianism took up swords to slaughter priests and prelates who opposed it (the Trinity was a concept that was generated in ancient pagan Egypt), and continued to massacre outspoken women as witches, demanded human sacrifices during the numerous crusades (the Childrens Crusade only saw the children crusaders sold into slavery), and continue with pogroms that had torture instruments that would have made Tony Blair and W Bush green with envy: the Iron Maiden, the Throne of Mental underwhich fires were stoked, the Bird Cage, etc. It was not until the absurd reign of Pius IX that the invention of the Immaculate Conception came to be an official teaching of the church--but such an Immaculate Conception goes back to the mythology of Isis in ancient Egypt who immaculately conceived and gave birth to her brother/husband.

The Roman Catholic Church, like Islam, was founded on hatred, born in lies, and grew up in terrorist actions. It accepts no dissent nor correction and is deaf to reason, blind to facts, and like Islam, the greatest threat to mortals everywhere.
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[info]rita1210 wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 07:57 am (UTC)
I, as a Woman, have only a few things to say.... Whichever church or God you believe in, you have absolutely no right to tell us, Women, what we can or can not do! Implying that the washing machine 'liberated' us is pure BS.

Frankly, I believe that the Vatican, given their anti-Women attitude over the centuries, is just petrified that the Women of this World are finally asserting themselves. Too bad.... we are half of this Planet's population and we expect to be recognized. Get use to it.................

Rita S
[info]nellie_bly28 wrote:
Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 05:47 am (UTC)
Are you kidding me? The Vatican is nothing but protective towards women. And your history sources must be mighty skewed, because the Catholic Church has ALWAYS, throughout the centuries, had a more positive and honoring attitude toward women than the prevailing culture of the day.

Pope Benedict XVI's global prayer intention (which he asks the rest of the Church to pray for also) for the month of March of THIS YEAR, 2009, is this: "That the role of women may be more appreciated and used to good advantage in every country in the world".

What is anti-Woman about that, you tell me???
role of women - [info]shelltomlinson - Sunday, 15 March 2009 at 02:14 am (UTC) Expand
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Wrong Again Miss Thing...
[info]forcepx wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 08:41 am (UTC)
ooooooo so sorry

To the question, In the 20th century, what contributed most to the emancipation of Western women?, the answer we were looking for is EDUCATION.

Yes, EDUCATION of Women remains the best path from poverty and abuse and is documented to be instrumental in the stabilization of birthrates.

The Vatican is a rogue nation.
Re: Wrong Again Miss Thing...
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Tuesday, 10 March 2009 at 01:31 am (UTC)
I will agree that education can be liberating, as long as religion is not enchained by the fantasies of religion, or is a part of "home schooling" by those less qualified to teach. The bible, like all holy books of all religions, have value only as a source of literature and fantasy. What is imperative is that education looks to real provable science and tested theories--where evolution is considered and the absurdity of creation removed except as an example of primitive ignorance.

Education must also include realistic health and sex education, where both male and female learn about reproduction and ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies. It must also include in the presentation of sexuality that homosexuality is genetic, not a choice--and one of the greatest virtues of homosexuality is that it is among nature's most perfect form of birth control.

War is neither glamourous not valid, and to teach it as a form of patriotism is to ignore the numerous civilian and military lives losts, property damaged and destroyed, and the loss of the tools of education--as with the burning of the Great Library at Alexandria, Hitler's Book Burning binges, and such.

The population explosion, the abuse of nature and greenhouse gasses must all be explored and understood along with ecology. Education must be for all people regardless of gender, age, or condition. Nothing must be accepted unless tried and proven. Religion pretends to have absolute answers and that automatically disqualifies it as any form of academic study except a review of absurdities and lies that fester to this day.
[info]freddycanada wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 11:34 am (UTC)
And what about the conjugal love the church REALLY supports: That between a 'celibate' priest, and a young boy.

The collapse of the Catholic Church could liberate so many....
Laundry day
[info]dav4is wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 12:45 pm (UTC)
Folks don't realize the extent that family laundry occupied the wife before mechanization. It was all-day, once-a-week, back-breaking labor. Those who could afford it hired a laundress. I remember my grandmother's washing machine, a wringer model that was not automatic, and it still took her 1/2 day for a family of two!

The automatic washer was certainly liberating!

(My cousin and niece were the ones pictured in that ad from (I think) Look Magazine. I guess that allows me to comment!)

-R.
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Surprise! It was not the washing machine
[info]screwcap wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 12:55 pm (UTC)
It was the rejection of religion which liberated women. Where religion is still strong - think Iran, for example - women are still enslaved.
Male Infertility?
[info]edjzet wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 02:29 pm (UTC)
"The Osservatore Romano held the pill responsible for polluting the environment and contributing to male infertility."

Why should the male, and on second thought female as well, readership of the OR be concerned about fertility? Aren't these people supposed to be celibate?
Got to admit
[info]andrea_2 wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 02:51 pm (UTC)
I love my washing machine. I love the idea of a piece of machinery getting on with the house work whilst I do something else. If only I could get the hoover to do the same.
Re: Got to admit
[info]misha1960 wrote:
Tuesday, 10 March 2009 at 01:08 am (UTC)
There is a robotic vacuum cleaner: the Roomba. Read about it; find it on google.
The Vatican and the Catholic Church
[info]adenophora wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 03:36 pm (UTC)
OH dear. What an idea - the washing machine was the greatest gift to liberation. I remember not having a washing machine, but I did have contraception (this back in the early 60s), and believe me, I loved my Pill. Without the Pill I would have been one of those women who produced a child every 10 months - not a life for anyone, including the children produced.
What crap!
[info]mvgrant wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 06:32 pm (UTC)
One wonders which single-digit century these prelates, these princes of the one and only true church, still live in. Well, I take comfort in the fact that they at least know there are washing machines.
Re: What crap!
[info]nellie_bly28 wrote:
Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 05:51 am (UTC)
A lay woman wrote this article. It was a satirical article.

Most "princes of the church" are very humble and down to earth men. I have met several of them. They do not live in the dark ages.
psychodiva
[info]psychodiva2 wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 06:33 pm (UTC)
what a load of Papal bull - what liberated us what freeing ourselves from those religions invented by men to keep us down- what liberated us was telling these priests and other men to go away (polite way) and getting ourselves educated- if this church had its way - and it still does in a lot of the world- we would just be breeding machines for thier imaginary friend's army and would still be uneducated and unable to read their so-called holy book for ourselves and realise what it ACTUALLY says
Re: psychodiva
[info]togetherall wrote:
Tuesday, 10 March 2009 at 12:48 am (UTC)
I'm glad you promote reading what a piece of literature actually says and not blindly following what uninformed people choose to pick out of it.

So maybe you could read what this issue of the Osservatore actually says, and explain to me why this humorous look at development of the over-commercialized 1960's "super housewife" stereotype is more worthy of discussion than the article about the large and increasingly important role of women in bringing the practice of the faith to their communities (or any of the other articles in the issue with a more serious tone.)

You might also want to tell the Italian journalist and legal historian who wrote the washing machine article that, with all these men beating her down, her law degree is useless and she might as well give up on finishing her doctorate.
Washing machines
[info]marcind wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 07:31 pm (UTC)
Sitting on a spinning washing machine is to be recomended. The catholic church can feel safe in this promotion as there is no need of contraception.
Benedict XVI was a Nazi youth
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 09:44 pm (UTC)
Who was taught that a woman's primary purpose for being on this planet was to procreate. His theological studies in Nazi Germany continued the same line of irrationality, and he has long been a weak beam in the Roman Catholic hierarchy--promoted to the pinnacle as pontiff only because most hoped he would not live long enough to do much damage. But Benedict has surprised everyone, and now rattles the rantings of the Third Reich and its attitude towards women (Hitler forbade abortion). Benedict, unfortunately, cannot be impeached, and he does not have enough sense to resign, so the Roman Catholic Church will continue its downward spiral--as the theologian Hans Kung so rightfully and cogently noted in his interview with the German media.

The cardinals who surround him are even worse than he, and if any of them becomes pope the world will see the final erosion and dissolution of the Roman Catholic Church.
Re: Benedict XVI was a Nazi youth
[info]nellie_bly28 wrote:
Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 05:56 am (UTC)
Pope Benedict XVI is a gift to the church and the world. He is an excellent teacher, and I, for one, am listening to him. Have you listened to what he actually has to say? You may be surprised at its lucidity. Unless, of course, you prefer insanity, in which case, don't bother.

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[info]claudiapeps wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 10:50 pm (UTC)
With comments like these, the Catholic church will sooner than later find itself preaching atop milk boxes..... Myself a devout Christian and Catholic by birth am absolutely appalled and insulted by the Church's total lack of knowledge of what it is to be a woman. In 2009, they still want to reduce women to temptresses, adulterers and laborers with no mind of their own. This is the second disgusting news I've heard today after the little Brazilian girl who'se mother was excomunicated.

I am seriously considering removing myself from this cult of ignorant, mysoginistic ruling. To think I wanted to be a nun as a child.....
TUNE IN AND LISTENAGAIN
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 11:48 pm (UTC)
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