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Richard Ingrams’s Week: We could learn a thing or two from the French

A schoolboy who recently joined an anti-Scientology demonstration in London had his name taken by the police when he refused to lower a placard which called Scientology a cult. Luckily the case against him was dropped after the human rights organisation Liberty intervened on his behalf.

It seemed that the police force, senior members of which have been known to speak in support of Scientology, have swallowed the official line that it is not a cult but a religion. Scientologists have cunningly helped to promote this idea by calling themselves a church and even including the cross as part of their logo. Small wonder that the BBC's highest paid presenter, Jonathan Ross, pictured, himself a great admirer of Tom Cruise, has recently expressed the view that there is not much to choose between Scientology and the Church of England.

The French authorities, however, have a rather more robust attitude towards this dangerous pseudo-church. This week a French judge imposed a massive £545,000 fine on the organisation and gave its leader a two-year suspended sentence for using fraudulent medical claims in order to attract young recruits. The judge went on to order publication of her ruling in the international press to ensure that "victims can be warned about the methods of Scientology".

Nothing of the kind is likely to happen in this country where the Scientologists have been lobbying for some time and with some degree of success for the right to claim charitable status, with the hope that, once classified as a religion, they can be protected from abuse by people like myself.

The tawdry truth about drugs

The now-sacked Professor Nutt, who not long ago decreed that taking ecstasy was no more dangerous than riding a horse, has this week issued some further thoughts on the drugs issue. The professor was chairman of the govern ment-sponsored Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs until he was fired yesterday by the Home Secretary for overstepping the line between "scientific advice and policy" by suggesting that tobacco should be classified as a more dangerous drug than cannabis, LSD and ecstasy. "We have to provide more accurate and credible information," Nutt insisted.

It is a worthy aim, though it may not be all that helpful to play down the dangers of all these drugs. There's no point in scaring kids, says Professor Nutt. But, all the same, it might be good for them to be told the sad truth about some of their heroes and role models.

The death of the Boyzone singer Stephen Gately, left, was described as "just a tragic accident" by a family spokesman and the impression was widely given that the 33-year-old singer passed away on the settee as the result of some unfortunate and unspecified genetic defect. This was no doubt a comforting version of events not just for his family and fans but also for the businessmen who market Gately's profitable pop music.

It later transpired that Gately had consumed alcohol and cannabis on the night of his death – a combination which is well known to result in heart attacks, although the coroner found that he had died of natural causes. Regardless of what Professor Nutt may say, it might have been better if young people had been told that instead of being fed a lot of sentimental guff about a saintly young Irishman. As Elton John's civil partner David Furnish put it at the funeral, "I sometimes think that God wants the good, pure souls early. I can't make sense of it any other way."

Sing from the same hymn sheet

It is hard to make out exactly what the Pope has in mind by offering so-called traditionalist Anglicans the chance to defect en bloc to the Catholic church. He seems to think that Anglican congregations are all of one mind, either for or against, when it comes to issues such as gay priests and women bishops, whereas it is quite hard to find two Anglicans who can agree with one another on anything at all.

The Vatican is also offering would-be defecting Anglicans the right to retain their own liturgies. The Pope and his advisers don't seem to be aware that the Church of England long ago did away with its liturgy, dispensing with its Book of Common Prayer and replacing it with drab contemporary rubrics and encouraging vicars to introduce their own – usually banal – prayers into the services whenever they felt the urge.

There is only one thing that the Church of England still retains which is far and away superior to anything the Catholics have got, namely its hymn book. Catholic hymns are a generally dismal and dreary collection, most of the words and music being the work of deservedly forgotten Irishmen.

By contrast, Anglican hymn books, of which there are now quite a few, contain a wonderful selection of new and old hymns with words by famous poets such as George Herbert and tunes by great composers such as Vaughan Williams, pictured, and Gustav Holst.

If the Pope genuinely wants to win over dissident Anglicans, he should issue a decree ordering the burning of all Catholic hymn books and their adoption of the CofE alternative.

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Stephen Gately
[info]tinyclanger86 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:05 am (UTC)
It later transpired that Gately had consumed alcohol and cannabis on the night of his death – a combination which is well known to result in heart attacks, ALTHOUGH THE CORONER FOUND THAT HE HAD DIED OF NATURAL CAUSES. Regardless of what Professor Nutt may say, it MIGHT HAVE BEEN BETTER IF YOUNG PEOPLE HAD BEEN TOLD THAT instead of being fed a lot of sentimental guff about a saintly young Irishman.

As a 'young person', I was told that. I was told that he died of natural causes, as you point out yourself. If he "consumed alcohol and cannabis on the night of his death" - so what? Countless numbers do so on any given night... Might want to look up SADS, darling.

Don't dare touch Gately as a subject in a quite obviously un-sympathetic manner. The "comforting version of events" - nothing about these events are comforting, sir. All you've done is added your name to the list of writers out to cause ill-feeling... plus you managed to contradict yourself in your own article, so nice job there. Bash drugs researchers and rip apart religion as much as you feel you have to but leave Stephen out of it; he was a good man who did a lot for other people in this world. I hope one day someone can say the same for you.
A crime is a crime
[info]purplegraciegrl wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:33 am (UTC)
The religious status of Scientology (or the Church of England) is irrelevant. If a church commits a crime, it should be tried in a court of law for it. Scientology was fraudulent and it was held to account in France. I hope that the UK justice system would do the same, no matter whether the church were recognised religion or not.
The anti-Irish Mr Ingrams
[info]liam_ohuigin wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:45 am (UTC)
Two disdainful reference to Irish people in the course of three subjects today suggests something unpleasant in Mr Ingams' psyche. tinyclanger86 has already referred to the distasteful remarks about Stephen Gately. I would just like to ask how Ingrams' argument case that Catholic hymns are inferior to Anglican ones is advanced by dismissing the composers of most of them (which isn't even true) as "deservedly forgotten Irishmen". Would the Independent have been happy to print "deservedly forgotten Englishmen, Scotsmen and Welshmen": there are certainly many composers of those nationalities represented in Catholic Hymnals who are not household names. I think you're a racist, Mr Ingrams.
Anglican Hymns
[info]neilcarr1 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:58 am (UTC)
Mr Ingrams may be right about the words of Protestant Hyms but unfortunatelty the melodies and harmonies are overwhelmingly dreary, drab and miserable. My dear mother, after singing a hymn with a gloomy melody, can often be heard to mutter, "must be a protestant hymn that."
naughty mr ingrams
[info]tendryakov wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 10:21 am (UTC)
Naughty Mr Ingrams - you said something vaguely about Saint Gateley. You have to remember that the behaviour of gay people can never be reprehensible because, well, they're saints.
Re: naughty mr ingrams
[info]lkdamo wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 05:29 pm (UTC)
Ye it was very reprehensible of him to die of natural cuases.
Redneck!
Re: naughty mr ingrams
[info]colinru wrote:
Sunday, 1 November 2009 at 01:15 pm (UTC)
You just proved tendryakov's point!
[info]bagpuss76 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 10:43 am (UTC)
I have to agree with tinyclanger86, the mention of Gately in this article is unnecessary really., not to mention not entirely factually accurate. This young man was on holiday with his husband, and like most people do (including the writer of this piece no doubt) he went out for a few drinks and visited a couple of nightclubs the night before his death. he may or may not have smoked a joint of cannabis (reports stating this as a fact are, in actual fact unverified reports from that great old media friend 'a source', rather than directly from the coroner's office themselves, and even then the idea that smoking the odd joint of cannabis in a blue moon is a health issue is ludicrous. The coroner found he died of natural causes and explicitly ruled out drink or drugs as being a factor in his death, making it a moot point. It is true that Stephen's family in the days after his death but before the autopsey called it a 'tragic accident' but I am not clear why it is felt that his family's first thoughts upon being bereaved should be to disclose to the press every last detail of how this young man spent his final night.
[info]brugnac wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 08:14 pm (UTC)
Do "most people" also bring back a Bulgarian boy, who reportedly spent the night in the "husband`s" room, leaving wifey on the couch ?
facts and good stories....
[info]lkdamo wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 05:31 pm (UTC)
often don't mix.
[info]sexitoni wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 05:52 am (UTC)
Oh dear Mr Ingrams - I have been a fan of yours for such a long time... it pains me to read your Moir-ish rubbish about the death of Gately. Yet another journalist with zero medical or scientific expertise has the gall to casually dismiss the work of a professional (in this case the coroner) from the comfort of your desk, simply because what they say doesn't fit nicely with what you'd like to believe.

Similarly with Professor Nutt. Despite the manner in which you have represented what he said about ecstasy being less dangerous than horse riding, the professor was merely making a statistical point designed to show that consuming MDMA does not constitute the level of danger that its classification implies. When he stated this week that the separation of alcohol and tobacco from cannabis is artificial from a health point of view he was speaking the truth - it is an easily verifiable scientific fact. If that fact doesn't sit comfortably with people's morals that's their problem - he wasn't making a moral judgement.

It would be a supreme pleasure if the Humanities graduates working in the media were just modest enough to accept that matters of scientific research are generally beyond their penmanship, rather than returning, time and again, to topics in which they flounder, out of their depth, spluttering in the hope they'll be noticed.

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