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Countering online radicalisation: Is government censorship effective?



Tim Stevens, co-author of a report called Countering Online Radicalisation and Dr Peter Neumann from the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence at King's College London look at the challenge of tackling online radicalisation and support for terrorist groups, and ask whether government censorship is an effective solution.

This series has been made specially for Independent.co.uk by Ember Regis.

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[info]voodoojedizin wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 01:20 pm (UTC)
The picture for this article obviously shows the face of a Muslim. But there are radicals of all colors and races and religions online and some being supported by their own governments.

There are many hate mongers and religious radicals in the United States as well as Britain Germany and many other countries.

Watch some of the religious shows in America if you wanna see some extreme radicals.
Listen to some of the radio talk show hosts if you want to listen to some hate mongers that spread propaganda and misinformation, and the government knows it and will not stop it.
The most dangerous radicals
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 03:20 pm (UTC)
who would deny human rights and freedom of choice are religions: Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and so forth. Their prelates, pastors, priests, rabbis, mullah, etc. all preach hatred--from Kansas USA"s Westboro's Christian Church to the new archbishop of New York City, to the mad clerics of Islam in Iran, Iraq, and elsewhere. No one is safe as long as religion exists, for the purpose of religion is to feed the officiants of the religion at the expense of the gullible who work for them in hope of obtaining an illusionary salvation in an unproven afterlife.

It is in the name of the gods/goddesses and religion that the greatest crimes against humanity have been committed. The myth of the Old Testament Joshua laid waste the lands of Canaan that the ancient Hebrews stole, to be matched by the nefarious Christian and Islamic crusaders from 800 to 1500, the 30 Years War in Europe between Lutherans and Catholics and then other Protestants, to the martial activities between Sunnis and Shiites in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Moslem World. No religion has ever had tolerance of others, nor has any religious person had the commonsense to work for the commonweal. All religions are parasites sucking the blood out of mortalkind.
Re: The most dangerous radicals
[info]cromwell99 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 06:28 pm (UTC)
You Sir obviously seem to hate religious people as much as you think they do you.

There have been more people killed in the Communist purges of Russia, China and the Nazi's then killed by religious groups. And those groups were not religious. They were Statist's.

We have wars because people lust over what others have. To conclude that religious people are worse then any other group of people is absurd.
Re: The most dangerous radicals
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 09:38 pm (UTC)
I do not know what a "Statist" is... please enlighten. But if you add up the host of humans slaughtered in the Crusades (The Christains decapitated women, children, elderly, plus men in Jerusalem, poured their blood into the Church of the Holy Mount, then road in human blood up to their horses bridles; the forces of Suleiman, according to Arab accounts, slaughtered over 4 million; Czarist Russia eliminated entire villages and towns in the name of Russian Orthodoxy, the Jews, if you believe in the Old Testament, slew over 9 million (if you add up all the carnage stories), etc), plus the millions murdered in the New World by the Dominicans, Franciscans and their sponsors the Spanish, not counting the infamous Inquisition's torture and murder record, for a total of more then 30 million people, plus add to that the religious wars in ancient China, etc. and they exceed what the Nazis, Russian Socialists (communists were the ancient Christians Acts 2:42-44), etc. did. Religion has been--for those who study it--the greatest curse on this earth and killed far more than all wars for land and greed.
Re: The most dangerous radicals
[info]arthur_ide wrote:
Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 04:35 pm (UTC)
Ever read about the 30 Years War in Europe? or the Inquisition? or Martin Luther's "Address to the German Nobility" or Menno Simmons "On the Heretics, the Lutherans and Catholics" or the Hugenots and France? You are overly simplifying the role of religion, for when the pagan Emperor Constantine made Christianity the official religion of his empire (he was baptised under protest on his death bed), it was to stop the bloodshed between bishops and slaughter of religious followers--and what happened after that was a general bloodbath of Arians, Sabellians, and other non-orthodox followers (see Iraeneus' Apologia and his call for cutting the heads off dissidents). Islam returned the favor when the madman Mohammad (actually a mythical figure much like Moses and Jesus) took up weapons to conquer Yathrib (Medina) and put to the sword all who would not convert--to be followed by 200 years of pogroms throughout the Arabian pennisula. Then there were the Turks who fought the Romanians (and Vlad Tepes [Dracula]) in the name of god, etc. Religion and religious people have killed more mortals than have the forces of Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany.

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