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Mary Dejevsky: Women's rights cannot be forced on Arab societies

It's over-optimistic to believe prosperity will bring a complete change in outlook

Tuesday, 22 April 2008

In a tentative lifting of the mystical curtain it has drawn around itself, Saudi Arabia recently permitted the estimable campaign group, Human Rights Watch (HRW), to conduct a survey inside the country. Its findings – reported in yesterday's Independent – are pretty much as you would expect.

The country's "male guardianship of women and policies of sex segregation stop women from enjoying their basic rights". Women are treated like "legal minors" who are not entitled to authority over their own lives or those of their children. They must "often" – note, though, that this is "often", not "always" – receive permission from a man to work, travel, study, marry or consult a doctor.

Now I am sure that all this is true. I have no illusions about the status of the fair sex in the Saudi kingdom, or indeed in many other Muslim countries. By and large, women there do not enjoy the rights and opportunities their Western sisters take for granted.

Where I diverge from Human Rights Watch – and the Western liberal consensus it represents – is in its rallying cry of a conclusion. "Saudi women," says HRW's researcher, with the admirable urgency of the committed, "won't make any progress until the government ends the abuses that stem from these misguided policies."

I am sure that HRW thinks it is being moderate and pragmatic in calling for an end only to the "abuses" rather than the sum of "misguided policies" this country pursues.

In so saying, however, the campaigners are not only judging Saudi Arabia by standards it would consider alien, but demanding that it forsake the whole philosophical, cultural and social system on which it is built. That is, to put it mildly, unrealistic.

We Westerners might not like it, but there are only two ways that change of such profundity is going to come about. One is by the same small, gradual stages that ended the ducking stool in Europe and eventually brought us property rights and the vote. The other is by revolution, with all the chaos and upheaval that would entail.

Neither eventuality should be excluded. But it would be overoptimistic to believe that prosperity, Western-style development and education will necessarily bring about the complete change in outlook that the adoption of Western-style gender equality would require. Even if, which I doubt, we were to witness mass burnings of chadors or burqas in Riyadh, many social norms of Islam are likely to endure.

I say this after a short visit to Qatar, one of the most liberal and fast-developing of the Gulf states. In Qatar, as in Bahrain and more recently Kuwait, women may vote and stand for office. Women completely covered from head to toe mingle, apparently without noticing, with others in Western dress. Women work outside the home; they are high-powered professionals, as well as lowly manual workers.

The pace of new building in the capital, Doha, is breathtaking. Vast tracts of land have been reclaimed; high-rise and low-rise developments jostle for space; hotels, offices and housing – everything is shiny and new. Even the old souk has been demolished and rebuilt to make it more ordered and hygienic. The big complaint from residents is about night-time drilling: business responds that it is too hot to work many hours by day.

What is most striking, however, is that all this frenetic development has not displaced certain basic principles of social and religious life. Major – mostly Western chain – hotels are built with separate chapels for men and women. Guest rooms are equipped with prayer mats and a discreetly placed arrow, showing the direction to Mecca. Meat is Halal; drinks are soft; al-Jazeera presents the regional take on world news.

What Qatar shows is that it is quite possible to have prosperity, development and education while retaining principles that might be thought incompatible. New technology – computers, mobile phones, satellite communications – is ubiquious. But it can be harnessed as effectively to someone else's priorities and worldview, as it can be to ours. To operate an iPod does not require a Western outlook. Your ringtone might be the Muslim call to prayer.

The view that women in a Muslim society necessarily enjoy fewer rights than we do may or may not be true. I am repeatedly told by British Muslim women that the Koran is highly protective of women – interpretation, of course, is all. But when campaigners demand an end to such "misguided" policies as segregation by sex, what they are actually saying is that Western ways rule. One look at the newly prosperous Gulf states should call that assumption into question.

m.dejevsky@independent.co.uk

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i want ask a simple qustion directed to the western socity (do you belive that what you have reached in your life style could be considered is the best for you and other ) if your answer is yes then please go back to your statices figures and see what is rate of crime,deforce....................abuse) say and then you can judge .
regards

Posted by ahmed assiri | 24.04.08, 04:37 GMT

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It is time we develop the sensationalist discussions Western society is having about Islam and Muslims - It is time we question the assumption that secular liberal values are the only way to progress in the modern world. A statement which may conjure shock horror and images of Saudi style repressive politics. But no, I actually don't refer to any of the current Muslim, routinely oppressive, corrupt regimes when I ask this question. Instead I refer to a rich Islamic political history where implementation of what some may call orthodox Islam created progressive, harmonious societies for centuries which fully embraced technology. Where women worked, voted, were active in society - but not exploited. I feel it's high time to step outside this notion that all ideas of progression and politics must fall within secularism and liberalism to be counted as credible. Isn't that aginst the very concept of freedom of ideas and thoughts that liberalism prides itself on?

Posted by Shohana | 23.04.08, 18:30 GMT

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This is a simple moral question about what is right and what is wrong. It is easy to answer: the way the Saudis treat their women is wrong. Women are equal to men. End of argument. No more "debate and dialogue" needed.

Posted by Mikko Takala | 23.04.08, 14:29 GMT

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At last, I am so glad you have written on this assumed topic and shed light on it from another perspective. I'm a muslim woman ;iving in a western society, I'm saddened by the picture normally dipicted of muslim women as being entrapped in a male dominated society. Since we assume all that is pulished especially about Islam is true, the whole picture isn't ever seen.
Most of the people in the western world have been lead to believe that what they perceive as right is right, BUT one very simple fact that diversity is the spice of life. it is not wrong to have your own believes and culture.
As you say change will happen if it is what the women want, there is no reason to force change on societies because their way of live isn't what we like, that's not justified.

Posted by kausar | 23.04.08, 11:58 GMT

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crap article no insight or knowledge or understanding,shagging the boss?

Posted by lord haw haw | 23.04.08, 08:54 GMT

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Interesting point of view. Did she bother to find out that a place of worship in Islam is called a mosque not a chapel.

I think that sums up her 'insight' into the world of women (and men) in Arabia.

Posted by Catherine Lonie | 23.04.08, 07:07 GMT

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This article demonstrates that it's far easier, and, on the *Independent* op-ed pages more rewarding, to indulge in moral relativism than to challenge injustice.

It's been obvious for years that many Western feminists instinctively choose the self-loathing anti-Western dogma of their youth over the desire to promote human rights. They are fellow travellers to the deranged anti-Bush liberals who are happier to abandon Iraqi democrats to Iran, AQI and the gangsters than to support their freedom.

With friends like Ms Dejevsky, Muslim women don't need male oppressors.

Posted by Ted Tedford | 23.04.08, 05:28 GMT

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I think one implication of this article is that Arab women themselves are capable of forging their own battles. They struggle the same way women do everywhere of what it means to be a means to your own ends. I found the article interesting and the argument well crafted. If everyone would stop hyperventilating long enough to listen to what she says. And stop reading descriptive passages as prescription.

Posted by Deborah | 23.04.08, 01:45 GMT

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http://dealjoin.blogetery.com/2008/04/22/hello-world/ this is my first post on blog

Posted by ingiborishka | 22.04.08, 21:25 GMT

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Why on earth should anyone in the West become involved how Islamic states treat their women, personally I am fed up with Christian countries trying to impose democracy or what we consider civilised Christian values on Muslims.
Let them evolve in their own time, let them fight for their own equality as did the suffragettes here in the UK and in their own good time let them reflect on how silly it all looks to the rest of the world. Let them cover themselves from head to foot in black duvets, personally I couldn't care less as long as when they come here they adopt our way of life (or else why come here).

Posted by doomstone | 22.04.08, 17:36 GMT

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