Patrick Cockburn: The commander is right... you'll never beat the Taliban
In Afghanistan the US policy has been catastrophically misconceived
Tuesday, 7 October 2008
The first serious talks between the Afghan government and the Taliban took place 10 days ago in Mecca under the auspices of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. During the discussions all sides agreed that the war in Afghanistan is going to be solved by dialogue and not by fighting. The Taliban leader, Mullah Omar, was not present but his representatives said he was no longer allied to al-Qa'ida.
The admission by a senior British Army commander, Mark Carleton-Smith, over the weekend that absolute military victory in Afghanistan is impossible has been overtaken by the talks in Mecca. "If the Taliban were prepared to sit on the other side of the table and talk about a political settlement, then that's precisely the sort of progress that concludes insurgencies like this," said Brigadier Carleton-Smith. "That shouldn't make people uncomfortable."
This sounds as if Britain's latest military venture in Afghanistan is going to end in a retreat with none of its ill-defined objectives achieved. In the US, an understanding of the real situation on the ground has been slower to come. John McCain and Barack Obama still speak as if a few more brigades of American soldiers sent to chase the Taliban around the mountains of southern Afghanistan would change the outcome of the war.
US policy in Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein has been constantly denigrated as a recipe for self-inflicted disaster. But President Bush's policy in Afghanistan in the wake of the fall of the Taliban was just as catastrophically misconceived. In both countries the administration's agenda was primarily geared to using military victory to make sure that the Republicans won elections at home.
The Taliban has always been notoriously dependent on Pakistan and on the Pakistani military's intelligence service (ISI). It was the ISI which openly propelled the Taliban into power in the 1990s and covertly gave its militants a safe haven after their retreat from Afghanistan in 2001, enabling them to regroup and counter-attack.
But at the very moment this was happening Mr Bush was lauding the Pakistani government of General Pervez Musharraf, which had fostered the Taliban, as America's great ally in its war on terror. The self-defeating absurdity of this policy has not struck home in the US as did the debacle in Iraq though it is obvious that so long as the Taliban have a vast mountainous hinterland in which to base themselves, they will never be defeated.
The presence of foreign troops was always more popular in Afghanistan than in Iraq. The Afghans have a deep loathing for their warlords. But no foreign occupation force, particularly if reliant on ill-directed air attacks and engaged in combat, stays popular for long. This is particularly true if the foreign troops do not, in fact, deliver security. Meanwhile their presence means that Taliban fighters can portray themselves as patriots battling for their country and their faith.
The overthrow of the Taliban in 2001 was never quite what it looked like. Soon after they had given up the fight, I drove from Kabul to Kandahar along one of the world's worst-built roads. The Taliban were adroitly changing sides or going home as local deals were hammered out.
Casualties on both sides were mercifully low. In the ancient town of Ghazni, an accord on the end to Taliban power was only delayed because of a disagreement on how many government cars they could retain. In a village outside Kandahar, I asked a local leader if he could gather some former Taliban for me to meet and in half-an-hour the village guest house was full of confident and dangerous-looking fighters. I thought it would not take much for them to make a comeback.
Yet they would not have been able to do so without the blunders of the White House and the Pentagon. By invading Iraq they convinced General Musharraf that it was safe to give support to the Taliban once again. There were enough foreign troops in Afghanistan to delegitimise the Afghan government but not enough to defeat its enemies. Chasing Taliban fighters around the hinterland year after year only led to the insurgency expanding. The talks in Saudi Arabia are a long way from negotiations but they are a sign that the present political logjam might be beginning to break.
Brigadier Carleton-Smith's forthright admission that there can be no outright military victory also shows realism. The best route for Britain and the US in Afghanistan is to have modest and attainable objectives combined with a recognition that, in its struggle for survival, the Afghan government must fight and win its own battles.
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Great piece! Iran also argues that there is no military solution in Afghanistan, and it is willing to carry out more development projects that are needed for economic growth and stability.
Posted by James Canning | 07.10.08, 23:45 GMT
Well form is if you feck up badly enough you either get shot or a medal. So George & Tone get a medal then. along with the Penguin & the scary fairground owner off of Scooby Doo. (Cheney & Rumsfeld )
Posted by RSBridgman | 07.10.08, 21:54 GMT
Well ; there's nothing left to do for the americans and their allies than to pack and quit.
I just don't know whom actually are the most irresponsible : I mean are they the americans themselves or their local supporters?
whatever's the case, the final outcome is a real tragedy for all the poor people that struggle over there, fully stuck between the rock and the hard place, not mentioning the real and complete failure of all the original so-called noble objectives of all wars launched within this region as a follow-up of the sept. 11th event.
As a real moderate and modern middle-aged muslim man, I can tell you America has lost much more than what can already be seen from much viewers ( and which is already a lot ).
Posted by driss jaidi | 07.10.08, 19:31 GMT
"It was the ISI which openly propelled the Taliban into power in the 1990s"
Er, Patrick, I think you want to check your facts as this was a joint venture between the ISI and CIA and the CIA provided the lions share of weapons, funding and training to both its creations: the Taleban and Al Qaeda.
Whilst we are on this subject perhaps you would like to reflect that Osama Bin Laden was known socially to President Bush who attended the youngest Bin Laden's wedding and was also in business with him and amongst the few planes flying on 9/11 its curious that some of these were evacuating the remaining Bin Laden family to Saudi Arabia.
The last invader to hold Afghanistan was Alexander the Great, since then all attempts to garrison this nation have failed, America has too little brain, too much Rambo to garrison this place.
Posted by Ian Watson | 07.10.08, 18:22 GMT
Whoever we can do business with, that will do for us. We don't care if they violate human rights because that's exactly what we do. If the financial elite decides foreign armies out of Afghanistan will be best for business (theirs) then expect to see a lot more of these articles in the media in the coming months.
Posted by Bill | 07.10.08, 17:59 GMT
No sh*t sherlock!
Posted by RSBridgman | 07.10.08, 16:36 GMT
If the West gives up its evengilical zeal to liberalise idiots stuck in the 17th century, it will loose the benefits of prosperity. The engine at the front of the train exists for a purpose, its so it can pull up the rest of the trailing bits.
Even if its a fight that can't be won, we need to continue fighting the fight for liberalism. This fight need not feature weapons, it can be fought with ideas.
However, any strategic advantage that the West dreams of in the elevated plateau of Afghanistan is probably not going to materialise.
Posted by Suhasini Sakhare | 07.10.08, 16:31 GMT
The surprise exceeds me as such a simple answer was not thought of at the start. The complete campaign has been a disaster with extortionate numbers of casualties and no objectives achieved. All this time and money wasted when it was obvious victory wasn't capable from the start.
The resultant of such a war leaves shame on the invaders.
Posted by Karim | 07.10.08, 16:14 GMT
Congratulations, Brigadier Carleton-Smith.
You have brilliantly and expertly managed to figure out what every ordinary, everyday Tom Dick and Harry knew at the start of all this mess.
If only you'd listened. You could have saved all this misery. Imagine that.
Posted by Tom Dick & Harry | 07.10.08, 13:03 GMT
Sensible people said that before we rushed in where angels fear to tread. One simply cannot charge into other countries and dictate how they should live and expect to be thanked. Especially when the damage caused is casually tossed off as "collateral damage". It is all a huge waste of money really. As the Russians found out decades ago.
Posted by Duncan MacGregor | 07.10.08, 11:59 GMT
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