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Belfast mob 'threatened to kill Romanian children'

Twenty families forced into emergency accommodation after vicious attacks

By David McKittrick in Belfast

Families were forced to flee their homes following days of violent racist attacks in Belfast and spend the night sheltering in a church hall

AFP

Families were forced to flee their homes following days of violent racist attacks in Belfast and spend the night sheltering in a church hall

More than 100 Romanians evacuated from their homes in Belfast following a sustained campaign of racist intimidation and violence were last night in emergency accommodation in the city.

Some of the men and women of the 20 families affected were injured in incidents which included bricks being thrown through windows, while one man said intruders had threatened to cut a child's throat.

The surge of intimidation was said by locals to be the work of "a small group of racist thugs" who had terrified the Romanian families living in two south Belfast streets. Politicians and community leaders yesterday condemned the attacks, which this week reached a peak following increased tension in the area. One councillor suggested police had been slow to react at first.

Families were given refuge first in a local church hall and later bussed to a leisure centre in another part of the city.

One man, who gave his name as Deaglaz, showed a stitched wound on his abdomen which he said had been caused by broken glass after the windows were smashed in his house.

"Ten persons, they drink, they no good, they broke in the house," he said in broken English.

Another man, Couaccusil Filuis, said the intruders had even threatened to kill children: "They made signs like they wanted to cut my brother's baby's throat," he said. "They said they wanted to kill us."

A woman in the leisure centre, who gave her name as Maria, said: "We are OK, we are safe now. But we want to go home because right now we are not safe here. I want to go home because I have two kids and I want my kids to be safe." One of the children in the centre was just five weeks old.

The incidents are the latest in a series of eruptions of racist activity which over the last decade have been directed at Poles, Africans, Portuguese, Lithuanians, Latvians, Filipinos and many other nationalities.

The attacks took place in Wellesley Avenue and Belgravia Avenue, which are high-density, low-rent streets housing many students and others on short-term lets. Close by is the loyalist Sandy Row area, with the attackers likely to be young, disaffected Protestants, although the police and locals do not believe they are members of paramilitary groups or organised gangs.

Fewer than 1,000 Romanians live in Northern Ireland, but many of them tend to be highly visible as they sell newspapers at traffic junctions, offer The Big Issue and play musical instruments such as the accordion.

The number of racist incidents has risen, last year reaching almost 1,000, but this has not halted a steady flow of immigrants.

Their arrival has given Belfast and other parts of Northern Ireland a more cosmopolitan and international aspect, to the point that foreign accents are now routine rather than unusual.

The Romanians, in particular, have suffered from events following an international soccer match in March, when Northern Ireland played Poland at Windsor Park.

The game was followed by widespread disturbances involving Northern Ireland supporters and fans who had travelled from Poland. A number of people, including 11 police officers, were injured in the violence. In the days that followed the homes of both Poles and Romanians came under attack, starting the sequence which culminated in recent events.

Last Thursday the first of a series of incidents was reported. On Monday a rally held in support of the Romanians was abused and attacked by a small number of youths who threw bottles and made Nazi salutes. On Tuesday night, Romanian families gathered at one house, saying they no longer felt safe in their homes.

Malcolm Morgan, pastor at the church which housed them overnight, said he was happy to help. He added: "It's a sad indictment of our society, but hopefully we can show them a different side to Northern Ireland and a caring side of Northern Ireland." Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness, who visited the leisure centre, said it was a "totally shameful episode". He added: "We need a collective effort to face down these criminals in society who are quite clearly intent on preying on vulnerable women and children."

First Minister Peter Robinson described the events as deplorable, and health minister Michael McGimpsey said: "It appears to be a group of young thugs, young tearaways."

Police Superintendent Chris Noble said: "There is no authorisation by any other groups. It's a number of individuals who have taken some form of umbrage for whatever reason to people living in the community." Belfast Lord Mayor Naomi Long said: "These kinds of ugly scenes are totally unacceptable. Belfast is growing rich in diversity with people from different cultures and ethnic backgrounds making this city their home. We cannot allow a small minority of people to drive people from their homes."

The authorities have arranged for the Romanians to stay in student accommodation, not far from their former homes, as a temporary measure for a week.

While the authorities say they hope they can persuade the Romanians to stay in Northern Ireland, the general sense yesterday among those affected was that they wished to leave the country.

Northern Ireland in numbers

27,000 number of immigrants to Northern Ireland between 1991 and 2007

8,000 estimated number of immigrants to Northern Ireland since EU expansion in 2007

4,900 immigrants from Poland

1,365 immigrants from Czech Republic

1,000 immigrants from Lithuania

1,000 estimated number of immigrants from Romania

900 immigrants from Slovakia

230 immigrants from Latvia

1,759,000 population of Northern Ireland

2.1 million estimated immigration to England 1991-2007

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Wrong People!
[info]dutkowski wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:10 am (UTC)
These people are ROMANI---NOT Romanians!
Ethnicity
[info]radup wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:53 am (UTC)
These people are not romanians. They are Roma Gypsies with romanian citizenship. I am romanian and I don't look like them, I don't dress like them, I don't live like them and don't share their values nor do I understand their language. When these Roma Gypsies change their lifestyle to match the lifestyle of the vast majority of the ethnic romanians then I will not have a problem calling them "romanians", however, until that time comes they are Roma Gypsies.
Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS
[info]romanianuk wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 01:33 am (UTC)
Definately Roma Gypsies, not Romanian. You can tell because they look like indians, and gypsies came from India. Romanians are Latin people, the descendants of the Roman empire, and Romanian sounds just like Italian. PACE
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS
[info]andre_t wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 04:53 am (UTC)
sad to see a bunch of racist quotes from our new EU members, if they are Romanian citizens they are Romanians, no matter where they may have originated from 1000 years ago.

Dutkowski, Radup and Romanianuk, if you think the racists make a difference because you are "Latin" then good luck to you!
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]juliasammy - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 07:27 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]sidhe2002 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 07:34 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]nellybeeatch - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 09:56 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]sidhe2002 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 10:37 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]sidhe2002 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:24 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]nellybeeatch - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:40 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]sidhe2002 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:20 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]nellybeeatch - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:44 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]sidhe2002 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 01:00 pm (UTC) Expand
re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS
[info]joey_at_ph wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 03:32 am (UTC)
romanians or not romanians, gypsies or no gypsies still they are human beings and entitled to human rights. may people claim to be "GOD BELIEVERS" but don't even know what is human rights. racist people are uneducated people! how pitiful!
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS
[info]sidhe2002 wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 07:40 am (UTC)
Joey_at_ph - Do you have any knowledge of the Romany way of life? Are you aware of their teachings and beliefs with regards to the rest of society? If not then I would suggest that YOU are the one who is uneducated on this particular problem and it's roots. Still, don't let that stop you from making a judgement about it and proclaiming your superiority..............
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:13 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]sidhe2002 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:29 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]sidhe2002 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:40 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:49 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]sidhe2002 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 01:04 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 01:11 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Roma Gypsies NOT ROMANIANS - [info]alibee17 - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:08 pm (UTC) Expand
Get the facts
[info]over325one wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 05:37 am (UTC)
The reasons for all this trouble is are complex. Ordinary people do not take this kind of action without reason - good or bad. Face the facts these people are not angels and have a reputation all over Europe. We have to find out what made these people in Belfast so angry. It was not just racism.
Re: Get the facts
[info]oszkowice wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:38 am (UTC)
The Nazi salutes were clearlly an act of anger. Dont make me laugh.Always blaming the victims never the perpetrators. Reminds me of the Nazi's
Re: Get the facts - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:18 pm (UTC) Expand
Insular intolerant communities
[info]humble_sparrow wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 05:41 am (UTC)
So the conflict in Northern Island over the years wasn't just about "British Rule", the oppression of one community upon another, "the Catholics", "the Protestants", it was about "them", the stranger, the intruder, some underlying intolerant force that even sees young children as a soft target for racism from insular communities.
This is the tip of the iceberg
[info]itsthemechanic wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 06:35 am (UTC)
Of course, racist attacks are abhorrent, but does anyone expect people not to take offense by over a hundred Romanians suddenly moving into their neighborhood? A couple, sure, but 110 ? That's going to cause some problems and resentment.

From 2011 Romanians will be allowed to settle here in Germany as well, I expect a major shit-storm and similar incidents taking place.

For the record I am against racism, and all for a free movement of people, but it needs to be organized in such a way that it also protects the rights and sensibilities of local communities. If the government doesn't take this into consideration, the mob will take action.
Re: This is the tip of the iceberg
[info]humble_sparrow wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 07:07 am (UTC)
You can't organise the free movement of people because then it would not be free and we are back to square one, segregation.
Re: This is the tip of the iceberg - [info]brautkleid - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 08:54 am (UTC) Expand
Re: This is the tip of the iceberg - [info]mrevers - Tuesday, 22 September 2009 at 05:43 pm (UTC) Expand
British Terrorists
[info]brinksman wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 08:56 am (UTC)
These cowardly attacks are being organised by 'leaders' within British Loyalism. Make no mistake about that. If they aren't trying to murder defenceless men women and children from across Europe, they are murdering Catholics. Why hasn't the EU stepped in to defend their citizens? As John Snow pointed out, the RUC/PSNI haven't got a clue. Or perhaps, they are simply turning a blind and orange eye to it all, just like they did when Catholics and nationalists were being murdered (and are still being).
Re: British Terrorists
[info]sidhe2002 wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 09:42 am (UTC)
Have you got inside information or is this just another "I'll latch on to this issue to attract attention for MY personal opinions?" Whilst I don't have "orange eyes", I suspect your green tinted glasses need a clean! Now, back to the story at hand..............
Re: British Terrorists - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Political Correctness
[info]richard_holland wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 09:44 am (UTC)
"The Independent" shows that it is no such thing. Here is a community uttering a plea for help. The ruling elite have permitted a wave of immigration to occur - and what a wave. Ordinary folk know that a group of Romanian Gypsies - whatever name they are given - is bad news for a settled law abiding society. What would a reasonable response be? Pretty much what has just happened. The people responsible for that response are those that permitted the immigration to occur. If the Roma were settled next door to MPs and BBC news presentors we might hope for some unbiased responses and reporting - but they naturally get thrown in with ordinary folk, A shame that the media - The Independent included - are not capable of balanced reporting.
Racism?
[info]had_it wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 10:10 am (UTC)
As Roma or Romanian, these folks are white.
So who in Northern Ireland is an anti-white racist?
These reprehensible attacks were based on their ethnicity, not their race.
To call it racism is to emasculate the term.
Re: Racism?
[info]richardjeff wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:16 am (UTC)
Scientifically race does not exist. Skin colour tells nothing. though there are clusters of shared characteristics but they gradually merge with each other. What is at point here is lifestyle, belief systems, etc, in other words, shared cultures. We have many people born and bred in the UK looking superficially the same who have different lifestyles or cultures, hippies, high church attenders, academics, however you want to cut it. Are we saying that anyone we don't like gets thrown out?
Re: Racism? - [info]had_it - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:36 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Racism? - [info]almightymat - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:34 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Racism? - [info]had_it - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 02:23 pm (UTC) Expand
claimants
[info]justopp wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:15 am (UTC)
Professional benefits claimants from "spides" community from Sandy Row attacked professional benefits claimants and beggars from roman gypsies community....Roman gypsies in eastern europe live very often same style of life as those "track suite" guys from certain areas in belfast or other places. Uneducated people without any intention to work for themselves and for others, claiming benefits for generations, draining social system. Roman gypsies are only more "visible" as they are different by ethnic appearance.
Daily Mail, Daily Star and the Sun the real culprits
[info]oszkowice wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:32 am (UTC)
The Daily Star, Sun and Daily Mail should hang their heads in shame because the racist and sensational lies they publish have led to this.
Brititish Nazi Party behind this outrage!
[info]oszkowice wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:35 am (UTC)
So what if they are Roma, does that disenfranchise them? Less we forget, as well as the jews the Nazi's loved nothing better than killing "gypsies". No let me correct that. They loved nothing better than killing.
Belfast Crazies
[info]riccardoj wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 02:15 pm (UTC)
Whether these people are Roma, Romanian, pink, white, egg-shaped, is of no consequence.
They are simply human beings, and as such should never have to endure the bullying of a handful of idiotic Irish thugs.
No, it is not merely a spurious "religious" reason to terrorise, as with the idiotic loyalist/Catholic squabbles, but rather an excuse to enjoy hurting innocent people.
The Irish have always had a major chip on their collective shoulders, and hate outsiders.
RiccardoJ
Hampshire
Immigration
[info]changechange2 wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 03:20 pm (UTC)
It seems a disproportionate amount of immigrants (just over 44,000) to the total population of 1,759,000. This is definitely very bad planning from an immigration point of view. What is the reason?

In any event, IF they are gypsies -or WERE gypsies in Romania, maybe they are trying to get away from the stigma given to them in their own country. Judging from some of the comments from Romanians, I would suspect that Romanians and not the Irish are responsible for the crimes against these people and these Romanians living in Ireland should be brought to justice and they are the ones who should be evicted from Ireland. As long as people are prepared to work, they should be given a chance and the colour of their skin should not be a precondition for residence anywhere.
So often the debating of this is polarized and fruitless ...
[info]john_b_ellis wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 04:50 pm (UTC)
... so I suggest:

1. Race is surely merely secondary: the real root is simply "fear of the other lot", who may, as with Muslims and Christians in the former Yugoslavia, be racially indistinguishable from their adversaries.

"Fear of the other" runs deep, for good pre-historical reasons. Outside the Welsh town where I was in university, on several hilltops there were the remains of Bronze Age villages. The inhabitants built their villages on hilltops because they could see the tribe next door when it came raiding, and they surrounded them with a double rampart with fencing on top and spiked posts between the double wall to stop the invaders getting in! As a child in Cheshire, I learned the ancient rhyme: "Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a thief; Taffy came to my house, and stole a herd of beef" - memories of cattle raids long ago. I believe that in border towns there was an ancient law which entitled a citizen to kill, without penalty, any Welshman found within the walls at night.

"Fear of the other" doesn't arise from sheer mindless prejudice, but has concrete and reasonable historical roots, for every race. It's irrational in our current situation, but communities don't easily move away from primordial instincts which once were useful tools for survival and safety. I suspect that in the situation in north-east Ireland, where community division, fear and suspicion has carried down to the present time, this may be the more true, and that the instinct to stick with your own and drive out the other will run peculiarly deep.

2. "Anti-racism" has become a creed for intellectual elites (shorthand term, no connotation of approval or disapproval!) who recogize the irrationality, in current circumstances, of "fear of the other". And it IS irrational. In the ancient sense, large numbers of "others" of whatever sort pose no threat to the rest of us. They aren't going to invade our towns (at least in the ancient sense!), steal our sheep and cattle, rape our women, steal our relatives as slaves and burn our crops. And, indeed, the underlying message behind anti-racism certainly isn't preculiar to elites; "fear of the other", and violence towards him, goes against the fundamental tenets of most of our religions, which teach the oneness of humanity and the importance of kindness to the stranger. But, just as Roma faces often indicate their Indian origins, so "fear of the other" lurks in our human psyche, grounded in centuries of community esperience, and, given an opening, boils over in to conflict and violence.

3. Let's not mislead with language.

a) Whence this idea that Romanians are Latin people? Certainly their language is a Romance tongue, but that's largely by chance - they're no less a mixture of all the settlers and invaders of three millennia as their neighbours. The idea of racial purity is utter myth - far too many population movements and settlements for it to have meaning.

b) There's no link whatever between "slave" and "tsigani", as suggested above. The English word "slave" comes from old Latin "Sclavi", the Slavs, and arose because the Romans enslaved so many of them in border wars that the tribal name replaced the earlier word, and came into English. "Tsigani" is an Bulgarian form of the Greek name the Byzantines called the Roma, which referred to their apparent interest in magic and fortune-telling.
roma gypsies
[info]simona09 wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 04:59 pm (UTC)
You really do gooders from (not so) independent minds do not understand a second the problems that plague REAL Romanians because of these nomadic people called Roma. We suffer at home because of them (they don't want to integrate, go to school - implicitly steal, rob, rape, kill) and we suffer abroad because everyone confuses us with them and think we have the same customs and lifestyle as them.
Out of all minorities and ethnical groups, the gypsies are the most resistant group to social integration. It's a paradox to say that we should respect their culture because it is their very culture that impedes them to integrate: marriages between minors is perfectly acceptable for them (even though Romanian law forbids it), going to school is out of the question (most of them are illiterate), nomadism still a preferable lifestyle. So if they can't read and write no one will hire them => they have to steal to get money.
Oh and by the way, most of the Roma are dark skinned and dark haired and do have a different ethnicity than the average Romanian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So What?
[info]chiennoir wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 05:27 pm (UTC)
Radup "These people are not romanians. They are Roma Gypsies with romanian citizenship." As they say in Scotland, "We're all Jock Tamson's bairns."
We are all Humans
[info]palestinelibre wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 05:30 pm (UTC)
It does not matter if the people are Roma or Romanian or this or that. We are ALL humans and deserve a chance to live in peace searching for a better future. In the past certain societies have tried to justify their racist or genocidal tendencies by claiming to be the "master race" or "the chosen people" but to no avail. History has not smiled upon these segments of humanity and they continuously meet with disastrous consequences. Case and point, the Zionists, Nazis, Hutus, Khmer Rouge, and Americans are not viewed with kind eyes by people who know of their crimes. Beware all Ye racists and uncle toms, sell your souls at your own peril.
Re: We are all Humans
[info]earl_of_chatham wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 06:35 pm (UTC)
"We are ALL humans and deserve a chance to live in peace searching for a better future."

Not in somebody else's country, without the consent of the people, and at their expense they don't
Re: We are all Humans - [info]palestinelibre - Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 07:40 pm (UTC) Expand
Crazy Romanians
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 06:30 pm (UTC)
If you were going to move to another country perhaps you would cross Somalia and Iraq off the list straight away. Afghanistan, Israel (unless your Jewish), China... How about Northern Ireland. Brilliant decision, a place where half the people want to kill the other half out of some weird insular racism. Those Romanians were asking for it, the guys who attacked them probably thought they were Finians or something like that.
Both Romanians and Roma were attacked.
[info]nazcalito wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 07:31 pm (UTC)
Actually, there are some other reports identifying the people attacked as Romanian Gypsies and mentioning that there are both Romanians and Romanian Gypsies living in Belfast. The Economist, however, describes the people attacked as "100 Romanians, mostly Roma (gypsies)", implying that some of those attacked were non-gypsy Romanians. This suggests not only that the racists in Belfast don't make any distinctions between Romanians and Roma, but that the two ethnic groups were members of the same community in Belfast.
Loyalist low-lifes
[info]jkcartoons wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 07:36 pm (UTC)
As if sectarianism isn't enough for these loyalist low-lifes. http://kennedycartoons.com
Roma Gypsies
[info]alibee17 wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 11:04 pm (UTC)
My mother in law got mugged by a Roma gypsy. She is in her 70s and had recently had an operation. When the man grabbed her necklace and beat her to the ground he could have caused any number of serious injuries to her. He ripped her dress and left her lying there as she screamed for help. He walked away but when he saw no one was coming to help he returned for her bag. Perhaps no on cares for the Roma gypsies because they care for no one. I for one am glad they got a taste of their own medeicine. I'd love to see how the bleeding hearts react to scum breaking into their gardens, raking through their rubbish, stealing all they can get and knowing they can getaway with it because the police 'don't have an interpreter'. They certainly don't come here to work for a living.
Re: Roma Gypsies
[info]palestinelibre wrote:
Friday, 19 June 2009 at 12:23 am (UTC)
There are criminals in every group. Look at Madoff, he was the head of the Nasdaq in NYC and he turned out to be the biggest robber of all time. If a person commits a crime then he should be given a fair trial and given proper justice. This does not give us the right to slander an entire people. And it certainly does not give us the right to act like Nazis or simple, brainless animals. I think that even some of the other animal species sometimes display more common sense than us humans.
Good, save Ireland
[info]imedbone wrote:
Saturday, 20 June 2009 at 09:39 pm (UTC)
Appears that the Irish have taken notice from the rest of the worlds immigration history (most notably the ever growing social problems in the US now). They know what WILL eventually happen when you allow ungrateful foreigners (who don't want to be Irish (American, etc), but only want to live there) to get a foothold in your homeland, town, etc.
Immigration and "diversity" are scams promoted by governments to try and achieve "continuous economic/population growth" regardless of their effects on their countrymen's quality of life. All western nations (at minimum) are firmly established and do not require immigrants to "build their nation", because it is the humane thing to do, or for any other excuse.
The trend of "Diversity" (people who refuse to assimilate) leads to the complete destruction of any form of national unity (especially common language), and in turn the slow demise of the country. This is how country's are destroyed from within.
Re: Good, save Ireland
[info]palestinelibre wrote:
Sunday, 21 June 2009 at 01:18 am (UTC)
Yes, the USA is an established country built on the blood of black slaves and indigenous tribes. I would rather be my own person than be part of a genocidal culture that has murdered millions of people from South America to Indo China. I would rather be called an outsider than to just be part of the mob mentality that beliefs in the "Master Race" method. Understanding one's history should be a wake up call for people to show a bit of compassion for their fellow human being. I am sure that the Irish tribes that were conquered by the British and Romans would have agreed. Whether the racist is a Jew or a Christian, he is still a racist. And there is nothing wrong with being multilingual, look for example at Canada, Switzerland the countries are still improving, there is not a "mass extinction" going on there. Learning new cultures and languages simply makes you more able to communicate with more people as opposed to living among one ethnic group and eventually developing a serious case of xenophobia, yes that does exist in the USA.
The Name Game
[info]mrevers wrote:
Tuesday, 22 September 2009 at 06:08 pm (UTC)
Romanian, Roma... Roma, Roma, bo-boma,
Banana-fana fo-foma, Fee-fi-mo-oma...

Gypsy's are people! As citizens of the EU they have rights like the rest of us.

It is the expansion of the EU that requires more consideration. The gentleman is right, we should expect violence when immigration is not "managed." People are free to move where they like, but government needs to be conscious, intelligent, and prepared to enforce law where crime will inevitably fester as the result of national progress.





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