Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer dismissed as 'ridiculous' in explosive interview by black writer Gary Younge

'I was looking for someone who could give some intellectual ballast to what's going on in this country in terms of race and in terms of white people but I found the wrong guy because you don't know what you're talking about'

Lucy Pasha-Robinson@lucypasha
Wednesday 08 November 2017 17:25
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Gary Younge interviews Richard Spencer: 'Africans have benefited from white supremacy'

White supremacist Richard Spencer has been taken to task over his “ridiculous” views after he told a black journalist he would “never be an Englishman” because of his skin colour.

Gary Younge skewered Spencer after he attempted to justify his belief that “Africans have benefited from white supremacy.”

Interrupting him, Younge said: “Really? I’m just going to leave that out there. You know that is not even worth challenging.”

Later, he urged Spencer to elaborate, asking: “So slavery was good for them?”

Spencer replied: “Look, they benefitted from being in a different nation than their own. No doubt. How can you deny that,” before adding: “I am ultimately proud of it. I’m proud of slavery.”

But the Guardian editor-at-large deftly exposed the ”ridiculous” ideology behind the ”alt-right“ figurehead’s bizarre claim, saying: “It’s such a ridiculous notion that people forcibly removed from their homes and taken to this country to work for nothing for a couple of centuries ― and that benefited them?”

Later, Younge laughed incredulously and called Spencer a “ridiculous person” as he tried to tell the British-born journalist England was not his “real home”.

​”Your ancestors didn’t build it,” Spencer argued.

But Younge fired back: “Sorry! Listen, my ancestors built it tenfold ― and weren’t paid for it!”

Spencer tried to continue, saying it was ”like saying African-Americans built the United States”.

Younge replied: “They did. They literally built the White House.”

The explosive exchange features in a new Channel 4 documentary, “Angry, White And American”, in which Younge tries to get to grips with the racial context of modern day America.

He explained he had been conflicted about giving Spencer “oxygen” but ultimately was compelled to hear his “intellectual” argument for the “Trump revolution”.

But Younge quickly concluded he had overestimated Spencer.

“I was looking for someone who could give some intellectual ballast to what’s going on in this country in terms of race and in terms of white people but I found the wrong guy because you don’t know what you’re talking about,” he told him before ending the interview.

The documentary airs on Channel 4 on 9 November at 10pm.

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